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Frank Longo
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"Recommend me some books about film."
Sun Jul-01-07 10:58 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

Recently, I've been racing through books on film-- film history, biographies of actors/filmmakers/producers, film criticism.

Hip me to some good books you've read about film that I can put on the ole birthday list.

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Adventures in Screen Trade by William Goldman is a must
Jul 01st 2007
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co-sign
Jul 02nd 2007
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RE: Recommend me some books about film.
Jul 01st 2007
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Shame on you, King Friday.
Jul 02nd 2007
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RE: Shame on you, King Friday.
Jul 02nd 2007
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Conversations with Wilder - Cameron Crowe
Jul 02nd 2007
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RE: Recommend me some books about film.
Jul 02nd 2007
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A post about film books w/o the mention of David Bordwell
Jul 02nd 2007
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what he said
Jul 02nd 2007
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Besides the aforementioned Hitchcock/Truffault......
Jul 02nd 2007
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Story by Robert McKee. Mamet's Babmi vs Godzilla
Jul 02nd 2007
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Rebels of the Backlot is pretty good
Jul 02nd 2007
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Final Cut by Steven Bach
Jul 02nd 2007
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Three recommendations
Jul 02nd 2007
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okay it FINALLY came to me, damn
Jul 02nd 2007
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focalpress.com
Jul 02nd 2007
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anything by Pauline Kael
Jul 02nd 2007
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co-sign
Jul 02nd 2007
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Down and Dirty Pictures - Peter Biskind
Jul 02nd 2007
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Toms, Coons, Mulattoes, Mammies, & Bucks - Donald Bogle
Jul 02nd 2007
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SoulHonky
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1. "Adventures in Screen Trade by William Goldman is a must"
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I really liked Sidney Lumet's book, Making Movies.

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Wordman
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13. "co-sign"
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the second one he put out was dope too.

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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King_Friday
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Sun Jul-01-07 11:59 PM

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2. "RE: Recommend me some books about film."
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First of all, I hope you own Andrew Sarris' "The American Cinema: Directors And Directions, 1929-1968".

If you don't, you need it. Real bad.

I also would recommend Sarris' "Confessions Of A Cultist: On The Cinema, 1955/1969"

And I highly recommend Robin Wood's book-length study of the films of Howard Hawks called "Howard Hawks".

And also Wood's "Hollywood From Vietnam To Reagan. . . And Beyond."

These are all very interesting.

  

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rhymesandammo
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3. "Shame on you, King Friday."
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I figured a film scholar of your calibur would mention Andre Bazin's "What Is Cinema" amongst the top books on film. My film professor put me onto that in my senior year of high school and it really opened my eyes more than I could imagine.

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BlueNote
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5. "RE: Shame on you, King Friday."
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What is Cinema is a great read. I read that book years ago and it really helped my shape my views on cinema. These days I really don't agree with a lot of Bazin's conclusions but his passion for the subject still makes me go back and read it.

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4. "Conversations with Wilder - Cameron Crowe"
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BlueNote
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6. "RE: Recommend me some books about film."
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Mon Jul-02-07 01:34 AM by BlueNote

  

          

These are some books that I've always enjoyed and keep going back to.

Interview Series, specifically Jean-Luc Godard and Robert Altman

The Godard book has a lot of great interviews with Godard and others and even though there is a lot of craziness spoken, the fact is that I've never heard film talked about ever than I have in this book, even if you don't agree it really gets you thinking about the medium.

The Altman one has a lot of good stories. Altman was never afraid to speak his mind quite bluntly and there's a lot of good insight into his films

http://www.amazon.com/Jean-Luc-Godard-Interviews-Filmmakers/dp/1578060818/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/103-1852108-1943841?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183356885&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Robert-Altman-Interviews-Conversations-Filmmakers/dp/1578061873/ref=sr_1_10/103-1852108-1943841?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183357176&sr=1-10



Truffaut/Hitchcock

This is just a must have, a conversation between the two about all of Hitchcocks films, just a great read.


http://www.amazon.com/Hitchcock-Revised-Helen-G-Scott/dp/0671604295/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-1852108-1943841?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183357482&sr=1-2


Truffaut

This is kind of a lengthy biography about Truffaut's life which is a bit of topic, but the book really made me understand the time period of the Cahiers du Cinema and the French New Wave, it's a fun read, i got through pretty quick.

http://www.amazon.com/Truffaut-Biography-Antoine-Baecque/dp/0520225244/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-1852108-1943841?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183357388&sr=1-2


Hollywood vs. Hardcore

This is a book that tracks the history of censorship and how it molded the industry. It's a very interesting book that has a lot of good stories and studies films from a social historical perspective. The stuff on the Blacklist I think is great.


http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-v-Hard-Core-Censorship/dp/0814751431/ref=pd_bbs_3/103-1852108-1943841?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183357546&sr=1-3


Whom God Wishes to Destroy

Written by the same guy as the last one. It tracks Francis Coppola from Apocalypse now through the 80's. The book is more again about the financial side of hollywood and how it dictated the creativity and product in hollywood as the auteur renaissance came to a close and the modern structure we have today was being made. Again it's a bit off topic but I found it a great read and an interesting story about the time of Coppola's life that's never talked about even though he was very active.

http://www.amazon.com/Whom-God-Wishes-Destroy-Hollywood/dp/082231889X/ref=sr_1_1/103-1852108-1943841?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183357814&sr=1-1


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7. "A post about film books w/o the mention of David Bordwell"
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Mon Jul-02-07 08:32 AM by Sponge

          

is insanity (if people read his stuff other than Film Art and not mentioned him) and a crime (if people haven't heard of him or his work).

He is in the highest stratosphere (where folks like Bazin are) of thinkers on cinema.

All of his books and writings are essential and always illuminating.

For my money, the blog that he and his wife, Kristin Thompson, write is the best one on film.

I'll rec 2 of his books here; I'll gladly capsulize his other books for anyone interested:

-Film History: An Introduction (Thompson and Bordwell) - textbook
-The Way Hollywood Tells It (Bordwell) - 2 essays

His wife is no joke, either - a fine historian/scholar in her own right. Her upcoming Frodo Franchise book hopefully will get her and Bordwell more readership. Like Bordwell, all her stuff is prime material. Essential.


A DVD, but just as essential as a great film book:
-Visions Of Light: The Art of Cinematography


Other stuff:

(Thompson and Bordwell) - Film Art: An Introduction - Seems to be hated on. I mean, it's a introductory-level textbook and it's an excellent one at that.
(Bazin) - anything
(Ebert)
(Sarris) - Interviews With Film Directors; American Cinema is classic, but more a personalized reference list-guide rather than a study of American movies.
(Rosenbaum) - anything, but Essential Cinema would float lots of people's boats here...good starting points for what to watch
(Bogdanovich) - This Is Orson Welles; Who The Devil Made It; Who The Hell's In It
(Woods) - Rio Bravo


Classics/staples; older stuff:

(Ondaatje) - Conversations: Walter Murch and the Art of Editing Film
(Murch) - In The Blink Of An Eye
(Mankiewicz) - Cinematography
(Bazin) - already mentioned
(Agee) - Agee On Film
(Burch) - Theory Of Film Practice
(Durgnat) - Films And Feelings
(Perkins) - Film As Film
(Farber) - Negative Space - kind of irritating, but a classic
(Woods) - Howard Hawks - already mentioned; Hitchcock's Films; not a fan of his later film theory-tinged works.
(Truffaut) - Hitchcock - already mentioned

"Newer" stuff:

(Tirard) - Moviemakers' Master Class: Private Lessons From The World's Foremost Directors
(Jarecki) - Breaking In: How 20 Film Directors Got Their Start
(Lowenstein) - My First Movie: Twenty Celebrated Directors Talk About Their First film

Faber and Faber's _ On _ (i.e., Herzog On Herzog) series is great stuff.










  

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14. "what he said"
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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8. "Besides the aforementioned Hitchcock/Truffault......"
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.... I recommend Woody Allen on Woody Allen.

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9. "Story by Robert McKee. Mamet's Babmi vs Godzilla"
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10. "Rebels of the Backlot is pretty good"
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11. "Final Cut by Steven Bach"
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Though it's billed as a book about Heaven's Gate, just as much of the book is devoted to the movie industry during its inception through the era where the filmmakers were the ones calling the shots in the 70s and how Heaven's Gate was basically the jenga piece that made it all topple. A lot of behind the scenes insight about the work of studios and producers in addition to tales from one of the most fucked up sets of all time.

  

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I learned a lot about how to watch documentaries from this book on how to make them: http://www.amazon.com/Making-Documentary-Films-Reality-Videos/dp/0805044515/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/103-4857603-3319062?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183396986&sr=8-3

This is a terrific book with twenty different (very different!) directors talking about their first movies, with the exception of Oliver Stone who wanted to pretend that his third movie was his first movie, lol http://www.amazon.com/My-First-Movie-Celebrated-Directors/dp/0142002208/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4857603-3319062?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183397043&sr=1-1

damnation, I'll have to get back to you on the third one. I can't quite remember the name of the book or the writer. It'll come to me.


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20. "okay it FINALLY came to me, damn"
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This one is funny and strangely raises some interesting questions.

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Cineplex-Heckler-Celluloid-Escapades/dp/0786884649/ref=sr_1_4/103-4857603-3319062?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183419791&sr=1-4

It will definitely have an impact on your moviegoing experience.

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15. "focalpress.com"
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Back like...

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16. "anything by Pauline Kael"
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She'll infuriate you sometimes, but she's such a good writer you'll keep coming back for more.

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I remembered about this after I already posted. I think there was a retrospective of her writing recently published if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.timothypaulmoore.com
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17. "Down and Dirty Pictures - Peter Biskind"
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junk food reading, but it's still good
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18. "Toms, Coons, Mulattoes, Mammies, & Bucks - Donald Bogle"
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