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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?"


  

          

I think I might have forgotten about him entirely if it weren't for those BET commercials.

I really thought this dude was the most talented thing going for a long while but dude hasn't dropped anything in what feels lie eons.

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RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?
Feb 14th 2013
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RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?
Feb 14th 2013
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them commercials are jamming, though lol !!!
Feb 14th 2013
3
he just did an album two years ago, hasn't been that long
Feb 14th 2013
4
the only album i'm not familiar with is ray ray
Feb 14th 2013
5
I really didn't dig 'Ray Ray'...
Feb 14th 2013
7
He had two bangers with Teedra Moses on that.
Feb 15th 2013
10
"Take Me" one of the most underrated R&B songs ever
Mar 09th 2024
36
It slaps.
Feb 15th 2013
12
it seems the reaction to this album is very mixed
Feb 15th 2013
13
I only like his first 2 solo albums
Feb 15th 2013
15
Yes !!!
Feb 17th 2013
19
RE: the only album i'm not familiar with is ray ray
Mar 09th 2024
39
he needs a pause, everyone jumped on that RetroSound
Feb 14th 2013
6
Was not a fan of his recent retro sound
Feb 14th 2013
8
      Have you heard Stone Rollin?
Feb 17th 2013
17
washing cars
Feb 15th 2013
9
obviously many people care about Saadiq's solo career
Feb 17th 2013
18
RE: washing cars
Mar 29th 2024
44
Producing Trombone Shorty's next album
Feb 15th 2013
11
interesting
Feb 15th 2013
14
!!!
Feb 15th 2013
16
he hasnt made anything in a minute
Feb 17th 2013
20
i agree, it hasn't been that long since Stone Rollin'....
Feb 19th 2013
21
yeah he's done some great songs for other people
Feb 19th 2013
22
Hot Take: Anderson Paak is having the type of career I thought
Mar 05th 2024
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His window to be regarded like D'Angelo passed after X amount....
Mar 05th 2024
24
Saddiq also co-produced both new Beyonce tracks, but yeah...
Mar 05th 2024
25
He also produced “No Wish” for Black Milk, recently
Mar 06th 2024
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RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?
Mar 06th 2024
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I guess Y'all don't mess with Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur?
Mar 06th 2024
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I love that this original thread was in 2013
Mar 07th 2024
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super
Mar 07th 2024
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If the album "Jimmy Lee" Saadiq showing his ability to set it off...
Mar 07th 2024
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      i didn't mention jimmy lee, but...
Mar 07th 2024
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           *spectating in yellow bonnet*
Mar 08th 2024
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                He said Saadiq's albums don't compare to D'Angelo's album
Mar 08th 2024
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                     buddy said he thought saadiq was talented
Mar 09th 2024
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I love his voice & song arrangements but damn he has a weak pen
Mar 08th 2024
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RE: you on your own with this shit here
Mar 31st 2024
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RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?
Mar 09th 2024
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what happened to the 3XT album and tour?
Mar 15th 2024
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On IG the tour was a thing. Lot's of fans raving at the shows.
Mar 15th 2024
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He has a signature model guitar dropping
Mar 26th 2024
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Producing Beyonce
Mar 29th 2024
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1. "RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?"
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...I stay checking for this brother...He is the kind of dude that comes out of nowhere with releases, so you really never know...looking forward to whatever he comes with, such a talent...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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2. "RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?"
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doing car commericals

  

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3. "them commercials are jamming, though lol !!!"
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>doing car commericals


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4. "he just did an album two years ago, hasn't been that long"
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but we're used to an album a year now so it seems like forever

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5. "the only album i'm not familiar with is ray ray"
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i hear good things though. i think he'll drop something soon enough.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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7. "I really didn't dig 'Ray Ray'..."
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A few really good songs, including 'Grown Folks' which is brilliant, but it's my least favourite of his albums.

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10. "He had two bangers with Teedra Moses on that."
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All together, the two of them made 3 excellent songs.

  

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36. ""Take Me" one of the most underrated R&B songs ever"
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>All together, the two of them made 3 excellent songs.

I wish he had a little help with the pen but the vibe is immaculate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puRec6lqj8s

  

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12. "It slaps."
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Ray-Ray is my rave of his solos.

Saadiq at the height of his creativity and giving us HIS sound.

  

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13. "it seems the reaction to this album is very mixed"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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15. "I only like his first 2 solo albums"
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Ray Ray has some great songs. The 2 with Teedra, Rifle Love, Not a Game (with Babyface)

  

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19. "Yes !!!"
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>Ray-Ray is my rave of his solos.
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>Saadiq at the height of his creativity and giving us HIS
>sound.


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39. "RE: the only album i'm not familiar with is ray ray"
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That's the one that slaps the most tbh.

That was the pinnacle of his trademark sound.

  

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6. "he needs a pause, everyone jumped on that RetroSound"
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I hope he's cooking up something different

I'll wait!

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8. "Was not a fan of his recent retro sound"
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He did it well with Sons of Soul but his most recent run seemed like he was just chasing trends and not breaking new grounds.

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17. "Have you heard Stone Rollin?"
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It really is fantastic, and songs in the second half are more Saadiq-esque than the first half would imply.

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9. "washing cars"
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this turkey needs to be "Lou Rawl's" for leaving tony,toni,tone

nobody cares about his corny solo career and doing his lounge thing. cat got much talent, however not solo worthy.

somebody needs to lou rawls him back to the tony's

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18. "obviously many people care about Saadiq's solo career"
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We know you don't. Move on

  

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44. "RE: washing cars"
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R kelly bro? Really?

  

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11. "Producing Trombone Shorty's next album"
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nm

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14. "interesting"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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16. "!!!"
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20. "he hasnt made anything in a minute"
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i got on red lipstick

  

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21. "i agree, it hasn't been that long since Stone Rollin'...."
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...but i know the man is grinding.
i will say over and over again that because of his work ethic (and sic basslines) he's probably my biggest modern-day (like at least the last 20 years) inspiration in music right about now, i gotta say.
People really don't know just how many songs & albums for people he's produced.

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22. "yeah he's done some great songs for other people"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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23. "Hot Take: Anderson Paak is having the type of career I thought"
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Raphael Saadiq would have.

Not to diminish Saadiq's career. He has had, and is having (I guess), a good to great career, but I thought Saadiq would be constantly visibly doing projects and have his name talked about constantly as a legend for his time.


I get it, Saadiq is doing all sorts of cool stuff behind the scenes, but I thought he would be talked about in the same way we talk about D'Angelo.


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24. "His window to be regarded like D'Angelo passed after X amount...."
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...of albums.


Great artist...but one too many albums that the public barely likes means the public won't view Saadiq like D'Angelo (because the public likes ALL of D'Angelo's albums).

  

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25. "Saddiq also co-produced both new Beyonce tracks, but yeah..."
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it sucks sometimes when the genius-level folks will disappear for years at a time

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28. "He also produced “No Wish” for Black Milk, recently "
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Great track.

  

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26. "RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?"
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Probably disheartened by how he dropped 3 solo classics and Usher gets to do super bowl off a few 20+ year old hits..

  

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27. "I guess Y'all don't mess with Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur?"
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The season one album was pretty dope albeit very kid friendly. Wasn't feeling season two as much though.

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29. "I love that this original thread was in 2013"
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and then Seat at the Table came out 3 years later to silence this foolishness...

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30. "super"
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he was killing when this post was made and been killin since lol.

caught him live a few months ago and it was one of the better shows ive ever been to. nigga sounded just like the album and also ran through all the shit he wrote for others i had no clue about.

  

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31. "If the album "Jimmy Lee" Saadiq showing his ability to set it off..."
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Why wouldn't have Buddy or anyone else who replied in this post in these past days brought it up as "something"


Why hasn't anyone brought up the quality or staying power of "Jimmy Lee"?


"Black messiah" was released before it and there's no doubt THAT album speaks for D'Angelo.


"A seat at the table" rather than "Jimmy Lee" is what has staying power?


Edit: there are several posts about "Black messiah"


There was one post about "Jimmy Lee" and...it didn't generate much of a response at all.


https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3016951&mesg_id=3016951&listing_type=search

  

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32. "i didn't mention jimmy lee, but..."
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There was also this: https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3018104&mesg_id=3018104&listing_type=search

And this best of 2019 post, where 10 posters include it among their favs of the year:

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3015115&mesg_id=3015115&listing_type=search

Considering that that's 2019, when the amount of traffic to the Lesson had slowed DRAMATICALLY... that's pretty good. (When was the big outage that caused the first major exodus?)

But more to the point, their careers are incredibly different, and that trajectory was marked from an early date, imo. I don't know why anyone would have thought, past TTT, that Saadiq would be a superstar superstar. His solo lps varied in quality, in particular, almost always very good but i'm not sure he dropped a solo classic full-length.

But as an overall writer and musician and performer, he's top tier status, and I think his work as a collaborator is what really sets him apart. His legacy is much bigger than the output under his solo name or his specific bands.

A Seat at the Table was an event. He practically heralded the thing and wrote the song that the album in everyone's heads (Cranes). And that's not the only collab of that level?

It's foolishness at this point to question his career. What hasn't he done? Certified hits, both singles and records, as both writer for others and performer. Stellar live show.

He doesn't have a Black Messiah, but he doesn't need one.

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33. "*spectating in yellow bonnet*"
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get emmm

  

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34. "He said Saadiq's albums don't compare to D'Angelo's album"
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Which is what Buddy said he hoped for Saadiq (to be up there with D'Angelo as far as how we talk about D'Angelo) and what I said won't happen because of Saadiq's albums' quality.


If he said Saadiq doesn't have a classic album and everybody thinks ALL of D'Angelo's albums are classic, how was he not saying what I was saying?


I wasn't saying Saadiq wasn't a great artist, just Saadiq has a track record of albums that don't compare to D'Angelo's, Maxwell's, Badu's - that's several Saadiq couldn't rise up to their level for some reason (as far as albums)


Don't know why Saadiq couldn't, but Saadiq probably didn't get the help he needed and thought that he didn't need for his albums. On him for not assessing what he needed to make a classic album.

  

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37. "buddy said he thought saadiq was talented"
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with the implication being he aint as talented as he thought cuz he hadnt heard from him in a minute.

you started talkin about albums, fine (irony not lost on you here 10 yrs later hopefully). saadiq prolly don’t have a classic album but hes certainly on the same level as d because of all the other shit he’s done over the course of 40 years. hard to discount that type of relevance.

  

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35. "I love his voice & song arrangements but damn he has a weak pen"
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"Ask of You" is otherworldly I thought he would have been a bigger solo star. "Instant Vintage" could have been a hands down classic if had someone to help him tweak and rewrite some things.

  

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45. "RE: you on your own with this shit here"
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>damn he has a weak pen

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38. "RE: Where the heck is Raphael Saadiq?"
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He put out Jane Handcock's first project several years before she got on Death Row.2

He dropped Jimmy Lee about 4 years ago. It was okay. He finally took some musical risks and made more modern sounding music after the last 2 retro soul albums. It was about his addict brother. It had some cool songs and some forgettable ones.

Last I saw.. he's doing television scores and soundtracks, namely producing the soundtrack to Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur on Disney+.

  

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40. "what happened to the 3XT album and tour?"
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Did the tour actually happen? It was being promoted pretty heavily for a while.

They were supposed to drop a new album or live album or something I recall too?

  

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41. "On IG the tour was a thing. Lot's of fans raving at the shows."
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If y'all don't have IG, y'all missing out

IG is like a newspaper or something

  

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42. "He has a signature model guitar dropping"
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https://youtu.be/XygXGO9bzBY?si=rEdY3vlZLrpAHHXU

If I played any better, I'd go for this one or the clear one from H.E.R.

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43. "Producing Beyonce"
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Dude has been doing tons of stuff, he produced Beyonce's new
country stuff and also the Tony Toni Tone reunion thing . . .

  

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