I think I might have forgotten about him entirely if it weren't for those BET commercials.

I really thought this dude was the most talented thing going for a long while but dude hasn't dropped anything in what feels lie eons.

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"naive as the dry leaves on the ground looking past the trees to the blue sky asking 'why me?'" -Blu

Why I still fuzz with the Lesson
http://open.spotify.com/user/brothersport86/playlist/3DhEhilho77Z0UCPbJlEJf

...I stay checking for this brother...He is the kind of dude that comes out of nowhere with releases, so you really never know...looking forward to whatever he comes with, such a talent...

doing car commericals

>doing car commericals


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

but we're used to an album a year now so it seems like forever

i hear good things though. i think he'll drop something soon enough.

A few really good songs, including 'Grown Folks' which is brilliant, but it's my least favourite of his albums.

All together, the two of them made 3 excellent songs.

>All together, the two of them made 3 excellent songs.

I wish he had a little help with the pen but the vibe is immaculate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puRec6lqj8s

Ray-Ray is my rave of his solos.

Saadiq at the height of his creativity and giving us HIS sound.

Ray Ray has some great songs. The 2 with Teedra, Rifle Love, Not a Game (with Babyface)

>Ray-Ray is my rave of his solos.
>
>Saadiq at the height of his creativity and giving us HIS
>sound.


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

That's the one that slaps the most tbh.

That was the pinnacle of his trademark sound.

I hope he's cooking up something different

I'll wait!

He did it well with Sons of Soul but his most recent run seemed like he was just chasing trends and not breaking new grounds.

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"naive as the dry leaves on the ground looking past the trees to the blue sky asking 'why me?'" -Blu

Why I still fuzz with the Lesson
http://open.spotify.com/user/brothersport86/playlist/3DhEhilho77Z0UCPbJlEJf

It really is fantastic, and songs in the second half are more Saadiq-esque than the first half would imply.

this turkey needs to be "Lou Rawl's" for leaving tony,toni,tone

nobody cares about his corny solo career and doing his lounge thing. cat got much talent, however not solo worthy.

somebody needs to lou rawls him back to the tony's

We know you don't. Move on

R kelly bro? Really?

nm

i got on red lipstick

...but i know the man is grinding.
i will say over and over again that because of his work ethic (and sic basslines) he's probably my biggest modern-day (like at least the last 20 years) inspiration in music right about now, i gotta say.
People really don't know just how many songs & albums for people he's produced.

Raphael Saadiq would have.

Not to diminish Saadiq's career. He has had, and is having (I guess), a good to great career, but I thought Saadiq would be constantly visibly doing projects and have his name talked about constantly as a legend for his time.


I get it, Saadiq is doing all sorts of cool stuff behind the scenes, but I thought he would be talked about in the same way we talk about D'Angelo.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

...of albums.


Great artist...but one too many albums that the public barely likes means the public won't view Saadiq like D'Angelo (because the public likes ALL of D'Angelo's albums).

it sucks sometimes when the genius-level folks will disappear for years at a time

Great track.

Probably disheartened by how he dropped 3 solo classics and Usher gets to do super bowl off a few 20+ year old hits..

The season one album was pretty dope albeit very kid friendly. Wasn't feeling season two as much though.

and then Seat at the Table came out 3 years later to silence this foolishness...

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

he was killing when this post was made and been killin since lol.

caught him live a few months ago and it was one of the better shows ive ever been to. nigga sounded just like the album and also ran through all the shit he wrote for others i had no clue about.

Why wouldn't have Buddy or anyone else who replied in this post in these past days brought it up as "something"


Why hasn't anyone brought up the quality or staying power of "Jimmy Lee"?


"Black messiah" was released before it and there's no doubt THAT album speaks for D'Angelo.


"A seat at the table" rather than "Jimmy Lee" is what has staying power?


Edit: there are several posts about "Black messiah"


There was one post about "Jimmy Lee" and...it didn't generate much of a response at all.


https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3016951&mesg_id=3016951&listing_type=search

There was also this: https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3018104&mesg_id=3018104&listing_type=search

And this best of 2019 post, where 10 posters include it among their favs of the year:

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3015115&mesg_id=3015115&listing_type=search

Considering that that's 2019, when the amount of traffic to the Lesson had slowed DRAMATICALLY... that's pretty good. (When was the big outage that caused the first major exodus?)

But more to the point, their careers are incredibly different, and that trajectory was marked from an early date, imo. I don't know why anyone would have thought, past TTT, that Saadiq would be a superstar superstar. His solo lps varied in quality, in particular, almost always very good but i'm not sure he dropped a solo classic full-length.

But as an overall writer and musician and performer, he's top tier status, and I think his work as a collaborator is what really sets him apart. His legacy is much bigger than the output under his solo name or his specific bands.

A Seat at the Table was an event. He practically heralded the thing and wrote the song that the album in everyone's heads (Cranes). And that's not the only collab of that level?

It's foolishness at this point to question his career. What hasn't he done? Certified hits, both singles and records, as both writer for others and performer. Stellar live show.

He doesn't have a Black Messiah, but he doesn't need one.

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

get emmm

Which is what Buddy said he hoped for Saadiq (to be up there with D'Angelo as far as how we talk about D'Angelo) and what I said won't happen because of Saadiq's albums' quality.


If he said Saadiq doesn't have a classic album and everybody thinks ALL of D'Angelo's albums are classic, how was he not saying what I was saying?


I wasn't saying Saadiq wasn't a great artist, just Saadiq has a track record of albums that don't compare to D'Angelo's, Maxwell's, Badu's - that's several Saadiq couldn't rise up to their level for some reason (as far as albums)


Don't know why Saadiq couldn't, but Saadiq probably didn't get the help he needed and thought that he didn't need for his albums. On him for not assessing what he needed to make a classic album.

with the implication being he aint as talented as he thought cuz he hadnt heard from him in a minute.

you started talkin about albums, fine (irony not lost on you here 10 yrs later hopefully). saadiq prolly don’t have a classic album but hes certainly on the same level as d because of all the other shit he’s done over the course of 40 years. hard to discount that type of relevance.

"Ask of You" is otherworldly I thought he would have been a bigger solo star. "Instant Vintage" could have been a hands down classic if had someone to help him tweak and rewrite some things.

>damn he has a weak pen

He put out Jane Handcock's first project several years before she got on Death Row.2

He dropped Jimmy Lee about 4 years ago. It was okay. He finally took some musical risks and made more modern sounding music after the last 2 retro soul albums. It was about his addict brother. It had some cool songs and some forgettable ones.

Last I saw.. he's doing television scores and soundtracks, namely producing the soundtrack to Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur on Disney+.

Did the tour actually happen? It was being promoted pretty heavily for a while.

They were supposed to drop a new album or live album or something I recall too?

If y'all don't have IG, y'all missing out

IG is like a newspaper or something

https://youtu.be/XygXGO9bzBY?si=rEdY3vlZLrpAHHXU

If I played any better, I'd go for this one or the clear one from H.E.R.

Dude has been doing tons of stuff, he produced Beyonce's new
country stuff and also the Tony Toni Tone reunion thing . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bhFGPxC0ag

Sep 24, 2024 Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond


Raphael Saadiq is one of the great R&B writers and producers of the last 30 years. He started out fronting and playing bass in the group Tony! Toni! Toné! with his brother D’Wayne Wiggins on guitar. The Tony’s had an amazing four album run from ‘88 through 1996 with hit singles like "It Never Rains (In Southern California)," "Feels Good," "Anniversary," and "If I Had No Loot."

Raphael’s also released five solo albums starting with 2002’s Instant Vintage. His most recent album, Jimmy Lee, is a collection of very personal songs about the real traumas he and his family experienced growing up in Oakland, CA.

Raphael’s also done some amazing work behind the board. He’s produced and written for the likes of D’Angelo, TLC, Mary J. Blige, Solange, Earth Wind and Fire and just recently he worked on a handful of songs on Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter. He’s also earned an Academy Award nomination for his work as a film composer.

This week Justin Richmond talks with Raphael Saadiq from his studio in Los Angeles about some of the incredible work he’s done recently. Raphael breaks down his collaboration with D’Angelo on the classic track “Lady,” and how Sly Stone bassist Larry Graham influenced a generation of musicians coming up in the Bay Area.

You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Raphael Saadiq songs here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HT...

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ABOUT BROKEN RECORD

For generations of music lovers, the liner notes on albums were a central part of the way music was heard. You bought an album and it came with an accompanying narrative: a digression, an aside, a backstory—maybe even an invented history. We intuitively understood that great music required not just listening but conversation between the artist and the audience and the audience and the rest of the world.

Broken Record is a podcast that restarts those conversations—in a world without liner notes—for a new audience of music lovers.

Broken Record is hosted by Justin Richmond with interviews by producer Rick Rubin, writer Malcolm Gladwell, and former New York Times editor Bruce Headlam.

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Legendary artist, producer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist Raphael Saadiq talks about working on 'Cowboy Carter,' why the recent Tony! Toni! Toné! comeback tour is their last, and much, much more in an interview with host Brian Hiatt


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