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"Won the battle, lost the war....Rap edition"


  

          

Jay-Z vs Nas?

LL vs Canibus?

Jay-Z vs Jim Jones?

Dre vs Eazy?

What are some cases you can think of where one rapper one the lyrical/wax battle, but the other won in other ways? Whether it's career longevity, or finances (Eazy still getting paid off Dre)

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you think Eazy won? longterm? erk?
Sep 26th 2012
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RE: Won the battle, lost the war....Rap edition
Sep 26th 2012
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Canibus and LL is the perfect example of this
Sep 26th 2012
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RE: Canibus and LL is the perfect example of this
Sep 26th 2012
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Rick Ross and 50
Sep 26th 2012
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Here it is ^^^^
Sep 26th 2012
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I aaaaaalmost said it too!! Yeaa for sure
Sep 26th 2012
9
Rick Ross Won
Sep 26th 2012
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This is why this is a slippery slope
Sep 29th 2012
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50 and Cam'ron?
Sep 26th 2012
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I thnk they both lost the war lol
Sep 26th 2012
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Cam won all phases of that to me, 50 even named his next album Curtis
Sep 26th 2012
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      RE: Cam won all phases of that to me, 50 even named his next album Curti...
Sep 29th 2012
54
Tim Dogg vs everyone he ever dissed?
Sep 26th 2012
10
50 v. Ja... except both lost the war when 50 became the new Ja
Sep 26th 2012
12
Jay and Nas both won the war
Sep 26th 2012
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very true
Sep 28th 2012
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I hate this idea, it's such a cop-out. There is NO "war".
Sep 26th 2012
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you just admitted 50 won the battle but lost the war after
Sep 26th 2012
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      How did he win the battle? None of his antics mattered a week later
Sep 26th 2012
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           that's the battle...the cop shit, the baby momma shit
Sep 27th 2012
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                Ross didn't even make diss records towards 50, let's not call this a
Sep 28th 2012
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                     He def disses and videos toward 50 they just wasn't memorable
Sep 28th 2012
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                          'Kiss The Pinky Ring Curly' was funny though
Sep 28th 2012
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                          Note that all that stuff is way funnier than 50 in a wig
Sep 28th 2012
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                               lol, I mean, look at this dude
Sep 29th 2012
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                          Ah you right I forgot but actually I agree with Claw.
Sep 28th 2012
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                               Man you didn't even remember them now they better you prove
Sep 29th 2012
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                                    I don't remember because the beef was weak. Ross entertained me
Sep 29th 2012
63
Dr. Dre VS. Jermaine Dupri
Sep 26th 2012
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I mean...I'd say Dre won both, but I actually sided with JD on that one
Sep 26th 2012
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      I Never Understood That Beef Either
Sep 26th 2012
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      no doubt... that was almost a 'KRS' like move from Dre
Sep 28th 2012
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LL Cool J. VS. Kool Moe D., Ice T., & Hammer
Sep 26th 2012
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I'm not sure who you're saying won each battle in there, though
Sep 26th 2012
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      To Me LL Won Two Out Of Three Of The Wars
Sep 26th 2012
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      LL has way more respect musically than Ice-T & neither are viewed
Sep 27th 2012
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      So you're saying LL is not a legend in NY?!
Sep 27th 2012
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      LL beating Mo Dee in that battle is a misconception
Sep 28th 2012
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Young Jeezy VS. Gucci Mane
Sep 26th 2012
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nobody cares about Young jeezy or Gucci Manne?
Sep 26th 2012
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Id argue Gucci won the war tho; his implosion was self inflicted
Sep 28th 2012
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gucci ain't never had an impact like Trap or die or Streets is watchin
Sep 29th 2012
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      Of course
Sep 29th 2012
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           maybe Gucci had the streets for a year but overall
Sep 29th 2012
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As an ATL resident, I don't give a hot monkeyfuck about either.
Sep 29th 2012
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LOL. Y'all gotta gotta get out of the OKP ghetto
Sep 28th 2012
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The Roots VS. The Fugees
Sep 26th 2012
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RE: The Roots VS. The Fugees
Sep 27th 2012
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wtf happened!?
Sep 28th 2012
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I never bought the war concept in mc'ing
Sep 27th 2012
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nobody remembers ANY of LL's songs about that shit
Sep 28th 2012
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DOOM took out the entire M.I.C. crew with one subliminal.
Sep 27th 2012
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Where was this?
Sep 28th 2012
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      I think it was on MMM Food
Nov 08th 2012
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           That line was on Dangerdoom.
Nov 09th 2012
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how did Jim Jones win?
Sep 28th 2012
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Hobo Junction vs. Hieroglyphics
Sep 28th 2012
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that shit is legendary
Sep 28th 2012
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      You ever see the archived Lesson post with Casual talking about it?
Sep 28th 2012
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           Ahhh....those were the days.
Sep 28th 2012
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           RE: VANGLORIOUS
Sep 28th 2012
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This concept is bullshit and only comforts fans of battle losers
Sep 28th 2012
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BTW 50 won the battle and war with rick ross
Sep 29th 2012
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Nah, he totally lost
Nov 09th 2012
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co-sign everyone saying this "war" shit
Sep 29th 2012
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Game and 50
Sep 29th 2012
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W-w-w-well, yes and no. (c) Andre 3000
Nov 09th 2012
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      and also Game was one of the first to get behind TDE 2
Nov 09th 2012
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Selah
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1. "you think Eazy won? longterm? erk?"
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one dead of the ick the other still got folks clamoring and actually breathing (while looking like the gooch)?

  

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2. "RE: Won the battle, lost the war....Rap edition"
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Game vs 50 ...Game kept going at G-Unit so he actually made money off of the battle but in the end, the more actual records he sold....50 Cent go large %

50 was Easy E in the Dre beef...lol

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3. "Canibus and LL is the perfect example of this"
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Canibus let the internet (in fucken 1998 think abou that) and his fucken pride diss a legend with connections and depth. He should have keep his mouth shut and did that mixape track with LL and keep it moving..instead of he won the battle but he lost the fucken war...hook up with wycelf (another wtf??) got backlisted, drop a fucken dud and was never the same.

His carrer could have took a whole different track if he would have took LL advice instead of getting hype up by some usernames and pride.

Now he is a fucken running joke and I think directly responsible for the fall of NY and its lyrical rap in the rap game. folks was running from the rappity rappity methaphorical mcs after canibus and it let the more hook/beat true life oriented south come and take over.

HE just didn't lost HIS war...he help his whole region lose the damn war.

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4. "RE: Canibus and LL is the perfect example of this"
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wow....interesting perspective

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5. "Rick Ross and 50"
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50 killed him in the battle leaking the correction officer shit, the skits fucking his baby momma..

but in the war it just showed how tired 50 and his antics had became..he acutally made rick ross more famous and 50 was the Ja Rule in this situation folks had finally got tired of that shit. Rick ross became the underdog who stood up to 50 and came out better than he once was.

Now Rick ross and MMG poppin and 50 out here tryin to make ole YMCB folks blow up.

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6. "Here it is ^^^^"
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9. "I aaaaaalmost said it too!! Yeaa for sure"
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26. "Rick Ross Won"
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I don't care for either kats but it seems like Rick Ross is winning even though when he first came out nobody was rooting for him but now everyone is loving dude's music unlike 50 Cent who's music just went downhill and only does average on his mix-cd albums and terrible on his retail releases.

Also Rick Ross needs to keep his cot-damn shirt on, tired of passing by a magazine rack or seeing a mix-cd cover and his damn tatted gut & man-boobs popped out, I'm a big boy too but damn have some respect for yourself mane.


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59. "This is why this is a slippery slope"
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because if we are measuring money which most of the time yall are when 50 is still winning over Ross.

If you talking about songs in rotation then its Rick Ross but if you know the game then you know how that goes.

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7. "50 and Cam'ron?"
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although I think this was the beginning of the end of for ol' Curtis

I still can't figure out what the "dis" was in "Funeral Music"

the best dis he gave Cam was an ad-lib at the end of a Young Buck song ("said you got IBS, nigga you got A-I-D-S!!!")

that "Curtis" song was an all-out clowning. Then came the video, which took it to another level. He even used that picture of 50 from the Internet with the buckteeth... LOL

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8. "I thnk they both lost the war lol"
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50 officially broke up dip set...and that was the beginning of people getting tired of 50's bullying

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11. "Cam won all phases of that to me, 50 even named his next album Curtis"
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just trying to prove he wasn't upset about it but in term proving it had affected him.

  

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54. "RE: Cam won all phases of that to me, 50 even named his next album Curti..."
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Yeah, people who claim otherwise mystify me

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10. "Tim Dogg vs everyone he ever dissed?"
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12. "50 v. Ja... except both lost the war when 50 became the new Ja"
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13. "Jay and Nas both won the war"
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they both rich, Jay just happens to be richer than damn near anyone on the planet. Both in most people's top 10 of all time, neither lost

  

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48. "very true"
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14. "I hate this idea, it's such a cop-out. There is NO "war"."
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Battles are always temporary in hip-hop, especially since careers are so short. If you really buy into this line of thinking, then Jay-Z won every "war", Snoop won every "war", Dre won every "war", etc.. it's just a list of who has had sustained commercial success. Or it's a Forbes hip-hop list. Is that really what these battles were about in the first place?
50 Cent didn't win the battle with Rick Ross just because he did all that exposing. In the end he hurt himself more by pushing the issue so much that people started to get annoyed by his antics. Rick Ross has been fake from the beginning, so his credibility didn't suffer much. And 50's baby mother has gone harder to get under 50's skin than Ross's baby mother did.

  

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15. "you just admitted 50 won the battle but lost the war after"
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you said it wasn't a war lol

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22. "How did he win the battle? None of his antics mattered a week later"
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>you said it wasn't a war lol

Nothing stuck. Do you remember any lines from the diss records?

  

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28. "that's the battle...the cop shit, the baby momma shit"
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he def won the battle.

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41. "Ross didn't even make diss records towards 50, let's not call this a "
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>he def won the battle.

battle, shit is corny to label it as such. Maybe it was a beef but it wasn't a battle, Rick Ross wasn't even rapping.

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42. "He def disses and videos toward 50 they just wasn't memorable"
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his initall diss is my fav Ross song of all time tho..mafia music

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47. "'Kiss The Pinky Ring Curly' was funny though"
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that one freestyle he did over "Special Delivery"
and the video of him walking around NYC

Ro$$'s faces in that video... opening up rubbing his hands together like he about to hit the Cook Out drive-thru

then the "munkee" thing... LMAO.

  

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50. "Note that all that stuff is way funnier than 50 in a wig"
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>that one freestyle he did over "Special Delivery"
>and the video of him walking around NYC
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>Ro$$'s faces in that video... opening up rubbing his hands
>together like he about to hit the Cook Out drive-thru
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>then the "munkee" thing... LMAO.

Ross calling Curtis a "munkee" & "woodface" is still hilarious. Plus he called Eminem a "hunkee" hahahaha.
Calling Maserati Fox (one of 50's flunkies) "Mazda Cox" was also hilarious. And yeah Ross "Special Delivery" video was also high comedy.
I'mma say Ross won the beef rap and entertainment wise. "Officer Ricky" had a hot beat though.

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57. "lol, I mean, look at this dude"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErsyAvDtqJI#t=11s

the opening seconds of this video is probably one of the top 10 unintentionally funny Ross moments

  

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51. "Ah you right I forgot but actually I agree with Claw. "
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>his initall diss is my fav Ross song of all time tho..mafia
>music

I think Ross won that aspect of the beef too.

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58. "Man you didn't even remember them now they better you prove"
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my point lol

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63. "I don't remember because the beef was weak. Ross entertained me"
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more though. How do we call these things a battle though? There isn't one quality diss record or even a diss verse in the beef that has withstood the test of time.

Jay-Z vs Nas we remember the rhymes
Beans (Roc) vs Jada (D-Block) we remember the rhymes
50 vs Camron we remember the rhymes/songs
Lil Flip vs TI we remember the rhymes
Ludacris vs TI we remember the rhymes
Shawty Lo vs TI we remember the rhymes/songs
Jay-Z vs Dipset we remember the rhymes
50 vs Ja we remember the songs
Even Common and Drake each had a nice line or two

Rick Ross vs 50 Cent? ehh we remember the antics and side comments. It wasn't much of a rap battle, as a fan of rap music I'd say it wasn't anything memorable.

  

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16. "Dr. Dre VS. Jermaine Dupri"
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Who do you think really won the war?


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20. "I mean...I'd say Dre won both, but I actually sided with JD on that one"
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Only because I felt like Snoop...Dre never said SHIT to Suge, for obvious reasons, but then goes at JD...then gets fuckin Eminem to go at him...then Xzibit?? That was just doing waaaay too much over some "I'm as good as a producer as you are" comments.

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24. "I Never Understood That Beef Either"
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I know Snoop didn't want to go at JD at first but he just went along with it and Xzibit was stupid for even saying anything even Em was wrong for it but probably doesn't give a fuck either way; but to me how is Dre going to call out a producer who has produced more of his own hits when Dre has got more co-producers making beats for him when he's the real co-producer?


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35. "no doubt... that was almost a 'KRS' like move from Dre"
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>That was just doing waaaay
>too much over some "I'm as good as a producer as you are"
>comments.

I remember Jermaine Dupri's reply to that Eminem song (Dre sounded MAD). He said something about "booty-hole", I laughed.

  

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17. "LL Cool J. VS. Kool Moe D., Ice T., & Hammer"
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LL stayed dissing them kats long after they stopped rapping or basically until their rap career went in the toilet, but who do you think won the war since Kool Moe D. wrote that book, Ice T. now a big actor (which now LL is doing the same), and Hammer a preacher with money (even had a reality tv show)?


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21. "I'm not sure who you're saying won each battle in there, though"
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>LL stayed dissing them kats long after they stopped rapping
>or basically until their rap career went in the toilet, but
>who do you think won the war since Kool Moe D. wrote that
>book, Ice T. now a big actor (which now LL is doing the same),
>and Hammer a preacher with money (even had a reality tv
>show)?
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I figure you mean LL won each battle, but lost the wars?

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25. "To Me LL Won Two Out Of Three Of The Wars"
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>I'm not sure who you're saying won each battle in there, though
>I figure you mean LL won each battle, but lost the wars?


Personally I see it as LL winning the war with Kool Moe Dee and Hammer, but with Ice T., LL won the battles but lost the war cause Ice T. is more respected as an actor than LL and still considered a legend on the west coast unlike on the east coast most treat him as a sell-out musically and a lame actor.


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27. "LL has way more respect musically than Ice-T & neither are viewed"
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as good actors so I'm not sure why that matters.

  

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29. "So you're saying LL is not a legend in NY?!"
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38. "LL beating Mo Dee in that battle is a misconception"
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LL's disses were basically 'I have more money and women than you'
that might float today, but in that era?
not so much
Mo Dee's disses were much more personal and better written, and the only reason people don't remember it that way is because of LL's personality and status at the time (Mo Dee was ten years in-when there was no music industry-at that time, LL was the new jack still proving himself)

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18. "Young Jeezy VS. Gucci Mane"
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Aaaaahhhhh fuck it, nobody cares about these two clowns.


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19. "nobody cares about Young jeezy or Gucci Manne?"
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really that might have work back in trap or die era around here but Jeezy is loved around here now and so is Gucci...NANNY BOO BOO!

Jeezy won the war...but the fact Gucci came from the bottom back to the top is something you have to respect folk has threw him away the first time he got locked up (how long ago lol) for that murder charge

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46. "Id argue Gucci won the war tho; his implosion was self inflicted"
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during his prime mixtape era he WAS the trap...Jeezy's output didn't compare and id argue Gucci's street popularity.

After he tattoo'ed his face tho...

  

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55. "gucci ain't never had an impact like Trap or die or Streets is watchin"
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I'm sorry gucci had some great mixtapes but nothing he did hit the way trap or die did...few have really.

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61. "Of course"
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>I'm sorry gucci had some great mixtapes but nothing he did
>hit the way trap or die did...few have really.

But at the time, popularity wise...Gucci > Jeezy for at least a couple of years.

  

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64. "maybe Gucci had the streets for a year but overall"
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he never got nowhere nationwide popularity that jeezy got.

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53. "As an ATL resident, I don't give a hot monkeyfuck about either."
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45. "LOL. Y'all gotta gotta get out of the OKP ghetto"
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>Aaaaahhhhh fuck it, nobody cares about these two clowns.

  

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23. "The Roots VS. The Fugees"
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For years these two groups had a little unsaid scuff between each other but after The Fugees did that Chappelle Block Party I think the beef was squashed or is it?


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30. "RE: The Roots VS. The Fugees"
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woah, what? got any information regarding this?

  

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49. "wtf happened!?"
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well whatever happened. the roots stay winning now. like literally on all levels lol

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31. "I never bought the war concept in mc'ing "
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You have to look at every battle individually
This "war" shit was unheard if prior to bis vs LL
I think LL fans made this up as a plea cop to Their boy getting
Body bagged


An L is an L

Ice cube has an L to b real
LL has an L to bis
Jay has an L to Esco
Etc. etc

down/back,down,down,forward,up/forward,punch

  

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39. "nobody remembers ANY of LL's songs about that shit"
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that's pretty telling to me, even his status at the time couldn't get him over
that Ripper bullshit was pretty much over when the beat started, it was the exact opposite of what he needed

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32. "DOOM took out the entire M.I.C. crew with one subliminal."
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34. "Where was this?"
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65. "I think it was on MMM Food"
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He said something about joining a rap group called "Midgets Into Crunk"

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66. "That line was on Dangerdoom."
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Never picked up on it. Nice work.

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33. "how did Jim Jones win?"
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Cam won against 50 but 50 took down Dipset.

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36. "Hobo Junction vs. Hieroglyphics "
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40. "that shit is legendary"
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anybody that doesn't know or respect that battle is somebody I don't have much stock in their opinions on the shit

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43. "You ever see the archived Lesson post with Casual talking about it? "
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definitely worth the read man


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44. "Ahhh....those were the days."
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Damn I've been on here a long time.

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52. "RE: VANGLORIOUS"
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37. "This concept is bullshit and only comforts fans of battle losers"
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56. "BTW 50 won the battle and war with rick ross"
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he obviously won the battle
but i say he won the war too because he changed everyones perception of rick ross
and i think it has prevented ross from being more of a star today
has he gone platinum yet? has he headlined a MAJOR tour yet?
dude is still kind of a middle of the road rap star to me
and he obviously could be more in this climate of rap
50 cent not being relevant right now has absolutely NOTHING to do with rick ross
ppl were already weaning themselves off him before the kanye challenge and all that
combine that with 50 focusing more on movies and business and it was a natural transition (50 still makes more money from the entertainment industry than rick ross anyway....since these wars are really about commercial success)

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67. "Nah, he totally lost"
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The CO stuff didn't matter at the end of the day and it's not as if he was the one to break it. His snaps were about Ross's baby momma and other childish nonsense that fell on deaf ears, etc...it was his 'Superugly' disses that made HIM look inferior and not his competition.

All things considered (lack of rap skills, lack of a true pop hit, etc) Ross is doing GREAT in 2012...he's still a multimillionaire making Forbe's top 20 richest rappers(higher then 50 btw in 2012)

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eeel45jjgd/12-wiz-khalifa-9-million-tie-2/

>combine that with 50 focusing more on movies and business and
>it was a natural transition (50 still makes more money from
>the entertainment industry than rick ross anyway....since
>these wars are really about commercial success)

Not necessarily. 50 has been fucking whining his ass off over 5 mixtapes about how he's mad people think he's fallen off, it's not as if when 50 when after Ja-Rule all those residuals he was getting disappeared(or collabs with pop stars who were huge at the time like J-Lo). While someone looking at long money might rather be 50 then Rick Ross, Rick Ross is definately Even with 'God Forgives' flopping, people are still clamoring for Rick Ross verses and collabs. Who would want to do a song with 50 in 2012? LOL.

  

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60. "co-sign everyone saying this "war" shit "
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is some made up ish. to justify a loss. ain't no "war"

  

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62. "Game and 50"
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Game took out the whole G-Unit.

They all went from selling platinum records to flopping. Game singlehanded my waged a three year war on their whole crew. He had DVDs and clothing. Lloyd Blanks was never the same. Ditto for Yayo and Buck. None of them amounted to much after that. Meanwhile Game still putting out albums.

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68. "W-w-w-well, yes and no. (c) Andre 3000"
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50 Cent and G-Unit undoubtedly fell off, though I don't know if I would say that Game was the reason for it. I think his relentless nature did help sustain his own fan base around that time, but I think Game essentially threw a hell of a grenade on a ship that was already sinking.

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69. "and also Game was one of the first to get behind TDE 2"
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taking them on tour and stuff ..so he might have another life wit them.

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