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Bblock
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"and furthermore...i still don't like blu & exile's below the heaven"
Thu Jul-19-12 01:34 AM by Bblock

  

          

but i figure'd yall would appreciate this making of
http://www.xxlmag.com/features/2012/07/the-creation-of-blu-exiles-below-the-heavens-five-year-anniversary/

life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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RE: and furthermore...i still don't like blu & exile's below the heaven
Jul 19th 2012
1
it wasn't all that to me either.
Jul 19th 2012
2
5 yr anniversery? ...seriously?
Jul 19th 2012
3
it's okay, prolly a Top 5 'Overrated By OKP' album though
Jul 19th 2012
4
Haha - but didn't you just say...
Jul 19th 2012
5
individual opinions, sure, what I'm naming are works that got
Jul 19th 2012
9
      That doesn't change the fact that they're opinions...
Jul 19th 2012
23
           on the ones who actually are 'affiliated' who have more than one album
Jul 20th 2012
34
                RE: on the ones who actually are 'affiliated' who have more than one alb...
Jul 22nd 2012
36
                     Oh, and you don't consider BlackStar...
Jul 22nd 2012
37
                          apparently you didn't grasp the subject line
Jul 22nd 2012
38
                               No need to be a bitch, bitch.
Jul 23rd 2012
39
                                    heed your own advice, mad man
Jul 23rd 2012
40
                                         Sure thing
Jul 23rd 2012
41
Cold Vein belongs in that list
Jul 19th 2012
6
eh, Cold Vein doesn't get that much love here anymore, it's probably
Jul 19th 2012
10
I canNOT hear the "classic"ness of that album. Highly overrated,
Jul 19th 2012
21
      me either I Tried to like it the only thing I got it from
Jul 20th 2012
33
           Iron Galaxy as a whole is a beast opener, that beat & the cuts
Jul 20th 2012
35
lol@me LOVING all of those (and Cold Vein) :/
Jul 19th 2012
8
I remember the Damaja called it the best debut (or maybe even album?)
Jul 19th 2012
22
Umm. 'Black Star' is now UNDERRATED
Jul 24th 2012
43
      nah, one truly great song in Respiration, a cool BDP reworking joint
Jul 24th 2012
45
           IYO
Jul 24th 2012
46
                thanks for clarifying, sport
Jul 24th 2012
47
                     I gotchu
Jul 24th 2012
49
this really does not need to be done tho...are they tryin to make
Jul 19th 2012
7
RE: this really does not need to be done tho...are they tryin to make
Jul 19th 2012
11
*dead*
Jul 19th 2012
13
lol
Jul 19th 2012
20
This Brother went in LOL.
Jul 23rd 2012
42
That "A Man" joint from the new EP tho...
Jul 19th 2012
12
Exile's kind of obnoxious huh?
Jul 19th 2012
14
meh I think you are being too harsh....he actually gives props
Jul 19th 2012
16
      Common be turning down good stuff at an alarming rate
Jul 19th 2012
17
      I know...**sighs** damn shame
Jul 19th 2012
18
      he still would have namedropped celebrities and recycled an old flow
Jul 19th 2012
19
      I'm sure every artist has tons of dope beats submitted that they turn do...
Jul 19th 2012
25
      RE: Common be turning down good stuff at an alarming rate
Jul 24th 2012
44
      Yea you're probly right...
Jul 19th 2012
24
      usually I'm the harsh/reactionary one ha
Jul 19th 2012
26
           Yea and I'm a HUGE Exile fan...
Jul 19th 2012
27
                RE: Yea and I'm a HUGE Exile fan...
Jul 20th 2012
29
                     Yea don't get me wrong...
Jul 20th 2012
30
                          guess I give him a pass for that cuz
Jul 20th 2012
32
      Common would sound like a flower pot head on Exile beats
Jul 20th 2012
31
Damn, when is new Emanon dropping??
Jul 19th 2012
15
thx for posting. nice read.
Jul 19th 2012
28
if you don't like BTH i'm convinced you can't like blu
Jul 24th 2012
48

Bblock
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1. "RE: and furthermore...i still don't like blu & exile's below the heaven"
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life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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2. "it wasn't all that to me either."
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i like the snippets from the new one tho.

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3. "5 yr anniversery? ...seriously? "
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k.

  

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4. "it's okay, prolly a Top 5 'Overrated By OKP' album though"
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along with Black Star, Grind Date, Game Theory & maybe Stakes Is High.

  

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5. "Haha - but didn't you just say..."
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>along with Black Star, Grind Date, Game Theory & maybe Stakes
>Is High.

"everyone's entitled to their opinions" in the Nas post?

In other words, yea people around here love all the albums you just named (me included) but...that's just part of having an opinion, which we're entitled to, isn't it?

Iunno.

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9. "individual opinions, sure, what I'm naming are works that got"
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a highly disproportionate amount of praise/acclaim here contrasted by their overall view/standing in the genre outside of it.


  

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23. "That doesn't change the fact that they're opinions..."
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and naturally the albums you named are gonna get praise on a website created by a group who in one way or another is affiliated with every artist represented by those albums...

I mean I get what you're saying but I don't, at the same time. Haha. Not trying to bust balls.

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34. "on the ones who actually are 'affiliated' who have more than one album"
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which in this case means De La & The Roots, those albums are viewed in higher regard compared to the rest of their catalog here than anywhere else.

You will never hear people outside this site bring up Game Theory as The Roots' best album, here it's damn near the majority.

You will also never read Stakes Is High or Grind Date brought up in a 'best rap albums' list like you will see 3 Feet or Dead but here (particularly amongst the younger contingent) they're often touted as being better.

This is what places albums like this in the 'Overrated-On-OKP' category, their place is measurably disproportionate to the overall consensus.

Get It? Good.

  

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36. "RE: on the ones who actually are 'affiliated' who have more than one alb..."
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>which in this case means De La & The Roots, those albums are
>viewed in higher regard compared to the rest of their catalog
>here than anywhere else.

Such as where?


>You will never hear people outside this site bring up Game
>Theory as The Roots' best album, here it's damn near the
>majority.

Where outside this site?

Just about anybody I've ever talked to, Internet or face to face, who likes the Roots considers Game Theory to be one of their best 2 or 3 albums


>You will also never read Stakes Is High or Grind Date brought
>up in a 'best rap albums' list like you will see 3 Feet or
>Dead but here (particularly amongst the younger contingent)
>they're often touted as being better.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone call Grind Date their best album or even close to it. But plent of people here and elsewhere say they love it. Again, an opinion. It got good reviews.


>This is what places albums like this in the 'Overrated-On-OKP'
>category, their place is measurably disproportionate to the
>overall consensus.
>
>Get It? Good.

No need to be a bitch, bitch.

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37. "Oh, and you don't consider BlackStar..."
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Roots affiliates?

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38. "apparently you didn't grasp the subject line"
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39. "No need to be a bitch, bitch."
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40. "heed your own advice, mad man"
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41. "Sure thing"
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6. "Cold Vein belongs in that list"
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


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10. "eh, Cold Vein doesn't get that much love here anymore, it's probably"
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considered 'Thriller' in certain underground or Def Jux circles but I'm not that familiar with those groups.

  

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21. "I canNOT hear the "classic"ness of that album. Highly overrated,"
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Since 1976

  

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33. "me either I Tried to like it the only thing I got it from"
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it was the stillborn line

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35. "Iron Galaxy as a whole is a beast opener, that beat & the cuts"
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on there along with the rapping was special.

  

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8. "lol@me LOVING all of those (and Cold Vein) :/"
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>along with Black Star, Grind Date, Game Theory & maybe Stakes
>Is High.


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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22. "I remember the Damaja called it the best debut (or maybe even album?)"
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since "Illmatic". That was quite a stretch. It was solid but that type of Hip-Hop isn't really the type of stuff that make me lose my shit or resort to hyperbole...

  

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43. "Umm. 'Black Star' is now UNDERRATED"
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You guys who have fear of being labelled a backpacker
starting distancing yourself from it

Same crowd who unfairly shits on Talib in general

'Black Star' is in the masterpiece category, anyone
with ears knows it, its not debatable



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45. "nah, one truly great song in Respiration, a cool BDP reworking joint"
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and a solid opening salvo in Astronomy.

The rest is some of Hi-Tek's sleepiest beatwork, a lame Slick Rick homage which is basically redundant with Hater Players, and not much else worth remembering outside *maybe* Thieves In The Night.

It's a twelve-song collabo album that still manages to have plenty of snoozeworthy skipping material on it.

It's correct view is about a three-star out of five album when evaluated as an actual album outside the cultural milileu it was borne out of & symbolized.

Both Mos & Kweli's first solos were better and neither of those are amongst the Top 25-50 records this genre has to offer either.

Respiration is an all-time great rap song though, that was true then & remains true now.

  

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46. "IYO"
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47. "thanks for clarifying, sport"
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49. "I gotchu"
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n/m

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7. "this really does not need to be done tho...are they tryin to make"
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that nigga get his carrer together or something?

cause if he would have lived up to the potential of this album there would be no need to be this nostalgic about an album that came out 5 years ago and a nigga still proving himself.

Cold hearted is amazing tho I'll give him that.

like mofo having 5 year high school class reunion...yall just want a reason to get fucked up stop it..most of yall still living at home right outta school talkin about 5 year reunion.

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11. "RE: this really does not need to be done tho...are they tryin to make"
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>like mofo having 5 year high school class reunion...yall just
>want a reason to get fucked up stop it..most of yall still
>living at home right outta school talkin about 5 year
>reunion.

Hahahaha good call.

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13. "*dead*"
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>like mofo having 5 year high school class reunion...yall just
>want a reason to get fucked up stop it..most of yall still
>living at home right outta school talkin about 5 year
>reunion.
>

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20. "lol"
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42. "This Brother went in LOL."
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12. "That "A Man" joint from the new EP tho..."
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SICK!!!

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14. "Exile's kind of obnoxious huh?"
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Says a bunch of corny shit throughout this. Especially his last line, killed me:

"That led to the formation of Blu & Exile, and the making of the *now classic* Below the Heavens"

FOH bro who says that.

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16. "meh I think you are being too harsh....he actually gives props"
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to a lot of different people in that interview...seems just generally enthusiastic about the album.

I don't blame him...its not a perfect album by any means but it is a phenomenal release- an outstanding album and he's a big part of why.

But dude actually comes across as Blu AND Aloe Blacc's biggest fan.


I didn't mind the read either...they are clearly trying to build hype and re-establish the brand after Blu's actions lately. Don't blame em at all.

Decent read...didn't realize how important Emanon was to putting Blu on...

***I'm still trying to figure out why Common turned down beats by Exile

  

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17. "Common be turning down good stuff at an alarming rate"
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>***I'm still trying to figure out why Common turned down beats
>by Exile


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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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18. "I know...**sighs** damn shame"
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19. "he still would have namedropped celebrities and recycled an old flow"
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so maybe be grateful someone else got them

  

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25. "I'm sure every artist has tons of dope beats submitted that they turn do..."
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we just hear about Common's a lot cause Kanye can't shut his mouth and other producers name drop him because who wouldn't want to submit beats to Common, especially pre-2007.

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44. "RE: Common be turning down good stuff at an alarming rate"
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Isn't Exile white? LOL...

  

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24. "Yea you're probly right..."
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now that I've had some time to think of it that post was reactionary.

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Stadiq
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26. "usually I'm the harsh/reactionary one ha"
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Brew
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27. "Yea and I'm a HUGE Exile fan..."
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so I'm not even really sure why I went at him like that hah. It was the end of the work day tho so I guess it was just the office bringin me down.

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howisya
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29. "RE: Yea and I'm a HUGE Exile fan..."
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i'd be turned off if one of my favorite artists called their just 5-years-old album a "classic" to the camera

  

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Brew
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30. "Yea don't get me wrong..."
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that line still gets the "WTF" look from me. I was just saying I don't know why I went as far as to call the guy "obnoxious" in a general sense since really that's the only line in the whole interview that really made me go "this mufucker serious?"

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Stadiq
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32. "guess I give him a pass for that cuz "
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I kind of feel for him.

I mean, with Blu's recent antics he has kind of f*cked up things for both of them....including their paper.

They have to re-establish the brand for this release.

That line's over the top, but I get why...

  

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31. "Common would sound like a flower pot head on Exile beats"
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>***I'm still trying to figure out why Common turned down beats
>by Exile

He's been there, done that, he needs a little bit more urban thump than Exile can provide. It would have been hard for him to play the "I'm more masculine than you" card with Drake if he was rapping over Exile's Cali happy face beats.

  

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15. "Damn, when is new Emanon dropping??"
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28. "thx for posting. nice read."
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i think i was the 1st one back in the day to post about bLu.. i had bought the 1st 12" singLe exiLe put out w/ kard off. on the A side, and i bought that joint because i heard the b-side, and bLu was ripping on the OG version of souL provider and the beat was way more raw, and i actuaLLy thought he was E-Voc from the B.U.M.S. who had went & gone soLo. LoL. bought that piece from UGHH.com. anyway, i had aLL the sound in coLor joints on vinyL too& shit.. the earLy mid 00's wasnt a bad time in hiphop Looking back, esp when myspace 1st was crackin

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Benedict the Moor
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48. "if you don't like BTH i'm convinced you can't like blu"
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because literally nothing else he's put out has come close



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