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"Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History"


  

          

Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History?

At the end of his career or even now...how do you think he will be remembered in the hip hop culture?

Icon?

Dope producer?

Averge MC?

Dope MC?

Overall Dope Artist?

Thoughts

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good overall but it depends on how his career goes
Apr 11th 2012
1
Ike Turner. That really seemed like a good example to you?
Apr 11th 2012
5
      RE: Ike Turner. That really seemed like a good example to you?
Apr 12th 2012
63
an icon of the modern era
Apr 11th 2012
2
puffy with a tad more talent, but not much
Apr 11th 2012
3
Hahahaha bro c'mon...
Apr 11th 2012
4
      he ain't half as talented as his Stans make him out to be
Apr 11th 2012
35
           I disagree but even still...
Apr 11th 2012
36
           he is about neck and neck with Puffy IMO except for his bongo beats
Apr 11th 2012
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                RE: he is about neck and neck with Puffy IMO except for his bongo beats
Apr 12th 2012
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           RE: he ain't half as talented as his Stans make him out to be
Apr 12th 2012
56
                he isn't that memorable to me as a rapper. i mean i'd take Special Ed
Apr 12th 2012
64
David Bowie was Rock's Kanye n/m
Apr 11th 2012
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That's what I've always best compared him to
Apr 11th 2012
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on point. nm
Apr 11th 2012
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My reply.
Apr 11th 2012
37
maybe the most influential musical artist of the early 21st century
Apr 11th 2012
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i was talking to a friend about this
Apr 11th 2012
8
Drug habits?
Apr 11th 2012
9
      I assume "Hell of a Life" was him admitting to a coke habit
Apr 11th 2012
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      Haha - do me a favor?
Apr 11th 2012
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           Well chorus is "No more drugs for me"
Apr 11th 2012
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                Word. Thanks
Apr 11th 2012
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      RE: Drug habits?
Apr 11th 2012
41
           RE: Drug habits?
Apr 12th 2012
45
           Haha - wow.
Apr 12th 2012
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           I think you read way too much into his lyrics.
Apr 12th 2012
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                I agree with this.
Apr 12th 2012
61
Don't flame me for this...
Apr 11th 2012
11
This is part of why I can't listen to him anymore
Apr 11th 2012
13
Nigga please
Apr 11th 2012
18
what Miles Davis are you talking about Willis?
Apr 12th 2012
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      that was funny
Apr 12th 2012
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uber talented/creative/enigmatic/bumptious and some would even
Apr 11th 2012
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3 star artist/producer
Apr 11th 2012
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GOAT rap artist. Cry about it.
Apr 11th 2012
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RE: GOAT rap artist. Cry about it.
Apr 11th 2012
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you asked how we thought he'd be remembered by the hip hop culture
Apr 11th 2012
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      LOL
Apr 11th 2012
44
           if he died today he'd be nothing short of Tupac status. Deal.
Apr 12th 2012
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                Actually he wouldn't be close
Apr 12th 2012
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                     no we love how in denial you are about music outside
Apr 22nd 2012
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ha no
Apr 12th 2012
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lmao @ you and tiger woods nm
Apr 22nd 2012
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Ye records that are classics
Apr 11th 2012
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weird choices IMO but I like it
Apr 11th 2012
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if by weird you mean terrible then sure
Apr 11th 2012
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this fool said "heartless"
Apr 11th 2012
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nigga you can get 4 off Graduation alone.
Apr 11th 2012
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Im sayin.
Apr 11th 2012
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Runaway at a family reunion? Word?
Apr 11th 2012
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No "Cant Tell Me Nothin" makes the list void immediately
Apr 11th 2012
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      all of the lights is a terrible choice
Apr 22nd 2012
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as BrooklynWHAT's side dick
Apr 11th 2012
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Icon
Apr 11th 2012
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RE: Icon
Apr 12th 2012
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IDK. It's hard to have perspective in the moment.
Apr 11th 2012
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RE: IDK. It's hard to have perspective in the moment.
Apr 11th 2012
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Given what he's done already Icon
Apr 11th 2012
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RE: Given what he's done already Icon
Apr 11th 2012
34
Most white people hate Kanye
Apr 11th 2012
39
He's already a mega star Icon..
Apr 12th 2012
51
Really annoying dude who was a great producer
Apr 12th 2012
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One of the greatest...
Apr 12th 2012
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      annoying doesn't equal hate
Apr 12th 2012
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           RE: annoying doesn't equal hate
Apr 12th 2012
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                word. i agree for the most part
Apr 12th 2012
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                RE: annoying doesn't equal hate
Apr 12th 2012
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RE: Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History
Apr 19th 2012
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RE: Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History
Apr 22nd 2012
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I'm inclined to agree w/k_orr on this one
Apr 22nd 2012
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RE: Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History
Apr 22nd 2012
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Sean PPPPPPPP
Apr 22nd 2012
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one of the GOAT Artist
Apr 22nd 2012
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hardware
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1. "good overall but it depends on how his career goes"
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all it takes is one slip

i mean, Ike Turner was dope, but nobody talks about that

  

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5. "Ike Turner. That really seemed like a good example to you?"
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>all it takes is one slip
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>i mean, Ike Turner was dope, but nobody talks about that

  

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63. "RE: Ike Turner. That really seemed like a good example to you?"
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lol

  

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2. "an icon of the modern era"
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on the post-Biggie rap mount rushmore along with Jay, Em, and Outkast

  

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3. "puffy with a tad more talent, but not much"
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marginal everything

but a Hype man within his own Hype that is almost peerless in Hip hop and that is saying something.

nobody past or present knows how to PR themselves better than this man and that includes Puffy, never thought I d say that but Puffy still is a smarter business brand though

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Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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4. "Hahahaha bro c'mon..."
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Kanye is INFINITELY more talented than Puffy.

C'mon.

And I don't even like Kanye all that much anymore.

But c'mon.

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35. "he ain't half as talented as his Stans make him out to be"
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he just got over at a below average time in Hip hop and Music in general IMO.

10 years back Roc a Fella didn't even want to allow that turkey to make a solo album they were like Produce all you want but a solo career? NAW!

and at first "through the Wire" stalled for a minute.

he is a average act IMO

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36. "I disagree but even still..."
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you didn't respond to the issue at hand.

Even an AVERAGE artist is better than Puffy. Puffy ain't even average. He has not one lick of artistic talent. He's a backup dancer with business skills. People produce his tracks and write his rhymes. Kanye, even at his WORST on the mic and on the boards is INFINITELY more artistically inclined than Puffy. No one can argue that, no matter what your overall opinion on Kanye is.

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38. "he is about neck and neck with Puffy IMO except for his bongo beats"
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average to Below Average MC

as a lyricist he bout neck and neck with Hammer and I liked Hammer more

you see I grew up on Hip Hop and this turkey looking like Kurtis Blow's long lost son minus the California Curl and twirl is Overrated big time.

yeah he is cut from the same cloth as Puffy because he samples and has a push for cross over that automatically somebody pushed that agenda, however ain't no other era that this turkey could have come out and not been clowned except in the mid to late 90's.

Puffy is a talented less turkey and yet he is a blueprint for alot of what I see with Kayne imagery and stylewise.

Kayne bores me with his rapping and i don't get the hype at all.

the Hype and Media Attention has him like He is Tom brady, but his actual game to my ears is like Tim Tebow all wheels and no steering wheel.

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Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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46. "RE: he is about neck and neck with Puffy IMO except for his bongo beats"
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Haha!

He does look like a young Kurtis Blow, though.

  

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56. "RE: he ain't half as talented as his Stans make him out to be"
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>he just got over at a below average time in Hip hop and Music
>in general IMO.
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>10 years back Roc a Fella didn't even want to allow that
>turkey to make a solo album they were like Produce all you
>want but a solo career? NAW!


umm... Roc A Fella wasn't known for breaking superstars so it doesn't really surprise me they weren't feeling Kanye.

Dude wasn't a street hustler writing back alley drug deal raps...

  

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64. "he isn't that memorable to me as a rapper. i mean i'd take Special Ed"
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over him why you jiving. Kayne came along in a very watered down time and had a few pieces of chalk that stuck to a tree and now he is getting this pass, but that turkey is madd corny and overrated.

and it don't matter the bottom line as big as Jay Z is and as branded as the Roc is, they still looked at Kayne putting out a record as if he was Kevin federline or something.

they didn't believe in that turkey until it hit. beleive that.

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6. "David Bowie was Rock's Kanye n/m"
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10. "That's what I've always best compared him to"
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Someone who can move with the times and knows how to surround himself with the right ppl. Might have arrogance more on the level of Lennon and Jagger but overall closest to Bowie

  

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21. "on point. nm"
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do or die

  

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37. "My reply. "
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7. "maybe the most influential musical artist of the early 21st century"
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8. "i was talking to a friend about this"
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i really dont see kanye living to be an old man. i feel like he might fall deeper into his drug habits and crazy lifestyle and eventually die at a somewhat young age.

i think if he dies young he'll be remembered as one of the greatest artists of our generation.

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9. "Drug habits?"
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14. "I assume "Hell of a Life" was him admitting to a coke habit"
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Heck I assume making 808's & Heartbreaks was admitting to a coke habit lol

  

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15. "Haha - do me a favor?"
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I don't have time to look up and read the lyrics right now but can you specify any lines where you think he gave that away?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I listened to 808s one time and MBDPF maybe 5-10x so I guess I just didn't pick up on that.

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17. "Well chorus is "No more drugs for me""
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I doubt he's just talking about weed, especially when he says "I'mma need a whole day, at least roll doja"

and "I think I feel in love with a pornstar, and got married in the bathroom". Could be talking about having sex in the bathroom but coke is the sense I got

As far as 808's it's just the whole 80's New York/New Wave coke vibe (Think American Psycho) as well as the arrogance of singing a whole album.

  

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19. "Word. Thanks"
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41. "RE: Drug habits?"
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dude references coke a ton. "Church in the Wild" "Power" "Hell of a Life" and a few others on MBDTF.

And idk he just has the rock star aura about him, that I think he's gonna die young. Just a weird hunch.

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45. "RE: Drug habits?"
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n/m

  

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49. "Haha - wow."
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In the very first line on "Church" too huh? Crazy. I haven't liked his recent output so I never caught on to these references but now I'm gonna pay more attention. Pretty wild shit.

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60. "I think you read way too much into his lyrics."
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Has he indulged in recreational drugs? Probably but I haven't seen any real evidence that he has a real problem (i.e. Lindsay Lohan and that ilk). If anything the drug references stem from the lifestyle he is surrounded by. He seems to be too disciplined to fall into the addict category.

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61. "I agree with this."
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I was listening today to all these references, and while it's pretty clear that he partakes, I wouldn't expect that he has an "issue" either.

That said, I do think the fact that he's so open about it may be cause for future concern. I mean nicknaming a line of coke on a black chick's skin (No Church in the Wild) is pretty heavy haha especially for a topic so typically taboo in hiphop.

But still, I'd be shocked if he ever got to the point where it was a serious issue for him. It's pretty clear from how he talks about it that he LIKES it, but like you said, he seems fairly disciplined so I'd be surprised.

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11. "Don't flame me for this..."
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... but I honestly feel, from a historical perspective, people will see it this way:

Kanye West is to hip-hop what Miles Davis was to Jazz.

In regards to innovation, in regards to pushing himself beyond the borders of what is traditionally considered hip-hop, in regards to his cutting edge approach to producing tracks.

But he has more work to do- he started off good and fell victim to the party and materialism culture that is so prevalent in hip-hop.

I feel Kanye is out-of-touch with his original fan-base. I don't think he relates to the common person that is struggling, and that's a problem. He came down to visit Occupy Wall St. NY last year and the irony is that just months prior to that he released an album with Jay-Z that was based on his luxuries and lavish 1% lifestyle. Many Kanye fans can't relate or identify with that. And i personally feel it's a slap in the face to smear your riches in the faces of struggling people while we are in a recession.

He's also extremely confident, some would say arrogant. So was Miles.

I'm a longtime Kanye fan and truly believe that he's brilliant, but like all human beings, he's flawed.

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13. "This is part of why I can't listen to him anymore"
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>I feel Kanye is out-of-touch with his original fan-base. I
>don't think he relates to the common person that is
>struggling, and that's a problem. He came down to visit Occupy
>Wall St. NY last year and the irony is that just months prior
>to that he released an album with Jay-Z that was based on his
>luxuries and lavish 1% lifestyle. Many Kanye fans can't relate
>or identify with that. And i personally feel it's a slap in
>the face to smear your riches in the faces of struggling
>people while we are in a recession.

Even the sound of his BEATS reflects this, as well as his refusal to do production outside of he and Jay's recent work. Whereas previously, he would put in work for anyone he thought he could make the right sound for.

I miss the "Guess Who's Back" days, and shit like that. Simple, hiphop, beats. He don't do that anymore. Everything is an event. IMO he's been largely unlistenable since Graduation. But I realize I'm probably in the minority.

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18. "Nigga please"
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47. "what Miles Davis are you talking about Willis?"
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because if you are talking about Miles Davis that works the drive thru at Martys Burger and onion rings joint then cool, but if you are talking about Miles Davis the trumpet player then you is on that double crack.

Miles Davis changed the course of music a few times, Kayne west barely has a done a thing musically.

miles made classic albums and brought in great young fresh talent.

Kayne couldn't carry Miles Davis's Wig let alone be put in the same sentence as him.

turkeys be on that double Crack with these kind of statements, you can pass that on to some younger turkey who don't know no better, Quincy Jones will drop his snow bunnies over that kinda statement and he already told you how Jive Kayne is as a so called Producer.



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54. "that was funny"
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marty's burger and onion rings.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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12. "uber talented/creative/enigmatic/bumptious and some would even"
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say he's a genius...

Me personally, I say he's a jack of many trades, master of none

-He's a good rhymesayer, nowhere near great though
-His beats are hit and miss imo but I give him an A for effort because he is willing to experiment w/different sounds that HipHop listeners are used to hearing

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16. "3 star artist/producer"
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in a media/commercial era

  

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20. "GOAT rap artist. Cry about it. "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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22. "RE: GOAT rap artist. Cry about it. "
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So, he is the #1 rap artist of all time to you? Over Jay-Z, LL and Tupac? (Not MC but Artist)

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24. "you asked how we thought he'd be remembered by the hip hop culture"
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im telling you what i think that the people who write history will think.

he has the hits, the discography, the icon status, the critical acclaim, and he's still climbing.

and if he dies young (say before 40)? shit. lock it up.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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44. "LOL"
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you can't honestly believe that.

  

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50. "if he died today he'd be nothing short of Tupac status. Deal."
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65. "Actually he wouldn't be close"
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People have no sense of perspective when it comes to shit like this.

And I love how you ending with "deal"

I can only imagine how tough you felt after typing that.

  

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70. "no we love how in denial you are about music outside"
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YOUR box

if he died today, yes the mythos around YE would be the shit of legend in itself. he would def elevate to damn near Pac status, in particular for the alt/professional/boho-Black fans and casual to stannish whites

  

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52. "ha no"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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74. "lmao @ you and tiger woods nm"
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23. "Ye records that are classics"
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classics defined as music you can put on @ the family reunion & everybody from big mama to lil junebug in the doo doo pamper are gonna get on the good foot to it

1) jesus walks
2) heartless
3) runaway


IMO it takes @ LEAST 5 to join the pantheon. he's missing @ least 2.

ill cosign him being the bowie/king crimson of hip hop tho

  

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25. "weird choices IMO but I like it"
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But just watch Kanye's Coachella performance from last year.

He has more "classics" IMO than any modern rap artist, at least in the sphere of hip hop.

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40. "if by weird you mean terrible then sure"
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26. "this fool said "heartless""
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stop talking about music dude

  

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27. "nigga you can get 4 off Graduation alone."
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stronger
cant tell me nothin
good life
flashing lights

watch that coachella set where went 2+ straight hours of HITS. that everybody knows.

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43. "Im sayin."
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28. "Runaway at a family reunion? Word?"
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I can't see that.

Slow Jamz or Golddigger or Touch the Sky or Good Life I can see.

  

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42. "No "Cant Tell Me Nothin" makes the list void immediately"
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Edit:

And if you really had to choose five indisputable Kanye joints that nearly everyone loves, they'd likely be

1. Can't Tell Me Nothin
2. Jesus Walks
3. Touch The Sky
4. All Falls Down
5. All of the Lights

and I mean I'm being hella conservative here. But those five songs are flawless, and I don't even know if that's up for debate at this point. You'd be hard pressed to find another post-2000 rapper not named Jay-Z or Outkast that has five songs that strong.

  

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71. "all of the lights is a terrible choice "
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A LOT of people hate that record

  

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29. "as BrooklynWHAT's side dick"
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30. "Icon"
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Icons are known for their personality and impact on said field. Everyone knows their name in the category and can remember at least one thing they did. Kanye fits the bill. From many hits to crazy shenanigans (George W. Bush, award shows), Kanye has done it all. History only remembers the people that do it big and Kanye has been doing it for the past 10 years. Icon. Hip Hop Legend. Kanye doesn't have to be the best, just one of the best known.

  

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48. "RE: Icon"
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Good point

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31. "IDK. It's hard to have perspective in the moment."
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Remember all the artist who were the hugest thing in the world at a given time and then just kind of went away and eclipsed by some later act?

Remember how large Bone was? ATCQ? Boys II Men? MC Hammer? Granted Kanye is probably more talented than a lot of those big acts I mentioned but let's admit that a time will come when dude won't be making the bangers and will have to rely on nostalgia and catalouge to be considered and Icon. For some reason I can't see Kanye being cool with at.


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33. "RE: IDK. It's hard to have perspective in the moment."
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>Remember how large Bone was?

Kanye's lasted way longer.

ATCQ?

Considered legends.

Boys II Men?

Kanye's lasted longer.

MC Hammer?

Kanye's lasted WAY longer.

>Granted Kanye is probably more talented than a lot of those
>big acts I mentioned but let's admit that a time will come
>when dude won't be making the bangers and will have to rely on
>nostalgia and catalouge to be considered and Icon. For some
>reason I can't see Kanye being cool with at.

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32. "Given what he's done already Icon"
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he;s still Active so he wont get the that title yet.
But Ye has had a big of an inpact as any hip-hop artist in his era.

Household name, has classic songs, classics albums..

I think he'll be appreciated for his achievements as a overall artist more so than one of the greatest MC's or greatest producers..

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34. "RE: Given what he's done already Icon"
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I agree 100%

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39. "Most white people hate Kanye"
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Yea.. Most white people hate Kanye, so I know he will be viewed as a cocky ass mofo!.. Us homey's will remember him as something great..

But here is the thing, I think he still needs a few more albums to receive that legendary status, so we'll see what the future holds..

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51. "He's already a mega star Icon.."
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https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

  

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53. "Really annoying dude who was a great producer"
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has a lot of good songs and some really good albums.he is very talented, i still don't think he is that great at rapping. his new song doesn't move me at all though.

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55. "One of the greatest..."
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you can hate all you want but he can produce and his raps are way above average. He's funny, witty and addresses topics that most MC's avoid.

The negro called out George W Bush on national TV when black people were beyond pissed over Katrina.

Kanye is a pure artist.

  

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57. "annoying doesn't equal hate"
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if you think he is a great rapper, good for you.

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58. "RE: annoying doesn't equal hate"
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sorry.. I didn't mean to respond to your post. I meant in general, people can hate Kanye all they want but he is an icon.

I never said he was a great rapper... I said way above average. Plenty of great rappers can't make good songs. Kanye makes good songs and the raps aren't half bad.

  

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59. "word. i agree for the most part"
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62. "RE: annoying doesn't equal hate"
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Yep.............he makes good songs....that is a gift...a lot of MC's can RAP...alot of them cant make songs..

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66. "RE: Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History"
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One of hip-hop's true great artists. I'll never be able to understand people who shit on his first two albums, or even his third one to a lesser extent. Granted, he's never gonna be the most talented rapper, but he was always exciting to hear (save a few verses).

Shameless plug: I wrote something on him for my blog, feel free to check it http://thomasbowe.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/leave-kanye-alone.html

  

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67. "RE: Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History"
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Graduation was an amazing LP to me front to back. Take off Hot Girls w/mos and add another track and its classic to me

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68. "I'm inclined to agree w/k_orr on this one"
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it's going to be favorable, albeit a lil controversial... provided he doesn't trot out a bunch of POO POO in the coming years

but Kanye, while not being a great innovator in the grand scheme of things, definitely was a lightning rod both in and outside of the music. his road to the top and staying power despite how uneven his discography is rather unique in the genre.

plus I don't know if he's someone that people could dare imitate. listening to Kanye has been a bit of a rollercoaster ride over the years... certainly, I would have never expected this after hearing "Through The Wire" almost 10 years ago.

  

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69. "RE: Reflection: How do you feel Kanye West will be viewed in History"
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72. "Sean PPPPPPPP"
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Sean P...LOL

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73. "one of the GOAT Artist"
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