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mistermaxxx08
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"was Billie Holiday the Most Painful Female singer ever?"
Tue Mar-27-12 08:59 PM by mistermaxxx08

          

often this is what it gets Holiday alot of props from folks the suffering in her voice then again you get some folks who think she tinkered with Kermit the frog and just couldn't sang.

now Mary J Bliege is said to have this as well and also Nina Simone.

but i ask did Billie Holiday's singing to you showcase the most painful tones of any female singer ever?

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LMAO...this should be good
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ENGLISH, MUTHA FUCKA !
Mar 27th 2012
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are you crazy maxx..... her voice was amazing in its tone
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It's a strange day when I'm agreeing with maxx
Mar 27th 2012
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      I call bullshit
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           exactly....she was as influential a female singer back during a
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                The deification of her came later though
Mar 28th 2012
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                     People toss that word "legend" around like its copies of the Metro
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                          RE: People toss that word "legend" around like its copies of the Metro
Mar 28th 2012
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Thats Fine By Me,,,,
Mar 28th 2012
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1. "LMAO...this should be good"
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Pete Burns
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Tue Mar-27-12 08:48 PM

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2. "ENGLISH, MUTHA FUCKA !"
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>often this is what is gets Holiday alot of props from folks


DO YOU SPEAK IT ??!!



What the blood claaat ???

  

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Warren Coolidge
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Tue Mar-27-12 09:19 PM

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3. "are you crazy maxx..... her voice was amazing in its tone"
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none like it ever

  

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CRM
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Tue Mar-27-12 09:28 PM

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4. "It's a strange day when I'm agreeing with maxx"
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I can't stand her voice. Hate her tone, I just hear someone who couldn't sing who doesn't affect me emotionally. People all too readily buy into her story and tragedy of her life as a vindication of her "emotive" vocalising.

R. Kelly's still shit though.

  

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Wordman
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Tue Mar-27-12 11:33 PM

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5. "I call bullshit"
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I was a HUGE fan of her music before I knew anything about her story.



"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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Warren Coolidge
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6. "exactly....she was as influential a female singer back during a "
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time before her real story was known...

people weren't trippin off the behind the scenes stuff like that back then.

  

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CRM
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7. "The deification of her came later though"
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People buy into the tortured soul thing, even when their voice is thin.

Look at Amy...she's a "legend" now...I will say that Billie had her own style, and Amy was simply a more vocally flexible Billie impersonator.

  

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Wordman
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9. "People toss that word "legend" around like its copies of the Metro"
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I'm a big fan of Amy Winehouse, back when I had to get my stewardess friends to buy copies of her album because it wasn't released stateside.
But legend?
Jawn had 2 albums.
Amazing singer, amazing voice, a lost talent...but that's about as far as I'd go.
She definitely had more vocal range than Billie, but contraltos by default have more vocal range.
You're right about Amy - she's playing in a box that Billie built. Same goes for Badu, later Mary J Blige, about 40,000 others.
I'm hard pressed to think of any female singer who could possibly compete with what Billie does. She revolutionized what you could do with a song.


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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CRM
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10. "RE: People toss that word "legend" around like its copies of the Metro"
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Totally agreed. That and the word "genius" have been stripped of their resonance.

  

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Harlepolis
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Wed Mar-28-12 08:12 AM

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8. "Thats Fine By Me,,,,"
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I've been on that "Miss Holiday Can't Sing" train before, but I came around when this hit me in the chest 12 years ago: http://youtu.be/xuzltUeITpw

When Miles Davis said that her singing influenced his playing, I could hear that. Both artists relied more with the subtle "less is more" technique. To me, she's still more soulful, more expressive and more gut wrenching with her lil' ol' one octave than the folks who shouted blood out of their throats.

  

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