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lonesome_d
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"Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?"


          

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my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?
Feb 07th 2011
1
A prince among thieves
Feb 07th 2011
2
The concept is pretty standard imo, it was all in the execution.
Feb 07th 2011
16
      how many serialized albums had you heard before APAT?
Feb 07th 2011
18
masta ace - long hot summer
Feb 07th 2011
3
yes
Feb 07th 2011
4
RE: yes
Feb 07th 2011
10
RE: yes
Feb 07th 2011
13
Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero
May 05th 2011
52
You mean like What's Going On or Here My Dear???
Feb 07th 2011
5
good one (Here my Dear)
Feb 07th 2011
7
what I mean is a concept album where the CONCEPT is good
Feb 07th 2011
8
      i think "life" is a good concept, depending on....
Feb 07th 2011
11
RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?
Feb 07th 2011
6
Masta Ace "Disposable Arts" and Mr. Lif "I, Phantom"
Feb 07th 2011
9
P-Funk's 70s albums.
Feb 07th 2011
12
First thought, but mainly the 4 album Parliament run from 75-78
Feb 07th 2011
22
2MERICA conceptualizes complete concepts constantly
Feb 07th 2011
14
I like King Diamonds ''Abigail''.
Feb 07th 2011
15
Comic Books Unlimited
Feb 07th 2011
17
^^^they don't hear you tho
May 06th 2011
54
How about "Time:Line"?
Feb 07th 2011
19
RE: How about "Time:Line"?
Feb 14th 2011
48
Deltron 3030
Feb 07th 2011
20
^^ Basically. ^^
Mar 08th 2011
51
Definitely.
May 06th 2011
57
I'll add "Saving Seamus Ryan"
Feb 07th 2011
21
Disposable Arts
Feb 07th 2011
23
mf doom - mm..food
Feb 07th 2011
24
Mars Volta
Feb 07th 2011
25
nah...
May 09th 2011
63
black saint and the sinner lady
Feb 07th 2011
26
instrumental music is tricky
Feb 08th 2011
31
cunninlynguists - a piece of strange
Feb 07th 2011
27
good one the concept would make a great movie
Feb 08th 2011
32
i've got one...
Feb 08th 2011
28
Yep, Deltron.
Feb 08th 2011
29
Pretty much anything by Serengeti & Hi-Fidel
Feb 08th 2011
30
i thought the prob with concept albums wasnt the concepts
Feb 08th 2011
33
some of m fave have been mentioned save for one
Feb 08th 2011
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I've been thinking about this since I saw this post yesterday
Feb 08th 2011
35
heh heh
Feb 08th 2011
37
      Well, it may be redundant to state that surrealism is ridiculous.
Feb 08th 2011
42
no one mentioned that ne-yo superhero album yet?
Feb 08th 2011
36
this count?
Feb 08th 2011
38
See # 37
Feb 08th 2011
39
Party Fun Action Committee - Let's Get Serious
Feb 08th 2011
40
I don't know if there would/should be one.
Feb 08th 2011
41
Marvin Gaye takes his dick out....
Feb 08th 2011
43
INFESTICONS/MAJESTICONS
Feb 08th 2011
44
RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?
Feb 09th 2011
45
The Kinks - Lola Vs. Powerman & The Moneygoround
Feb 09th 2011
46
good answer, good answer!
Feb 09th 2011
47
I came to say 'Arthur, or: The Decline & Fall of the British Empire'
Mar 08th 2011
50
Low - Drums And Guns (2007)
Mar 08th 2011
49
wow. this sounds like a really engaging listen.
May 05th 2011
53
Deltron 3030 and Disposable Arts
May 06th 2011
55
Danny!
May 06th 2011
56
Organized Konfusion - "The Equinox"
May 06th 2011
58
RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?
May 09th 2011
59
Tracey Lee "Many Facez"
May 09th 2011
60
Capital D & The Molemen - Writer's Block (The Movie)
May 09th 2011
61
APOS-Cunninlynguists
May 09th 2011
62

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1. "RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?"
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Deltron 3030

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eye.M.woman
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2. "A prince among thieves"
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16. "The concept is pretty standard imo, it was all in the execution."
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You can make a very good concept album without a particularly compelling concept, this is a good example of that.

  

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cheap skeiht killa
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18. "how many serialized albums had you heard before APAT?"
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3. "masta ace - long hot summer"
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the love below is sort of a concept album

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4. "yes"
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to start:

Deltron 3030 was already mentioned

'ziggy stardust'

Bjork's Medulla was a musical concept: "all" of it is vocals (not really, but something like at least 90%)... maybe this should have gone in your novelty song topic with a question mark, ha ha

Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (dystopian future)

Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral (http://www.4degreez.com/nailz/ninterpretations/downspiral.html)

J Dilla - Donuts (the concept is subtle--you have to pay attention to the song titles and sample sources and contrast it all with his life--but present; happy birthday and rest in peace)

  

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10. "RE: yes"
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>to start:
>
>Deltron 3030 was already mentioned

I dunno, man... a rebellion against giant corporations in the future?

Then again, I read comic books, so *shrug*

>'ziggy stardust'

maybe, but the concept is presented rather vaguely throughout, correct? Also, I tend to think of it as a perhaps better version of the same cautionary fable as Tommy - the rise and fall, dangers of excess, etc.

>Bjork's Medulla was a musical concept: "all" of it is vocals
>(not really, but something like at least 90%)... maybe this
>should have gone in your novelty song topic with a question
>mark, ha ha

huh, musical concepts is a better idea than a lame story, which most concept albums seem to entail. But it's a slightly different beast.

>Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (dystopian future)
>
>Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
>(http://www.4degreez.com/nailz/ninterpretations/downspiral.html)

I don't have time to read that second one, but is that a case of superimposing an interpretation onto a completed work? I know that part of the fun of art is varied interpretations by listener, but to me a concept album is in large part defined by the artist's intent.

>J Dilla - Donuts (the concept is subtle--you have to pay
>attention to the song titles and sample sources and contrast
>it all with his life--but present; happy birthday and rest in
>peace)

never considered the idea, probably couldn't ID the samples well enough to connect the dots.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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howisya
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13. "RE: yes"
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>>to start:
>>
>>Deltron 3030 was already mentioned
>
>I dunno, man... a rebellion against giant corporations in the
>future?

and intergalactic rap battles, what's not to love?



>maybe, but the concept is presented rather vaguely throughout,
>correct?

it's a pretty simple concept


>Also, I tend to think of it as a perhaps better
>version of the same cautionary fable as Tommy - the rise and
>fall, dangers of excess, etc.

i don't disagree, rather was just listing some immediate examples


>huh, musical concepts is a better idea than a lame story,
>which most concept albums seem to entail. But it's a slightly
>different beast.

it does open up another can of worms, but i thought they (bjork and everyone involved) did such a great job that the album deserved a mention


>>Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (dystopian future)
>>
>>Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
>>(http://www.4degreez.com/nailz/ninterpretations/downspiral.html)
>
>I don't have time to read that second one

me neither, but i read it when i was a teenager and was wowed


>but is that a case
>of superimposing an interpretation onto a completed work?

the album (TDS) feels thematic, and the idea that there's some kind of concept doesn't feel like a stretch just listening to it, but i remembered that dissertation being pretty compelling in regard to the overall story arc, culminating in suicide (title track) and *then* some kind of after death rumination ("hurt")?! weird but actually makes sense. it could well be the intent, but i don't think it was ever confirmed with the artist.

on the other hand, 'year zero' was a concept album outright and 100% consistent with it IMO


>>J Dilla - Donuts (the concept is subtle--you have to pay
>>attention to the song titles and sample sources and contrast
>>it all with his life--but present; happy birthday and rest
>in
>>peace)
>
>never considered the idea, probably couldn't ID the samples
>well enough to connect the dots.

one of the samples toward the end is "when i die" by motherlode, for example

  

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52. "Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero"
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>Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (dystopian future)

a 2-word description sold it short... the whole album has an elaborate lyrical concept anyone interested can look up on their own, but it's tied musically to a "cyberpunk" sound, i.e., trent's idea of what the musical resistance would sound like in the near future, mostly aggressive, noisy music made on a laptop, and the complete multitracks released for the album for anyone to remix drove home the point.

  

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5. "You mean like What's Going On or Here My Dear???"
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7. "good one (Here my Dear) "
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the backstory and the album itself is awesome

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8. "what I mean is a concept album where the CONCEPT is good"
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not a good concept album

a prime example of a concept album with a lame concept is Tommy. I love the album, I love the movie, but as an adult I've realized repeatedly (especially after seeing the Broadway version) that the story is utter crap.

I think a lot of times people confuse the quality of a concept album's music with the quality of the story the album purports to tell. Most are sheer corn.

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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11. "i think "life" is a good concept, depending on...."
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what kind of life you have. Marvin Gaye was perhaps one of the most tortured and conflicted people to ever make music so to hear his concepts just of his own life were great to me, especially with Here, My Dear and In Our Lifetime/Love Man. But I see your point about actual "concepts".

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6. "RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?"
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Super Chron Flight Brothers- Cape Verde

  

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9. "Masta Ace "Disposable Arts" and Mr. Lif "I, Phantom""
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The latter is a little all over the place, but it works.

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12. "P-Funk's 70s albums."
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i like all of their concepts.

fuck you.

  

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22. "First thought, but mainly the 4 album Parliament run from 75-78"
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Mothership Connection, Clones of Dr. Funkenstein, then the two best concepts, Funkentelechy vs. Placebo Syndrome and Motor Booty Affair.

  

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14. "2MERICA conceptualizes complete concepts constantly"
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I not so humbly submit my entire catalog (so far) to you concept seekers and beat tweekers:

2MERICA :: RECORD PROFITS LP (2005) I swear I was all excited to type this up and the big concept just eluded me. Te title is big oil and most of the tracks are about 9/11 and the subsequent madness in the US. The track listing got all jumbled around because of sample issues so the narrative doesn't flow perfectly but, yeah, fug Disk Cheney and G-War, remember 2004? We called the Record Profits for them, and we achieved some indie irony for ourselves, haha.

2MERICA :: SENSORS&SWITCHES&BUTTONS LP (2006) We take you through the three stages of our exposed sugar triangle: creation, consumption, and control. A fully realized digital vagina for you to jam on, and this one is for the troops.

2MERICA :: SCHERZO ELSKORPION (2009-current) The New elpee-progresso is the soundtrack to the rare 70's flick Trick of the Scorpion. The story revolves around a rock band about to get signed to a major deal when everything goes off the rails. It's the biggest 24 hours of their life - can they make it through alive?

IF YOU PURCHASE A FINE 2MERICA MP3 WITHIN 5 MINUTES YOU RECEIVE FREE JURY!
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15. "I like King Diamonds ''Abigail''."
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Sure, the concept (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_%28album%29) is pure horror-movie cheese but I like that type of stuff so no complaints. Also, he avodied the pitfalls of "Tommy" with short link-tracks and shit like that to make sense of the story-it's just an intro and eight sons that work even outside of the album.

Musically, it's total uncompromising 80's metal cheese with falsetto-vocals, wanky solos and a shitload of riffs so I doubt many OKP's will like it but it has great sentimental value to me and I can still dig it unironically...

  

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17. "Comic Books Unlimited"
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54. "^^^they don't hear you tho"
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That project by Print (Chris Faust) was really dope, good songwriting and the comic references didn't become corny.

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19. "How about "Time:Line"?"
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I can't speak for Nicolay ( maybe he'll come in and enlighten us),

But I always thought that "Time:Line" was telling the story of a person's life from birth to death. AND it had all the good stuff in between, love, pain, loss, happiness, choices, etc.



( and I might be reaching, but I thought "My Story" at the end of Nicolay's (T)Here album was a set-up for "Time:Line"...)


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48. "RE: How about "Time:Line"?"
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>I can't speak for Nicolay ( maybe he'll come in and enlighten
>us),
>
>But I always thought that "Time:Line" was telling the story of
>a person's life from birth to death. AND it had all the good
>stuff in between, love, pain, loss, happiness, choices, etc.
>
>
>
>( and I might be reaching, but I thought "My Story" at the end
>of Nicolay's (T)Here album was a set-up for "Time:Line"...)
>


Totally on point.

Nicolay

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20. "Deltron 3030"
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51. "^^ Basically. ^^"
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57. "Definitely. "
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21. "I'll add "Saving Seamus Ryan""
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People around here tend to hate Esoteric, but I've always been a fan, and I thought this was a very well-executed concept album.

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23. "Disposable Arts"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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24. "mf doom - mm..food"
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promotes healthy eating.

  

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25. "Mars Volta"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Loused_in_the_Comatorium

  

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63. "nah..."
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that story is so fucking convoluted.

  

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26. "black saint and the sinner lady"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_saint_and_the_sinner_lady

  

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31. "instrumental music is tricky"
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because the concept lies entirely in the artist's intent, and a listener without the context of knowing the artist's intent ahead of time is entirely unaware of the album's theme or the story the music tells. I think it's true of jazz - which can certainly convey a mood without context - as well as more subtle works like George Winston's seasonally-inspired solo piano albums.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_saint_and_the_sinner_lady

interestingly, nothing in that entry describes it as a concept album, just one composition written partially as a ballet. (I have the record and have listened to it a dozen or more times but never contemplated the 'story' the music tells.)

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27. "cunninlynguists - a piece of strange"
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really hard to explain but i think its an interesting concept and executed great.

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32. "good one the concept would make a great movie"
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28. "i've got one..."
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29. "Yep, Deltron."
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30. "Pretty much anything by Serengeti & Hi-Fidel "
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33. "i thought the prob with concept albums wasnt the concepts"
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but how well they can keep that concept going for a whole album....

or maybe theyre all just too silly/thin/vague to sustain in the first place, who knows. i dont think ive heard enough. my prob with them is that the concept, um, concept rarely works well with music/albums as it proves too rigid. or if they do stick to it, the music suffers.

prince pauls prince of thieves was a good one.

  

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34. "some of m fave have been mentioned save for one"
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Miami rapper Quest (www.yesiamquest.com) did this love story joint called Distant Travels Into Soul Theory that i thought really nailed it from start to finish. He was still in high school when he dropped it.

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35. "I've been thinking about this since I saw this post yesterday"
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and I have to admit I am stumped.

I was gonna say Tommy, but you're right... It's completely retarded, and I've always known that right from the beginning. In fact, I had to teach myself to see the story as anything other than inane.

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37. "heh heh"
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>and I have to admit I am stumped.

I will say I am surprised that most of the serious contenders (most of which I have not heard, at least not in entirety) come from hip hop. It's probably no mystery, as hip hop lends itself to the narrative particularly well.

Of course the other genre that does the same is the folk ballad, and you could easily add Dust Bowl Ballads to the list. On the other hand, Fairport Convention's 'Babbacombe Lee' is less stellar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbacombe_Lee_%28album%29

>I was gonna say Tommy, but you're right... It's completely
>retarded, and I've always known that right from the beginning.
>In fact, I had to teach myself to see the story as anything
>other than inane.

I know it's a cornerstone of your artistic and aesthetic development, as it is with me, so it hurts to admit it. If yo have any doubts, plug the movie in again - while I know you have utmost respect for the ways it uses images and sound to tell the story, I mean... the story itself is lame enough, but a few things the movie added push it to the simply ridiculous. The fight between the bike gangs, with Tommy on a hang glider? FOH. And that's before we even get to the baked beans.

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42. "Well, it may be redundant to state that surrealism is ridiculous. "
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As is the case with Tommy.

I believe the reason that hiphop lends itself to concept albums is that there are just far more lyrics in hiphop than any genre other than folk. So the canvas is a lot bigger. The downside is that the more words you use, the more dilution you risk. Which is why GZA is so dope.

  

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36. "no one mentioned that ne-yo superhero album yet?"
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38. "this count?"
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39. "See # 37"
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though if memory serves that particular record is not thematically protest music by any stretch.

On the other hand, it is conceptually if not explicitly a journey through folk music ancient and (at that point) brand new, an examination of how a piece of music becomes a folk song.

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40. "Party Fun Action Committee - Let's Get Serious"
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41. "I don't know if there would/should be one. "
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The story has to be somewhat simple to allow ten or more songs to play it out. If the music gets too specific or sequential, it's not a concept album anymore. It's an opera.

I'm no expert, but I'd say that's why they are "concept" albums, and not necessarily plots, because music works better when it can fit different needs. Operatic stuff is much too specific to be enjoyed piecemeal.

  

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43. "Marvin Gaye takes his dick out...."
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44. "INFESTICONS/MAJESTICONS"
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45. "RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?"
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What about Rush'a 2112?

Kinda cheesy I suppose. Kinda reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's 'Harrison Bergeron'. A completely equal society that discourages individual achievement or expression. Perhaps a critique of communism/socialism. That whole Ayn Rand kinda thing.

Noone's mentioned 'The Wall'. I don't really like that album musically but it might be a case of a half-decent concept. Better than 'Tommy' anyways.

  

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46. "The Kinks - Lola Vs. Powerman & The Moneygoround"
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Album critical of the record industry, way back in 1970. Best known for "Lola" (obviously), a song that doesn't fit the concept except as being one of their best known hits. One of my favorite albums just from a song standpoint, but the concept is on point and realistic.

The beginning of the album starts with the protagonist trying to make.
"Denmark Street" is named after a part of London where a lot of industry movers and shakers were around.

On "Get Back In Line", Ray sings humbly as a humble would-be songwriter:
"Now I think of what my mamma told me
She always said that it would never ever work out
But all I want to do is make some money
And bring you home some wine"

"Lola" is followed by "Top Of The Pops", a story-song about the guy who just wrote a hit song and his life changing as the song climbs up the charts. "Lola" by itself is no part of the concept, but I think the Kinks knew it would be a strong enough single that it merited where it ends up in the track listing.

"The Moneygoround" - where did all the money go after the big success?

The next few songs are about the trials and tribulations of touring and parasitic hangers-on. On "Apeman", Ray sings about getting away from the city, being an ape-man is preferable to the rat race. "Powerman" is a showdown between the artist and the industry.
"And he's got my money, 'cause I got my fame"
"I'm not rich and I'm not free but I got my girl and she's got me.
He's got my money and my publishing rights but I got my girl and I'm alright."

"Got To Be Free" ends the album with a similar riff to the first track on the album and pines for "runnin' wild across the big country".

Overall, a pretty good concept, definitely true to life for Davies and many many artists before and after. Decades later, Q-Tip distilled this entire concept to Industry Rule #4080 but the songwriting on "Lola" is great enough to merit listening.

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47. "good answer, good answer!"
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50. "I came to say 'Arthur, or: The Decline & Fall of the British Empire'"
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But I agree with Lola as well.

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49. "Low - Drums And Guns (2007)"
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it's a war protest album including songs written/sung from the perspective of a soldier who's seen battle. they rerecorded a couple songs, but they work with the concept because it's basically about numbing yourself and psyching yourself into committing acts of violence. it's more about the human element of being in combat than it is a political statement about occupying or withdrawing from foreign lands.

i always thought this would be an especially heavy and gloomy album even by low standards, but it has a good variety of tempos (again, by their standards, and they're kinda the posterchildren for the "slowcore" movement) and instrumentation.

  

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53. "wow. this sounds like a really engaging listen."
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will need to check it out. thanks.

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55. "Deltron 3030 and Disposable Arts"
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56. "Danny!"
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Charm by Danny Swain was about life as a rapper trying to get signed, and what happenens to him along the way after he does.

I definitely recommend checking it out if you haven't already.


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58. "Organized Konfusion - "The Equinox""
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I also concur with the earlier referred to joints: Prince Among Theives & Hear My Dear

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59. "RE: Has there ever been a concept album with a *good* concept?"
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Digital Underground's 1990 album "Sex Packets"

The primary concept being a drug/invention called sex packets which created a realistic sexual fantasy/experience at the height of the AIDS/drug epidemic in America.

Related concepts: old school vs. new school, r&b vs hip-hop, sampling vs. live instrumentation.. the emcees all rapped about ideas and characters (mostly comical) as opposed to reppin where they were from or their actual beliefs.




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60. "Tracey Lee "Many Facez" "
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61. "Capital D & The Molemen - Writer's Block (The Movie)"
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super slept on underground joint w/ ridiculous Capital D (of All Natural) storytelling.

just a really good "hood" narrative.

  

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62. "APOS-Cunninlynguists"
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