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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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"A lot of Phantogram and Little Dragon on Big Boi's new LP (link)"
Tue Nov-20-12 05:59 PM by Nick Has a Problem..

  

          

http://m.complex.com/music/2012/11/tracklist-big-boi-vicious-lies-and-dangerous-rumors



Big Boi's sophomore solo album Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors is nearing its release date of December 11, but before that he decideds to drop the official tracklist for the project. Key features on the project are Kid Cudi, T.I., Ludacris and many more. Check out the full list below.

Tracklist: Big Boi "Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors"

1. Ascending

2. The Thickets feat. Sleepy Brown

3. Apple Of My Eye

4. Objectum Sexuality feat. Phantogram

5. In The A feat. T.I. & Ludacris

6. She Hates Me feat. KiD CuDi

7. CPU feat. Phantogram

8. Thom Pettie feat. Little Dragon & Killer Mike

9. Mama Told Me feat. Kelly Rowland

10. Lines feat. A$AP Rocky & Phantogram

11. Shoes For Running feat. B.o.B. & Wavves

12. Raspberries feat. Mouche & Scar

13. Tremendous Damage feat. Bosko

14. Descending feat. Little Dragon

Deluxe

15. Higher Res feat. Jai Paul & Little Dragon

16. Gossip feat. UGK & Big K.R.I.T.

17. She Said OK Big Boi & Theophilus London feat. Tre Luce

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

  

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All those damn features just make me want
Nov 20th 2012
1
only album im buying this year
Nov 20th 2012
2
Yeah... this will be purchased...
Nov 20th 2012
3
Lots of Little Dragon makes me happy.
Nov 20th 2012
4
Killer Mike on a Little Dragon track = sold
Nov 20th 2012
6
damn, can't wait to hear all the LD/Phantogram songs
Nov 20th 2012
5
its so pitchforky.
Nov 20th 2012
7
Yup. But that doesn't mean the music can't be great.
Nov 21st 2012
24
Fuck YES. Gonna try not to listen to anything else before I buy but.
Nov 20th 2012
8
hmmm
Nov 20th 2012
9
wavves???????
Nov 20th 2012
10
Automatic purchase
Nov 20th 2012
11
phantogram is dope... "dont move" is my ish, song shouldve blown up
Nov 21st 2012
12
so Little Dragon could get on the album but not the single? lol
Nov 21st 2012
13
hmmmmm
Nov 21st 2012
14
It's balanced out by claiming Dre has destroyed OutKast.
Nov 21st 2012
15
Game has more features w/people you hear all the time.
Nov 21st 2012
16
I think big boi is more singing features..they basically takin the place
Nov 21st 2012
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I don't have a problem with Game's feature level but I'm sure
Nov 21st 2012
18
pretty much
Nov 21st 2012
19
i can't believe we're even comparing the two..like..REALLY?
Nov 21st 2012
20
I'll play. I think the idea of Game's features is that those artists
Nov 21st 2012
22
      close... you're not quite there tho
Nov 21st 2012
26
           maybe because they have put out albums with minimal features
Nov 21st 2012
27
           RE: close... you're not quite there tho
Nov 21st 2012
28
Your observation isn't wrong, but I'm pretty sure
Nov 21st 2012
23
ok now i'm beyond excited for this...i could've never imagined
Nov 21st 2012
21
i need to hear Higher Res.
Nov 21st 2012
25
Definitely looking forward to this BUT
Nov 21st 2012
29

Dr_Gonzo
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1. "All those damn features just make me want "
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another OutKast album.

I'm buying though.

  

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2. "only album im buying this year"
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3. "Yeah... this will be purchased..."
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Possibly the last album this year that will be bought...

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4. "Lots of Little Dragon makes me happy."
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6. "Killer Mike on a Little Dragon track = sold"
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hopefully these features are reciprocated on the next Phantogram and Little Dragon albums

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5. "damn, can't wait to hear all the LD/Phantogram songs"
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Lines is sooo ill to me

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7. "its so pitchforky."
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24. "Yup. But that doesn't mean the music can't be great."
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"Yes I see all the nummmberrs... I still root for the dreeeamerrs... I thank God for the dreeeamerrs..." - Mos

  

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8. "Fuck YES. Gonna try not to listen to anything else before I buy but."
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It's an empty threat. I need this in my life.

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9. "hmmm"
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ill wait to hear it.. everything ive heard has been tight. kinda disappointed to see B.O.B. on there though. he done some real WACK shit

  

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10. "wavves???????"
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huh?

  

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11. "Automatic purchase "
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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12. "phantogram is dope... "dont move" is my ish, song shouldve blown up"
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13. "so Little Dragon could get on the album but not the single? lol"
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14. "hmmmmm"
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so game's tracklisting being littered w features inspires nearly unanimous bile and spite

here? not so much

interesting...

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15. "It's balanced out by claiming Dre has destroyed OutKast."
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16. "Game has more features w/people you hear all the time."
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Whereas how many features have Phantogram & Little Dragon have?

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17. "I think big boi is more singing features..they basically takin the place"
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18. "I don't have a problem with Game's feature level but I'm sure"
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general reception between the two in here is mostly based on Big being one half of a group with four classic albums & coming off a solo record that was easily one of the best rap albums of 2010 while the other is Game.

  

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19. "pretty much"
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most people just like big boi much better, rightfully so.

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20. "i can't believe we're even comparing the two..like..REALLY?"
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22. "I'll play. I think the idea of Game's features is that those artists"
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Wed Nov-21-12 12:43 PM by bentagain

  

          

are bigger than him

for example

50 was on top, when he put the Game on

so fans were purchasing his album

just as much, and maybe more

to hear the bigger artists like 50, Dre, etc...

and that's seems to be the same thing on his newest album

(I haven't purchased or heard a Game album, just my $.02)

Ye, 2Chainz, Wayne, etc...

all bigger fanbases than Game

whereas Big Boi is putting a cosign on lesser known acts

such as Little Dragon and Phantogram

even if we know who they are, Joe Public isn't as familiar with them as they are with Big Boi from OutKast

does that make sense?

he's going to expose these acts to a wider fanbase

whereas Game is using other artists' with a wider fanbase than his.

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26. "close... you're not quite there tho"
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see, that would make sense if the game complaints were actually referencing WHO was featured.

most of them weren't. they were critical of the features per se, in and of themselves. a lot of "why does he need a guest on every song?", "can't he hold a song down by himself?", etc.

don't see the same thing going on here. or for that matter, w the roots albums which also tend to be pretty feature heavy.

just an observation.

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27. "maybe because they have put out albums with minimal features"
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it seems like every game album (based off of looking at his tracklistings for previous albums)

is heavy on features

and not like the Roots and OutKast features

that were initially crew features

he gets features from bigger acts than him

5 albums in

do you know what a Game solo album sounds like?

probably sounds like alot of other people on it...?

what I was saying

you're comparing already established acts putting folks on

whereas

game was a new act, getting put on by established acts

to date, he's made a career of it

so and so is hot right now, let me get them for this and that song

which leads to the question

how much of his art is really accredited to his ability

which I don't think you'd question in the other examples (the Roots and Big Boi)

I think T.I. and B.o.B. actually have DF ties early in their careers

he's probably doing Luda a favor at this point in his career

but I'm sure you can see how this is different compared to getting

Dre, Ye, Ross, Wayne, etc...on every album

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28. "RE: close... you're not quite there tho"
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Also,

I think a lot of us are expecting Big Boi to pull it all together with the Big Boi/Outkast sound somehow. He has set the bar that we feel any guests will only enhance what is ultimately HIS music.

The Game is known for sounding like his guests which actually takes away from him as an artist.

But I get what you are saying. They are basically doing similar things.. Collaborating with several hot guests. It's just that Game is collaborating with his peers in the rap game who are hot and have their own thing going on. Big Boi is collaborating with a lot of artists who are hot to the "Pitchfork" crowd. The effects are similar, but the demographics are different.

It remains to be heard which is more effective or not, but I think it's safe to say that around these parts, Big Boi has the better shot.

  

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23. "Your observation isn't wrong, but I'm pretty sure"
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you understand the difference as well.

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21. "ok now i'm beyond excited for this...i could've never imagined"
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all these little dragon & phantogram faetures wow..

  

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25. "i need to hear Higher Res."
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29. "Definitely looking forward to this BUT"
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does every album nowadays need a damn deluxe edition?? I just wanna buy the disc but then I'll miss out on iTunes only tracks, ugh.

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