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2757539, A lot of Phantogram and Little Dragon on Big Boi's new LP (link) Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Nov-20-12 05:58 PM
http://m.complex.com/music/2012/11/tracklist-big-boi-vicious-lies-and-dangerous-rumors
Big Boi's sophomore solo album Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors is nearing its release date of December 11, but before that he decideds to drop the official tracklist for the project. Key features on the project are Kid Cudi, T.I., Ludacris and many more. Check out the full list below.
Tracklist: Big Boi "Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors"
1. Ascending
2. The Thickets feat. Sleepy Brown
3. Apple Of My Eye
4. Objectum Sexuality feat. Phantogram
5. In The A feat. T.I. & Ludacris
6. She Hates Me feat. KiD CuDi
7. CPU feat. Phantogram
8. Thom Pettie feat. Little Dragon & Killer Mike
9. Mama Told Me feat. Kelly Rowland
10. Lines feat. A$AP Rocky & Phantogram
11. Shoes For Running feat. B.o.B. & Wavves
12. Raspberries feat. Mouche & Scar
13. Tremendous Damage feat. Bosko
14. Descending feat. Little Dragon
Deluxe
15. Higher Res feat. Jai Paul & Little Dragon
16. Gossip feat. UGK & Big K.R.I.T.
17. She Said OK Big Boi & Theophilus London feat. Tre Luce
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2757541, All those damn features just make me want Posted by Dr_Gonzo, Tue Nov-20-12 06:14 PM
another OutKast album.
I'm buying though.
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2757544, only album im buying this year Posted by CherNic, Tue Nov-20-12 06:36 PM
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2757557, Yeah... this will be purchased... Posted by Crash85, Tue Nov-20-12 07:03 PM
Possibly the last album this year that will be bought...
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2757558, Lots of Little Dragon makes me happy. Posted by Anfernee, Tue Nov-20-12 07:03 PM
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2757562, Killer Mike on a Little Dragon track = sold Posted by bentagain, Tue Nov-20-12 07:14 PM
hopefully these features are reciprocated on the next Phantogram and Little Dragon albums
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2757561, damn, can't wait to hear all the LD/Phantogram songs Posted by amplifya7, Tue Nov-20-12 07:12 PM
Lines is sooo ill to me
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2757563, its so pitchforky. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-20-12 07:15 PM
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2757801, Yup. But that doesn't mean the music can't be great. Posted by blinded by the lights, Wed Nov-21-12 12:42 PM
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2757565, Fuck YES. Gonna try not to listen to anything else before I buy but. Posted by phemom, Tue Nov-20-12 07:35 PM
It's an empty threat. I need this in my life.
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2757620, hmmm Posted by quatto, Tue Nov-20-12 09:47 PM
ill wait to hear it.. everything ive heard has been tight. kinda disappointed to see B.O.B. on there though. he done some real WACK shit
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2757621, wavves??????? Posted by Ghetto Black, Tue Nov-20-12 09:52 PM
huh?
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2757635, Automatic purchase Posted by makaveli, Tue Nov-20-12 10:30 PM
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2757708, phantogram is dope... "dont move" is my ish, song shouldve blown up Posted by rjc27, Wed Nov-21-12 07:50 AM
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2757714, so Little Dragon could get on the album but not the single? lol Posted by Menphyel7, Wed Nov-21-12 08:13 AM
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2757757, hmmmmm Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Nov-21-12 10:58 AM
so game's tracklisting being littered w features inspires nearly unanimous bile and spite
here? not so much
interesting...
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2757760, It's balanced out by claiming Dre has destroyed OutKast. Posted by JFrost1117, Wed Nov-21-12 11:02 AM
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2757781, Game has more features w/people you hear all the time. Posted by phemom, Wed Nov-21-12 12:03 PM
Whereas how many features have Phantogram & Little Dragon have?
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2757783, I think big boi is more singing features..they basically takin the place Posted by Menphyel7, Wed Nov-21-12 12:14 PM
of sleepy brown
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2757785, I don't have a problem with Game's feature level but I'm sure Posted by Bombastic, Wed Nov-21-12 12:19 PM
general reception between the two in here is mostly based on Big being one half of a group with four classic albums & coming off a solo record that was easily one of the best rap albums of 2010 while the other is Game.
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2757792, pretty much Posted by makaveli, Wed Nov-21-12 12:31 PM
most people just like big boi much better, rightfully so.
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2757793, i can't believe we're even comparing the two..like..REALLY? Posted by Hellyeah, Wed Nov-21-12 12:33 PM
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2757799, I'll play. I think the idea of Game's features is that those artists Posted by bentagain, Wed Nov-21-12 12:41 PM
are bigger than him
for example
50 was on top, when he put the Game on
so fans were purchasing his album
just as much, and maybe more
to hear the bigger artists like 50, Dre, etc...
and that's seems to be the same thing on his newest album
(I haven't purchased or heard a Game album, just my $.02)
Ye, 2Chainz, Wayne, etc...
all bigger fanbases than Game
whereas Big Boi is putting a cosign on lesser known acts
such as Little Dragon and Phantogram
even if we know who they are, Joe Public isn't as familiar with them as they are with Big Boi from OutKast
does that make sense?
he's going to expose these acts to a wider fanbase
whereas Game is using other artists' with a wider fanbase than his.
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2757894, close... you're not quite there tho Posted by dula dibiasi, Wed Nov-21-12 05:56 PM
see, that would make sense if the game complaints were actually referencing WHO was featured.
most of them weren't. they were critical of the features per se, in and of themselves. a lot of "why does he need a guest on every song?", "can't he hold a song down by himself?", etc.
don't see the same thing going on here. or for that matter, w the roots albums which also tend to be pretty feature heavy.
just an observation.
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2757906, maybe because they have put out albums with minimal features Posted by bentagain, Wed Nov-21-12 07:20 PM
it seems like every game album (based off of looking at his tracklistings for previous albums)
is heavy on features
and not like the Roots and OutKast features
that were initially crew features
he gets features from bigger acts than him
5 albums in
do you know what a Game solo album sounds like?
probably sounds like alot of other people on it...?
what I was saying
you're comparing already established acts putting folks on
whereas
game was a new act, getting put on by established acts
to date, he's made a career of it
so and so is hot right now, let me get them for this and that song
which leads to the question
how much of his art is really accredited to his ability
which I don't think you'd question in the other examples (the Roots and Big Boi)
I think T.I. and B.o.B. actually have DF ties early in their careers
he's probably doing Luda a favor at this point in his career
but I'm sure you can see how this is different compared to getting
Dre, Ye, Ross, Wayne, etc...on every album
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2757916, RE: close... you're not quite there tho Posted by Original Juice, Wed Nov-21-12 07:52 PM
Also,
I think a lot of us are expecting Big Boi to pull it all together with the Big Boi/Outkast sound somehow. He has set the bar that we feel any guests will only enhance what is ultimately HIS music.
The Game is known for sounding like his guests which actually takes away from him as an artist.
But I get what you are saying. They are basically doing similar things.. Collaborating with several hot guests. It's just that Game is collaborating with his peers in the rap game who are hot and have their own thing going on. Big Boi is collaborating with a lot of artists who are hot to the "Pitchfork" crowd. The effects are similar, but the demographics are different.
It remains to be heard which is more effective or not, but I think it's safe to say that around these parts, Big Boi has the better shot.
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2757800, Your observation isn't wrong, but I'm pretty sure Posted by blinded by the lights, Wed Nov-21-12 12:41 PM
you understand the difference as well.
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2757795, ok now i'm beyond excited for this...i could've never imagined Posted by Hellyeah, Wed Nov-21-12 12:34 PM
all these little dragon & phantogram faetures wow..
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2757826, i need to hear Higher Res. Posted by FortifiedLive, Wed Nov-21-12 01:56 PM
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2757926, Definitely looking forward to this BUT Posted by topaz, Wed Nov-21-12 08:46 PM
does every album nowadays need a damn deluxe edition?? I just wanna buy the disc but then I'll miss out on iTunes only tracks, ugh.
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