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"Why is Beck giving tribute to Sly Stone for the R&RHallofFame?"


  

          

Aside from Loser (20+yrs ago) what else is he known for?

  

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Cause Beck is that Dude
Nov 09th 2025
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I call bs
Nov 10th 2025
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Beck - Stratosphere is my shit
Nov 09th 2025
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Who do YOU propose?
Nov 10th 2025
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Thank you for asking…
Nov 15th 2025
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      Nice list..
Nov 17th 2025
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           Who didn’t Sly influence???
Nov 18th 2025
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so you don’t know the history of Sly Stone
Nov 10th 2025
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If you think this is about looks, you way off point
Nov 15th 2025
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What's your favorite Sly Stone song?
Nov 10th 2025
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Raphael Saadiq would be the obvious choice to me.
Nov 12th 2025
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      Isn’t he on tour?
Nov 12th 2025
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      Saadiq, Clinton, Kravitz, Keidas, ....
Nov 12th 2025
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      That is a bit nutty
Nov 15th 2025
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      RE: Raphael Saadiq would be the obvious choice to me.
Nov 15th 2025
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RE: Why is Beck giving tribute to Sly Stone for the R&RHallofFame?
Nov 12th 2025
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They both had impact
Nov 15th 2025
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bro lmao radiohead has a whole catalog
Nov 16th 2025
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      Exactly
Nov 18th 2025
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      I thought that post was sarcasm
Nov 18th 2025
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Wait why does Flea get a pass?
Nov 13th 2025
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If you have to ask then please sit yourself out of this one
Nov 13th 2025
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Cool retort
Nov 13th 2025
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      its the only one your question deserves
Nov 13th 2025
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           And easier, than whatever answer I can imagine you'd trip over..
Nov 13th 2025
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                RE: And easier, than whatever answer I can imagine you'd trip over..
Nov 24th 2025
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                     RE: And easier, than whatever answer I can imagine you'd trip over..
Nov 24th 2025
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                          rif
Nov 24th 2025
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Cause he funky af
Nov 15th 2025
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      lol.. so you just posting to post
Nov 15th 2025
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           I like Flea
Nov 18th 2025
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                lmao.. you like Flea and 5 other people in here like Beck
Nov 18th 2025
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                     However, I aint stuck on Flea or vouching
Nov 20th 2025
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                          ehh, you were kinda vouching for Flea
Nov 20th 2025
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                               Not really but I dont mind that he was there.
Nov 24th 2025
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Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person...
Nov 15th 2025
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Points noted.
Nov 18th 2025
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Damn, I could've gone my whole life without knowing none of that.
Nov 18th 2025
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AshleySaySo
Nov 20th 2025
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RE: Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person...
Nov 20th 2025
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RE: Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person..
Nov 24th 2025
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RE: Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person...
Nov 22nd 2025
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On another note, it was cool to see Stevie, Leon Thomas, Jen Hudson,
Nov 15th 2025
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Jesus
Nov 20th 2025
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LOL @ Flea being turned ALLLLL the way up to 11
Nov 20th 2025
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Flea had ONE FUCKING LINE to sing and couldn't learn it.
Nov 22nd 2025
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      how does anyone watch that and get upset with Beck?
Nov 22nd 2025
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           Cause Flea is being Flea
Nov 24th 2025
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Now that you've seen the video - is it still an abortion??????
Nov 23rd 2025
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Abortion is a bit harsh, how about…
Nov 26th 2025
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1. "Cause Beck is that Dude"
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He was probably at the height of his fame and influence in 96 when "Odelay" dropped, but he's been steady putting out albums this whole time, won a handful of Grammys and has generally been well respected this whole time

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3. "I call bs"
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Even if he has been dropping songs a day for the last 2 decades, there’s nothing about him that translates ‘oh yeah, lets get Beck to honor Sly Stone!’ Also from what I read, he’s not a behind the scenes producer to anyone and aside from Loser there’s nothing that stands out about his records.

But there seems to be a need to paint a picture of his connection to Black artist, the greats at that. From handing Prince his last award to this tribute to Sly, not to mention someone on twitter was trying to connect a working relationship with D’Angelo via photographs, no music.

That shit is weird and unsettling.

  

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2. "Beck - Stratosphere is my shit"
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I’m not all the way up on his catalogue, but he’s made some stuff that I like.

https://youtu.be/aFknA30AbFM?si=TVdvfnY-xYBAJB9f

  

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4. "Who do YOU propose?"
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Beck put out two hugely popular and critically lauded albums in the last 7 years. Colors and Hyperspace were very popular, and very good.

Also Midnite Vultures from 1999 is *amazing.*

And 2002 Sea Change is that break up album a lot of people go to.

He's worked with a lot of very influential folks too:
The Dust Brothers
Emmylou Harris
Air
Pink
Charlotte Gainsbourg
Thurston Moore
The Lonely Island
Gorillaz
Phoenix
St Vincent
Danger Mouse
Pharrell Williams

Heck, he covered INXS record 'Kick' in a very fun way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_LowdZvozw

Played at Paisley Park too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xCIt40BUas&list=RD-xCIt40BUas

Who would be better?

And you might have a trat in front of you - listening to a string of really good records by Beck.

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16. "Thank you for asking…"
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Sat Nov-15-25 09:18 AM by 3CardMolly

  

          

Freddie Stone
Raphael Saddiq
MonoNeon
Jesse Johnson
Nile Rodgers
Van Hunt
Gary Clark Jr.
India Irie
Lenny Kravitz
Candy Dulfur
Steve Lacy
One or two guitarist from Snarky Puppy

  

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26. "Nice list.."
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>Freddie Stone
>Raphael Saddiq
>MonoNeon
>Jesse Johnson
>Nile Rodgers
>Van Hunt
>Gary Clark Jr.
>India Irie
>Lenny Kravitz
>Candy Dulfur
>Steve Lacy
>One or two guitarist from Snarky Puppy
>

Now which one of those was gonna play harmonica for "Higher"?

Ok, Gary Clark Jr? (I'll save you the googling) So instead of using the guy that has referenced Sly as an influence over a 30+yr career of fairly experimental, definitely genre-bending creative output/has sampled, recorded, regularly covered Sly songs throughout/spent entire podcast episodes talking influence of & paying homage to him...plus happens to already live in LA where the tribute was done------fly out the guy that lives in Texas (and wasn't even alive when Sly was putting out records..) instead?

  

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27. "Who didn’t Sly influence???"
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There’s nothing funk about Beck. He could be wearing all of Funkadelic outfits unwashed from 76 live show in Cali and still wouldn’t resonate funk.

Ya’ll trying too hard for a dude mainly known for one damn song in the last 30yrs.

  

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5. "so you don’t know the history of Sly Stone"
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that man didn’t give a shit bout what a musician looked like.

and Gamma Ray is my shit.

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17. "If you think this is about looks, you way off point"
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Its about the music. I replied to ‘handle’ with my list.

  

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6. "What's your favorite Sly Stone song?"
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Who do you think should have done the tribute?

I'm trying to see something real quick.

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7. "Raphael Saadiq would be the obvious choice to me."
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He was surprisingly absent from the Sly Lives! documentary by Questlove as well.. not sure if that was by choice or not, though.

  

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8. "Isn’t he on tour? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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10. "Saadiq, Clinton, Kravitz, Keidas, ...."
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>He was surprisingly absent from the Sly Lives! documentary by
>Questlove as well.. not sure if that was by choice or not,
>though.

  

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19. "That is a bit nutty"
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I can’t any of them saying nah. Now I’m wondering…

  

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18. "RE: Raphael Saadiq would be the obvious choice to me."
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Had to put him at the top of my list.

  

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9. "RE: Why is Beck giving tribute to Sly Stone for the R&RHallofFame?"
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What did the White Stripes do besides that Seven Nation Army song 20+ years ago?


What did Radiohead do besides that Creep song 20+ years ago?



There is this Wikipedia that can help out time to time.

  

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20. "They both had impact"
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Especially RadioHead.

  

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25. "bro lmao radiohead has a whole catalog"
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28. "Exactly"
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He throwing whatever against the wall to make Beck seem like more than a brief uneventful 90’s fever dream.

  

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33. "I thought that post was sarcasm"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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11. "Wait why does Flea get a pass?"
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Because he played slap bass?

  

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12. "If you have to ask then please sit yourself out of this one"
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>Because he played slap bass?

  

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13. "Cool retort"
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And you got to avoid answering the question too (assuming you're aligned with the original poster?)

  

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14. "its the only one your question deserves"
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>And you got to avoid answering the question too (assuming
>you're aligned with the original poster?)

  

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15. "And easier, than whatever answer I can imagine you'd trip over.."
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..yourself giving

  

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47. "RE: And easier, than whatever answer I can imagine you'd trip over.."
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>..yourself giving


Ok geezus. You dont know that Peppers whole get down was they were influenced by Jimi, George, and Sly? And implemented that influence into their music and attitude. Nevermind the audience of meatheads that came but the band itself at heart. Sop yes it makes sense that Keidas as a mai spokesman and yes even Flea be one to present for Sly if they aren't going to use the other black artists proposed posted earlier. More than Beck, yes.

  

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48. "RE: And easier, than whatever answer I can imagine you'd trip over.."
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>>..yourself giving
>
>
>Ok geezus. You dont know that Peppers whole get down was they
>were influenced by Jimi, George, and Sly?

Lulz, "whole get down.." the only thing George about their early albums is he produced one of them--that shit's all Talking Heads/Gang of Four, sung by someone doing an Iggy Pop imitation (and if he rapped like Melle Mel)

I don't get why one guy in that^ band also idolizing Larry Graham auto-shoes them in as the more deserving Sly tributary.. (than the multi-instrumentalist/singer/songwriter/record producer guy..your dissent here makes even less since you're a Prince fan..)



  

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49. "rif"
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>>>..yourself giving
>>
>>
>>Ok geezus. You dont know that Peppers whole get down was
>they
>>were influenced by Jimi, George, and Sly?
>
>Lulz, "whole get down.." the only thing George about their
>early albums is he produced one of them--that shit's all
>Talking Heads/Gang of Four, sung by someone doing an Iggy Pop
>imitation (and if he rapped like Melle Mel)
>
>I don't get why one guy in that^ band also idolizing Larry
>Graham auto-shoes them in as the more deserving Sly
>tributary.. (than the
>multi-instrumentalist/singer/songwriter/record producer
>guy..your dissent here makes even less since you're a Prince
>fan..)
>
>
>
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21. "Cause he funky af"
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Definitely no Victor Wooten, and MonoNeon would’ve been a great choice as well but Flea is still solid and a funkman.

  

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24. "lol.. so you just posting to post"
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29. "I like Flea"
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I like his style of playing and his crackish ways. He aint no MonoNeon (much more preferred) but he’s fun, is part of a legendary band and plays funk-styled bass.

Whats your hangup?

  

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32. "lmao.. you like Flea and 5 other people in here like Beck"
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what is your hangup?

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34. "However, I aint stuck on Flea or vouching "
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For him as a great choice. Once again, I would’ve chose Mono or Pino for sure. But Flea’s aiight.

  

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36. "ehh, you were kinda vouching for Flea"
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and that’s fine.

I don’t think anyone in here was demanding Beck play beforehand but I wasn’t offended or thrown off by it.



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45. "Not really but I dont mind that he was there."
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Also dont mind that ‘I’mma dog/mutt’ dude was there either, although Gary Clark Jr. I think would’ve been a better choice.

  

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22. "Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person..."
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but Sly, being one of my favorite MUSICIANS ever (don't confuse that with favorite people) was one of the biggest c00ns to ever grace the music industry, rivaled only by maybe Jackie Wilson who did a tribute album to blackface performer Al Jolson.
I was so disappointed when I saw Sly arguing with Muhammad Ali on some "what about black on black crime" shit on TV, so I wasn't surprised when reading his memoir and finding that he was damn near the anti-black power advocate of his time.
With all that said, I did like how he didn't care anything about a person's race of sex as far as inclusion in his band. It was quite beautiful reading the story of him recruiting Cynthia for the band.
As for Beck, I think the Midnite Vultures album alone would've caused Sly himself to handpick Beck for a tribute to him. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Sly handpicked all white people just to be contrarian and piss Black ppl off. It's why I'm not a huge fan of him as a person. He's an incredibly creative musician tho.

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30. "Points noted."
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I think I’ll check out band of vultures and see what I may have been missing.

On another note, Sly was def an asshole. He truly fucked himself the most and perhaps that can be a little solace considering his halfassness w/Black folks.


  

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31. "Damn, I could've gone my whole life without knowing none of that."
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sad...

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35. "AshleySaySo"
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Put all his business out. Sly love fucking with people’s heads. White brown eyed brunette girl he was dating in late h.s. had stars in her eyes for their future kids and dashed all that by telling her he wanted a blonde blue eye white girl to have his kids, and 9x’s outta 10 it was probably after fucking.

  

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37. "RE: Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person..."
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yup.. its the “Rock & Roll HOF” so of course they will add a white face or 2.

I remember seeing a tribute on BET for Charlie Wilson and Justin Timberlake was up there faking the funk. I didn’t like it but Charlie looked happy.

Its also a bridge to the younger generation.

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3CardMolly
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44. "RE: Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person.."
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Most honored artist dont state how they feel when being honored if nor Prince and Marlon Brando. Even Denzel had to play it off.

  

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42. "RE: Generally, I would say they just gotta include a white person..."
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>but Sly, being one of my favorite MUSICIANS ever (don't
>confuse that with favorite people) was one of the biggest
>c00ns to ever grace the music industry, rivaled only by maybe
>Jackie Wilson who did a tribute album to blackface performer
>Al Jolson.
>I was so disappointed when I saw Sly arguing with Muhammad Ali
>on some "what about black on black crime" shit on TV, so I
>wasn't surprised when reading his memoir and finding that he
>was damn near the anti-black power advocate of his time.
>With all that said, I did like how he didn't care anything
>about a person's race of sex as far as inclusion in his band.
>It was quite beautiful reading the story of him recruiting
>Cynthia for the band.
>As for Beck, I think the Midnite Vultures album alone would've
>caused Sly himself to handpick Beck for a tribute to him. Hell
>I wouldn't be surprised if Sly handpicked all white people
>just to be contrarian and piss Black ppl off. It's why I'm not
>a huge fan of him as a person. He's an incredibly creative
>musician tho.

Wait he got flack for the kumbaya shit yes and on that cavet show with Ali he was a bit drugged out and worrying about changing the color of the flag while Ali clowned him about worrying about that nonsense than more serious issues of the day but how was that coonin? He stated he was Anti black stance in his memoir? Explain

  

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23. "On another note, it was cool to see Stevie, Leon Thomas, Jen Hudson,"
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Maxwell, etc doing a tribute.

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38. "Jesus"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gakFq11BfR4

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39. "LOL @ Flea being turned ALLLLL the way up to 11"
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dude was wyling out like this was the "Give It Away Now" video

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

  

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40. "Flea had ONE FUCKING LINE to sing and couldn't learn it."
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SMH. Fucking disgraceful. I remember when niggas FLAMED Lupe Fiasco for not learning every word of a Tribe Called Quest song. I mean FLAMED him. Standards really do be different for white folks.

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41. "how does anyone watch that and get upset with Beck? "
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Flea was mad disrespectful

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46. "Cause Flea is being Flea"
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Coked out, of course
Over rocked out, of course
Off cue, no surprises there either
Laughing stock, yep
Could they have picked better, of course.


  

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43. "Now that you've seen the video - is it still an abortion??????"
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50. "Abortion is a bit harsh, how about…"
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A taking of a seat.

  

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