He may not even be eligible to run and I think he can "win" on write-ins. Looks like Biden one mo' gin.

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I genuinely don't know and am asking.

Not defending that piece of shit at all, but I figure a conviction would disqualify him, but not necessarily the arrest.

I would imagine that other politicians that ended up as president have an arrest on their jacket....i.e sit ins, protests, etc

... in 1920.

I don't think even a conviction would stop him from running. It would just make a deeply weird constitutional crisis if he won, and probably result in a bunch of lawsuits related to his ability to campaign?

Maybe they made a law after Debs. But people have run pretty big campaigns from prison before.

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I assume this is what the OP was talking about.

There was a big op-ed coauthored by Michael Luttig and Laurence Tribe a few weeks ago that outlined the argument. Luttig is the retired super-right-wing judge who's been increasingly yelling at his party over their Trump-related hypocrisy. This is totally unrelated to convictions -- just plain language in the 14th amendment that anyone who encourages insurrection can't go on state ballots for the US presidency. Civil war stuff at the time, but it's still in force and doesn't require a legal finding.

While I have no doubt that Tribe and Luttig are right on the legal merits, the idea of barring him from the ballots over this still seems far fetched to me. It would require state-level officials to declare his ineligibility without any sort of official legal process (there would be appeals, but they would likely just complicate things further). This seems like an invitation for people to view it as political, which is exactly what Trump would claim.

GOP legal scholars are cosigning this as you've stated. It's being compared to running for president and not yet being at least 35 years of age. Instant disqualification.

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If a state AG decides early enough that Trump is ineligible for the ballot, then the Trump campaign would sue, and that could presumably go to the supreme court within weeks.

I literally have no idea how this supreme court would handle the matter. Legal merits aside, it seems like even the Trump appointees are getting tired of the stink, so I guess disqualification is more likely than not. But one never knows with these creeps. On the face of it, I can imagine someone claiming the insurrection of Jan 6 (if they even call it that) is very different from the confederacy.

And as someone who politically came of age in the Bush/Gore race, I would personally rather these decisions never go to the courts again. But I don't get to decide who does what...

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It's not about him gaining votes when they're making it harder for others to get out and vote. Since the last election, I'm guessing it's 10x's harder to cast ballots by mail in Red States.

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Biden got bailed out at damn near the last second by voters in Detroit, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Atlanta. The only reason that happened was Trump told his supporters to not vote early.

If Trump is free and runs he'll win.

Y'all are under estimating how most Americans, people of color, and minorities feel about a lot of issues Democrats force onto them... None of y'all studied election exit polls either but these are stories for another time.

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What about NV and AZ ?

Trump is not going to flip enough minorities' to make up for losing white women in the suburbs.

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8 years of a horrific person and leader acting a fool. He got his ass whupped in 2020. Unless he figures out a way to cheat and steal a bunch of swing states, I can’t see him winning. Back in 2016 there were a lot of dumb people who didn’t realize just how horrible he would be.

there used to be a belief that the “old racist” generation would eventually die off but instead we’re seeing an entirely new and more lethal group of racists that weren’t even old enough to vote in 2016

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I think that group goes even harder for him, the worse he acts. But that’s not enough to win. His base went hard as hell for him in 2020, and he still lost easily.

He needed a large amount of the more “reasonable” people to sit out in 2016 because they didn’t like Hilary. I would hope that wouldn’t happen again. It didn’t in 2020. I think a lot of people who dropped the ball in 2016 not realizing just how horrific he would be, and they turned out in 2020.

They will keep gerrymandering and attempting to suppress the vote and cheat their asses off, because it’s their only chance. IMO.

power of the presidency and being the incumbent at his disposal is a big sign of how tough will be for him in 2024. That said, we gotta be diligent because he and the GOP will be making these indictment and trials the biggest spin ever trying to amp up their base and steal moderates, gaslighting folks into thinking Biden is “weaponizing the Justice Department”…


>He needed a large amount of the more “reasonable” people
>to sit out in 2016 because they didn’t like Hilary. I
>would hope that wouldn’t happen again. It didn’t in
>2020. I think a lot of people who dropped the ball in 2016
>not realizing just how horrific he would be, and they turned
>out in 2020.

if its a closer race than 2020...they could tip the scale to trump.

He recently made a statement warning about that and saying we all need to support Biden in this one.

im still worried about a two pronged 'attack' tho.

green party shaving off just enough lefties and no labels shaving off just enough moderates to squeeze biden out in some of those important electoral college states.

then we got idiots like kyrsten sinema prolly running for re-election in az as an independent againt the dem nominee and possibly fucking up any chance of holding the senate.

smh…

Trump's favorability rating is higher than the other Republicans... but so's his unfavorability. There will be a swath of Republicans, like last time, who'd rather vote Libertarian or for some other candidate than Trump (Jo Jorgensen voters almost certainly helped hand Arizona to Biden, for instance).

Say if RFK Jr. decides to stop this silly idea of running for the Democratic ticket and chooses instead to go 3rd party-- Trump's chances would be over before they begun.

There also just doesn't seem to be a very favorable 3rd party candidate on the liberal side. There's no super-charismatic Green Party candidate poised to light the world on fire in the next calendar year, for instance. Most voters too liberal to stomach voting for Biden again are unlikely to vote for a Libertarian candidate likely to align themselves with small-government, no-regulation type policies that would appeal far more to Trump voters at the end of the day.

I think there are a lot more dangerous pitfalls for the Republicans *right today* than there are for Democrats-- assuming that Trump's legal troubles continue to be very public and don't change in some seismic way.

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>there used to be a belief that the “old racist”
>generation would eventually die off but instead we’re seeing
>an entirely new and more lethal group of racists that
>weren’t even old enough to vote in 2016

... this generation is objectively more liberal/progressive than its predecessors, so even taking the extreme right wing youth into consideration, we're in decent shape with this new crop of voters unless, as DJR has been saying, gerrymandering and cheating goes unchecked.

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>... this generation is objectively more liberal/progressive
>than its predecessors, so even taking the extreme right wing
>youth into consideration, we're in decent shape with this new
>crop of voters unless, as DJR has been saying, gerrymandering
>and cheating goes unchecked.

just people YOUR family or friend group in YOUR area is "objectively more liberal/progressive" doesn't mean there aren't other parts of the country were people think exactly the opposite and are being bred in droves

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>just people YOUR family or friend group in YOUR area is
>"objectively more liberal/progressive" doesn't mean there
>aren't other parts of the country were people think exactly
>the opposite and are being bred in droves

... as opposed to saying "my family and friends" and "subjectively" ... because I meant "this generation" (on the macro level) and "objectively," not "my friends and family" and "subjectively."

I also never said that there weren't parts of the country that bred different perspectives. In fact, I referenced that fact in the post that you responded to.

It's like you responded in the wrong place or something lol.

Anyway, here's where my point derives from.


https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/01/17/generation-z-looks-a-lot-like-millennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/

"Generation Z – diverse and on track to be the most well-educated generation yet – is moving toward adulthood with a liberal set of attitudes and an openness to emerging social trends.

On a range of issues, from Donald Trump’s presidency to the role of government to racial equality and climate change, the views of Gen Z – those ages 13 to 21 in 2018 – mirror those of Millennials."


https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/poll-gen-x-gen-z-take-different-political-paths-rcna66264


https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-04-03/genz-young-voters-polarization-republicans-politics

"They share millennials’ progressive ideas on social issues, but are more likely to support radical policies, such as reparations for descendants of enslaved people. They’re more likely to believe the government should do more to help people. They believe in advocating for the Other, except when the Other is a bully."

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There’s a reason for that.

policies that negatively impact future generations long after they are gone...

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it bothered me the last election our top choices on both sides were 70+y/o old white people in most industries folks are trying to retire by 70 but these are the people we have running the country

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thats the legal working age.

america was founded on the bedrock principle of 'no taxation without representation'.

but somehow its illegal for citizens aged 14-17 to vote on the representatives who decide what to do with the taxes those young voters are required to pay.

at school for the Bush/Dukakis presidential race. And all the 4th and 5th grade classes at school talked about the issues and the platforms of both candidates, before an election to see who would have “won” our school. And we were actually knowledgable about the issues for our age. By 1992 I was all in on that Clinton/Bush election at 13. High school kids by age 14 should absolutely be eligible to vote and have representation.

I remember it vividly. I have to think it informed my interest in politics as my life went on, getting that deep into the weeds that early in my life. I was like 7 or 8.

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until he loses again I have a fear of him winning

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>until he loses again I have a fear of him winning
>

I hear you. As we’ve seen numerous times, he and they will always go even lower than you can fathom, so I trust nothing.

I can’t see him winning legitimately though. While he has a cult behind him, he is absolutely reviled by more than half of the country and those people aren’t going to sit out.

To make it easier and because I’m beyond sick of him - I wish his old, fat ass would just keel over and die already.

but I work with a few people who I know for a fact will vote for him because…

“they white af and love their country or military vets”

which is some sad shit

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there are lots of white ppl around.

...the professional managerial class has done an incredible job at normalizing the duopoly and promoting the narrative that voting for actual issues is 'hurting democracy'

I'm not saying folks need to support West or a 3rd party candidate....but calling out his integrity while defending Biden and the DNC???

saying that Cornel West an opp or grifter and basically saying that voters need to forgo their values and be 'brought to heel' and vote for Biden??!!!


If this is 'the most important election of our lifetime'™ than maybe Democrats should run a better candidate....maybe host debates and a primary so we can have actual conversations about the issues that are threatening longterm survival on this planet...instead we're being lectured about how great the economy is doing with 'Bidenomics'

Biden is currently polling below Trump.

yes, we can place Trump's popularity on racism and bigotry, that absolutely plays a big part, but that's not the full story...but it seems clear that the MSM curated narrative doesn't want us having the larger discussion, because than we'd have to discuss the way dark money fuels actual policy and how both parties are essentially fighting for the same end goals behind closed doors...but issues that get ignored will never get fixed.

the hubris of democrats with this election is giving the same energy of Hillary in '16

if it wasn't for Covid, Trump would have likely won in 2020.
and Biden showed that his response to the pandemic is just as bad, if not worse.

Fuck Trump all day everyday....fuck Biden too.

If this election is so important, Biden has no place running.
but democrats don't ever need to take accountability or reflect....just blame West, Jill Stein, Bernie, Nader, or whoever else is playing the role of 'spoiler'....rinse, wash, repeat....until it all collapses.

aint winning shit

we are voting for the person who has the best chance to win

this place called out Biden BUT voting 3rd party wasn’t a path to victory

Biden has the best chance, stop acting like Cornell has a shot.

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is the goal just about beating Trump?
if that's the case, than we are already so far lost from the point.


the pandemic continues to surge...Biden says he often forgets about Covid and declared the emergency over so that private companies can profit even more off a crisis.

the environment is collapsing and Biden won't declare a climate emergency and has granted more off-shore drilling than Trump. Fossil fuel companies are having record profits as the world burns.

Biden's response to social justice is "fund fund fund police", we have the largest police and pentagon budgets in history...Cop City in Atlanta and Cop City 2 in Baltimore are gonna help militarize the police even more...while taking billions from social services and actual crime prevention.

Homelessness and sucicide are at all time record rates.
Life expectancy in US has dropped.
Helath care, housing, food prices are rising while pay rates haven't.

Biden claims to be the most pro-union president in history, but he blocked the rail workers from striking, which had huge impacts...and we're currently in the midst of some of the largest labor strikes because of a lot of economic policies that Biden and corporate Dems helped institute.

We're deep in a proxy war with Russia and prepping the drums for war with China.

and sorry, Biden's one time $700 payment per household to the victims of Maui is just slightly more humane than Trump tossing paper towels to hurricane victims in Puerto Rico....especially when he announced another 20 billion to Ukraine at that same time.

So what are we 'winning' here??

Biden talking about wanting to 'finish the job'

finish what? the destruction of life on the planet?

what is considered winning these days ???
Is this winning????

One of the main reasons why 3rd parties are important is because it generates a larger and more honest conversation...but we aren't having that....and trying to silence or discredit anyone who attempts to have that convo, is only enabling the duopoly.

Trump fucked up society on so many levels....but some of the biggest damage he may have done is broken people's moral compass that we've accepted lesser sociopath behaviors just because it's "not Trump"

fuck you and anyone speaking ill of Dark Brandon.

That dude is a gotdamn saint!!!

I’d swing on you irl if you said this shit.

LEAVE HIM ALONE!!

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you'd swing on me IRL because I'm critical of Biden's capitalist and war policies?

yeah....that sounds reeeeeeeeeeal healthy.

this reaction is kinda proving my point that folks don't want to have actual conversations...threatening violence sounds like the better option than to bring up a single actual point I raised.

happy for you that your student debt was wiped out...you got the receipts for that to confirm? cause there are some iffy details on his latest plan...and you know who helped orchestrate a lot of those predatory loan rates in the first place? a certain senator from Delaware.


but for real, if you'd like to take some swings on me to show how rational and caring Biden supporters like you are, let me know, give me a location and time....I'm a pacifist, so won't return any blows, but maybe it will help you feel better if you feel like swings on someone who doesn't share your worship for Saint Biden.

not gonna lie, this reads the same way MAGA folks defend Trump.

4 years of trump? i know its not just about beating the other guy (under normal circumstances) but considering the damage this dude did on his first tour, can we survive another 4? where in the hell will we be? sometimes it is about the lesser of 2 evils unfortunately.

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...I didn't take any of what you wrote serious, but thanks for confirming my original point.

big simpin out in CLT!!!

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5 is a lot more than 0, so what are you even talking about?

People who don’t say much about Trump, but then get all specific and detailed about your Biden critiques and try to act like it’s a real competition? I don’t trust you.

This is a so so candidate vs. the worst candidate in any of our lifetimes. There’s no “ah, we’re screwed either way so let’s go 3rd party here.” That’s a vote for Trump. Just like 2016.

I reckon that the majority of us who were outside when the "Crime Bill" took friends and family away aren't huge fans of Biden.

But we can't act like Trump isn't he single worst President in our lifetime. Homeboy legit lied to the entire country about a pandemic that did way more than lock folks up. It took nearly a million of us OUT.

Stimulus checks don't even this thing out.

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>fuck you and anyone speaking ill of Dark Brandon.
>
>That dude is a gotdamn saint!!!
>
>I’d swing on you irl if you said this shit.
>
>LEAVE HIM ALONE!!

the forest for the trees.
You're wasting your breath on them.

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Nah. They’re not remotely comparable.

How could Biden's response possibly be worse than that? this post is a bunch of nonsense. You can criticize Biden all you want, but acting like him and Trump are no different is absurd.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

Did I say they are no different? I said that they are upholding a lot of the same policies....there are definite differences in some issues....those differences are the ones that get the hyper focus so we can act like there are fundamental changes in the duopoly.

easy just to just say that everything I wrote is 'nonsense' without bringing up any points or specifics...kind of proving my point that the discourse purposely averts us from talking about issues....just make dismissive or disingenuous critiques.

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"dangerous to democracy". It's honestly a gaslighting attempt at this point.

In many previous elections I could maybe get it. Kindve.

But now? After seeing how this mentality in 2016 gave us Trump??? And as horrific as he was as President…..he’s topped that many times over since 2020. I just don’t get it. This current Republican Party is the worst thing any of us have seen politically in our lifetimes. And it’s not even close.

like, someone who could like, actually get elected president

and actually sound like they want Trump to win since Biden isn’t perfect.

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probably won't change in our lifetime but a lot of people thought we would see a black president in our lifetimes but who knows but then we tried to get cute and push a female candidate through that obviously had major issues and it backfired and we got 45

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These disillusioned dipshits think they're going to lead the revolution and become the 21st century Robespierre.

Can't even muster enough support to win a small city council position yet they think they have the political know-how to lead a country. Foh.

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on the local and congressional level before trying to move to the white house

>These disillusioned dipshits think they're going to lead the
>revolution and become the 21st century Robespierre.
>
>Can't even muster enough support to win a small city council
>position yet they think they have the political know-how to
>lead a country. Foh.

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Trying to work and post and listen to audiobooks is too much I guess lol

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the system is simply not set up for a 3rd party.


>...the professional managerial class has done an incredible
>job at normalizing the duopoly and promoting the narrative
>that voting for actual issues is 'hurting democracy'
>
>I'm not saying folks need to support West or a 3rd party
>candidate....but calling out his integrity while defending
>Biden and the DNC???

Oh all fundraising is at least somewhat of a grift, but at least Biden can you know...actually win.

Sending Cornell money is a fucking waste. He has no chance- there is literally no benefit to him running (even if you like him). He knows it an everyone around him knows it.

It also isn't to set the foundation for future runs or whatever bullshit these 3rd party groups sell.

Its a two party system.


>
>saying that Cornel West an opp or grifter and basically saying
>that voters need to forgo their values and be 'brought to
>heel' and vote for Biden??!!!

Two different arguments. Cornel West is absolutely in on the grift.


But, yes we should all expect more from Democrats. What has bugged me out this cycle is now you can't even critique Dem policies because of Blue Maga.

Trump broke people's brains on both sides.


>
>
>If this is 'the most important election of our lifetime'™
>than maybe Democrats should run a better candidate....maybe
>host debates and a primary so we can have actual conversations
>about the issues that are threatening longterm survival on
>this planet...instead we're being lectured about how great the
>economy is doing with 'Bidenomics'
>

When is the last time a Prez in power faced a primary and won the general?


I get what you are saying...but a primary essentially guarantees a GOP win.


I wish Joe Biden decided not to run. On the other hand, the party would have anointed Kamala who is somehow even worse off the cuff.

It is extra disappointing because the party actually seems to have a decent bench this time around.





>Biden is currently polling below Trump.
>
>yes, we can place Trump's popularity on racism and bigotry,
>that absolutely plays a big part, but that's not the full
>story...but it seems clear that the MSM curated narrative
>doesn't want us having the larger discussion, because than
>we'd have to discuss the way dark money fuels actual policy
>and how both parties are essentially fighting for the same end
>goals behind closed doors...but issues that get ignored will
>never get fixed.
>
>the hubris of democrats with this election is giving the same
>energy of Hillary in '16

Yeah I worry about this too. I've already seen a lot of "its the media" plea cops.



>
>if it wasn't for Covid, Trump would have likely won in 2020.


You're probably right.

Post election, post 1/6 Dems should have put their foots in the GOP necks. Labelled them all insurrectionists....refused to seat the traitors in Congress...picked an aggressive AG who would have brought these charges earlier....and aggressively pursued Court Reform, which is all that matters at this point.


I honestly would not be surprised if we learn years down the road that Dems wanted Trump to be the nominee so they strung things along. 16 vibes for sure.


But, none of that is a defense or an excuse for a 3rd party run.


>and Biden showed that his response to the pandemic is just as
>bad, if not worse.

I wouldn't go that far, but blue Maga definitely doesn't want to hear about the similarities.

Current administration prioritized donors/companies/getting back to work just as much as the previous one...they were just smarter about it and had the vaccine to lean on.

Folks don't want to hear it though.


Not to mention all of the additional work protections that could have come out of it...lost opportunity.

Dems are just as loyal to their donors/ the stock economy as the GOP.


But again, those are only options. It fucking sucks.


But a centrist government is still better than a fascist one.


>
>Fuck Trump all day everyday....fuck Biden too.
>
>If this election is so important, Biden has no place
>running.
>but democrats don't ever need to take accountability or
>reflect....just blame West, Jill Stein, Bernie, Nader, or
>whoever else is playing the role of 'spoiler'....rinse, wash,
>repeat....until it all collapses.
>

I actually agree the 3rd party boogieman is used way too much...and way too many people let Dems off the hook because of it.


On the flip side, though...those 3rd party runs never made the Democrats better. Never led to any improvements, etc.

Just giant, ego-filled wastes of time and a few fucking outright scams. So maybe they don't prevent Dems from winning like the scare tactics, but they also don't make any movement the other way.


That said, don't send your money to Cornel. Don't send it to Dems either, but don't send it to a lost cause.

Find a local group or something. 3rd party runs are a waste of time.

Don't let your frustration with Democrats fool you into thinking the system wasn't designed to be this way.

We have two options.

But I push back on a few things... the "realistic" aspect. We have to make other things realistic. We have to. There was that post about the republican party splintering... and I for one, hope it fucking does. Because, fuck them, they should never win another election, but also because that would allow the democratic party to do the same, so we can actually get some parties that represent the will of the people. That aren't beholden to corporate interests, that aren't pro-war, that are actually pro-people.

And I think that there is benefit to Cornell running. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's a serious candidate, and he obviously has no chance to win, but him being there is beneficial in that he can pull the conversation left. Bernie, did the same thing. Without the threat of Bernie, does Biden adopt the progressive stances he's taken on some things? I don't think so. So if we have more voices making Democrats respond to those sorts of leftist ideas, we can begin to drag that worthless party left.

We know the system was designed this to be this way. We know that we have "two options." And we know that neither of those options is what we want. We have to make other things possible.

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LBJ was inaugurated on an airplane.

Honestly he'd probably be a better president if he was working on limited phone calls.

They'd have to make sure he didn't hide a smartphone in his ass on the way in, though.