"Did Michael Jackson invent that Michael Jackson voice?"
We all associate that high pitch baby voice for interviews and regular talking with MJJ, but I also noticed that other folks use it like Babyface and Smokey Robinson. Did they get that from MJJ or is there someone else it can be tracked back to?
Does anyone else do it?
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
4. "he was not a pedophile." In response to Reply # 2
perhaps you actually are, and you're projecting?
hm. look how you have the world fooled!
d
"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz "But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly
10. "GQ cover story in 1994 by Mary Fischer is but one example" In response to Reply # 9 Sat Dec-03-22 09:54 AM by Dr Claw
of exculpatory evidence that reveals the "MJ = pedo" notion is nothing but a nasty, racist, homophobic lie spread by dirty cops and his enemies in the entertainment industry.
motherfuckers spent millions to prop up 11-time failed litigants largely to destroy the commercial value of a dead man's art/brand with a premium TV propaganda film. Had America's favorite Black friend (aka Cosby 2.0) and all the same cast of Hollywood characters who are now trying to tell us Will Smith was a mass murderer for slapping a man propping it up.
anyone believing that horse shit them crackers been spreading around in 2022 is a copaganda drinking mark with liberal platitudes between their fucking ears.
12. "exactly. but that poster isn't interested in the truth" In response to Reply # 10
"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz "But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly
13. "I think it's crazy for anyone to say definitively that MJJ was not..." In response to Reply # 10
a Pedo.
Like you can check out my past posts on this and I use to be one of MJJs most fiercest defenders (and of course I use to cite that old GQ article) but the more you read about it, the more difficult it gets to say with certainty that he didn't do it. And I say that as a person who thinks the HBO Doc is trash, he was set on upon by vultures and people willing to pimp their kid out for money. It also gets hard to believe the lengths that MJJ was going through with these families, fighting for custody of these kids, paying all this money, and putting himself in compromising situations repeatedly, unless their was something seriously wrong going on.
IDK, and I am pretty sure I've read more about MJJ's case then people here arguing either way with certainty.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
14. "I draw the line at certainty. And I think he was inappropriate" In response to Reply # 13 Mon Dec-05-22 07:13 PM by Cold Truth
I think inappropriate is the bare minimum- but it's also the best case I can see against him. Not only did none of the charges ever stick, the motives of the parents involved make it clear that, in at least those cases, they were cash grabs and nothing more.
In terms of the actual charges, if they had the goods, he'd have been done.
He's a case where the reasonable doubt regarding the charges against him is significant, IMO.
I'm not as versed as I once was, and my memory is fuzzy on a lot, so I can't speak with my chest out like I once could. But I'm still comfortable saying he didn't do the things that were alleged, and so I think the push back against anyone saying he's a pederast is valid.
Whether he was a pedophile is a different discussion, and I can see where it's reasonable to come to that conclusion. But that in itself is not a crime until/unless he acted on it, and the evidence for that is minuscule to the best of my recollection, to the degree that it's reasonable to conclude that he didn't do the things that were alleged.
I think the problem in a case like his is the lack of nuance.
His music means a whole hell of a lot to me, so it's dishonest of me to say that I don't have an immediate bias. I have nothing but warm memories of the man as a child. So I'm sure that plays a role in my thinking, but I think the objective facts- and lack thereof- still made it incredibly hard to conclude that he was guilty.
15. "You obviously haven't" In response to Reply # 13
>IDK, and I am pretty sure I've read more about MJJ's case then >people here arguing either way with certainty.
and that is why I am so very adamant, because I have. The podcast series I linked (on going) compiles pretty much all of the things I have reviewed myself and more, using the accounts of the ACCUSERS as primary sources. It's 100% bullshit.
after he was stuck for his papers in 1993, all that followed were copycats with more and more bizarre accounts of events. And because corporate media never, EVER goes back and corrects a wrong we have to keep having these arguments.
people are running off a cowardice cocktail based of nothing but racist, homophobic innuendo.
5. "i thought they were doing it to appease white people" In response to Reply # 0
ie not appear too masculine, threatening, aggressive...
also with MJ he was a child star so he had insecurities with getting older, feeling ugly (not a cute kid anymore), voice cracking and changing... at least that's the way it was portrayed in a biopic about him.
-- Sometimes you have to look reality in the face and say 'No!' -Ben (Reaper)
11. "With Mike, I always felt it was about congruency" In response to Reply # 0 Sat Dec-03-22 12:05 PM by Dr Claw
Between singing voice and speaking voice, to keep in practice with his vocal range. Otherwise he'd be on that Al B Sure, early Prince, Michel'le type dichotomy lol
But the rest of his siblings talk that way too. Even Jackie to a degree
Printer-friendly copy 
Email this topic to a friend
General Discussion
