"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

KRS has one helluva catalog.

While I probably couldn’t name 10 KRS-One songs, I’m sure that if some begin playing I can hum along. We are really talking about someone (KRS) that is definitely on the Mount Rushmore of Hip Hop.

I’m now trying to think of 10 Kane songs that are universally known. I’m inclined to only be able to come up with songs made before and including those on “A Taste of Chocolate”.

I hope Kane doesn’t drop the Patti Labelle and Barry White collabs and try to explain them away with a story…or the joint he did w/Quincy Jones. That was a horrible period of Kane music at least to my then 15 year old ears.

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Kane still got a dope show and plenty of songs. HOWEVER, KRS got soooooooo many songs!

the energy in KRS's songs will probably win him this vz. maybe if they actually freestyle battle, Kane will have a better shot.

and Ra's show was pretty terrible. folks were leaving during his interrupted set. he's the most revered of the 3, but had the least entertaining show.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

I also saw them all on the same bill and his performance was zzzzZZZZ

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Rakim going on after PE tore down the stage at their peak during the Def Jam tour in Philly back in 88. I felt so bad for Ra... But it seems like he didn't learn anything from them times the way yall are scoffing at his live show now.

plus Symphony, Show and Prove, and Burn Hollywood Burn and get to 20.

KRS has more, but Kane can perform and get to 20. He will hold his own.

...from 87-90 though (the most important years to me) they are neck & neck

Kane's best songs from Prince Of Darkness on....

Brother Brother
How U get a Record Deal
Stop Shammin

And most people forgot or never knew theses to begin with...

KRS was just getting started with his "Solo" phase in 92/93 dropping 1 bonafide classic "Return of the Boom Bap"... the Self titled LP.. then then "I got Next" which wasn't a classic, but spawned one his most popular songs of all time along with a few other greats "A friend" and the previously released "The MC"

I hope they end it there because KRS dropped about 20 more albums after that but they never hit like his great 90s albums..

KRS all day..

but like I said.. if they start dancing???

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Bc there might actually be dancing if so lol

Not sure if you caught any of it too but I randomly started watching that live audience Fat Joe-Ja Rule Verzuz and it was SO GOOD

The energy, the crowd participation, the shit-talking, the stage presence (mostly Ja Rule's), the cameos/feature artists being brought out etc

Basically a full-fledged concert

def the best possible way to deliver these matchups imho


But ya if you're certain Kane's live show is what would make him more competitive, we might get a chance to see lol

I've seen both, and Kane is GOOD but KRS is probably one of the greatest live rappers of all time.

The real winner: Younger folks not familiar with either but get hyped after seeing it.

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...I've seen Kane perform a few times, but I was too young to see a show in his prime ...Kane still has a dope live show ...these 2 all time greats will put on something very entertaining to watch i'm sure of it

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First show I wrung sweat from my tshirt
Remember seeing vids of his performances...when I was old enough...we was in there, yeah, yeah

We old now, so I doubt MFers gonna be jumping for the sky like back in the day...but yeah, I will never forget my first KRS show.

It'll be a dope battle IMO
Kane with the smooth, laid back, top notch barz

KRS doing the hype high energy show

Here for it.

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Even though I see the data and know the era well...my inner child is team Kane all day, lol. He was my first solo favorite rapper...gotta roll with him.

on up into freshman year at Page....
But KRS one though....I gotta say...his catalog probably had a bigger impact on the man I am today.





"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

based on your life's soundtrack, I'm probably a few years behind you as Kane was my guy when I was at General Greene. KRS really REALLY took over Kane for me around Return of the Boom Bap.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

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Check ya self, what percentage is you? (c) Jay-Z

"I mean yeah I be lurking and shit...but I'm saying though..."

prolly not popular enough.

the man, the icon
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Come get it
https://youtu.be/47_-zTtg_fo

macula's theory
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28 bars
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any type of way
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Felt like snoop was giving X a bag
Lox giving Dip (mostly Juelz) a bag
Joe giving Ja a bag

KRS is a brand
I could see where Kane would need the bag
But I'm here for it.

I remember that live recording of Raw at the Apollo
Kane was that dude...this is going to be good!

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because really....
I can't think of a single track that KRS one has that is better than RAW....lyrically that is....
I'm aging...so my memory be shaken sometimes too though lol...

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

but KRS is how I fell in love with lhip hop. specifically, the battles

Made me smile ☺️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Piw8TM8ZTnw

That was in Russia!


His lyrical style is too raw, and its a battle style of
of rap, which will keep the heads nodding. He doesn't have a boring
rhyme form, and KRS' rhyme form is similar because he comes from the
same era.

His style of rhyming comes from battling and getting the crowd hype.


Kool Moe Dee
LL Cool J ( early LL)
KRS One
BDK
Chubb Rock

*They all had similar "prepare for battle" rhyme forms*

The only problem he could run into are people in the
audience not being familiar with his music, since he
had a shorter hip hop life span than KRS One. However,
from his recent performances overseas, he can move a crowd
that consists of divergent hip hip generations. But the hip
hop overseas is still in tune with real hip hop music,
so they want to hear authentic lyricism and boom bap beats,
regardless of the different age groups. I would imagine that, considering the artists who are performing, the majority of the
versus crowd will be real hip hip listeners who know and
understand the history of hip hop.

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This $hit is going to be official
Brooklyn in the house.
BDK might pull this off...

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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Not.
Seriously dude’s been overdoing that schtick to the point of self sabotage.
Some promoters are not fkn with him because of that.

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

the ace in the hole for all of these verzuz battles....

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Kris announced he is coming with DJ SCRATCH. BDK better holla at Kid Capri or something, because Mister Cee is NOT fucking with Scratch on his worst day.

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lol...

...cant wait for this shit

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I missed the beginning and I am still emotional. The guests!!! Das Efx, Buckshot, Nice & Smooth, Masta Ace, Craig G., Roxanne Shante, the b-boys doing their thing....it was beautiful. The Symphony had me losing my shit. The love Kane and KRS showed each other....amidst all the shit talking. D.J. Scratch and Kid Capri were dope. This was a show! The golden era represented on the big stage. I'm going to have to watch it again.

yeah it was for show and fun but they were throwing shots all night, starting with krs saying kane was hiding haha

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

battling, etc

Can’t wait to watch it.

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i feel like if i was there in person i would give it to krs hands down. what he was doing works really well in person and in small venues but having everyone say half your verses didnt come across as well on tv for me.

seeing kane just straight spit the whole night was great.

i liked kanes style more but krs just has too many bangers. krs songs were basically all hyped up songs and kane doesnt have as many of those.

I love Kane. He's a showman. A legendary MC. KRS really had no answer for The Symphony (even without Kool G Rap and the shortened Kane verse). Kane still has a live set and can burn an MC on the mic

BUT

Nobody wants to put KRS live, onstage, and let him freestyle. You can't beat him at that

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kris ego can only hold back for so long lol. as the night went on his jabs got a liiiiiittle bit harder with each one (ie: they running out of records!). he didnt get out of hand tho lol (i think he was on the verge.) i wish Shawnie would have let loose alil bit more...and if Kool G woulda showed up shit woulda went completely ham

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They really leveraging this platform
Put up my $3...just so I could rewatch the Supercat sat
F'n killed
F'n Barrington Levy sounds like a record
Supercat killed

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KRS got that, but that's because dude is simply a force of nature and his sets are always high energy, plus his voice was made for performing for a crowd and them beats just sounded lovely, they hit you in your chest.

But man, Kane just means so much to me that I was more in awe of him, his breath control, his charisma, his ability to smoothly shift into 80's mode and then hit you with a flow that would be at home on a fucking Griselda joint.

Jut an epic, epic show all round. Best Verzuz yet.

Like I said in an earlier post, I know what the stat sheets said but BDK was my first "favorite" rapper. I loved LL, RUN DMC but my first favorite MC was BDK...in the 80's? first dark brotha I saw that was crazy nice on the mic and the girls LOVED him...so by 4th grade, I was all in, lol. However, by the time I bought 'Return of the Boom Bap' from Camelot music...it was a wrap, lol.

That said, I was impressed by both of their performances. They both did what they said they would do. The guess appearances were done well and didn't take down the energy at all. I was geeked the whole time.

For hip hop fans like me too young to have experienced or appreciated these guys in their prime, it really gave as close as possible substitute to what that would've been like (and I'm sure barely scratched the surface).

I mean the dynamic with scratch and kid capri alone was so different than how mcs these days interact with djs (or rather, don't interact lol). And the bboy part? The moment with Roxanne Shante? I mean, it was all there. Total edutainment.

I was also stunned how well these guys can perform despite pushing damn near 60, wow. I got a little nervous at some points lol, but clearly when you basically pioneer a genre/movement that muscle memory never really goes away.

I saw a lot of ppl give it to KRS, and I'm more familiar with him since his 50 gazillion songs has spanned even my time, lol.

But man, I could not take my eyes off BDK. Is the consensus that he's the best rapper of all time? He truly must be, omg. Even at this age - the skill, the swag, the moves, the presence *swoon*

Like, I'm familiar with his classics but it was something else just seeing him in that element. I totally get the hype now; like feel it deep in my bones. Folks that came of age on him are super lucky.

The way he can just ride literally ANY BEAT. Who else is fucking with him uptempo?! And then when he snapped on the TRAP BEAT! Literally just for fun but sounding better than most rappers today. Just pure excellence. A virtuoso. Great show, I really enjoyed watching.

>But man, I could not take my eyes off BDK. Is the consensus
>that he's the best rapper of all time? He truly must be, omg.
>Even at this age - the skill, the swag, the moves, the
>presence *swoon*
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>Like, I'm familiar with his classics but it was something else
>just seeing him in that element. I totally get the hype now;
>like feel it deep in my bones. Folks that came of age on him
>are super lucky.
>
>The way he can just ride literally ANY BEAT. Who else is
>fucking with him uptempo?! And then when he snapped on the
>TRAP BEAT! Literally just for fun but sounding better than
>most rappers today. Just pure excellence. A virtuoso. Great
>show, I really enjoyed watching.

he could do everything as an MC. If you want raw spit, he got that. you want edutainment, he got that. you want goofy songs, yup. girl songs, check.

I think the timing for Kane wasn't great after his first 2 albums. hip hop got more grimy in the 90's. he wanted to do more than that. Rakim and KRS did more straight forward songs that fit the times better. Kane's his remaining albums didn't hit like his first couple.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Considering the role he played in others' careers eg. early Jay-Z, for whom the timing worked out a lot better and whose career endured (comparatively) longer due in part to some qualities clearly inspired by Kane (like the versatility you mention).

I think it's fine for a pioneer to have massive impact in a spotlight of shorter duration tho; doesn't and shouldn't take away from his legacy at all imho.

I guess it also helps that BDK really OWNS his pioneer status too, tho. Like, besides the respect in the room just being palpable last night (at least, judging from facial expressions in the audience ranging from everyday heads to vets like 9th, Busta, Swizz, and whoever else was there), BDK didn't just go up there and rap his songs. He literally carried himself like the best MC to have ever done it and demonstrated physically, mentally, and lyrically why hardly any other MCs past or present can touch him.

To younger/later hip hop fans like myself who might've been aware of his classics, stature, etc but have not necessarily known/felt/remembered the hype during his prime, that old man made his case exceptionally well lol.

Like sure, some MCs may rap louder or faster or have a little schmoney dance or whatever. But on every conceivable measure one would think to assess an MC he delivered a masterclass. And again, what gets me is the range of tempos and beats he can do it on. He's unmatched.

Consider me Kane-pilled I guess lol.

The BIG thing for me was KRS not finishing his rhymes - BECUASE - the audience was doing it for him.

They need to MIC the audience more - or - the MC's must finish the rhymes. I think a louder mic'd crowd response would have added A LOT of impact to the stream that was missing - I'm sure in the arena it was MUCH more hyped.

Other than that ONE thing it was perfect.

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Kid Capri dressed like a celebrity poker player.

DJ Scratch needed to lay back a bit.

Krazy Drazy kept rapping - he was just hyped. I've SEEN shows where Greg Nice did this too. They love being on stage.

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in a regular show it works and is dope. in this he needed to be more picky on when he did that and they should have had a mic in the audience.

For KRS, it's muscle memory at this point to let the crowd finish his rhymes.
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>DJ Scratch needed to lay back a bit.

I love Scratch, but I agree. He's a HUGE self-promoter, and this is the second Verzuz in a row that he's been involved in that he's wanted to make himself the star. KRS put him in check, and then Kane told him to fall back later.

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Was incredibly impressed with BDK’s breath control
Reminded me of a recent EWF concert
…no way Philip Bailey is going to hit that falsetto…
Killed.
BDK killed his performance…no doubt.
The Symphony was historic

I wonder why Scratch instead of Mr Cee
I’ve seen the Jason routine…and the djs weren’t a factor

Shout to the bboy crews too
Maybe an entire crew battle can happen
DJ vs DJ
MC vs MC
Breakers vs Breakers
Graf vs Graf
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Mastered crowd control and went into his bag of dope shit from his Golden Era. Was definitely happy Kane went deep into his Golden Era bag as well.

I thought the event was mic'ed wrong. You could hear the two emcees and the DJs, but not the crowd. And bouncing off the crowd is a big part of KRS' performances.

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>Mastered crowd control and went into his bag of dope shit
>from his Golden Era. Was definitely happy Kane went deep into
>his Golden Era bag as well.
>
>I thought the event was mic'ed wrong. You could hear the two
>emcees and the DJs, but not the crowd. And bouncing off the
>crowd is a big part of KRS' performances.



LOL you're going to give the win to the guy who couldn't even complete 2 lines in a row ???? KRS was an EMBARRASSMENT out there.. we ALL saw that shit.

KRS is still my #1... but he straight up got SMOKED last night.

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>LOL you're going to give the win to the guy who couldn't even
>complete 2 lines in a row ???? KRS was an EMBARRASSMENT out
>there.. we ALL saw that shit.

I don't think he was not completing raps due to breath control or memory loss - he was letting the crowd rap for him. And it didn't translate well on the stream.

But his freestyles were all completed well because no one could finish the line for him

that was my impression.

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>I don't think he was not completing raps due to breath control
>or memory loss - he was letting the crowd rap for him. And it
>didn't translate well on the stream.


That lazy shit is cool for some small club in copenhagen.. but on the stage in a battle vs KANE??? You're going to have to not be lazy and SAY YOUR FUCKING RHYMES.. Krs knows better.. he was unprepared and it showed.

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I agree him finishing ALL the rhymes would have been better.

Also: If they both stopped telling their DJs to 'STOP!" or "RUN IN BACK!' so much, that'd been nice too.

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>I agree him finishing ALL the rhymes would have been better.
>
>Also: If they both stopped telling their DJs to 'STOP!" or
>"RUN IN BACK!' so much, that'd been nice too.


DJ Scratch was way too cocky.. everyone knows he could dismantle Kid Capri in a battle.. not sure if Kid Capri went at him or not, but that was kind of unfair.. KRS could have came with a better (skilled) Dj as well.

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>LOL you're going to give the win to the guy who couldn't even
>complete 2 lines in a row ????

IT was that he couldn't, it was that he didn't, because he was rocking with the crowded inside the venue. Which, you know, was responding. Again, he's got 30 years of muscle memory of feeding the crowd lines. He's not switching up his steez tto play from people watching online in Dubai. When he did the deeper cuts, like "The MC" or "Poetry," he finished all of the lines.

KRS was an EMBARRASSMENT out
>there.. we ALL saw that shit.

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>IT was that he couldn't, it was that he didn't, because he was
>rocking with the crowded inside the venue. Which, you know,
>was responding. Again, he's got 30 years of muscle memory of
>feeding the crowd lines. He's not switching up his steez tto
>play from people watching online in Dubai. When he did the
>deeper cuts, like "The MC" or "Poetry," he finished all of the
>lines.



Muscle memory of not spitting your rhymes? LMAO.. that's great

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>Muscle memory of not spitting your rhymes? LMAO.. that's
>great

Dude, don't be obtuse. Do you REALLY think he couldn't remember his rhymes? Or was he playing off the crowd? THAT'S the muscle memory.

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>>Muscle memory of not spitting your rhymes? LMAO.. that's
>>great
>
>Dude, don't be obtuse. Do you REALLY think he couldn't
>remember his rhymes? Or was he playing off the crowd? THAT'S
>the muscle memory.


I do not care if he did it was by choice, was lazy or he just forgot.. aside from his freestyles, his performance was a trainwreck.. Kid Capri was no help either..

KANE KILLED HIM

yeah, you peeped that too? At one point, it did look as if KRS got a little nervous. I think it was around the time D.J. Scratch said something and KRS had to check him.