Always think of patrice’s bit when these stories happen—not trying to make light of it & what that family must be going through now, just wish law enforcement would get this proactive with the use of their resources to solve all missing person cases.

My question/rant: given the details known at the time, how do they not already take him into custody when they knew he was at the parents house in Florida? That little grace period allowed for dude to go hide in the Florida woods..now what if he offs himself? Then poor girl’s fam have to go through rest of their lives not knowing what went down.

Again, not that it’s not important, but the media coverage is insane. When I saw it it was the main headline story on cnn.com…like at this point in 2021 how is the media not self aware about missing white woman syndrome?

Shit, OAN’s core audience probably wants this story to break up the political news cycle.

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The O.G. the started the new cycle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Amy_Lynn_Bradley

Then THE BIG ONE:
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it's not a big deal that he didn't bring his fiancee back is mad compelling. I watched my first police press conference yesterday because I wanted to know what they found and how come they didn't arrest that boyfriend and what's his story. That crazy part of the story plays a part at least in my interest in the story.

At the same time I watched the documentary Outcry which is soo good but watched the whole time thinking, a black kid would never have been able to overcome that wrong conviction.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

it's as absurd as Costanza's idea to just stroll into his job on Monday and act like he wasn't just fired Friday...like "um, youu..don't think we don't see how completely shady this is? and that we're not gonna call you out on it?"

Good thing everybody doesn't have their own "Mr. Wolf"

Young, white, and attractive female is a *chef's kiss* for front page news.

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>Always think of patrice’s bit when these stories
>happen—not trying to make light of it & what that family
>must be going through now, just wish law enforcement would get
>this proactive with the use of their resources to solve all
>missing person cases.
>
>My question/rant: given the details known at the time, how do
>they not already take him into custody when they knew he was
>at the parents house in Florida? That little grace period
>allowed for dude to go hide in the Florida woods..now what if
>he offs himself? Then poor girl’s fam have to go through
>rest of their lives not knowing what went down.

I thought about Patrice IMMEDIATELY when I saw the story. That bit has always been amazing and basically perfect.

And duh, I was up on that boyfriend like 'really!? WTF mane?'.

especially since dude was likely texting and posting from her phone after she died.

but yeah, people go missing everyday smh.

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without really even thinking about it, but every time that story popped up, that Patrice jingle popped in my head.

this is what happens

"Biff seems like a good dude beer ponger etc so lets let him go..oh wait oh no....."

they're Becky Slippin

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Bf takes family mustang to the swamp place--police alert the fam about the abandoned car..and their reaction is "leave it there so he can drive back"? not "let's look for him too/we're really worried about him now"? So they're in on it. Well-thought out misdirect for the cops. And I don't think suicide is on the table because this asshole really thinks he's gonna get away with it (finding "remains" tells me he put in work there)

My guess is this kid took a boat (facilitated by the fam) trying to get somewhere..(Cuba?) and on some Bloodline shit, he's gonna get caught, like using his phone over there or some dumb shit like that.

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And throw in his addiction, money fraud, and suicide plot going to inspire?

or was that his suicide attempt?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-carolina-man-charged-assisted-suicide-shooting-alex-murdaugh-n1279208

wtf!!!!!

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They said he’s in the woods known for a lot of alligators too

If he does kill himself we may not find a body.

im prolly racist tho.

but i notice that it does spawn a secondary discussion about the treatment of this white kid by law enforcement compared to a hypothetical black suspect.

and that type of regular reinforcement of the perception/reality of a double standard is starting to stick more and more among the general (white) public. and thats a good thing.

i honestly dont wanna be bombarded with a bunch of imagery of black boyfriends, uncles, neighbors etc suspected of crimes against other black people. i recognize the problematic aspects of this line of thinking. but i also recognize the type of damage that the proliferation of those images have done historically. so thats where im at with it. damage mitigation and the least harmful option. and i hope those crimes can be solved without needing the same level of public attention/sensationalism.

person cases that don't get publicized. And it's just a really clear example of how ratings impact what gets media coverage...in a missing person case there are certain checkboxes that make the story more enticing for the audience...

First of all you have white, female, young, cute, etc...but then there needs to be some type of extra aspect to make the story pop - shady boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, parents, whatever, or off on vacation in some exotic location, or some kind of interesting evidence. It's the same reason why all these true crime podcasts and documentaries are so popular, but it's crazy how it drives mainstream media coverage.

The flip side of that is all the stories that DON'T get covered. My wife volunteers for a non-profit that raises awareness and funds for the fight against human trafficking. She's worked directly with survivors who were in sex slavery and made it out. And most of the victims ARE white women, just based on demographics, but there aren't the circumstances there that I mentioned above which make those stories pop. This stuff happens WAY more often than we hear about. If you're in any metro area I guarantee you've unknowingly been around it in some way. But those missing person stories don't get anywhere near the kind of attention that others get.

/losing control of their van shortly before she disappeared is surreal to watch for many reasons, wow.

IPV is serious and if domestic violence plagued their relationship or is related to her disappearance/death that's incredibly sad, just like it would be for any couple.

But I can not get over the dynamic of this police interaction. It's like they were their... butlers? Not saying police brutality should be expected, but this other extreme is nearly as jarring.

Also weird how it was just assumed (i.e. no pat downs?) that neither were armed, despite her clear emotional distress and his candid admission they were physically fighting when he lost control of the van.

It's just very difficult for me to imagine any couple other than a young blonde girl and and her equally self-effacing bf being treated this way by police. And if it turns out he actually did murder her, then the kids gloves they're treated with here is actually kinda damning. As in, maybe a future (possibly fatal) fight/altercation could have been prevented.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCGsW41aQEw

That whole story is batshit crazy. It got maybe a day of real news coverage and has now faded. Dude may have offed his entire family and the maid. I guess because he is fat and white, not a pretty little white girl.

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Apparently the lawyers dead son killed a young, pretty white girl in a boating accident and he was supposedly intoxicated/drunk at the time of the accident.

may have been involved in beating another priviliged kid to death and covering it up.

Sordid story.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/alex-murdaugh-investigations-explained-south-carolina-murder-fraud-obstruction-of-justice-maybe-more.html

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the caller saw him hitting and punching her on the road..told this to the 911 operator

either the 911 operator didn't share that info w/the cops that stopped the van, or they didn't care

her boyfriend (and the cops) abusively gaslit her to the point where the cops ended up making "women be crazy sometimes" headass jokes w/him, while telling her to 'calm down'..

"men do the calm down thing to women all the time especially when the men provoke the rage in the first place. it's a sick power play that is ubiquitious in relationships. then men look at each other and laugh. the cops played along because they support the misogyny."

case in point, the report ended up claiming that SHE was the agressor and he was the victim.


"Gabby was a blond haired white woman and the police still let her abuser slide away like a damn theif in the night. If that doesn't tell you how horrible it is for all women, idk what else can"

yall can cackle about disparities in race all the damn day but EVERY FUCKING TIME y'all miss the misogyny.

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"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

You're right to call out the misogyny. And it's possible she injured him in self-defense, and his initial strikes could have been severe without drawing blood like hers did.

But I was *very* uncomfortable with the cops' default assumption that a crying blonde woman couldn't (or shouldn't) POSSIBLY be charged with assault, have to spend the night in jail, need to make a court date, etc etc. They reinforced that shit multiple times and it turned my stomach.

I know IPV is a very delicate and complex issue, but women assault men too (and certainly young blonde women), and in this instance I feel they should have just done what they were reluctant to do given his injuries and their mandates when it comes to DV calls. I think it would have been safer for everyone involved.

Gabby and this dude clearly had a toxic and volatile relationship rife with various forms of abuse, but had the cops not been so committed to letting her off it might have prevented them from spiralling out of control afterwards.

Personally, I'm just waiting to hear whether Gabby's autopsy reveals she had any gunshot wounds. Because btwn the double homicide of the lesbian couple (Kylen and Crystal) that happened shortly afterwards around the same location (the couple had told friends shortly before being murdered that there was a creepy guy hanging around their campsite and even predicted that they might be murdered if noone hears from them)... how tf is he (or, tbh, she) not implicated?? This literally might even be some serial killer shit.

If he or she was armed and the cops didn't catch it, that's an even worse failure.

>You're right to call out the misogyny. And it's possible she
>injured him in self-defense, and his initial strikes could
>have been severe without drawing blood like hers did.
>
>But I was *very* uncomfortable with the cops' default
>assumption that a crying blonde woman couldn't (or shouldn't)
>POSSIBLY be charged with assault, have to spend the night in
>jail, need to make a court date, etc etc. They reinforced that
>shit multiple times and it turned my stomach.
>
>I know IPV is a very delicate and complex issue, but women
>assault men too (and certainly young blonde women), and in
>this instance I feel they should have just done what they were
>reluctant to do given his injuries and their mandates when it
>comes to DV calls. I think it would have been safer for
>everyone involved.


this that false equivalency, both-sides-ism bullshit that completely ignores and undervalues how dangerous patriarchal rape culture is to women.

to say this shit after what i wrote reveals that your conditioning has been conditioned and i don't have the energy for this bullshit anymore.

d

"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

should not be charged, spend a night in jail, need to make a court date?

I understand where you're coming from and I respect your opinion (always)

But that was like watching a skit on white female privilege

Of course we view it differently now bc we heard the 911 call and they ended up having another fatal altercation later on

Given the info/evidence the officers had at that time tho, they had every reason to follow their normal protocol for DV calls - even SAID as much - and then found a loophole that ended up leading to a worse outcome

My main point is only that NOT bending over backward to avoid staining Gabby's record after she injured her fiance could have, ironically, saved her life. Not that she was the primary abuser in their relationship.

Yes I know the stats, but are we really going to sit here and say that in every DV call police must always charge the man regardless of the evidence they're presented? I believe plenty men can be held accountable while also holding women accountable in the rare instances we are the primary aggressor too.

They seperated them. Got both of their stories. Their stories were consistent in both of them said she was hitting him. They pressed her as to whether he hit her. She said no but he did grab her face (consistent with the 911 call).

Hindsight 20/20 but all we talk about is cops need to learn to de-escalate and not use force and arrest people for the sake of arresting people and that's what they did.

And knowing DV is tricky he ordered them to separate for the night (and order of course which they had no obligation to follow).


Not sure what more a cop should have done in this situation and saying the cop should have arrested her runs counter to everything activist say about how cops should handle situations like this.





>
>should not be charged, spend a night in jail, need to make a
>court date?
>
>I understand where you're coming from and I respect your
>opinion (always)
>
>But that was like watching a skit on white female privilege
>
>Of course we view it differently now bc we heard the 911 call
>and they ended up having another fatal altercation later on
>
>Given the info/evidence the officers had at that time tho,
>they had every reason to follow their normal protocol for DV
>calls - even SAID as much - and then found a loophole that
>ended up leading to a worse outcome
>
>My main point is only that NOT bending over backward to avoid
>staining Gabby's record after she injured her fiance could
>have, ironically, saved her life. Not that she was the primary
>abuser in their relationship.
>
>Yes I know the stats, but are we really going to sit here and
>say that in every DV call police must always charge the man
>regardless of the evidence they're presented? I believe plenty
>men can be held accountable while also holding women
>accountable in the rare instances we are the primary aggressor
>too.
>


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuckTkE7T4

>They seperated them. Got both of their stories. Their
>stories were consistent in both of them said she was hitting
>him. They pressed her as to whether he hit her. She said no
>but he did grab her face (consistent with the 911 call).
>
>Hindsight 20/20 but all we talk about is cops need to learn to
>de-escalate and not use force and arrest people for the sake
>of arresting people and that's what they did.
>
>And knowing DV is tricky he ordered them to separate for the
>night (and order of course which they had no obligation to
>follow).
>
>
>Not sure what more a cop should have done in this situation
>and saying the cop should have arrested her runs counter to
>everything activist say about how cops should handle
>situations like this.
>

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DV calls are a domain in which they have very little discretion and pretty much have to follow protocol, especially when one party is visibly injured, the cops spoke extensively about how they didn't want to have to put Gabby in hand cuffs, didn't want her to have to spend the night in jail, didn't want to burden her with a court date, didn't want to soil her record with an assault charge etc etc. They also didn't thoroughly check whether either was armed other than a casual glance which I still think is wild, given how violent these two were towards each other. And as Damali emphasizes, they played into her dude's gaslighting (i.e. basically boiling the altercation down to moodswings/nagging over dirty feet and other minutiae rather than abuse) and imho their co-dependency (i.e. both adamant, despite just beating on each other, that they didn't want to spend the night apart). Imho all these concessions were unnecessary, especially considering police don't equally/frequently afford them to others.

I'm not trying to come down abnormally hard on Gabby, tho I'm sure it comes across that way now that it's confirmed she died by homicide. But imho the police tripping over themselves to lavish all that extra privilege on, by their characterization, a pristine and infallible (but violent) young blonde woman and her sheepish bf ultimately encouraged the couple's toxic dynamic rather than force them to pump the brakes. For example, perhaps the hand cuffs, the night in jail - especially if that's what would normally happen in a DV call to the aggressor who caused visible injury - could have been the motivator Gabby needed to actually leave this dude? Or at least cut the trip short? There's prob little that could have caused her to re-evaluate the situation more than a lonely ass night in a jail cell, like look wtf this dude has me in right now. The fact that she told officers she wanted to continue the trip with him in spite of the verbal and physical abuse she'd just described is proof she needed help to get out. Which the protocol the cops said they are normally supposed to follow would have facilitated.

I donno. I mean ya, I also understand where you're coming from re: the excessive force argument. But to me those are ALSO situations where police go beyond what should be normal protocol, just that they do TOO MUCH (eg. George Floyd murder). In this situation with Gabby and her fiance, I feel the police went above and beyond normal protocol to do TOO LITTLE. Again, I'm just arguing that the police should have followed their normal protocol for DV and Gabby might be alive today had they done so. And there really wasn't any basis for all those concessions, other than white female privilege.

(if a moderator is out there: can you change title of post if possible?dick move on my part in retrospect now knowing with certainty this person was murdered)

and turn up dead every day and its barely reported on local news.

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however, i'm simply pointing out y'all always ignore the gender part. its almost like intersectionality don't exist to y'all

i'm Black AND i'm a woman. which means i'm impacted heavily by white supremacy AND patriarchy

i gotta fight the oppression from those in the outside white world AND the men inside my own Black world.

d

"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

>however, i'm simply pointing out y'all always ignore the
>gender part. its almost like intersectionality don't exist to
>y'all
>
>i'm Black AND i'm a woman. which means i'm impacted heavily by
>white supremacy AND patriarchy
>
>i gotta fight the oppression from those in the outside white
>world AND the men inside my own Black world.

How are we ignoring the gender part when the entire post is about how a missing white woman was reported vs women of other races?

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I dunno why I have fun reducing this to a series of clichés, but the way things are panning out I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he shoved her off some ledge unintentionally, went catatonic and just drove home, then as a nature guy decided he needed to go get swallowed by an alligator or whatever same as dude in Alaska with the bears (accidentally).


Allegedly, allegedly.


For the families' sakes I hope they find the kid out there and he answers to whatever happened (especially since the frequent use of "remains" rather than "body" suggests...Bob Durst level efforts to cover up what happened) but yea, at this point this is the premise of a limited series on FX as much as a real life scenario. The fixation on its facts is less and less weird every day.


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