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"This Jeopardy Controversy is just downright embarrassing. "


  

          

So yall seen this winner on Jeopardy was accused of throwing a white supremacy ok gesture when he won the other night.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/550895-jeopardy-erupts-in-controversy-after-winner

We have seen this before and have always felt that it was Alt-right's biggest success in owning the libs to have us seeking out secret code in a gesture that Ball Players, Nupes and generally everybody who has done an OK sign at one time or another in their life.


So he eventually came out and disavowed White Supremacy.

https://ew.com/tv/jeopardy-kelly-donohue-condemns-white-supremacy-hand-gesture-controversy/

But the only thing that was accomplished was giving something for Fox News & the NY Post to talk about.



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this whole thing with the OK sign has always been stupid as fuck
May 01st 2021
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^^^
May 01st 2021
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should have done the melo "3 to the dome"
May 01st 2021
3
There is no cancel culture!
May 02nd 2021
4
Some of y’all are way too trusting in white innocence
May 02nd 2021
5
RE: Some of y’all are way too trusting in white innocence
May 02nd 2021
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I don’t even think it’s worth all that discussion
May 02nd 2021
7
Ur not wrong. He could have used his first three fingers and didn’t
May 02nd 2021
8
So does that work. His plan was to win the first two matches and
May 02nd 2021
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      How does what work? White stupidity and opportunism?
May 02nd 2021
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      i wonder how some of these folks function lol
May 02nd 2021
11
      If he got to three, he wasn’t gonna let the opportunity pass.
May 02nd 2021
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      lol yeah, i mean its not impossible
May 02nd 2021
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           The former contestant world is small enough
May 02nd 2021
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                do you want him to be a nazi?
May 02nd 2021
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                     I don't think I could care less what he is
May 02nd 2021
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                          fair enough
May 02nd 2021
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                          couldn't agree more
May 03rd 2021
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it seems Trump has made everyone worse
May 02nd 2021
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NOPE. this is not a trump thing, Blame The Internet.
May 03rd 2021
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      internets are worse too
May 03rd 2021
25
damn, OKP ready to let dude off the hook like that?
May 03rd 2021
19
I figured it was a matter of time before something like this happened
May 03rd 2021
20
This is really interesting - thanks for sharing the insider perspective....
May 03rd 2021
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thank you
May 04th 2021
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Of all the ppl who invaded the Capitol...
May 03rd 2021
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75 mill voted for Trump..
May 03rd 2021
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what are you saying?
May 03rd 2021
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as if only REAL white supremacists invaded the capital only
May 03rd 2021
29
the invention of dual symbolism in our modern times is genus levels shit
May 03rd 2021
27
I’m shocked people in here don’t believe these folk are above trolli...
May 04th 2021
31

BrooklynWHAT
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1. "this whole thing with the OK sign has always been stupid as fuck "
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Sat May-01-21 11:30 AM by BrooklynWHAT

  

          

Breh was throwing up fingers for every day that he had won on each ep.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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2. "^^^"
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sometimes, we be overblowing shit.

this whole thing is dumb af.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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3. "should have done the melo "3 to the dome""
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no mistaking that for a white supremacist faux gang sign

  

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4. "There is no cancel culture! "
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Performative Wokesters.

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5. "Some of y’all are way too trusting in white innocence "
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Sun May-02-21 09:17 AM by MEAT

  

          

Gesture looks wild weird even given the context

Here’s the image:

https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Kelly_Donohue-e1619805106630.jpg


Like nobody does three as a bolo tie. It’s almost always that circle with the index and thumb while the other three fingers curl towards your face
This man out here given himself carpal tunnel in the age of ironic nazis and for whatever reason y’all wanna argue for his benefit of the doubt.

It sure looks like he knows how to use his fingers correctly for 1 and 2 but suddenly three is wild alt righty.

https://twitter.com/kokomosal/status/1388376379096453121?s=21

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6. "RE: Some of y’all are way too trusting in white innocence "
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Not having heard anything about this thing before, that looks very strange and is worth discussion

>Gesture looks wild weird even given the context
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>Here’s the image:
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>https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Kelly_Donohue-e1619805106630.jpg
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>Like nobody does three as a bolo tie. It’s almost always
>that circle with the index and thumb while the other three
>fingers curl towards your face
>This man out here given himself carpal tunnel in the age of
>ironic nazis and for whatever reason y’all wanna argue for
>his benefit of the doubt.
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>It sure looks like he knows how to use his fingers correctly
>for 1 and 2 but suddenly three is wild alt righty.
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>https://twitter.com/kokomosal/status/1388376379096453121?s=21
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7. "I don’t even think it’s worth all that discussion "
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Dude claimed that’s not what he was flagging and deleted the Facebook post
Only he knows his motivation, personally, I don’t trust him, but that’s a me issue.
But I think it’s fair to acknowledge that people were offended by the optics and wanted clarification. I don’t think that’s a bridge too far.

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8. "Ur not wrong. He could have used his first three fingers and didn’t "
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Need to have it pressed up against his chest like that, like he did with 1 and 2. I think he knew exactly what the fuck he was doing. Racist ass

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9. "So does that work. His plan was to win the first two matches and "
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throw up the 1 and 2 so that when he wins for the 3rd time he can send a hidden racist symbol that, BTW, was in heavy use by everyone before the racist claimed it?


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10. "How does what work? White stupidity and opportunism?"
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You’re doing all the leg work for that man. I’ve seen people work on getting more baseball strike outs just so they could do funny shit with three K’s and go unnoticed.

I’m sure his goal was to make money off trivia. Everything else is a bonus. I look forward to upping this post when he’s on Fox News or Twitter within a year crying about cancel culture during his book deal tour.

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11. "i wonder how some of these folks function lol"
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12. "If he got to three, he wasn’t gonna let the opportunity pass. "
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He got to three wins and didn’t. The ground work was laid for an “excuse” by doing the one finger, 1st win, two fingers, second win gestures.

We can’t say for sure either way but I think it’s naive extremely hopeful to say this wasn’t the racist gesture that some think it is just becuz he did the one and the two fingers....if the three fingers had been the index, middle and ring and not pressed up against his chest like that, I would say it wasn’t intentional either. But
That shit looks suspect

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14. "lol yeah, i mean its not impossible"
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but the fact that nearly 500 former contestants signed on to this based on something that looks slightly odd, is hella extra. And counter productive for reasons you already mentioned.

i mean maybe we'll find out this guy is in fact a maga dirtbag, but as of now this shouldn't be any kind of story

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15. "The former contestant world is small enough "
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That they likely travel on the same internet circles doing trivia shit
There’s probably a lot more about this man they know than we do.


https://jboard.tv/viewtopic.php?p=354151#p354151

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16. "do you want him to be a nazi?"
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skimming that link you shared, it doesn't seem like anyone in it has any personal knowledge of him.

  

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17. "I don't think I could care less what he is"
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Dude aint Ken Jennings and this will be the highest visibility thing he does in his life.

What I do find strange is the folks in here, on here that are acting like the whole purpose of dog whistle racial gestures is not to spark these kinds of reactions and I question why.

If there's anything I do care about is that white people should have to be just as cautious about their appearances as society forces Black people to be.

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18. "fair enough"
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>What I do find strange is the folks in here, on here that are
>acting like the whole purpose of dog whistle racial gestures
>is not to spark these kinds of reactions and I question why.

I don't think anyone is really arguing that. more that there isn't any actual evidence that this *is* a dog whistle. and by feeding into it, it turns into a crying wolf situation when someone who intentionally flashes that sign gets lumped in.

Plus it's just a shitty thing to be accused of. Again it could turn out these accusations are warranted but at this point, i don't see him as any more a nazi than the contestants who signed that letter.

>If there's anything I do care about is that white people
>should have to be just as cautious about their appearances as
>society forces Black people to be.

fair point.

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28. "couldn't agree more"
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>If there's anything I do care about is that white people
>should have to be just as cautious about their appearances as
>society forces Black people to be.

  

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13. "it seems Trump has made everyone worse"
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except Joe Biden

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23. "NOPE. this is not a trump thing, Blame The Internet. "
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25. "internets are worse too"
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19. "damn, OKP ready to let dude off the hook like that?"
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my son had a friend do the same shit in a dance photo

they know wtf they doing

and like the contestants said, even if it wasnt it still should of been edited out

  

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20. "I figured it was a matter of time before something like this happened"
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During my game, I dropped a peace up, a town down during the intro:
https://twitter.com/jasonsdozier/status/1210213556152655872

While one of my opponents dropped one of these during his: https://i1.wp.com/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Nymeyer,_L._08_NCAA_1648.jpg

Jeopardy gives you a *lot* of rules about what you can and can not do during the game, so I've always thought this was a bit of a blind spot (which I absolutely took advantage of, clearly). But some of those rules are tied to concerns about the appearance of supporting white supremacy: you're not allowed to wager some obvious amounts like $69 or $666, but you're also not allowed to wager $14, $88, or $1488 because of they're all associated with the fourteen words slogan.

With *that* all said, Kelly's "I was just celebrating three wins defense" runs a bit flat considering this was his FB cover photo before he scrubbed it due to the controversy. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0LDygCXEAI_qx3?format=jpg&name=large

Do I think he's a white supremecist? Nah. Probably not. Do I think he's a troll that took advantage of his national platform and 5 seconds of fame? Absolutely. My gut feeling is that he thought he was being slick and didn't expect the massive blowback.

FWIW I was actually surprised to see how much the former Jeopardy contestant community rallied together around this. It's a surprisingly super progressive community that's centered around inclusiveness (this same group was one of the leads that pushed so hard for LeVar Burton to host, hopefully permanently), so this all definitely makes sense in that context.

At the end of the day, I'm sure this means the production team is going to crack down super hard on this going forward. So I guess I'm just glad I got a chance to put on for my city while I still had the opportunity.

Just my 2c

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26. "This is really interesting - thanks for sharing the insider perspective...."
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30. "thank you"
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21. "Of all the ppl who invaded the Capitol..."
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What percentage could get to three wins on jeopardy?

  

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22. "75 mill voted for Trump.. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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24. "what are you saying?"
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29. "as if only REAL white supremacists invaded the capital only"
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lol

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27. "the invention of dual symbolism in our modern times is genus levels shit"
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i'm never not amazed at....whatever the fuck this is when I see it. It's happening here.

It's when a some everyday act/word/symbol/statement is used to point to something devious and dark, but then the person who used the thing has every opportunity to deny the darker statement and lean back on the primary definition/associations of the object.

Then because the object (word, statement, symbol) is so ubiquitous it becomes a battleground for discussion in the culture war debates.

then, during the whole time, the person who first originally used the thing is able to keep both feet on two different islands of meaning. and it's done by simultaneously denying a second meaning while also positioning the dark statement as just joking/humor.


"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - the big trick in all of this, is that we're all trying to act as if these meanings and interactions are just one to one, IRL and completely ignoring the part of living in a world thats on the internet and that the meaning of things has splintered because the language of internet culture is appropriation - so things are appropriated to be given new meaning by groups.

Example:

https://youtu.be/vB-qWovaCLo

I genuinely like the beat for this because I'm hearing it from the hip hop, electronic music perspective.

Unfortunately, it's a nazi dogwhistle. Don't believe it? Breakdown here: https://youtu.be/cscP830j2KA?t=455

https://forward.com/fast-forward/423812/white-nationalist-clowns-honk-honkler/

But, then, the meaning of clown world can also mean anything not going right in the world like, "the US and it's government have fucked up their Covid response...what a clown world"


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31. "I’m shocked people in here don’t believe these folk are above trolli..."
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