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biden cant complete a thought and he's creepy with females of all ages. trump is an idiot and he's also a creep around women

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Bad president
or genocidal maniac

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Who'd a thought it would be this tough to convince a majority of democratic voters that Democrats are bad people.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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im done roasting bernie supporters.

we got bigger fish to fry.

those folks still showing up to vote couldn't be trump supporters.

it means something...

they anticipated absentee ballots being cast this entire week before the conservative court(s) stepped in and struck that part down. but they kept the week long gag rule in place.

the fact that those folks still went out has to mean something. I could be dreaming tho lol

i think everyone is pretty much flying blind at this point.

https://twitter.com/_shkurfrancis/status/1247941888642101248

“we gotta get them bastards out of office”

inspired...

Liberals won't fight fascism. You need a socialist if you want to win that one, and we just booted our most popular one.

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--Walleye's Dad

if after the damn virus hasn't laid bare the deep, structural problems in the country, if after the actions of Joe Biden himself in public forums (never mind outside) have not proven he is unwilling to address any of them

all I asked for is /someone/ who would go there and have a constituency large enough to run up the score to beat Donald Trump and voter suppression/disenfranchisement.

and the libs just tossed us the worst possible chance of doing that.

and this time around I've learned that so-called allies are as fake and duplicitous as they come.

and spend too much MOTHERFUCKIN TIME WHINING ABOUT GODDAMN SUPPORTERS when they asses are out there gaslighting people with media assists.

to them I say, go outside and play in a Florida nudist beach.

>and this time around I've learned that so-called allies are as
>fake and duplicitous as they come.

I spent a bunch of my life believing that moderate Democrats wanted the same thing as me, but they understood the necessary small steps of the political process and had a road map to get to the political outcomes that would secure stability and dignity for working people in this country. And now I just don't. There will always be another excuse, another political roadblock, another financial roadblock, even the fear of future roadblocks.

But there's no good way to argue "I don't believe you" - particularly since one of the reasons I don't believe Democrat politicians is due to the degree that they've alienated regular voters from political power. They've narrowed the sine qua non of political involvement into one simple act: voting - and particularly, voting for a set of candidates that emerge from extraordinarily limited backgrounds.

I *do* believe people here want the same things as me, but I don't believe that Joe Biden or basically anybody left of Elizabeth Warren does. I think their financial commitments make them corrupt and their comfort makes them lazy. Those people will never work for us, but yelling at people on okayplayer doesn't trickle up, so it doesn't really matter.

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Or even govern.
They are not an opposition party

Lot of conversation proceeding as though politics will be normal after this.

I don't think that's very likely, but whatever new axes on which we'll argue about politics haven't really been set yet. But talking about electoral politics was already kind of alienating and now it seems like we're alienated even from that. Feels like getting worked up about whether Sam and Dianne are ever going to get together.

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--Walleye's Dad

"I asked for is /someone/ who would go there and have a constituency large enough to run up the score to beat Donald Trump and voter suppression/disenfranchisement. and the libs just tossed us the worst possible chance of doing that."


really, what is the basis for thinking Bernie was the guy with the larger constituency when they did not turn out to vote for him?



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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

This grand coalition that would come out to defeat Donald Trump but this same coalition didn’t even materialize to beat Biden.

If people are saying Biden can’t defeat trump then how was Bernie going to defeat trump?

Bernie would get his people and the no matter what's.
But what that argument fails to capture is that there are a whole bunch of Never Bernie's out there who would vote for Biden.

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To support Bernie if Bernie won the primary but Bernie supporters don’t have to follow the idea of “vote blue no matter what” if Bernie doesn’t win the primary. Seems fair and about right to me for many of his supporters.

to concede parts of his agenda in order to keep biden voters in the fold? or would they just expect them to fall in line?

What's Biden's agenda?

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because you keep dismissing their democratic will and right to self determination.

for some reason you think black church grannies in sc, white working class voters in michigan, suburban soccer moms in va, and latinos in fl were all engaged in a cynical conspiracy to preserve their political power and rob bernie of the rightful nomination he was entitled to.

it couldnt possibly be that working class voters picked biden because they thought he was the better option right?

how come none of yall ever answer this question: why were *young* voters not inspired to come out in big numbers for sanders? they were actually a smaller percentage of voters even tho they made up a larger share of the electorate this year. are they part of the establishment too?


>What's Biden's agenda?

for starters...not dismantling obamacare. which is the biggest reason democrats won the 2018 midterms and a big part of why biden won the nomination in 2020. maybe theres a lesson there?

They followed the direction of their party leadership - and many votes on those lines - which is fine. But I'm not of the mindset to where you blame voters for exercising their right to vote for whomever they choose to vote for. I leave that blame-game to you.

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Ones eligible to be President?

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then what does that say?

he can't find *anyone* else to hold up the flag with him that's eligible?

or is it that he's run them all off so he can hold the flag himself?

or is he just so ineffective that he hasn't been able to build a coalition of followers, out of which an eligible candidate could emerge?

I really think people gotta look at the top and ask why there's just this guy

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The United States has devoted a lot of time, energy, and firepower to ensure that socialism doesn't have a strong foothold, either domestically or worldwide. It's pretty much the story of the second half of the twentieth century.

Sanders is a relic. A 60's style socialist. I wish that weren't the best we had, but there's not a deep bench of self-identified socialists running for major political office in the United States because of the way the last four or five decades have gone, not the last four or five years.

A non-violent revolution via electoral politics is going to take an extremely long time. A Sanders presidency was a chance to hit fast-forward on that movement, but it didn't work. Blessedly, our position appeals directly to human dignity and the rights of workers - things that people desperately want. Just have to keep at it.

edit: Fred Hampton would be 72 right now. Capital was smart, and tried to extinguish this movement at the root. It mostly worked.

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maybe it's true that there's no way for his politics to win or even manage to scrounge up one other suitable candidate.

but if it's true then why did bernie say he could win the primary? did he just not realize all these things were true?

and if he can't see that....is he a good candidate?



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Try to build power locally. Grow support for socialism by talking to people about it. Same stuff folks did before and during Bernie.

That's what I'm going to do.

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it's all up top where I got the questions

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to exert influence over the party platform

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Ill vote for Biden, Im not an idiot. But I will be shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU if he beats Trump. I don't think I can watch on election night.

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i don't feel the need to vote for Biden. Depends on his VP pick. I will probably write in my choice.

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it actually makes more of an impact if i don't vote with the Democratic candidate here. that's how the electoral college works.

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he's running against a guy who in the midst of a crisis is polling at 50% or so.

George Bush stood on top of a monument to his own failure as a president when he stood on the rubble of the twin towers, and got 90%.

I can't call it. I'm bummed it wasn't Bern, though. I appreciated his vision for the country way more than whatever Biden is offering. This feels like 2016 redeux. The ONLY reason I'll vote Biden is that if Trizzy gets two more Supreme Court noms it'll be an instant wrap for our country.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

no one is ready to carry Biden into the stadium...like he’s this great savior. Some of us just aren’t blinded by are emotions. trying to convince folks that (why) Biden can’t win is crazy talk and so sad. Our god damn freedom is on the line...

that shit pisses me off...

Please explain how it makes sense that Bernie can’t beat Biden in an election but could beat Trump?

I think Trump will make Biden look dumb. Is anyone actually EXCITED about Biden? To me, hes just there. He's just a guy thats not Donald Trump. Which is fine and all, but also just sad that this is the best we can hope for at this point.

As far as winning the election, I would have been shocked if Bernie won too. I think were fucked and I dont have much faith in this country anymore.

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After reading about trumps daily briefings and mishandling of this crisis, I don’t know how anyone wouldn’t be EXCITED that Biden isn’t trump.

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Or February

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Like sure elections matter
But there's a raging virus that's taking out people willy nilly, the government isn't doing anything to control it, arguably exacerbating it, oh and yesterday it came out that even though people are surviving they're not developing antibodies to it.

November is a whole 7 months away. The world has dramatically and permanently changed in just the last three weeks.

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>Like sure elections matter
>But there's a raging virus that's taking out people willy
>nilly, the government isn't doing anything to control it,
>arguably exacerbating it, oh and yesterday it came out that
>even though people are surviving they're not developing
>antibodies to it.

this is what im curious about. how does the virus impact people when they get it a second time? wether it hit them hard or they didnt even realize they had it before. does the virus hit you harder each time? what information is there on people getting it more than once?

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>November is a whole 7 months away. The world has dramatically
>and permanently changed in just the last three weeks.
i really cant bother thinking ahead to that. i hope the democrats push through some assurance that we will be able to vote by mail by then but im not going to count on it. how many people will still have jobs by then? how many people wont be alive? what rights will we lose? cant really imagine it right now.

45 will probably be reelected and will probably continue to do nothing about the 2nd surge of the virus that will come next winter.

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But don't ascribe normalcy to it. That's a death sentence.

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Is he consolidating power, purging the intelligence community and oversight? Yes.
All of the things of aspirational tyrannical control are there. No doubt.

But an UNCONTROLLED VIRUS THAT THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN IS SPREADING AROUND THE EARTH TAKING OUT POPULATIONS DESTROYING ECONOMIES AND EVEN HITTING WORLD LEADERS.

There's literally nothing normal about right now and nothing normal will possibly be able to come out of it.

Like you can’t even safely go to your grocery store right now without fear of death, but here you are thinking normal ass thoughts about what the world is going to be 7 months from now

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there have been pandemics before. life still went on for those living.

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The global economy relies on the movement of a global supply chain
Which has now been ground to a halt
The only way to get that going again is to exacerbate the pandemic

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/business/economy/global-trade-shortages-coronavirus.html

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COVID took over the world. The portion of my life I spend on politics is now devoted to trump vs the governors, trump vs the media and trump vs his own experts.

I don’t at all understand how trump’s approval rating is not nose diving though. He is completely unqualified and criminal in his misinformation

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