6. "RE: FBI and Police are implicated without being implicated" In response to Reply # 5 Thu Feb-13-20 08:09 AM by double 0
They LITERALLY defined cointelpro son. There was an entire segment on it when discussing sending correspondence to Elijah Muhammed's wife.
They also eluded to Bradley being "protected" and being a potential informant in the last episode. The entire reasoning for the FBI not sharing information with NYPD was based on this.
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12. "definitely could have been a tight 3 eps and out. " In response to Reply # 7
Good series. I learned a lot I didn't know.
Had no idea that Hayer had given up names as far back as the 70's. Never heard of the affidavits.
But a lot of the series was padded with Abdur-Rahman's personal journey with the subject and some basic facts about Malcolm that anyone interested in even watching this should already know. ______________________________________________________________________________
8. "On ep five now " In response to Reply # 0 Thu Feb-13-20 09:55 AM by Amritsar
I think he does a good job presenting both sides. We hear plenty from former NOI members. Some of them are obviously still fanatical
It was still pretty interesting to hear from guys like John Ali
I wanna learn more about the FBI’s infiltration of the Nation too. The doc mentioned that within THEM’s circle, they had several informants. Ali being the most prominent that I know of.
shotgun dude took it to his grave. I was a little frustrated that his friends would only acknowledge that he may have sought redemption. I still wonder if they knew, if he may have confessed to them. They seemed a little perturbed with the questioning...
16. "RE: when he was having breakfast with dude and his son..." In response to Reply # 15
>and the son had almost a smirk on his face like...they >convicted somebody, case is closed.
Messed me up, like, who cares that 2 of the 3 that went to jail were completely innocent.
Sad knowing that through out the civil rights movement, there were informants every where, whether King, X, Black Panthers; informants that were ranked high within these organizations. So it is very safe to say that the U.S. government dismantled the Civil Rights movement and neutralized it.
19. "Besides the nine that you referred to up there, I’d also heard..." In response to Reply # 17 Fri Feb-14-20 10:03 AM by Creole
Earlier the series that NOI had five informants in the top leadership up there with Muhammad.
They zoomed into one shot of those cats on stage, while referring to the five high level informants, and all I could focus on was a young Louis Farrakhan.
24. "I would’ve liked to hear more from Talmadge Hayer since he was..." In response to Reply # 0
the only one of the 5 assassins still living. He apparently gave a detailed account of what happened that day and who did what. But who came up with initial plot to kill Malcolm? Where specifically did it come from?
25. "True he is free as well" In response to Reply # 24
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I think Hayer is a stooge tho meaning he ain't have the intelligence to organize it and be a head man in the operation. Even his shots were inconsequential in the death of Malcolm.
26. "I don't think it was a "head man"" In response to Reply # 25
The plot was only intelligent cause it was successful. Nothing about running up in a crowded venue and murdering someone in broad daylight says intelligent. Had the FBI/NYPD actually wanted to prevent Malcolm's murder then that shit wouldn't have got off the ground. Worse case scenario all 5 of them dudes would have been caught.
Like dude said, Elijah could have made the call without really making it. Them dudes were so fanatical over him. And they weren't too far removed from street shit anyway.
It's unfortunate because neither Elijah or Malcolm could see the past their beef to see the good that both of them have done for their communities.
28. "The shotgun man was a head man 3 of the 5 assassins were " In response to Reply # 26
informants.
Hitman teams were all over. My pop was telling about how the NOI was talking about Malcolm in Philly in the early 1970s when he was FOI and the main enforcers were in Philly and Newark.
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