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"Netflix: Who Killed Malcolm X? "


          

Just finished it. It’s...a lot. Anyone watched, yet?

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watching now
Feb 08th 2020
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RE: Netflix: Who Killed Malcolm X?
Feb 09th 2020
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is it worth checking out?
Feb 09th 2020
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Money, racism, willful ignorance...
Feb 12th 2020
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FBI and Police are implicated without being implicated
Feb 12th 2020
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RE: FBI and Police are implicated without being implicated
Feb 13th 2020
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      My bad you right
Feb 13th 2020
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Jawn was like 4 episodes too long
Feb 13th 2020
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definitely could have been a tight 3 eps and out.
Feb 13th 2020
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On ep five now
Feb 13th 2020
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Yeah, man that’s wild to me...
Feb 13th 2020
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I watch the first 2 episodes, didn't really learn anything I didn't...
Feb 13th 2020
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stick with it, fam
Feb 13th 2020
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so interesting...
Feb 13th 2020
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when he was having breakfast with dude and his son...
Feb 13th 2020
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      RE: when he was having breakfast with dude and his son...
Feb 13th 2020
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      right...I mean I honestly had no idea...
Feb 14th 2020
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           Besides the nine that you referred to up there, I’d also heard...
Feb 14th 2020
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                RE: Besides the nine that you referred to up there, I’d also heard...
Feb 14th 2020
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      And the son was a cop in Orange, NJ.
Feb 14th 2020
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The way the media treated Mrs Shabazz was shameful.
Feb 14th 2020
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RE: The way the media treated Mrs Shabazz was shameful.
Feb 14th 2020
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fuckin badgered her.. that was awful to watch
Feb 15th 2020
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I watched the the week the boards had the Gayle King
Feb 17th 2020
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I would’ve liked to hear more from Talmadge Hayer since he was...
Feb 16th 2020
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True he is free as well
Feb 16th 2020
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      I don't think it was a "head man"
Feb 16th 2020
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           I think everybody was in on it. Somebody in the back yells...
Feb 16th 2020
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           The shotgun man was a head man 3 of the 5 assassins were
Feb 16th 2020
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SuiteLady
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1. "watching now"
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Musa
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2. "RE: Netflix: Who Killed Malcolm X? "
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3. "is it worth checking out?"
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4. "Money, racism, willful ignorance..."
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Corey Booker’s response stunned me. So much that I’m rewatching his segment in episode 5 once more as I make my way through to the end.

There’s so much more to what I’m thinking and feeling about it. Like Rahman said, “It’s sickening.”

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Musa
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5. "FBI and Police are implicated without being implicated"
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no mention of COINTELPRO either.

A brief touch on Malcolm becoming bigger outside of the nation but not what he was doing and why he was becoming more dangerous.

No mention of 3 of the 5 assassins being informants including the shotgun man.

With that said it is very well put together.

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6. "RE: FBI and Police are implicated without being implicated"
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Thu Feb-13-20 08:09 AM by double 0

          

They LITERALLY defined cointelpro son. There was an entire segment on it when discussing sending correspondence to Elijah Muhammed's wife.

They also eluded to Bradley being "protected" and being a potential informant in the last episode. The entire reasoning for the FBI not sharing information with NYPD was based on this.

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13. "My bad you right"
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7. "Jawn was like 4 episodes too long"
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Wasn’t really a mystery here

Could have wrapped this up in 2 eps

But hey...NY is considering re-opening the case

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/nation-world/netflix-documentary-could-trigger-new-malcolm-x-murder-investigation/67-0f65a24f-83de-4193-aeae-8545a88b454d

Would have been better if the focus was on how dude was able to hide in plain sight IMO.

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12. "definitely could have been a tight 3 eps and out. "
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Good series. I learned a lot I didn't know.

Had no idea that Hayer had given up names as far back as the 70's. Never heard of the affidavits.

But a lot of the series was padded with Abdur-Rahman's personal journey with the subject and some basic facts about Malcolm that anyone interested in even watching this should already know.
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8. "On ep five now "
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Thu Feb-13-20 09:55 AM by Amritsar

  

          

I think he does a good job presenting both sides. We hear plenty from former NOI members. Some of them are obviously still fanatical

It was still pretty interesting to hear from guys like John Ali


I wanna learn more about the FBI’s infiltration of the Nation too. The doc mentioned that within THEM’s circle, they had several informants. Ali being the most prominent that I know of.

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14. "Yeah, man that’s wild to me..."
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they said there were what, nine agents in the ballroom, that day?

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9. "I watch the first 2 episodes, didn't really learn anything I didn't..."
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already know but I will check out the rest.

I've been into Malcolm X since before Spike Lee made the movie and X hats became fashion statements so I was hoping for something new.

  

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10. "stick with it, fam"
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I consider myself an amateur historian on this subject


and have learned quite a bit (after episode 4)

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11. "so interesting..."
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shotgun dude took it to his grave. I was a little frustrated that his friends would only acknowledge that he may have sought redemption. I still wonder if they knew, if he may have confessed to them. They seemed a little perturbed with the questioning...

  

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15. "when he was having breakfast with dude and his son..."
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and the son had almost a smirk on his face like...they convicted somebody, case is closed.

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16. "RE: when he was having breakfast with dude and his son..."
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>and the son had almost a smirk on his face like...they
>convicted somebody, case is closed.

Messed me up, like, who cares that 2 of the 3 that went to jail were completely innocent.

Sad knowing that through out the civil rights movement, there were informants every where, whether King, X, Black Panthers; informants that were ranked high within these organizations. So it is very safe to say that the U.S. government dismantled the Civil Rights movement and neutralized it.

  

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17. "right...I mean I honestly had no idea..."
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it was that deep. Like...dude who gave him mouth to mouth after the shooting was a damn agent.

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19. "Besides the nine that you referred to up there, I’d also heard..."
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Fri Feb-14-20 10:03 AM by Creole

  

          

Earlier the series that NOI had five informants in the top leadership up there with Muhammad.

They zoomed into one shot of those cats on stage, while referring to the five high level informants, and all I could focus on was a young Louis Farrakhan.

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22. "RE: Besides the nine that you referred to up there, I’d also heard..."
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wow, I didn't catch him in the picture at all. interesting.

  

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18. "And the son was a cop in Orange, NJ."
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20. "The way the media treated Mrs Shabazz was shameful."
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n/m.

  

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21. "RE: The way the media treated Mrs Shabazz was shameful."
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I practically cried at that part. Mrs. Shabazz was so strong and held it together the best she could.

  

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23. "fuckin badgered her.. that was awful to watch"
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29. "I watched the the week the boards had the Gayle King"
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“was is right” post and I wanted to post in there about this - THAT wasn’t right.

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24. "I would’ve liked to hear more from Talmadge Hayer since he was..."
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the only one of the 5 assassins still living. He apparently gave a detailed account of what happened that day and who did what. But who came up with initial plot to kill Malcolm? Where specifically did it come from?

  

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25. "True he is free as well"
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I think Hayer is a stooge tho meaning he ain't have the intelligence to organize it and be a head man in the operation. Even his shots were inconsequential in the death of Malcolm.

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26. "I don't think it was a "head man""
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The plot was only intelligent cause it was successful. Nothing about running up in a crowded venue and murdering someone in broad daylight says intelligent. Had the FBI/NYPD actually wanted to prevent Malcolm's murder then that shit wouldn't have got off the ground. Worse case scenario all 5 of them dudes would have been caught.

Like dude said, Elijah could have made the call without really making it. Them dudes were so fanatical over him. And they weren't too far removed from street shit anyway.

It's unfortunate because neither Elijah or Malcolm could see the past their beef to see the good that both of them have done for their communities.



  

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27. "I think everybody was in on it. Somebody in the back yells..."
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“Get your hand out of my pocket!” and ALL of Malcolm’s security runs to the back and leave him unprotected?

  

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28. "The shotgun man was a head man 3 of the 5 assassins were "
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informants.

Hitman teams were all over. My pop was telling about how the NOI was talking about Malcolm in Philly in the early 1970s when he was FOI and the main enforcers were in Philly and Newark.

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