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Topic subjectNetflix: Who Killed Malcolm X?
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13365980, Netflix: Who Killed Malcolm X?
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Feb-08-20 05:52 PM
Just finished it. It’s...a lot. Anyone watched, yet?
13365983, watching now
Posted by SuiteLady, Sat Feb-08-20 06:27 PM
13366000, RE: Netflix: Who Killed Malcolm X?
Posted by Musa, Sun Feb-09-20 09:23 AM
13366007, is it worth checking out?
Posted by Nabs, Sun Feb-09-20 12:21 PM
13366927, Money, racism, willful ignorance...
Posted by Creole, Wed Feb-12-20 07:37 PM
Corey Booker’s response stunned me. So much that I’m rewatching his segment in episode 5 once more as I make my way through to the end.

There’s so much more to what I’m thinking and feeling about it. Like Rahman said, “It’s sickening.”
13366932, FBI and Police are implicated without being implicated
Posted by Musa, Wed Feb-12-20 07:53 PM
no mention of COINTELPRO either.

A brief touch on Malcolm becoming bigger outside of the nation but not what he was doing and why he was becoming more dangerous.

No mention of 3 of the 5 assassins being informants including the shotgun man.

With that said it is very well put together.
13366957, RE: FBI and Police are implicated without being implicated
Posted by double 0, Thu Feb-13-20 08:06 AM
They LITERALLY defined cointelpro son. There was an entire segment on it when discussing sending correspondence to Elijah Muhammed's wife.

They also eluded to Bradley being "protected" and being a potential informant in the last episode. The entire reasoning for the FBI not sharing information with NYPD was based on this.
13367065, My bad you right
Posted by Musa, Thu Feb-13-20 01:26 PM
13366961, Jawn was like 4 episodes too long
Posted by bentagain, Thu Feb-13-20 08:39 AM
Wasn’t really a mystery here

Could have wrapped this up in 2 eps

But hey...NY is considering re-opening the case

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/nation-world/netflix-documentary-could-trigger-new-malcolm-x-murder-investigation/67-0f65a24f-83de-4193-aeae-8545a88b454d

Would have been better if the focus was on how dude was able to hide in plain sight IMO.

13367025, definitely could have been a tight 3 eps and out.
Posted by WarriorPoet415, Thu Feb-13-20 12:17 PM
Good series. I learned a lot I didn't know.

Had no idea that Hayer had given up names as far back as the 70's. Never heard of the affidavits.

But a lot of the series was padded with Abdur-Rahman's personal journey with the subject and some basic facts about Malcolm that anyone interested in even watching this should already know.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.
13366968, On ep five now
Posted by Amritsar, Thu Feb-13-20 09:52 AM
I think he does a good job presenting both sides. We hear plenty from former NOI members. Some of them are obviously still fanatical

It was still pretty interesting to hear from guys like John Ali


I wanna learn more about the FBI’s infiltration of the Nation too. The doc mentioned that within THEM’s circle, they had several informants. Ali being the most prominent that I know of.
13367141, Yeah, man that’s wild to me...
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Feb-13-20 07:27 PM
they said there were what, nine agents in the ballroom, that day?
13367012, I watch the first 2 episodes, didn't really learn anything I didn't...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Feb-13-20 11:49 AM
already know but I will check out the rest.

I've been into Malcolm X since before Spike Lee made the movie and X hats became fashion statements so I was hoping for something new.
13367016, stick with it, fam
Posted by Amritsar, Thu Feb-13-20 11:58 AM
I consider myself an amateur historian on this subject


and have learned quite a bit (after episode 4)
13367020, so interesting...
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Feb-13-20 12:06 PM
shotgun dude took it to his grave. I was a little frustrated that his friends would only acknowledge that he may have sought redemption. I still wonder if they knew, if he may have confessed to them. They seemed a little perturbed with the questioning...
13367142, when he was having breakfast with dude and his son...
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Feb-13-20 07:29 PM
and the son had almost a smirk on his face like...they convicted somebody, case is closed.
13367164, RE: when he was having breakfast with dude and his son...
Posted by EAS, Thu Feb-13-20 11:56 PM
>and the son had almost a smirk on his face like...they
>convicted somebody, case is closed.

Messed me up, like, who cares that 2 of the 3 that went to jail were completely innocent.

Sad knowing that through out the civil rights movement, there were informants every where, whether King, X, Black Panthers; informants that were ranked high within these organizations. So it is very safe to say that the U.S. government dismantled the Civil Rights movement and neutralized it.
13367182, right...I mean I honestly had no idea...
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Feb-14-20 09:46 AM
it was that deep. Like...dude who gave him mouth to mouth after the shooting was a damn agent.
13367187, Besides the nine that you referred to up there, I’d also heard...
Posted by Creole, Fri Feb-14-20 10:03 AM
Earlier the series that NOI had five informants in the top leadership up there with Muhammad.

They zoomed into one shot of those cats on stage, while referring to the five high level informants, and all I could focus on was a young Louis Farrakhan.
13367235, RE: Besides the nine that you referred to up there, I’d also heard...
Posted by EAS, Fri Feb-14-20 02:57 PM
wow, I didn't catch him in the picture at all. interesting.
13367186, And the son was a cop in Orange, NJ.
Posted by Creole, Fri Feb-14-20 10:00 AM
13367221, The way the media treated Mrs Shabazz was shameful.
Posted by Pamalama, Fri Feb-14-20 12:26 PM
n/m.
13367232, RE: The way the media treated Mrs Shabazz was shameful.
Posted by EAS, Fri Feb-14-20 02:48 PM
I practically cried at that part. Mrs. Shabazz was so strong and held it together the best she could.
13367281, fuckin badgered her.. that was awful to watch
Posted by Amritsar, Sat Feb-15-20 07:12 AM
13367497, I watched the the week the boards had the Gayle King
Posted by SuiteLady, Mon Feb-17-20 11:36 PM
“was is right” post and I wanted to post in there about this - THAT wasn’t right.
13367345, I would’ve liked to hear more from Talmadge Hayer since he was...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Feb-16-20 06:50 AM
the only one of the 5 assassins still living. He apparently gave a detailed account of what happened that day and who did what. But who came up with initial plot to kill Malcolm? Where specifically did it come from?
13367347, True he is free as well
Posted by Musa, Sun Feb-16-20 08:40 AM
.

I think Hayer is a stooge tho meaning he ain't have the intelligence to organize it and be a head man in the operation. Even his shots were inconsequential in the death of Malcolm.
13367367, I don't think it was a "head man"
Posted by Mafamaticks, Sun Feb-16-20 01:18 PM
The plot was only intelligent cause it was successful. Nothing about running up in a crowded venue and murdering someone in broad daylight says intelligent. Had the FBI/NYPD actually wanted to prevent Malcolm's murder then that shit wouldn't have got off the ground. Worse case scenario all 5 of them dudes would have been caught.

Like dude said, Elijah could have made the call without really making it. Them dudes were so fanatical over him. And they weren't too far removed from street shit anyway.

It's unfortunate because neither Elijah or Malcolm could see the past their beef to see the good that both of them have done for their communities.



13367368, I think everybody was in on it. Somebody in the back yells...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Feb-16-20 01:28 PM
“Get your hand out of my pocket!” and ALL of Malcolm’s security runs to the back and leave him unprotected?
13369152, Listening to Nuri Muhammad on The Breakfast Club one thing...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Feb-26-20 07:52 PM
that he pointed out that wasn’t really talked about is the guy giving Malcolm mouth to mouth for a gunshot wound which makes no sense at all.
13369155, yeah, the agent...
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Feb-26-20 08:00 PM
and he even said in he doc, his handlers got pissed at him like...what you do that for?
13369157, mouth to mouth used to be an integral part of CPR
Posted by thegodcam, Wed Feb-26-20 08:48 PM
and giving CPR to a gunshot vicitm makes sense since the aim is to keep the blood running thru the body to keep organs and the brain alive
13367375, The shotgun man was a head man 3 of the 5 assassins were
Posted by Musa, Sun Feb-16-20 05:43 PM
informants.

Hitman teams were all over. My pop was telling about how the NOI was talking about Malcolm in Philly in the early 1970s when he was FOI and the main enforcers were in Philly and Newark.