3. "Depends. For who, and is money an object?" In response to Reply # 1
It's positioned as an entry level product, but it's functionally identical to the Live and X, particularly once you factor the software side of things. It's missing certain hardware elements that are now much more of a bonus than a necessity. Less outputs, smaller hard drive, etc.
The lack of RCA inputs is an issue if you're using turntables.
The fact that you get full standalone functionality in addition to the expanded functionality of a decent DAW makes it a great buy IMO.
But gear is a funny thing, because few things are all things for all people. These are instruments, and certain instruments will speak to your language in ways others don't, even if they more or less do the same things.
You also need to research current limitations, bugs, etc, because everything has some issues or drawbacks.
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11. "mainly just my recreational use" In response to Reply # 3 Thu Jan-16-20 11:39 AM by BrooklynWHAT
trying to pick up some more creative hobbies in 2020 and i did enjoy making beats back in college so i just want to give it a whirl again.
im absolutely an amateur so i'd probably be messing around in FL Studio to start with. not even sure where to begin w/ equipment. we used to do everything on an iMac back in college.
21. "if money isn't an object, l say get it. " In response to Reply # 11
Since this is more recreational, I'd say that the tactile experience of a legit hardware sampler/sequencer will give you more immediate gratification than clicking away in a DAW.
At a minimum, you'll still want a solid midi pad or keyboard controller.
The MPK minis are very popular, so that plus pretty much any DAW will suffice.
If budget isn't a big deal, there are a handful if options to consider, depending on what your willing to spend, many within this range.
2. "I’m still content with Maschine." In response to Reply # 0
Although, when I expand my living situation, I think I want an old school MPC or an ASR. I’m sure they get the job done, but these new MPC’s with all the colors look like toys.
I had an MPC2500 that I barely used which felt like sleeping in a garage with a new car you don’t drive.
25. "ASRs are dope, but make sure it has SCSI if you grab one" In response to Reply # 2
Whether the ASR 10 (keys) or the ASR X/Pro (sampler).
The alternative is the floppy drive, which is a major PITA nowadays. The drive on my ASR-X doesn't work, nor do the box of floppies I bought so I have to resample everything every time I turn the unit on. I just use it as an effects module now because of this (I have the X, which has some nice 90s on-board effects).
If I am gonna get an mpc I still want a 60, 60ii or 3k
Older ones are also just sexier tbh
But between push and maschine or even an akai controller and a daw it feels like a step backwards
Maschine is just so good at the integration
Also everytime I collab with someone with a new MPC it becomes so difficult to trade files
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8. "Holy shit we still making beats in 2020 i see" In response to Reply # 0 Thu Jan-16-20 09:52 AM by T Reynolds
I have had my MPC 2000 inactive for years and years.
More recently have strongly rekindled my decades long vinyl collecting habit and my boy I used to make music with is like 'how are you not making beats with these?!'
To me the collecting thing appears to be a separate part of the brain or something and I'm content with amassing without using to generate any output.
In the future, I do have a goal of putting mixes online that nobody will listen to but that's neither here nor there yet.
15. "I kind of want to do the opposite" In response to Reply # 8
I miss making beats but I'm good on hoarding records. The amount I spent and the space they took up...not interested anymore. I kind of want to just buy a stack of dollar bin records at a time to sample and trade them in for the next stack.
16. "Huh i feel you. Part of my new hoarding has also been getting" In response to Reply # 15
rid of dollar bin joints from the old beatmaking days.
I'm about to up my shelving unit since I'm at a place now where I'm not replacing old garbage with new pieces, so it's genuinely growing from now on, but if I was to start taking up a home studio my wife would trip lol
As far as beat making beats though yeah, that sounds like a good way to save space and keep things interesting
17. "RE: Holy shit we still making beats in 2020 i see" In response to Reply # 8
Of course....
But what is the point of this new one?
It cant sound/feel better than the 90s joints
Cant be easier than a computer daw
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18. "agreed. add to that, what's the point of a Toyota Yaris?" In response to Reply # 17
It doesn't get better mileage than a Prius. It doesn't have much room as a Sequoia.
And what's the point of these base model cars?
Those old stereo systems aren't as nice as the touch screens, and GPS systems are more convenient than systems that don't have GPS. Those stock systems aren't as nice a higher end BOSS system.
So why are they selling those base model cars?
I wear a size 11 shoe. What's the point of a size 8? It doesn't fit me.
I'm right there with you on this. I'm the only person that exists, or at least the only one that matters, and because of that, I'm completely mystified when companies create and sell products that aren't tailored to my specific needs, preferences and desires.
What's the point of something if I'm not the target market?
20. "Grooveboxes are popular now" In response to Reply # 17 Thu Jan-16-20 09:28 PM by hardware
and the OP-1 is too expensive
A lot of people are looking for that all in one box they can take anywhere, come back to the studio and dump the tracks into the daw and finish. People also want the tactile feel of knobs and pads that you can play like an instrument, get some muscle memory, play with other people, etc. Stuff you can't really do in a daw.
19. "it lacks an internal power source, but its plenty portable." In response to Reply # 14
I get your meaning though. You're not tapping out bangers at the beach with this, but you could setup shop at Starbucks without taking up half a table.
crate digging is still a thing but the landscape is such that its easier to flip a royalty free sample than have the algorithm sniff out your sample that wasn't quite flipped enough.
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