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81 DUN
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"Do you wanna see a Harriet Tubman bio pic? Janelle Monae"


  

          

Janelle Monae is rumored to have the lead role. Can’t say it enough that I’m tired of these limited movies they put us in. This year has been a little better but they still hit us over the head with “slave movies” and shit like Night School. More needs to be done.

  

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Cynthia Erivo is the lead role, not Janelle
Oct 02nd 2018
1
thank god.
Oct 02nd 2018
3
*sigh*. Ok, fuck it, take my money.
Oct 02nd 2018
2
I'd rather see an Assata Shakur flick, to be honest
Oct 03rd 2018
4
No.
Oct 03rd 2018
5
FTR; 81 DUN is NOT an alias of mine....
Oct 03rd 2018
6
yes...but not with who has been tapped to play Harriet
Oct 03rd 2018
7
Did anybody see Harriet this weekend?
Nov 02nd 2019
8
Apparently this joint is stirring up some controversy I guess
Nov 04th 2019
9
Yo they really got a big black villan named "Bigger Long"
Nov 12th 2019
10
I’ve read about this
Nov 12th 2019
11
this article gives a good/accurate description
Nov 12th 2019
12
RE: Yo they really got a big black villan named "Bigger Long"
Nov 12th 2019
13
      Is it really possible to not know the plot of this movie?
Nov 13th 2019
14
"No one is gonna know the difference"
Nov 20th 2019
15
This can't be real man. Julia Roberts as Harrier Tubman, and...
Nov 26th 2019
21
is this film worth seeing?
Nov 20th 2019
16
it is very "safe"
Nov 25th 2019
17
okay
Nov 25th 2019
18
My sister said it was a made for TV movie.
Nov 25th 2019
19
It looked like a Hallmark Mahogany Channel Movie of the Week
Nov 25th 2019
20

Danny
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1. "Cynthia Erivo is the lead role, not Janelle"
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http://www.vulture.com/2017/02/color-purples-cynthia-erivo-to-star-in-harriet-tubman-film.html

http://www.startower.co.uk
http://www.dannyswain.com

  

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3. "thank god."
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I like Janelle, but she's too light for the role.

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2. "*sigh*. Ok, fuck it, take my money. "
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im sick and tired of all black entertainment being based on The Struggle™

but thats history and telling stories that have not been told and for that I will be there to support.

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kevlar skully
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4. "I'd rather see an Assata Shakur flick, to be honest"
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Harriet is obviously super dope a worth her own movie or series even but I'm generally not excited about enslavement narratives. I'm sure 12 years a slave is a fine film but I'm not clamoring to watch it

  

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5. "No. "
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>Janelle Monae is rumored to have the lead role. Can’t say
>it enough that I’m tired of these limited movies they put us
>in. This year has been a little better but they still hit us
>over the head with “slave movies” and shit like Night
>School. More needs to be done.

Agreed.

  

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FLUIDJ
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6. "FTR; 81 DUN is NOT an alias of mine...."
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7. "yes...but not with who has been tapped to play Harriet"
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and it ain't Janelle lol

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8. "Did anybody see Harriet this weekend?"
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AtoZ 0toInfinity
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9. "Apparently this joint is stirring up some controversy I guess"
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First things first, I aint seen it ...
Can't tell if this is a case of
"We can't have nothing" or "They won't let us have nothin"


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https://newsone.com/3892189/harriet-movie-reviews/


he “Harriet” movie was widely released on Friday and it was meant to be a portrayal of Harriet Tubman‘s life as a runaway slave and trailblazer for freedom. However, the movie starring British actress Cynthia Erivo hadn’t been out a full day and people already said they have major critiques.

Tweets began surfacing slowly questioning what was called the movie’s historical inaccuracies. Sometimes that cinematic treatment can be expected for biopics, but people on social media who said they saw the movie complained that “Harriet” had scenes that were either white savior-like or overly sympathetic to white people.

For instance, one user wrote:

“Y’all. They really made up a Black man bounty hunter who almost kills Harriet Tubman in the movie. A White slavemaster kills this Black man to… protect Harriet. They completely made this sh** up out of thin air. DO NOT SUPPORT THE HARRIET MOVIE. Harriet’s first husband felt slighted at her quest for freedom. There were already complexities in her life with Black men. But to make up some bullsh** about a Black male bounty hunter in the 1800s? Who is killed by a White racist who is compelled to save Harriet? What the fu**?”

In early reviews of the film, publications like Shadow and Act confirmed the slave master killing scene and the distaste it caused.

“It’s Harriet’s former enslaver who has to (graphically) shoot the Black bounty hunter in the head to stop the bounty hunter from killing Harriet,” the website that is devoted to covering Black talent and entertainment across television, film and Broadway wrote earlier this week. “Sure, the enslaver has his own reasons for doing so that aren’t at all about keeping Harriet free, and sure, the enslaver was the sole reason the bounty hunter was hunting Harriet in the first place. Still, it is unsettling to watch this enslaver save Harriet’s life from a violent Black man.”

Despite the criticism, Black bounty hunters aren’t completely “made up.” A historian consultant for the film, Kate Clifford Larson, told USA Today that Black trackers really were active during slavery although in “much fewer” numbers than white slave hunters. She said that some free Black people couldn’t resist the money. She explained “you could buy a farm for $400 and feed your family and live a good enough life. All you’d have to do was go out and capture one or two runaway slaves and you were set. They were very uncommon but they did exist, and it was a problem for the community.”

Although Larson says Black bounty hunters were a reality, there’s still controversy as to whether Tubman was actually saved from a Black bounty hunter by her white slave master. Some people question if Tubman was ever chased by a Black bounty hunter at all. The Black American D.O.S. Caucus — a group dedicated to economic progress for Black American decedents of slaves — tweeted:

“‘Harriet’ has a black bounty hunter serving as the primary antagonist. We have been unable to locate such a figure in the historical record of Harriet’s life. Was this an attempt to shift blame for slavery? Please cite your sources @kasi_lemmons @focusfeatures @HarrietFilm.”

Along with the Black bounty hunter controversy, some folks also criticized a scene where Tubman has the opportunity to kill her former slave master, but she declines. Shadow and Act writer Brooke Obie, wrote:

“Soon after, the tables are turned and the gun is in Harriet’s hands and she has the choice to shoot or not shoot her former enslaver who is seeking to enslave, rape, kill or do all three to her and many others. She lets him go with Michelle Obama-like ease and rides off into the sunset, victorious and holy. Killing white supremacists on screen isn’t quite what this revolution movie is all about.”

Despite the content of the scenes, there are still some Black filmgoers who are supporting the movie. Film critic K. Austin Collins tweeted, “Anyone calling Harriet a white savior movie (especially based on a trailer; I wish we would stop doing that) is grossly mischaracterizing it. It is by Kasi Lemmons — director of Eve’s Bayou — and is as mystical and strange as that film was. Ignore viral tweets. See it for yourself.”

Another Black critic, Soraya Nadia McDonald, tweeted, “Harriet, for all of its faults, does NOT have a white savior. *sighs* Twitter is wild yo.”

This sounds like one of those situations where people will just have to decide for themselves.

  

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flipnile
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10. "Yo they really got a big black villan named "Bigger Long""
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Fuck this film. This is that bullshit. How they change history.

Perception == reality.







SMH @ "Bigger Long" too. Minus-well named him "BBC"

  

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legsdiamond
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11. "I’ve read about this"
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but also heard some people say it isn’t true.

If a big black bounty hunter is actually shot and killed by a slave master to save Harriet Tubman... smh.

shut up already, damn

  

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legsdiamond
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12. "this article gives a good/accurate description "
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/michaelblackmon/harriet-kasi-lemmons-criticism-white-savior

shut up already, damn

  

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13. "RE: Yo they really got a big black villan named "Bigger Long""
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>Fuck this film. This is that bullshit. How they change
>history.
>
THis is that bullshit!!!! cant even explain it to people without giving away a major plot point of the movie.

I swear we cant have nothing...


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legsdiamond
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14. "Is it really possible to not know the plot of this movie? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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15. ""No one is gonna know the difference""
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Damn thats F'd up but in a way its uncomfortable facts

Hollywood Exec pitched Julia Roberts to play Harriet Tubman. Obviously,
this never went through but the table has been set, it wont be long
till we get "The Last Nigga on Earth" played by Tom Hanks


https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/nov/20/studio-wanted-julia-roberts-to-play-harriet-tubman-cynthia-erivo

Julia Roberts and Cynthia Erivo, who plays Harriet Tubman in Harriet. Photograph: PA Wire/PA
The producer of a new biopic of the celebrated abolitionist Harriet Tubman has said that Julia Roberts was originally tipped to star.

In an official publicity Q&A to promote Harriet, which is released this month, the film’s screenwriter and producer, Gregory Allen Howard, said that when the film was in its planning stages 25 years earlier, “the climate in Hollywood … was very different”.

“I was told how one studio head said in a meeting, ‘This script is fantastic. Let’s get Julia Roberts to play Harriet Tubman,’” Allen explained. “When someone pointed out that Roberts couldn’t be Harriet, the executive responded, ‘It was so long ago. No one is going to know the difference.’”

Harriet review – Cynthia Erivo is sublime as legendary slave rebel
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According to reports in 2015, the film was once due to star Viola Davis, but now is winning Oscar buzz for Cynthia Erivo’s lead performance. Allen put its lengthy gestation down to the success of two game-changing films.

“When 12 Years a Slave became a hit and did a couple hundred million dollars worldwide, I told my agent, ‘You can’t say this kind of story won’t make money now.’ Then Black Panther really blew the doors open,” Allen said.

Roberts’s casting would have been perceived as grotesque even in 1994. Hollywood’s most notorious cases of blackface occurred more than 60 years ago, including John Wayne’s Genghis Khan, Mickey Rooney’s Japanese neighbour in Breakfast at Tiffany’s and Laurence Olivier’s Othello.

More recent casting decisions that have raised eyebrows were Christian Bale as Moses and Joel Edgerton as Ramses in the 2014 biblical epic Exodus: Gods and Kings, and Angelina Jolie darkening her skin and donning a curly wig to play the French-born, African-Chinese-Cuban-Dutch Mariane Pearl in A Mighty Heart in 2007.

  

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21. "This can't be real man. Julia Roberts as Harrier Tubman, and..."
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...it was so long ago that no one will know the difference.

>“I was told how one studio head said in a meeting, ‘This
>script is fantastic. Let’s get Julia Roberts to play Harriet
>Tubman,’” Allen explained. “When someone pointed out
>that Roberts couldn’t be Harriet, the executive responded,
>‘It was so long ago. No one is going to know the
>difference.’”


My girl told me years ago that Leonardo DiCaprio was gonna play Martin Luther King in a film, and I thought it was just a joke.

  

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16. "is this film worth seeing?"
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17. "it is very "safe""
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like middle school history assignment, paint by numbers script, "selma" type safe



the made-up black villain & black on black violence is a horrible/pointless addition to the story, and if the writers felt the need to be "creative", they coulda just as easily made harriet a superhero that scissorkicks slaveowners, instead of adding a black boogieman. but it begs the question on if them adding that character is what finally got the movie picked up by a studio.


if u are taking kids, and can break down the good and bad of the story that is shown afterwards, then it could be worth it for them

otherwise its just meh. history channel level



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18. "okay"
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i'll pass. i wanted something jarring/compelling...doesn't seem like this is it.

  

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legsdiamond
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19. "My sister said it was a made for TV movie. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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20. "It looked like a Hallmark Mahogany Channel Movie of the Week"
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Before the stuff about Bigger Long, I saw the trailer and was offended at the production quality. Absolute fucking shame

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