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"Poll question: What happens when Trump issues a pardon for himself? "


          

Choice 7: Hillary's Emails and, uh, Bengazi!!

I believe it will be "Republicans hold inconsequential hearings."

Republicans are traitors.

Poll result (9 votes)
Nothing (7 votes)Vote
Republicans hold inconsequential hearings (1 votes)Vote
Republicans actively rebel against Trump (1 votes)Vote
Republicans hold hearings that lead to articles of impeachment (0 votes)Vote
Trump is impeached but not removed office (0 votes)Vote
Trump is impeach and removed from office (0 votes)Vote

  

  

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Fake hearings sounds about right
Jul 21st 2017
1
i don't think they'd even hold hearings.
Jul 21st 2017
5
      it'll be the Senate intelligence committee
Jul 21st 2017
6
           hmm.
Jul 21st 2017
7
I voted green
Jul 21st 2017
2
at best a SCOTUS review.
Jul 21st 2017
3
nothing. same as the rest of the trump wave so far.
Jul 21st 2017
4
I think RICO laws can still be applied on a state level.
Jul 21st 2017
8
Assume the investigation takes another 14 months
Jul 21st 2017
9
Trump would have to pull off his mask and reveal he's Obama
Jul 21st 2017
10
Even then, the studio audience would just gasp and applaud.
Jul 24th 2017
14
Legally it makes no immediate difference, as far as I've heard.
Jul 21st 2017
11
I'd say that's about the time you start burning things.
Jul 24th 2017
12
After a pardon the 5th amendment will not apply anymore
Jul 24th 2017
13
They just gonna put the heart attack powder in his coffee if so
Jul 24th 2017
15

Mynoriti
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Fri Jul-21-17 02:41 PM

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1. "Fake hearings sounds about right "
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they specialize in those symbolic nothingburgers

like repealing obamacare over and over when it didn't matter

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HotThyng76
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Fri Jul-21-17 02:46 PM

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5. "i don't think they'd even hold hearings."
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Ryan and McConnell would get on TV and say there's nothing illegal or unconstitutional about a self-pardon.

maybe some committee would make noise. which one? for real, i don't know.

these wimps have turned a blind eye to everything he's done so far. i see them doing it again.


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Mynoriti
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Fri Jul-21-17 02:59 PM

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6. "it'll be the Senate intelligence committee "
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Like with comey.

Repubs will pretend to grill him while protecting him and making it about leaks or Hillary or a retracted story in the NY times

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HotThyng76
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7. "hmm."
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Bluebear
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Fri Jul-21-17 02:43 PM

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2. "I voted green"
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God, there have to be limits right? I know, I know...right?

  

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HotThyng76
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3. "at best a SCOTUS review."
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but...since the Constitution doesn't prohibit self-pardoning i don't see much happening.

most POTUSes wouldn't dare b/c they'd face a political reprisal. like an impeachment from a hostile Congress or losing a reelection bid. or hurting the rest of the party's down-ballot candidates. none of that shit applies to Trump or it doesn't bother him. he has violated so many political norms and gotten away w/it so far that it's like...'fuck it!'

but i think he CAN self-pardon and i'm not convinced anything will happen to him if he does. it definitely CAN but that doesn't mean it will.
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BrooklynWHAT
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Fri Jul-21-17 02:45 PM

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4. "nothing. same as the rest of the trump wave so far."
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just suck it up yall we're likely in for 3.5-7.5 more years of trump

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MEAT
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Fri Jul-21-17 03:17 PM

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8. "I think RICO laws can still be applied on a state level. "
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And they seem very likely and applicable for their issues in NY

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Kira
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Fri Jul-21-17 03:25 PM

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9. "Assume the investigation takes another 14 months"
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If Mueller is smart he'll wait until midterms to release the findings from the investigation. Tie Trump into Russia and force Republicans to come out against Trump or lose seats. If the Republican party toes the line then they lose enough seats for Dems to gain them. This in turn forces impeachment in time for the pardons to take place.

  

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IkeMoses
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Fri Jul-21-17 09:42 PM

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10. "Trump would have to pull off his mask and reveal he's Obama"
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for anything to happen to him at this point.

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squeeg
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14. "Even then, the studio audience would just gasp and applaud."
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stravinskian
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Fri Jul-21-17 09:55 PM

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11. "Legally it makes no immediate difference, as far as I've heard."
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Mueller would still be empowered to continue his investigation. A pardon wouldn't become relevant until they try to indict. At that point, the WH could refuse to appear in court, citing the pardon. Then Mueller personally has standing to sue again in federal court, and that case would quickly rise to be decided by the Supreme Court.

So in the end, yeah, nothing.

  

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TheAlbionist
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Mon Jul-24-17 07:17 AM

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12. "I'd say that's about the time you start burning things."
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>Choice 7: Hillary's Emails and, uh, Bengazi!!
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>I believe it will be "Republicans hold inconsequential
>hearings."
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>Republicans are traitors.

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Cam
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Mon Jul-24-17 02:04 PM

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13. "After a pardon the 5th amendment will not apply anymore"
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So, I imagine they'd trot him/them out for ongoing inquiries, to find out honest details...for years.

  

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flipnile
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Mon Jul-24-17 02:32 PM

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15. "They just gonna put the heart attack powder in his coffee if so"
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