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Heinz
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"These idiots kidnapped a special needs kid and tortured him live on FB"
Wed Jan-04-17 09:53 PM by Heinz

  

          

Fucking idiots. I won't be surprised if some stupid Trump supporter is gonna do the same now. I say that because they kept saying Fuck Donald Trump to the kid...smh

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/us/chicago-facebook-live-beating/index.html

  

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They're already talking about a march on Chicago up at St*rmfr*nt. nm
Jan 04th 2017
1
on behalf of all Chicagoans: "Try that shit if ya'll want to..."
Jan 05th 2017
17
Suddenly conservatives believe in racism when there's a white victim
Jan 04th 2017
2
christ how fucking dumb are they
Jan 04th 2017
3
Meanwhile a black special needs victim can be raped with a coat hanger
Jan 05th 2017
4
O_O
Jan 05th 2017
11
bruh.. shit is blatant as hell
Jan 05th 2017
12
And they label this BLMKidnapping, yet has nothing to do with BLM?
Jan 05th 2017
5
But they black
Jan 05th 2017
6
Once again the mumble mouths have screwed us over.
Jan 05th 2017
7
What in the entire fuck...
Jan 05th 2017
8
Its so disturbing
Jan 05th 2017
9
Idiots
Jan 05th 2017
10
dark forces at work in this world
Jan 05th 2017
13
shit is disgusting
Jan 05th 2017
14
Are they idiots or evil?
Jan 05th 2017
15
i'm hoping that GD has enough sense to feel both.
Jan 05th 2017
20
exactly
Jan 05th 2017
25
Cmon man... you know damn well no one condones this crime
Jan 05th 2017
24
      Right... let's be real: crazy shit like this happens all the time
Jan 05th 2017
28
      Facebook Live. Weeding out the stupid since 2016.
Jan 05th 2017
29
           Social media in general has been a gift to law enforcement.
Jan 05th 2017
32
                The Mannequin Challenge with real guns. *smh*
Jan 05th 2017
34
      Except Don Lemon, apparently
Jan 05th 2017
35
      Don Lemon, must think he's a Lame Duck or sumshit...
Jan 05th 2017
36
      There are at least 2 okayplayers who probably would condone it.
Jan 05th 2017
38
           Only because they're Black and unfairly singled out.
Jan 05th 2017
40
Under.The.Fucking.Jail.
Jan 05th 2017
16
It's too bad there are scenarios like this that have been fabricated
Jan 05th 2017
18
not to be That Guy, but I kinda agree with you on this one.
Jan 05th 2017
19
For an hour last night, I was convinced it was a hoax
Jan 05th 2017
21
Yep. see post #19. He was at "The Spot".
Jan 05th 2017
22
mm hmmm. nm
Jan 05th 2017
27
Nothing can be trusted about this and certainly not the CPD
Jan 05th 2017
23
Hmm... you could be right.
Jan 05th 2017
26
*Gets in this line..*
Jan 05th 2017
39
I am skeptical about this. even with the video.
Jan 05th 2017
30
^^^^
Jan 05th 2017
31
out here white people with mental needs got black caretakers for days
Jan 05th 2017
33
Regarding their age:
Jan 05th 2017
37
Turns out they were schoolmates...
Jan 06th 2017
41
and then how does it escalate to that poin?. I know kids are dumb
Jan 06th 2017
43
It adds up for me, to be honest
Jan 06th 2017
45
      the article mentioned "pretend fighting"
Jan 06th 2017
48
           Yup. nm
Jan 06th 2017
51
Initial reports said one of them went to school with him
Jan 06th 2017
44
      so then the other kid is 'mentally challenged' TOO, then right?
Jan 06th 2017
49
           The first filming it did seem 'slow' to me. nm
Jan 06th 2017
50
           RE: The first filming it did seem 'slow' to me. nm
Jan 06th 2017
69
           I mean... 2 of them looked a little challenged in the photo
Jan 06th 2017
66
                Basically, all except the older girl could pass for short bus riders.
Jan 06th 2017
70
                     haha, i didn't wanna say it, but yeah.
Jan 06th 2017
72
yeah, seems fishy
Jan 06th 2017
42
turns out it was.
Jan 06th 2017
56
I will say that I think this story is being framed a certain way to fit
Jan 06th 2017
46
      Oh of course.
Jan 06th 2017
47
Gotta hear both sides
Jan 06th 2017
52
I hate to say this but black parenting is at an all time low
Jan 06th 2017
53
and here comes the bullshit...
Jan 06th 2017
55
Church going, smart kid (c) Dylan Roof's stepmom
Jan 06th 2017
57
say word.
Jan 06th 2017
59
as I said, white parents often have no excuse to not be knowledgeable
Jan 06th 2017
61
      that *is* possible, you know...
Jan 06th 2017
63
      The handful of felonies I committed before graduating HS, but never
Jan 06th 2017
65
      YEP...We're basically saying the same shit.
Jan 06th 2017
67
      man a lot of behavior my folks definitely don't know
Jan 06th 2017
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No... nope... nah... white kids terrorize their parents bruh
Jan 06th 2017
68
if black parenting is at a low then white parenting is even lower
Jan 06th 2017
75
      Oh come on....lol
Jan 06th 2017
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      don't most of Americas notorious evil doers have white parents?
Jan 06th 2017
77
      very true
Jan 06th 2017
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Special Needs = the kid had a learning disability.
Jan 06th 2017
54
^Wow
Jan 06th 2017
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      that's not what I'm saying. Don't take it there.
Jan 06th 2017
60
           You really want to say that
Jan 06th 2017
62
                duly noted. My point is *this* though.
Jan 06th 2017
64
                Word. I gotchu.
Jan 06th 2017
73
                Girls were notorious for this shit a few years back
Jan 06th 2017
71

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1. "They're already talking about a march on Chicago up at St*rmfr*nt. nm"
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17. "on behalf of all Chicagoans: "Try that shit if ya'll want to...""
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2. "Suddenly conservatives believe in racism when there's a white victim "
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3. "christ how fucking dumb are they"
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4. "Meanwhile a black special needs victim can be raped with a coat hanger"
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And his assailants are neither charged with sexual assault nor a hate crime?

We'll see if the attackers in this case avoid jail-time too...

  

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11. "O_O"
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12. "bruh.. shit is blatant as hell"
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5. "And they label this BLMKidnapping, yet has nothing to do with BLM?"
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6. "But they black"
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7. "Once again the mumble mouths have screwed us over. "
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8. "What in the entire fuck..."
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9. "Its so disturbing"
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That any human would want to do this type of thing to another.

Like the thought of laughing and joking while this is going on is sickening to me.

Recording yourself live on facebook, under your own profile? Idiots!

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10. "Idiots"
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13. "dark forces at work in this world "
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15. "Are they idiots or evil?"
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This post seems weird to me because the emphasis seems to be on the stupidity of facebook live streaming their crime versus the heinous nature of the crime.


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20. "i'm hoping that GD has enough sense to feel both."
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it's always idiotic to film a crime.

the crime itself is pure evil.

  

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25. "exactly"
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There is no excuse for this

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28. "Right... let's be real: crazy shit like this happens all the time"
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What makes this incident particularly shocking IS the fact that they chose to stream it. For more reasons than one.

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29. "Facebook Live. Weeding out the stupid since 2016."
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>What makes this incident particularly shocking IS the fact
>that they chose to stream it. For more reasons than one.

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34. "The Mannequin Challenge with real guns. *smh*"
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Can people be THIS stupid?


( I already know the answer...)

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http://www.mediaite.com/online/cnns-don-lemon-hesitates-to-call-chicago-torture-video-evil-blames-bad-parenting-instead/

  

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36. " Don Lemon, must think he's a Lame Duck or sumshit..."
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he's been in "whatthefuckever" mode the last few weeks.


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40. "Only because they're Black and unfairly singled out."
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16. "Under.The.Fucking.Jail."
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18. "It's too bad there are scenarios like this that have been fabricated "
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the crime is certainly heinous, but can we trust our eyes on this one?

  

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19. "not to be That Guy, but I kinda agree with you on this one."
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first of all, this happened in an area well known for drugs, so it's kinda odd for a white kid to just be over there walking around. Suburbanites have been getting busted by the police for buying over there for YEARS ( why? Because they stick out like sore thumbs).

So I'm hearing that this might've been about that kid being with somebody who was over there "messing with those folks money", and caught a bad one.


Not saying it's right or justifiable, but yeah. I don't think they randomly grabbed some poor kid off the streets. There's more to this story than they're reporting.

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21. "For an hour last night, I was convinced it was a hoax"
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It just seems such an on-the-nose fantasy of what a negrophobic white person would imagine black people wanna do to them. The torture, the "fuck Trump, fuck white people"... the baffling decision to livestream it...

But CPD says it's real.

Some folks were saying he might have tried to steal weed from them or something. And he wasnt some random victim... He had a previous relationship with one or more of the attackers.

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22. "Yep. see post #19. He was at "The Spot"."
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>But CPD says it's real.
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>Some folks were saying he might have tried to steal weed from
>them or something. And he wasnt some random victim... He had a
>previous relationship with one or more of the attackers.


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27. "mm hmmm. nm"
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23. "Nothing can be trusted about this and certainly not the CPD"
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after they got lit up with that report especially

  

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26. "Hmm... you could be right. "
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39. "*Gets in this line..*"
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30. "I am skeptical about this. even with the video."
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after all, if white folks can pretty much Cuban B video evidence of police officers shooting and assaulting people that do not pose a threat, I'm entitled.

I would have not thought a thing about this except for the "fuck Donald Trump, fuck white people" shit

these kids are a little too young for that kind of broad brushstroke

and the whole situation sounds weird as fuck. why in Chicago is someone going to take a special needs kid (as reported) to the hood to do this shit? ransom? wasn't anyone looking for him?

shit is too damn convenient and plays into THEIR hands too much

so yeah. I'm gonna wait for some more facts to drop

this smells like some white Brawley shit

  

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31. "^^^^"
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33. "out here white people with mental needs got black caretakers for days "
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we saw the model in Florida with that care taker that got shot and I doubt it's any different in Chicago

  

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37. "Regarding their age:"
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https://youtu.be/DaHva2zvnSk

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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41. "Turns out they were schoolmates..."
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who'd spent two days together. So much for the 'kidnapping' angle. I KNEW this shit didn't add up.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Police-Beating-on-Video-Began-After-Friendly-Encounter-409874555.html

"The two 18-year-olds had been schoolmates, police say. After meeting at McDonald's, they spent two days together, driving around visiting friends. Then a pretend fight between them escalated into a brutal beating of a mentally disabled teenager that has stirred racial tensions and outrage after being broadcast on Facebook Live."

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43. "and then how does it escalate to that poin?. I know kids are dumb"
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and things can spiral out of control but what was the basis behind the initial "let's tie this guy up" thinking?

Play fighting to torture snuff film doesn't add up

  

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45. "It adds up for me, to be honest"
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As soon as I saw it, the first thing I thought was that it was a bunch of friends fucking around.

I know it's extreme as fuck but when I think of some of the crazy shit my "friends" did to me in high school.... I'm not surprised.

It's the fact that they broadcast it to the world that really changes everything, and makes it much worse.

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48. "the article mentioned "pretend fighting""
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and we all know how much dumb shit can come from 'slap boxing'.

There was a girl there, so somebody got slapped in front of the girls and got butthurt. That's usually all it takes.


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51. "Yup. nm"
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44. "Initial reports said one of them went to school with him "
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49. "so then the other kid is 'mentally challenged' TOO, then right?"
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let's be fair about it.


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50. "The first filming it did seem 'slow' to me. nm"
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69. "RE: The first filming it did seem 'slow' to me. nm"
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ugh.... autocorrect: The GIRL filming it did seem 'slow' to me

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66. "I mean... 2 of them looked a little challenged in the photo"
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Maybe she was high or sleepy but that one girl didn't look right to me.

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70. "Basically, all except the older girl could pass for short bus riders."
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72. "haha, i didn't wanna say it, but yeah."
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42. "yeah, seems fishy"
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56. "turns out it was."
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46. "I will say that I think this story is being framed a certain way to fit"
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a certain narrative.

Even with the video no one will convince me that this was motivated by a hatred of donald trump.

Doesn't make the act any less vile if it appears to be what it is on it's face, but I think there is more to the story than what they are selling.


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47. "Oh of course. "
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I seriously doubt that anybody in that video voted in the last election lol

And yes, this whole thing is being framed a certain way... but unfortunately, the kids gave them the ammo. If only they had not said what they did about Trump and white people and everything else in the video stayed exactly the same.... this would have been a non-story.

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52. "Gotta hear both sides"
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53. "I hate to say this but black parenting is at an all time low "
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The one constant that the news panders is these quotes from the parents like 'I had no idea about this side of my child'

White parents do that and have literally no excuse because their children are more often raised in safer neighborhoods

Black children are often born into bad culture, we as parents have to do better to shield our children from such.

Too often back parents respond to their child's actions as if their child has never been "bad" a day in their life. When its just not true.

  

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55. "and here comes the bullshit..."
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>The one constant that the news panders is these quotes from
>the parents like 'I had no idea about this side of my child'

why is that so unreasonable? How many people are gonna say "my kid is the spawn of Satan. Lock him up!!!"


>
>White parents do that and have literally no excuse because
>their children are more often raised in safer neighborhoods

not sure what that means...


>
>Black children are often born into bad culture, we as parents
>have to do better to shield our children from such.

Agreed.

>
>Too often back parents respond to their child's actions as if
>their child has never been "bad" a day in their life. When its
>just not true.


Also true.

BUT, the facts in this case are slowly coming out.

The kids were classmates, and knew each other ( apparently they frequently smoked weed together)

The suburban kid's parents agreed to a sleepover ( the kids involved all lied to their parents; there WAS no sleepover)

The kid's parents dropped him off at a random location to meet his friends ( didn't ask to meet the other kid's parents or anything)

The kids all rode around together in a stolen van for TWO Days, kickin' it. (why weren't his parents looking for him?)

and the "special needs" kid had a learning disability. As did the other kid too, I'd guess, since they were classmates.


It's all fucked up, but I'm sick of these kids being demonized when ALL these kids were doing some shit they had NO business doing in the first place, and it escalated.

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57. "Church going, smart kid (c) Dylan Roof's stepmom"
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3132886/Woman-raised-accused-Charleston-shooter-Dylann-Roof-says-led-astray-Internet-evil.html

"the Roof family are in shock as they thought that Dylann was just a 'lazy, this generation kind of kid'"

c'mon

so many stories to counter whatever you're trying to imply

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59. "say word."
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>c'mon
>
>so many stories to counter whatever you're trying to imply


seriously.

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61. "as I said, white parents often have no excuse to not be knowledgeable "
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black parents often work more hours or have other constraints, Im not even saying that these kids are demons, but its your CHILD, they NEVER displayed any of this behavior?

EVER?

  

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63. "that *is* possible, you know..."
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>black parents often work more hours or have other
>constraints, Im not even saying that these kids are demons,
>but its your CHILD, they NEVER displayed any of this
>behavior?
>

you never did sneaky shit as a teenager?

>EVER?
>

I was a good student, a good kid by ALL accounts. Every now and then I got into shit I had no business doing. It happens. That's what teenagers do.


Do they all become psychopathic killers? No. BUT you can raise a decent kid who follows other kids off into doing bad shit. I have nephews. They do shit when I'm not around, I'm SURE of it. Just because they do 'show' it, doesn't mean they don't do shit.

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65. "The handful of felonies I committed before graduating HS, but never"
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got caught for lead me to answer your question with a resounding

YES

kids do dumb shit

and I'd venture to disregard the environment you're born into

peer pressure is a MFer

I actually think the kids you're describing of being born into 'bad' environments

actually have an advantage when it comes to things not to do

being they are surrounded with first hand examples

and just off the top are exposed to things that Joey and Becky might not even know about in the suburbs.

making this a black parent issue is very ignorant, IMO.

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67. "YEP...We're basically saying the same shit. "
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>got caught for lead me to answer your question with a
>resounding
>
>YES
>
>kids do dumb shit

PERIOD.


>
>and I'd venture to disregard the environment you're born into
>
>peer pressure is a MFer

Say it again.


>
>I actually think the kids you're describing of being born into
>'bad' environments
>
>actually have an advantage when it comes to things not to do
>
>being they are surrounded with first hand examples
>
>and just off the top are exposed to things that Joey and Becky
>might not even know about in the suburbs.

^^^ ALL of this ^^^

>
>making this a black parent issue is very ignorant, IMO.

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74. "man a lot of behavior my folks definitely don't know "
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and would be rightfully astonished.

  

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68. "No... nope... nah... white kids terrorize their parents bruh"
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Black kids usually act good at home and wild on in the streets.

White kids tho, most of them will curse their mom out quick as shit. They know and they still make excuses.

This isn't a black parenting issue. We just see more black parents because they news ain't shit.

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75. "if black parenting is at a low then white parenting is even lower"
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they are the ones who raised slave owners, klansmen, and corrupt cops

  

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76. "Oh come on....lol"
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77. "don't most of Americas notorious evil doers have white parents?"
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78. "very true"
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not sure how/why people forget this

  

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54. "Special Needs = the kid had a learning disability."
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the details are coming out. This was some bullshit...


a bunch of bad ass kids ( him too ) getting into all kindsa dumb shit and it went horribly awry.

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58. "^Wow"
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Not like this.

  

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60. "that's not what I'm saying. Don't take it there."
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What I'm saying is, the reports make it seem like they lured a kid with severe retardation into a house and shit. They were classmates, who frequently smoked weed together. Regular kids with problems at school.


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62. "You really want to say that"
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some people who filmed themselves as they beat and tortured a dude (former friend or not), while making racial taunts, are just "regular kids with problems"?

Would this be your reaction in other similar situations involving, oh say for example, white people torturing black folks while making racial taunts? Assume for the sake of consistency that the black torture victims in question had formerly been "friends" with their attackers.

  

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64. "duly noted. My point is *this* though."
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>some people who filmed themselves as they beat and tortured a
>dude (former friend or not), while making racial taunts, are
>just "regular kids with problems"?
>


I'm here in Chicago where this shit went down. And the way it's being told is like they rolled up on a kid who was severely disabled, shoved him into a van and beat on him for entertainment. That's simply not true. You got people out here clamoring for these kids to get the death penalty, man. C'mon.


>Would this be your reaction in other similar situations
>involving, oh say for example, white people torturing black
>folks while making racial taunts? Assume for the sake of
>consistency that the black torture victims in question had
>formerly been "friends" with their attackers.
>

They should ABSOLUTLELY be punished. This shit was wrong, plain and simple. But I'm hoping they get a fair trial, not convicted in the media.

That's all I'm saying. My words were harsh. I'll admit that.


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73. "Word. I gotchu."
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71. "Girls were notorious for this shit a few years back"
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Seemed like it was mostly white girls too. Lure a friend over, lock he door then beat her ass and laugh while she begged them to let her go...

It was all the rage when camera phones started having video.

I bet money one of the girls filmed it.

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