Seems like a message to Ye to me....what y'all think?

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=qm7q6MQufwc

You stay classy okayplayer!!

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Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

knockoff albums 10 years into his career. nice.

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haha

i'm just fuckin' with you, but still don't get the Cole hate. At all.

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simply by virtue of not being stuck under a 2" layer of dust.

anyway i simply find cole mediocre and boring. thats the worst thing you can be to me as an entertainer. C- bars. C- beats on a good day. creatively stagnant. i don't fuck w/ him musically. as a person more power to him tho.

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Hahaha

This opinion, along with your taste in music is hilarious.

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is how many ppl on this forum listening to music through gritted teeth cause they know it's fire despite how much they hate the person.

but that's none of my business.

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not that i wouldn't enjoy it. if i do hear something i like then i like it. i just don't have the time or luxury to listen and download etc nearly as much as i used to, so i'll give you that.

i rarely hate on new music because i haven't listened to it to even really have an opinion.

i still don't get the Cole hate, but do ya thing playboy.

Some of the shit y'all post up that's new is trash...

really awful

Hot trash.

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can't even understand what most of the rappers you listen to are saying (which aint shit even if you could), but Cole go C- bars.

fam.....

Nigga said C bars then will post up some mumble shit talking bout BARS

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>can't even understand what most of the rappers you listen to
>are saying (which aint shit even if you could)

"i don't understand it but it's probably trash"

what? goddamn y'all are some willfully obtuse biased folk

.you have the absolute worst musical taste around here... Big_Kuntry is fkng motzart compared to you

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it's been stated so many fucking times, how does one keep denying it. lololol

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IRL and on any other forum i post on i'm known for having immaculate taste. so OKP is the odd one out here.

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i would wager. you are a younger dude and i get that the younger cats love this new stuff...its whatever. but there are older folks around here who think differently, and thats ok too. you gotta remember, this is a ROOTS afiliated site...that should help u to understand the reference point of some of the opinions around here.

thx

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lol @ immaculate taste. even in the lesson it's common knowledge you eat trash for breakfast.

he said everywhere i go people tell me, immaculate immaculate they say


Very good taste in music, the best.

like your god Ye

Maybe because early on coles steez waaaay
To much like his the whole left home
To make beats for Hov Shit it felt like college dropout
Or maybe because coles first single was
Based off a song on college dropout
that album inspired a bunch of niggas

I like this song

Cole is cool with me. Sometimes he gets
Stagnant but he's not over the top with all of the
Silly ass voice inflections and all of the
Extracurriculars.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

the title of the video says it's a Kanye diss track, but I don't think he's going at Ye at all. not sure if Ye would agree.
good song.

if not ye then who?

Jeru?

I just don't think it's a diss per se. he's expressing how he feels, which is how a lot of people feel. the whole "I miss the old Ye" is a common thought that we've all said. it's not like he's saying something groundbreaking. it's just that he put it in a song.

not on some fuck you but more like "now that I met you I don't really fuck with you"

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thats it



if you don't like this you probably enjoy getting pegged by your girl

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only two that matter

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that slipped thru the cracks

I been said Cole is nicer

But nyggas buying into that twitter bullshyt calling him boring

Bar for bar he Killin Kenny

And it's not even close

Don't call me a hater either

I moved Kenny past Drake after their last albums and imma keep him there till Drake stop this wave riding bullshyt and get back to being Drake for a whole album

>But nyggas buying into that twitter bullshyt calling him
>boring

And I reached that conclusion independently. I assume many others did too, then it became internet fodder because people wanted to express the widely-held opinion that his music is boring.

The dude can rap his ASS off. Mega talented. But his music is sleepy as fuck and always has been.

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your point is??

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Theres tons of artists selling more than people in the past, doing more shows, making more money, etc but in the bigger picture of industry impact they don't mean shit. Look at Logic. Dude has a solid solid following. Sells out shows. Sometimes does back to back shows in cities when he sells out. The impact on the music industry he has is minor.

Canibus and Cole comparsion based on stricly skills Cole is just the better artist. Canibus' got in his own way trying to be too complex and lyrical. Didn't really learn how to write songs just bars. So yea give that to Cole because he was more of an artist.

It has nothing to do with era's.

Some rappers are dope as shit live and grind it out with tours. Others sell records but have shitty live shows.

but to be able to have bars, craft songs, produce and go play without a guest artsist? Man... that's rare as hell.

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that excites you...

your point is??

might not be up to your standards...but he sold records

>I been said Cole is nicer
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>But nyggas buying into that twitter bullshyt calling him
>boring
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>Bar for bar he Killin Kenny
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>And it's not even close
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I'm a big K dot fan but this is so true. Kendrick gets a pass sometimes for his lyrics



>Don't call me a hater either
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>I moved Kenny past Drake after their last albums and imma keep
>him there till Drake stop this wave riding bullshyt and get
>back to being Drake for a whole album

and he keeps getting better as a rapper.
He's also still very humble, so ionno
how anyone could think this is about
Kendrick... plus him and Cole still
talking about a collaboration project
last I heard.

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sounds more like someone on J Cole's Dreamville label (Cozz, Bas, etc.)

And shit he and Cole dig a joint for Attention Deficit.

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And between this track and Everybody Gotta Die, I think this might be Cole's best project. I've been lukewarm on his past work, but this shit is actually sounding really good to me.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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as to connect to the theme of the video, everyday folk

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Pretty sure he purposely color corrected that way

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Wonder if the production on the rest of the album will be in this vein. I think it's cool that J Cole is at a place where he can release music without much advance notice, or concern with radio/club play. Regardless of how folks may feel about his product, that's a pretty noteworthy position to be in for a major label rap artist.

>Wonder if the production on the rest of the album will be in
>this vein. I think it's cool that J Cole is at a place where
>he can release music without much advance notice, or concern
>with radio/club play. Regardless of how folks may feel about
>his product, that's a pretty noteworthy position to be in for
>a major label rap artist.

This is why I wish I liked his music more. He's releasing music he wants to release on his terms, with no features. He writes and produces all his own shit. He can rap his ass off. But goddamn is he boring, and I can't get past it no matter how hard I try. I do not get excited *at all* at any of his tracks.

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It actually can be about any artist who had an amazing 3 or 4 album run then cooled/fell off. It happens to many artists in all genres of music.

With that said, Ye is the only current 'genius' in the collective minds that has been doing questionable shit and putting out questionable music....so yeah, verse 1 is definitely about Ye.


Cole doing what he do best, spittin' real shit.

both kanye (verse 1) and wale (verse 2) have publicly admitted they have mental illness problems, multiple times in interviews and through their music. cole's "can't you guys see how great and famous you are? get it together!" take misses the point and comes off as callous. anxiety and depression don't care about how many fans you have or how many racks you can blow. they're with you for life and affect you no matter what frame of mind you're in

and of course the 3rd verse is about cole being better than them because he somehow rose above it all even though he's not afflicted with the same things as his targets in the previous verses. i can't stand this guy

I'm a Ye fan but nah... you don't get to treat people like shit and then hide behind mental illness.

I remember a dude on here telling us how he was so happy to open for Wale and when he went on Wale's tour bus Wale treated him like shit. Treated him so bad he said he gave up on music or lost hope in music.

These niggas aren't too far gone to treat people with decency.

Isn't know how Cole been treated by these dudes. Maybe Cole had mental illness as well so it's all fair game. I hate how some rappers get to be assholes and hide behind some label while treating everyone like shit.

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for not handling their fame in the same way he has. that seems insensitive given their mental illness issues

i do agree that people shouldn't be terrible and then hide behind mental illness but i never got that vibe from ye or wale. imo wale always came across as not fully understanding his depression (even though he talks about it a lot), e.g. he doesn't realize that he's unhappy because he has depression, not because he's not as famous as he thinks he should be. but i don't know him so i can't say definitively what his mindset is. and ye always appeared to be barely holding it together, under stress that can't be comprehended by anyone but him. he's world famous, hugely influential, constantly attacked by fans, critics, and pundits, and still has to deal with anxiety and depression (which has to be exponentially worse when constantly in the spotlight)

maybe i'm being a little too empathetic towards their mental illnesses. all of the above doesn't excuse being an asshole but i think there's some middle ground to be reached there and they both definitely deserve some sympathy. and j cole is an opportunistic jerk for attacking them publicly

I hadn't thought of it in this way.

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A large majority of his contemporaries rap in ways that are extremely "tone deaf and insensitive" to poverty/low income, misogyny, the impact of drug usage and gun violence on families and communities, etc. Do you hold those rappers in contempt as strongly as you are Cole over this song? Do you judge him differently because you feel he's condescending or preachy in a way that those other rappers aren't? Your critique feels somewhat pitchfork-y, and I type that as someone who isn't a J Cole fan, and owns none of his music.


>for not handling their fame in the same way he has. that
>seems insensitive given their mental illness issues
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>i do agree that people shouldn't be terrible and then hide
>behind mental illness but i never got that vibe from ye or
>wale. imo wale always came across as not fully understanding
>his depression (even though he talks about it a lot), e.g. he
>doesn't realize that he's unhappy because he has depression,
>not because he's not as famous as he thinks he should be. but
>i don't know him so i can't say definitively what his mindset
>is. and ye always appeared to be barely holding it together,
>under stress that can't be comprehended by anyone but him.
>he's world famous, hugely influential, constantly attacked by
>fans, critics, and pundits, and still has to deal with anxiety
>and depression (which has to be exponentially worse when
>constantly in the spotlight)
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>maybe i'm being a little too empathetic towards their mental
>illnesses. all of the above doesn't excuse being an asshole
>but i think there's some middle ground to be reached there and
>they both definitely deserve some sympathy. and j cole is an
>opportunistic jerk for attacking them publicly

because it's shallow while claiming to be deep. i respect him greatly from a business perspective because he reached a point where he can basically do whatever he wants and still be wildly successful without being beholden to his label. his fans seem to love him and he seems to really appreciate that. that's awesome

>A large majority of his contemporaries rap in ways that are
>extremely "tone deaf and insensitive" to poverty/low income,
>misogyny, the impact of drug usage and gun violence on
>families and communities, etc. Do you hold those rappers in
>contempt as strongly as you are Cole over this song?

i don't. but they don't claim to be positive (or at least not negative) and don't have songs comparing themselves to nas. you can be a jerk in one song while having really uplifting and incisive things to say in another song. i think cole is off base with this song

>Do you judge him differently because you feel he's condescending or
>preachy in a way that those other rappers aren't?

this is it exactly. maybe i'm expecting more of him since he projects this "everyman with everyman problems" image. but i'm not super familiar with his music beyond friday night lights and his singles. this could be a case of a small sample size skewing my perspective. my responses in this post are a reaction to what cole is presenting in this song. i don't like what he's presenting in this song

i'm also very sensitive to mental illness issues (maybe overly sensitive) so when i hear someone attacking someone else with mental illness i get a little defensive for the person being attacked and that sometimes manifests itself as aggression towards the attacker. the reality of this whole situation is that there is a grey area between "targets of cole's verses deserve it" and "the targets of cole's verses are being unfairly attacked" and i'm leaning towards the latter when the real truth of what's happening is more towards the middle

detriment of people really suffering from mental illness.

We should all be tired of the wealthy living by a whole separate different rules from everyone else.


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who is currently using mental illness to excuse their terrible behavior? i don't really pay attention to tabloids or stuff like that so i'm out of the loop

also post 56

slate.

Any talent who gets a pass for "exhaustion" when we know part of exhaustion is parting too hard.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

so bad on his tour bus after they opened for him that he thought bout quitting music.

As a college promoter it always seemed like the roughest infant rappers were the most down to earth and the pro black positive rappers were assholes. (Talib and his pink ass manager Corey)

These fools ain't mentally ill... they just entitled assholes who always got money and fame and are more of what they already were.

Only reason these fools depressed is because they think they should be more famous.

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That's not tone deaf, that's personal
responsibility... something more
people should take when it comes to
how celebs are viewed in our society.

The ultimate message of the song is
actually an encouragement to fans to
find their god within instead of
exalting celebrities.

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the same break and better IMO

and I think his verses are opportunistic

and breezy at 50 sec mark... amen

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nsfw btw

https://www.instagram.com/p/BL63XMIB_mS?hl=en

"A rare picture of me smiling"

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but Freddie Joachim got an official album placement with J Cole

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He has zero charisma or innovation! Does he still have those really terrible similes?

Plus his fascination with other rappers that he either idolises or is disappointed in (or they're disappointed in him for that matter) is reaching The Game like levels of fixation!

I've got 30 plus years of great hip hop I can listen to. See no point in this generic dude at all!

Lurk everyday.. Post once a month..

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