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"Young Jewish girl discovers she's half-black (swipe)"


  

          

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/little-white-lie-review-a-filmmaker-explores-her-secret-black-heritage-1.10078126

THE DOCUMENTARY "Little White Lie" airing on "Independent Lens"
WHEN|WHERE Monday at 10 p.m. on WNET/13

WHAT IT'S ABOUT Filmmaker Lacey Schwartz confronts what everyone in her life had been "overlooking": That the little girl from the nice white family in Woodstock was black. How did it happen? How could it happen?

The light-skinned Schwartz grew up in Woodstock, a fairly homogeneous white community, never thinking she wasn't just like her parents, Robert and Peggy, and an heir to a New York Jewish immigrant background -- despite the fact that in summer she certainly tanned up a lot darker than anyone else in the family. Robert Schwartz explained Lacey's coloring away by pointing to photographs of his dark-complected Sicilian grandfather, which in retrospect seems ludicrous. (The filmmaker's biological father, no surprise, was really an African-American, who had an extramarital affair with her mother.) Schwartz concludes that everyone was in denial. "If you looked too closely at it," the filmmaker says, "it didn't make sense. So we didn't look."

It's not until she applies to Georgetown University, attaches a picture of herself and is admitted as a black student, that she accepts the obvious. At which point there's something of a hole in the story: She transitions into black college life with nary a speed bump, and it's not until later that the confrontations with her parents get serious. Were they unaware that a major institution of learning had declared their daughter African-American?


Have y'all heard of this? The NPR story was really very interesting.

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umm...wow. perhaps SHE'S the only one that didn't know?
Mar 23rd 2015
1
lol, it appears so.
Mar 23rd 2015
8
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/101524901/Lacey_1.jpg
Mar 23rd 2015
2
yeah really
Mar 23rd 2015
3
There are dark Jews with hair like that, but they tend to have
Mar 23rd 2015
6
Where they be at?
Mar 23rd 2015
10
      NYC. I've seen all kinds, many have middle eastern type
Mar 23rd 2015
15
      Here:
Mar 23rd 2015
17
      excellent example
Mar 23rd 2015
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      AAARGH!!! MY EYES!! WTF WAS THAT
Mar 23rd 2015
23
      lookin like Rain Pryor
Mar 23rd 2015
      that was awful...
Mar 23rd 2015
39
      Ronald McDonald's sister
Mar 23rd 2015
47
      ugh you are a piece of shit.
Mar 23rd 2015
66
           basically
Mar 24th 2015
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           I'm shallow.. sorry
Mar 24th 2015
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      lol, touche - ain't she a lil' light, tho?
Mar 23rd 2015
44
      light? she was white
Mar 23rd 2015
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      No different than many of our folks.
Mar 23rd 2015
68
      Yep
Mar 23rd 2015
62
      uhh, i guess. Ilyana looks white. OP pic doesnt
Mar 24th 2015
82
      RE: Where they be at?
Mar 23rd 2015
49
frankly i'd be more surprised to find she's Jewish....
Mar 23rd 2015
11
      she looks VERY jewish to me
Mar 25th 2015
102
my ex already made this movie.
Mar 23rd 2015
4
RE: Young Jewish girl discovers she's half-black (swipe)
Mar 23rd 2015
5
heard abt it on NPR this morning...she lost me
Mar 23rd 2015
7
that was cringeworthy - but I doubt she was lying tho.
Mar 23rd 2015
12
my poor brain washed people. nm
Mar 23rd 2015
20
      you ain't lyin' either.
Mar 23rd 2015
45
I get it tho...
Mar 23rd 2015
31
Man I heard that shit driving to work, almost cut the car off and
Mar 23rd 2015
56
      But she was not lying though
Mar 24th 2015
86
her deniability is more plausible than Tirico's
Mar 23rd 2015
9
lol
Mar 23rd 2015
16
that nigga knows he's black.
Mar 23rd 2015
24
I don't think Jeter has ever denied his blackness has he? he can't his.....
Mar 23rd 2015
29
Jeter? C'mon.....his father is black, it's no secret.
Mar 24th 2015
70
again they aint got to fit in Bin's myopic Blackness
Mar 24th 2015
83
LOL
Mar 23rd 2015
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I wish his mother would sit him down and put an end to this foolishness.
Mar 23rd 2015
27
My first thought was
Mar 23rd 2015
35
Tirico didnt know he was black?
Mar 23rd 2015
50
Tirico claims he's NOT Black
Mar 23rd 2015
51
Mike Tirico's DNA results:
Mar 23rd 2015
67
yo, tirico makes me so angry
Mar 24th 2015
93
yo, tirico makes me so angry
Mar 24th 2015
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I'm surprised this story is getting so much traction.
Mar 23rd 2015
13
it's getting traction because the documentary airs tonight
Mar 23rd 2015
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      Right, but her story's not all that unique.
Mar 23rd 2015
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           #32
Mar 23rd 2015
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                lol!
Mar 23rd 2015
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                ha!
Mar 23rd 2015
40
To be fair, her dad's Sicilian grandpa looked black as hell.
Mar 23rd 2015
18
agreed
Mar 23rd 2015
63
replace discovered with accepted and I will believe it
Mar 23rd 2015
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lol - yeah.
Mar 23rd 2015
46
Conscious denial like many conservatives
Mar 23rd 2015
26
she was interviewed on HOT 97 last year:
Mar 23rd 2015
28
damn, shes pretty
Mar 23rd 2015
32
your conditioning is conditioned
Mar 23rd 2015
36
Is it wrong to say that I can hear the blackness in her voice?
Mar 23rd 2015
59
      Slight but of resonance?
Mar 23rd 2015
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      Nope, I heard it IMMEDIATELY on NPR
Mar 24th 2015
73
           voice changed the instant she found out...
Mar 24th 2015
81
this feels a bit racist to me, no?
Mar 23rd 2015
30
well, it IS a dark secret
Mar 24th 2015
79
didnt even see it that way b.
Mar 24th 2015
89
The film's made a tour of all the UWS synagogues of late.
Mar 23rd 2015
33
She's got Arab genes in addition to African genes as well
Mar 23rd 2015
34
the fuck are you talking about?
Mar 25th 2015
108
im sure everyone else knew she was mixed with something
Mar 23rd 2015
41
tragic jewlato n/m
Mar 23rd 2015
42
DAMN, lol
Mar 24th 2015
85
did somebody say mulatto?
Mar 25th 2015
99
I remember seeing clips on youtube, I thought this was out already
Mar 23rd 2015
43
it was out in film festivals and limited screenings, now its on TV
Mar 23rd 2015
53
Hilarious! TF was her mom thinking?????!!?!???
Mar 23rd 2015
48
Terribly irresponsible.
Mar 23rd 2015
52
I used to work for a university in rural KY
Mar 23rd 2015
55
Cuts a little too close to home, but there's no way she didn't know
Mar 23rd 2015
57
looking at her pictures as a kid
Mar 23rd 2015
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I love how the black kids at school were like
Mar 23rd 2015
60
a lot of us have relatives somewhere in our fam who could pass...
Mar 24th 2015
75
      It's basically a superpower
Mar 24th 2015
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           lol yes
Mar 24th 2015
78
           Professor X-CLAN
Mar 24th 2015
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           I was raised on stories were black people were hired back in the day to....
Mar 24th 2015
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                Damn, I've never heard that one before
Mar 24th 2015
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                     Lol
Mar 24th 2015
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                     Hilarious!
Mar 25th 2015
103
She did a really great job on this!
Mar 23rd 2015
61
Oh and her ex and husband fine lol
Mar 23rd 2015
65
yep!
Mar 24th 2015
72
her ex looks like dude that played in Finding Forrester
Mar 24th 2015
76
I have a friend who is jewish
Mar 24th 2015
71
she looks like my homie whose mother is white Italian.
Mar 24th 2015
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This is my friend's story almost verbatim
Mar 24th 2015
87
damn white people will believe anyt...
Mar 25th 2015
101
just saw this and a couple of things
Mar 24th 2015
90
oh, and a screenshot which perfectly sums up the movie
Mar 24th 2015
91
her facial expressions throughout the movie were great
Mar 25th 2015
105
re: #3
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      Yeah 3
Mar 24th 2015
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           which makes me wonder how common this is...
Mar 24th 2015
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She looks like Neneh Cherry
Mar 25th 2015
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RE: She looks better than Neneh Cherry
Mar 25th 2015
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      Agreed.
Mar 25th 2015
106
her mom is on that George Costanza with the lying
Mar 25th 2015
107

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1. "umm...wow. perhaps SHE'S the only one that didn't know?"
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because......

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8. "lol, it appears so."
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The story sounded completely preposterous to me, but it was entertaining.

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2. "https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/101524901/Lacey_1.jpg"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/101524901/Lacey_1.jpg

man, it's obvious.

shame on her parents.

  

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3. "yeah really"
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6. "There are dark Jews with hair like that, but they tend to have"
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VERY jew-ey features. This broad looks like Rae Dawn Chong.

  

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10. "Where they be at?"
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I want to go to there.

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15. "NYC. I've seen all kinds, many have middle eastern type "
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Features or could pass for Dominican.

  

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17. "Here:"
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http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ilana+Glazer+Broad+City+Screening+NYC+o2i0QZwf3tRl.jpg

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22. "excellent example"
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23. "AAARGH!!! MY EYES!! WTF WAS THAT"
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"lookin like Rain Pryor"


  

          

  

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39. "that was awful... "
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66. "ugh you are a piece of shit."
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disgusting.

  

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69. "basically"
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74. "I'm shallow.. sorry"
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44. "lol, touche - ain't she a lil' light, tho?"
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54. "light? she was white"
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68. "No different than many of our folks. "
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62. "Yep"
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82. "uhh, i guess. Ilyana looks white. OP pic doesnt"
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49. "RE: Where they be at?"
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LMAO

  

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11. "frankly i'd be more surprised to find she's Jewish...."
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102. "she looks VERY jewish to me"
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4. "my ex already made this movie."
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http://www. silencesfilm.com/

  

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5. "RE: Young Jewish girl discovers she's half-black (swipe)"
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She looked like Drake as a baby though.. dunno how she aint know

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7. "heard abt it on NPR this morning...she lost me"
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When she was like when I went to undergrad suddenly my bad hair was good hair and my dark skin was light skin

She still doesnt get it IMO

I'm very dark and have dark curly hair. My skin and hair aren't "bad" just like hers weren't "bad" when she thought she was Jewish

  

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12. "that was cringeworthy - but I doubt she was lying tho."
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Nahmean?

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20. "my poor brain washed people. nm"
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does it really matter?

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45. "you ain't lyin' either."
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Wanna drink about it?

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31. "I get it tho..."
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>When she was like when I went to undergrad suddenly my bad
>hair was good hair and my dark skin was light skin
>
>She still doesnt get it IMO
>
>I'm very dark and have dark curly hair. My skin and hair
>aren't "bad" just like hers weren't "bad" when she thought she
>was Jewish
>
>

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56. "Man I heard that shit driving to work, almost cut the car off and "
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and walked right out onto the highway. Couldn't fucking take that shit.


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And all the men and women merely players:
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86. "But she was not lying though"
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The features that made her not white enough are highly cherished in the black community. Especially for women. She's being honest, no?

  

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9. "her deniability is more plausible than Tirico's"
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16. "lol"
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24. "that nigga knows he's black."
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I refuse to believe he's trying to pass

Tiger and Jeter tho...smh

They refuse to give in and come to the dark side


does it really matter?

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29. "I don't think Jeter has ever denied his blackness has he? he can't his....."
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black ass daddy was at every yankees game, lol

>I refuse to believe he's trying to pass
>
>Tiger and Jeter tho...smh
>
>They refuse to give in and come to the dark side
>

"when I was growin' up if we wanted a jacuzzi we had to fart in the tub!"

  

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70. "Jeter? C'mon.....his father is black, it's no secret."
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83. "again they aint got to fit in Bin's myopic Blackness "
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viewfinder

Jeter NEVER skirts being Black

Tiger another story

but they also get the benefit of doubt FROM whites, who view them at other

again, I have no idea what areas yall live in where white view and treat Blacks equally

  

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25. "LOL"
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27. "I wish his mother would sit him down and put an end to this foolishness."
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35. "My first thought was"
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"This ain't nothin' but the Mike Tirico Story!"

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50. "Tirico didnt know he was black?"
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does that explain his dude-bro frat stories in the espn offices?



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51. "Tirico claims he's NOT Black"
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I think it's a case of his family keeping secrets from him.


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According to a 1990 profile of Tirico in the Syracuse Post-Standard, “because of his dark skin and ethnic features, Tirico says, most people assume he’s black. But he’s seen pictures of his father, his father’s mother, and his father’s sister, all of whom are white.”

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67. "Mike Tirico's DNA results:"
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http://s1.hubimg.com/u/5135358_f260.jpg


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93. "yo, tirico makes me so angry"
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cuz i bet he has said *fuckin moolie* countless times

  

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94. "yo, tirico makes me so angry"
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cuz i bet he has said *fuckin moolie* countless times

  

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13. "I'm surprised this story is getting so much traction."
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I mean, haven't we all heard stories like this before?

And I want to know: did the dad know about the mom's affair or did he just want to believe that it was his Sicilian gene manifesting itself? lol

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14. "it's getting traction because the documentary airs tonight"
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19. "Right, but her story's not all that unique. "
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I mean, yeah, it's intriguing but it's not something we've never heard before.

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37. "#32"
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Simple as that.

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38. "lol!"
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40. "ha!"
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18. "To be fair, her dad's Sicilian grandpa looked black as hell."
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They showed his pic in one of the previews. Moorish as fuck. It was a plausible lie.

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63. "agreed"
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But then I grew up around Sicilians and yeah comparatively they are dark

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21. "replace discovered with accepted and I will believe it"
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46. "lol - yeah."
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26. "Conscious denial like many conservatives "
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28. "she was interviewed on HOT 97 last year:"
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32. "damn, shes pretty"
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36. "your conditioning is conditioned "
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59. "Is it wrong to say that I can hear the blackness in her voice?"
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Because I can and I mean beyond just her inflection.
Weird. It might be my eyes deceiving my ears though.

  

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64. "Slight but of resonance?"
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Bass?

I saw it in her hips as well
But yes could be me and her age she's in her thirties now and filled out
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73. "Nope, I heard it IMMEDIATELY on NPR"
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I was thinking how did she NOT know she was black?

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81. "voice changed the instant she found out..."
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30. "this feels a bit racist to me, no?"
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the sad music evoking "Tragic" feelings, etc. just doesn't feel right.

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79. "well, it IS a dark secret"
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89. "didnt even see it that way b. "
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33. "The film's made a tour of all the UWS synagogues of late."
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Brotherhood showed it @ one synagogue I go to was showing it and having discussion

The former president of my synagogue in the Bronx knows her from B'Chol L'ashon

http://www.bechollashon.org

She worked on this for about 8 years as I understand it. Was a major part of reconciling with her family, as I understand it.

Very awkward to watch though, especially when she confronts her mother.

  

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34. "She's got Arab genes in addition to African genes as well"
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Maybe even been had African genes if Jewish people really were enslaved in Egypt. Do Jewish people not read history books these days?

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108. "the fuck are you talking about?"
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41. "im sure everyone else knew she was mixed with something"
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42. "tragic jewlato n/m"
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85. "DAMN, lol"
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99. "did somebody say mulatto?"
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43. "I remember seeing clips on youtube, I thought this was out already"
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53. "it was out in film festivals and limited screenings, now its on TV"
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48. "Hilarious! TF was her mom thinking?????!!?!???"
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Like her mom knows she was taking pipe-n-circumstance from a black man, knows she was jewish and her man was jewish.

She just crossed her fingers and hoped no one would notice??? Like how the fuck did she go thru that and just be like "oh well!".
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52. "Terribly irresponsible."
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55. "I used to work for a university in rural KY"
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The football players would come for a year, creep in the corn fields and leave behind a baby or 2 before flunking out or transfering..

The college was frustrated because there were all these Obama babies who would check white when they enrolled. They were raised by white grandparents and always identified as white and really believed that shit.

  

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57. "Cuts a little too close to home, but there's no way she didn't know"
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Or at least have doubts.

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58. "looking at her pictures as a kid"
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it seems obvious because we know the story before watching
but so many italian, jewish, latino and such people look similarly and we don't call THEM black
despite whatever african roots may be present.

i do concede however that she looks a lot 'blacker' as a grown up.
but i feel it was probably pretty easy for her to pass the way she looked
especially if the non-biological dad is part sicilian.

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60. "I love how the black kids at school were like "
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"Um, girl you black"
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75. "a lot of us have relatives somewhere in our fam who could pass..."
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so we know when we see it...

and we make sure to call it out when one denies it.

  

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77. "It's basically a superpower"
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Finding a scintilla of black anywhere.
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78. "lol yes"
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this one guy i'd see around the more i saw him the more i was convinced he was black especially since he kept his head shaved and so did his brother. found his fb page and lo and behold his daddy was black. i was like I KNEW IT!

i still think shia labeouf is passing

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80. "Professor X-CLAN"
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88. "I was raised on stories were black people were hired back in the day to...."
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find and call out "passing" black people in organizations

this was in the 20s or 40s

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97. "Damn, I've never heard that one before"
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That's crazy. Hired for inherent negro spotting abilities.
I just imagine firms pulling a random black person off the street to smoke out passing negros for $50. Dave from accounting sweating hard because he skipped his conk appointment last week and his are roots coming in...
looking like this... http://askmeaboutmyhair.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/modern-day-conk.jpg
but lighter

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98. "Lol"
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>That's crazy. Hired for inherent negro spotting abilities.
>I just imagine firms pulling a random black person off the
>street to smoke out passing negros for $50. Dave from
>accounting sweating hard because he skipped his conk
>appointment last week and his are roots coming in...
>looking like this...
>http://askmeaboutmyhair.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/modern-day-conk.jpg
>but lighter
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103. "Hilarious! "
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61. "She did a really great job on this!"
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And man her mom is a trip

But BUT
It reminds me of all family secrets(abuse, infidelity, homosexuality etc etc)and people go silent
That silence is SO huge
And damaging
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65. "Oh and her ex and husband fine lol"
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72. "yep!"
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76. "her ex looks like dude that played in Finding Forrester"
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the other black kid on the basketball team at the white school



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71. "I have a friend who is jewish"
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with very curly hair and people think she is latina.... things that make you go hummmmmmmm

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84. "she looks like my homie whose mother is white Italian."
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i'd have clocked her immediately. LOL

fuck you.

  

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87. "This is my friend's story almost verbatim"
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We grew up together in Nigeria. In the heart of "black Africa"...lol
She was half white but did not "know" till she was 17.

I always thought she looked mixed but I had to accept the weak explanation I was force-fed i.e. Her grandmother was an albino.

Its not uncommon for Igbo people to occasionally have "lighter" complexion but her loose curls was highly unusual . We'd go swimming and her hair would not nap up...lol...it bugged me. When she later told me she found out she actually had a white biological father, I wanted to shout "I knew it!"

  

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101. "damn white people will believe anyt..."
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no wait
lol


folks don't seem to understand
its across the board this type of imma lie
and folks just won't looks too deep into it to not cause waves esp family
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90. "just saw this and a couple of things"
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1. she looks black as HELL even growing up she looked black as fuck

1a. or at least puerto rican

2. her dad looked kinda black-like when he was young

3. is it me or is this REALLY just a film about a woman dealing the idea that her parents are human beings and the long effects of divorce and infidelity? i mean, if a black person wasnt involved, this would have just been a doc about that.

4. i love how black people can instantly call out other black people by just a bit

5. c'mon lets not be brand new about that hair line, i knew what she meant

6. I was SUPER surprised she ended up with a brother. I was expecting a Chad or Brad which kinda does happen a lot for women in her lane

7. is it me or was even dancing with a bit of flavor at a her bat mitzvah?

8. now that she has aged a bit she looks really fucking black as HELL

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91. "oh, and a screenshot which perfectly sums up the movie"
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http://i60.tinypic.com/2nv5ton.png



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105. "her facial expressions throughout the movie were great"
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92. "re: #3 "
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she said in that interview with ebro that it was mostly about family secrets and infidelity
but the black angle just happened to be a part of it.

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95. "Yeah 3"
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And how the whole continuing to cover up and stay silent and not communicate
Man
MAN it was painful to watch definitely not this secret in particular
This is across the board family secrets
Infidelities, abuse, bigamists, adoptions, homosexuality etc etc etc
That silence is soooo heavy

And her mom saying to would have KEPT the secret if she could gave
And never told
0_o
Wild
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96. "which makes me wonder how common this is..."
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passing off the kid as a child of a parent when the parent is not the child

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100. "She looks like Neneh Cherry"
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104. "RE: She looks better than Neneh Cherry"
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fixed it for u

this girl cute as hayull

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106. "Agreed."
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I'm looking at the documentary right now and she's borderline dreamy.

  

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107. "her mom is on that George Costanza with the lying"
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she just carried that shit through for a whole lifetime

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