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astralblak
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"Eddie Huang reflects on his memoir Fresh Off the Boat becoming a sitcom "
Tue Jan-13-15 09:17 PM by astralblak

  

          

http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/eddie-huang-fresh-off-the-boat-abc.html

Very much related to the convos surrounding JF's media representations post and that Mindy Show critique

  

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they actually screened it here in SD during the asian film festival
Jan 13th 2015
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I posted a similar comment but I wonder if he's coppin pleas
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there's a part of me that feels the same as you, but
Jan 14th 2015
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wants the check and the street-cred
Jan 15th 2015
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only read through the opening dialog
Jan 13th 2015
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keep reading
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reading this article earlier made me not want to watch the show lol
Jan 13th 2015
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Finished reading, I'm in
Jan 14th 2015
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yeah, the piece was interesting in where it began
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      i think he writes how he talks
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           he is a real ass dude, knew him before he blew up
Jan 14th 2015
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                man i fucn talk like that
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I'm cautious of the show, but I'm curious about Baohaus.
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breh said it's Panda Express lmao
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I'm struggling to read this.
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yo.....
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      AND THEN he pretty much sells out at the end
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      WHAT
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Once you sell them your story. It isn't your story.
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it sucks really. authors have a very hard time with this
Jan 14th 2015
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Fresh Off the Boat panel gets awkward (link)
Jan 15th 2015
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he aight. hes just an excitable cornball.
Jan 15th 2015
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      he looks punchable...
Jan 15th 2015
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We have mutual friends who swear he's a real dude, but
Jan 15th 2015
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urbanism is only allowed from LA or NY?
Jan 15th 2015
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Maybe I need to be less old
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      I agree and see what your saying
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           This is why I don't hate him
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i completely agree with you
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      damn you don't like Roy Choi?
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1. "they actually screened it here in SD during the asian film festival"
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there's an NPR interview about that show as well

  

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2. "I posted a similar comment but I wonder if he's coppin pleas"
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How genuine is this? Is he just trying to distance himself from it a bit now cause he sees/knows how watered down it is- and his fans won't approve?

Eddie is a hustler. He knew what signing a network tv deal meant.

Take the money, never have to run.

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astralblak
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10. "there's a part of me that feels the same as you, but"
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the end of the piece is what made me believe his gripes with the process

  

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John Forte
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24. "wants the check and the street-cred"
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3. "only read through the opening dialog"
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meh... fuck that shit.

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astralblak
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5. "keep reading"
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4. "reading this article earlier made me not want to watch the show lol"
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6. "Finished reading, I'm in"
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In the back of my mind I'm like we HAVE to start somewhere
In the end he came to understand that
There are barely any references if this show makes it on the map it'll only be the second blip in over a damn decade okay third
I like Sullivan and son

It'll be fine
It'll be something
Better than nothing and I'm here for it
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astralblak
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9. "yeah, the piece was interesting in where it began"
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and where it finished

the analysis was present

some of Eddie's lingo was a bit over the top though

  

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11. "i think he writes how he talks"
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lol
i can relate

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12. "he is a real ass dude, knew him before he blew up"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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astralblak
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17. "man i fucn talk like that"
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in print, at times though, it becomes grating

no hate, personal taste

i love what that MFer is doing all around. I was pissed when I went to NY last June and didn't hit up Boahaus

  

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7. "I'm cautious of the show, but I'm curious about Baohaus."
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8. "breh said it's Panda Express lmao"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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13. "I'm struggling to read this. "
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14. "yo....."
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this whole thing of appropriated oppression is type crazy to me

note to "them" (those that do.that.thing): your struggle doesn't have to be viewed through the lens of mine to be valid

you kinda end up diminishing (me) mine buy shoving yours into the mold trying to invoke what mine does

*sigh*

__________ AIN'T the new b/Black. it just ain't.

that's ok. yours can count too.

to the author of the article: EFF-YEW and your pseudo-clever little footnotes...

  

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15. "AND THEN he pretty much sells out at the end"
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too funny

  

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18. "WHAT"
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16. "Once you sell them your story. It isn't your story. "
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19. "it sucks really. authors have a very hard time with this"
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because one, few authors make GOOD cash off their books selling, so if your book or short story gets optioned for 3-6 years for anywhere from 20-60k how you gunna say no?

two, problem is once your agent signs off on the option the author has very little say so, if any, in how the material is presented in film or tv. Ursula le Guinn just wrote about this in Gawker in relation to how SyFy fucked her book up in terms of how she saw race.

An author some where is gunna have to fight this legally to set i precedent in a way, because right now, most stories will sound like Eddie's here

  

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20. "Fresh Off the Boat panel gets awkward (link)"
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i respect eddies hustle but something about him rubs me the wrong way

http://insidetv.ew.com/2015/01/14/fresh-off-the-boat-panel/

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21. "he aight. hes just an excitable cornball."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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23. "he looks punchable..."
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and after reading some of the OP's link, he sounds punchable too.

  

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22. "We have mutual friends who swear he's a real dude, but "
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I find his whole steez irksome. There's the whole over-the-top cultural appropriation bit (he's not an urban Asian kid from NY or Cali). There's the privilege angle (family owned local chain of steakhouses, went to law school, flamed out in law, fam set him up with restaurant).

He plays up the child of immigrants thing, but he's the poster child for privilege.

  

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25. "urbanism is only allowed from LA or NY?"
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Thu Jan-15-15 02:00 PM by astralblak

  

          

what's he appropriating? hip hop? blackness?

seems exactly how most kids from multiracial periphery suburbs turnout

are kids from privileged background not allowed to have critiques of race, power, gender and privilege?

are kids from priv bg's not allowed to create "cutting edge" cultural productions?

i get you you're saying, but the specifics of what you addressed threw me off

  

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26. "Maybe I need to be less old"
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but Huang's speech and mannerisms seem affected and overly black. I've met a lot of Asian hip-hop heads, and most of them don't come off like Huang (who grew up on a cul-de-sac in the Orlando suburbs). Those who do, tend to be products of inner city neighborhoods, making their personas seem more authentic...to me at least. There's a level of "street" in Huang's persona that comes off as artifice. I'm sure that's who he really is, but he appropriated that. He wasn't raised in it.

  

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27. "I agree and see what your saying"
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but, again a place like Orlando, IN THE 90s, is producing Black, White, Latino, and Asian youth like Eddie

if he's appropriating "urban" Blackness, which he is, so are the Black kids in his community. It's a slippery theoretical slope to walk

yet for me, his piece and his work, is about expanding the racialized narrative of America beyond Black and White

  

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28. "This is why I don't hate him"
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>yet for me, his piece and his work, is about expanding the
>racialized narrative of America beyond Black and White


I like what he tries to do, it's his persona I take issue with with. Now you've got me thinking; is there a such thing as Asian-American culture (or Korean-American, Chinese-American, whatever)? Moving beyond the black/white dichotomy, there's definitely a Mexican-American culture.

  

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29. "i completely agree with you"
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im not saying his experience is inauthentic, i feel its def a persona he puts on when its convenient.
as much as i dont like roy choi, i feel like he's a lot more real than huang.

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astralblak
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30. "damn you don't like Roy Choi?"
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I mean it cant stand David Choe's stchtick but I love his art, so we all have some one I guess

Haha

  

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