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double negative
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"All skin folk, ain't kin folk. Ayo, lets talk about these black grifters"


  

          

I just learned about Ali Alexander and I am speechless.

If you don't know, he's the bootleg Sammy Davis jr. who has publicly taken credit for kicking off the Jan. 6th insurection and being the cofounder of the "Stop the Steal" movement. Knowing this is a mindfuck.

Next. Candace O. just got a damn TV show and it's hot ass-gravy on garbage.

Next. Brandon Tatum. This video of him going from "'Murica. Guns. Freedom." to "it's on sight, niggas" is gold. https://youtu.be/y0Ms_i4uGtk


I thought things would calm down a bit with Trump gone, but uh...nawl. These people are the worst.

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Real talk, if not for OKP I wouldn’t ever know about most of these
Mar 25th 2021
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I knew about most of them, Ali...I have no idea how I missed him
Mar 25th 2021
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i hear about them on twitter first
Mar 25th 2021
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Never heard of Tatum
Mar 25th 2021
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I ask this on every post. What do yall think 'grifting' means?
Mar 25th 2021
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Attaching yourself to an ideology for profit
Mar 25th 2021
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Ok, cool. Nothing even in the vicinity of the actual definition.
Mar 25th 2021
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      Person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling
Mar 25th 2021
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           what if you were white and pretended not to be for no clear reason
Mar 25th 2021
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           http://i.imgur.com/c7c8aDx.jpg
Mar 25th 2021
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           Its actually not at all similar.
Mar 25th 2021
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                How is Sammy Davis lookalike's Stop the Steal not a grift?
Mar 25th 2021
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                     1st: The nigga do like like Sammy lol
Mar 25th 2021
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                          An extreme fringe position is the same as any other political cause ?
Mar 25th 2021
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                               In the context of this conversation, absolutely.
Mar 25th 2021
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                                    Interesting
Mar 25th 2021
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lying, swindling folk for a quick buck
Mar 25th 2021
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if it's selling fake bullshit to gullible/desperate people that's grift
Mar 25th 2021
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      Is this true for religion?
Mar 25th 2021
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           There are MANY MANY MANY religous grifters.
Mar 25th 2021
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                is religion the 'fake bullshit" and/or are the believers gullible?
Mar 25th 2021
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                     Let’s rock w Benny Hinn as an example. Dude is fake as fuck
Mar 25th 2021
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                          Maybe fake, but not a grifter
Mar 25th 2021
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                               I feel like you don’t know what grifting is, or have your own definiti...
Mar 25th 2021
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                                    lol
Mar 25th 2021
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                                    It's funny that you literally made up a definition,
Mar 25th 2021
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                                         Sure, Kyrie
Mar 25th 2021
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No let's not. Because they thrive on your outrage
Mar 25th 2021
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these skin folk not using washcloths?
Mar 25th 2021
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LoL this board is filled with em
Mar 26th 2021
30
damn, I legit thought that was a photoshop! LOL....
Mar 26th 2021
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legsdiamond
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1. "Real talk, if not for OKP I wouldn’t ever know about most of these "
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snake oil peddlers

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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2. "I knew about most of them, Ali...I have no idea how I missed him"
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and I've been eyeballing that space for a long time. Since 2016. I've watched a dumb amount of debates and interviews with people whose names rhyme with Hapiro, Eaterson, Boomer, Flowder

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3. "i hear about them on twitter first"
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im surprised to see who does/doesnt make it over here and when

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Hitokiri
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4. "Never heard of Tatum"
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The other two a vile pieces of shit. I'll never forgive Kanye for making Owens a household name.

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CIPHA
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5. "I ask this on every post. What do yall think 'grifting' means?"
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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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6. "Attaching yourself to an ideology for profit"
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CIPHA
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7. "Ok, cool. Nothing even in the vicinity of the actual definition."
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Now I have a better understanding.

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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8. "Person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling "
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Seems pretty similar to me

  

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11. "what if you were white and pretended not to be for no clear reason"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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12. "http://i.imgur.com/c7c8aDx.jpg"
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http://i.imgur.com/c7c8aDx.jpg

  

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CIPHA
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13. "Its actually not at all similar. "
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And further, to call it a "grift" bastardizes the damage that people who actually engage in wide-spread deception cause.

Further, when you call it a "grift" what you're really doing is releasing people from their own personal responsibility. If you sent money to a mufucka because he looked and sounded good and said something you liked, that's on you. Now if he told you he was gonna invest your money and pay you dividends, now we talk about grifting, but until then, you bought what you paid for, a good feeling.

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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14. "How is Sammy Davis lookalike's Stop the Steal not a grift?"
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Thu Mar-25-21 04:15 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

He was taking people's money on the false promise that he can "stop the steal". He was lying to them and conning them out of their money.

These people aren't giving money because he looks/sounds good. They want the service he promises.



  

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15. "1st: The nigga do like like Sammy lol"
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but I don't know how what he did was different that raising money for any other political cause (it just happened to be a extreme fringe position). He said he was gonna put pressure on congress, and they followed through on that. In fact, his shit was the opposite of a grift lol. It just wasn't ultimately successful, but ending abortion hasn't been ultimately successful either and nobody would call pro-life campaigns a "grift".

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21. " An extreme fringe position is the same as any other political cause ?"
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How if you have to use fringe and extreme to describe it ?

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23. "In the context of this conversation, absolutely."
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Do you think Shirley Chisolm's presidential campaign was a grift? Because I guarantee you a large swath of America thought a black woman becoming president in 1972 was a pretty fringe idea.

I'm not arguing on the side of any of these people, I'm just trying to get the language right (c) MLK Jr.

Just because you disagree with somebody doesn't mean they're "grifting" or "scamming", and then yall use the same language to describe legitimate professionals like Ben Crump.

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26. "Interesting"
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No I don't believe Shirley Chisolm's presidential campaign was a grift.

I understand the point you are making but I'm not sure if it's apples to apples.

Crump and Tamika is one thing but the names(C Ownes, Ali) in the OP and what they do is more than a disagreement.

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9. "lying, swindling folk for a quick buck"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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16. "if it's selling fake bullshit to gullible/desperate people that's grift"
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In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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17. "Is this true for religion?"
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18. "There are MANY MANY MANY religous grifters. "
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like so many...

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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19. "is religion the 'fake bullshit" and/or are the believers gullible?"
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I just want to be sure what you're saying before I respond.

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22. "Let’s rock w Benny Hinn as an example. Dude is fake as fuck"
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And in it for the skrilla. He’s grifting.

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24. "Maybe fake, but not a grifter"
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He's selling people what they want, and they're happy buying it. And most importantly, they're getting what they paid for.

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25. "I feel like you don’t know what grifting is, or have your own definiti..."
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If we were high and sitting in a frosh dorm room I’d have more patience for your boring debate on semantics.

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27. "lol"
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28. "It's funny that you literally made up a definition,"
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then accused me of having my own definition.

Maybe you're still in the freshman dorm room.

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29. "Sure, Kyrie"
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In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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10. "No let's not. Because they thrive on your outrage"
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Clicks don't know you mad

Views have no political orientation

They are monetizing your anger.

Everytime you mention or click on these people...you're putting money in their pockets

So...no. ignore them. Entirely.

No clicks. No retweets. No attention whatsoever


on sabbatical.

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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20. "these skin folk not using washcloths?"
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30. "LoL this board is filled with em"
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31. "damn, I legit thought that was a photoshop! LOL...."
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