legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79960 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 09:38 AM
2. "medium.. anything else is uncivilized" In response to Reply # 0
my Dad used to cook at a restaurant and used to crack up when black folk ordered Filet Mignon well done.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79960 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 10:46 AM
21. "once you go black you can't go back " In response to Reply # 8
but you can always cook a medium or medium steak a little longer
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13. "It depends on the cut, but generally medium or medium well" In response to Reply # 0
on rare occasions i will go medium rare. recently had a waygu ribeye from argentina and did the medium rare thing, very flavorful and it was worth it. generally speaking i think that is for texans and if you do it on a very thick cut like a filet, then i really dislike it. if its real thick i will go medium well so it gets cooked all the way to the center, normal to kinda thick medium. people who get their shit super well done bug me out. the rare thing i understand but it's just not for me, personally.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
The red juice that often collects in a package of red meat is not blood, as many assume. Most of the blood is removed during processing and any that remains is usually contained within the muscle tissue.
The red liquid, instead, is a mixture of water and a protein called myoglobin, whose purpose is to help ship oxygen to muscle cells. Myoglobin is deeply pigmented, which is why the more myoglobin a meat contains, the darker (or redder) the meat will be.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79960 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 10:47 AM
22. "you mean un-done-ness" In response to Reply # 20
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60. "As a kid I cooked beef well because I didn't trust the pink" In response to Reply # 27
I'd see commercials and even cooks on tv serve shit up rare and I just didn't get it. I thought that shit was raw. I didn't learn about degrees of done, cutting techniques, etc until I was about 11 but by that time it was so heavily ingrained in my taste buds that I couldn't stand the texture of 'medium' meat.
To be honest the whole anti-rare thing is little more than snobbery. It's like people who insist on a "correct" way to make scrambled eggs. If people think well means a brick somewhere between charcoal and dry shoe leather, they just plain don't know how to cook it correctly and refuse to accept/admit as much.
28. "i actually made a tender well-done steak" In response to Reply # 0
back when my girl was pregnant, she was craving steak it was just cheaper to buy it and cook it, but she could only have it well done
so i basically would sprinkle on sea salt (especially on the fat), and peppercorns sear both sides then pop the skillet in the oven with onion, herbs, (maybe butter?) for about 8 minutes which is enough to render the fat and JUST get well done
you probably think i'm lying, but i'm not posting this to gloat or sing the praises of well done because i like medium. I'm lamenting that i don't remember how i did it. i think i made 8 steaks consistently, but as soon as she had the baby, they just got tough and i think i may have forgotten something i did.
35. "RE: even though I've heard it's risky.....a medium rare burger is heaven" In response to Reply # 30
I always go medium rare on a steak, but medium on a burger. I've heard that you're more likely to find e coli in ground beef, so medium is a safer bet.
I also don't love all the extra juice in a medium rare burger...it turns the bun into a soggy mess.
PoppaGeorge Member since Nov 07th 2004 10384 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 02:30 PM
39. "well done from a good restaurant = steak goodness" In response to Reply # 0
any naysayers need to stop expecting cooks at Denny's to know how to hook up a tender, juicy well done steak.
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PoppaGeorge Member since Nov 07th 2004 10384 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 03:02 PM
46. "^^^ Eats his steak at Cracker Barrel" In response to Reply # 44
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out? Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then? They don't want to call for peace then.
PoppaGeorge Member since Nov 07th 2004 10384 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 04:36 PM
52. "^^^ Eats Grade D "WTF are you doing son?" beef" In response to Reply # 49
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out? Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then? They don't want to call for peace then.
48. "I went to a really nice steak place in SF" In response to Reply # 39
a guy I was with tried to order the filet mignon well done. The waiter told him quietly to the side "sir the chef recommends medium rare or medium" AKA "youre fuckin blowing it sir". I think he went with medium after that.
50. "Yup. Im not gonna go tell a person how to spend their money" In response to Reply # 48
>a guy I was with tried to order the filet mignon well done. >The waiter told him quietly to the side "sir the chef >recommends medium rare or medium" AKA "youre fuckin blowing it >sir". I think he went with medium after that.
But if you're going to pay for fine cuts of meat, you actually want to taste the meat, not the grill.
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now or never Member since Oct 27th 2004 3821 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 05:52 PM
56. "yall DO realize that they overcookin ya meats on some stereotype shit no..." In response to Reply # 0
like fa reals i've asked for medium burgers/medium rare steaks multiple times in the past year and a half and they be bringing my shit burned all the way thru one time, i got the receipt and it actually said "NO PINK"
they SOOO tired of yall niggas sending pink shit back that us who actually like pink/red shit can't even get it yall fuckin shit up for everybody ----- No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (c) HL Mencken or some other motherfucker.
The Wordsmith Member since Aug 13th 2002 17070 posts
Fri Jan-29-16 07:25 PM
57. "Speaking of stereotypes, I had an incident at Golden Corral....." In response to Reply # 56
...(yeah, I know their steaks aren't top quality, just work with me here) when I was in the steak line. It was a brother hooking up the steaks and he asked the white dude ahead of me how'd he like his steak. Once he got to me, the first thing he said was "what's up, brother? You want your steak well done?" I'm standing there like "well, damn." After I told him "medium", he then asked the sister behind me and of course she said "well done." I'm standing there thinking "see, this is why we get the stereotype of well done meat."
64. "THERE IS NO BLOOD IN A STEAK" In response to Reply # 0
for the love of all that is holy ... it's 2016 and people still think that a cut of meat from an animal that's long been dead still has blood in it. that's just stupid on so many levels. getting your steaks well done cuz you think it's safer?! a medium rare steak is cooked to about 145 degrees. that's more than enough heat to kill anything that could possibly have been on it. grow up and get that steak medium rare and stop it with all the nonsense.
72. "Myoglobin . Still too close to blood for me. LOL" In response to Reply # 66
Myoglobin is an iron- and oxygen-binding protein found in the muscle tissue of vertebrates in general and in almost all mammals. It is related to hemoglobin, which is the iron- and oxygen-binding protein in blood, specifically in the red blood cells. In humans, myoglobin is only found in the bloodstream after muscle injury. It is an abnormal finding, and can be diagnostically relevant when found in blood. . . .
74. "Its more like "grow up and accept that people like different things"" In response to Reply # 64
There are few things more indicative of a control freak than a rant on how other people choose to eat and why they should change.
Steak is a particularly amusing subject because so many of you are so ridiculously upset that people don't eat it Your way. The good news is that what they eat won't make you shit, so you can now grow up and accept that some people like a steak cooked well and the reasons why don't particularly matter.
79. "if you want it well done cuz you think it tastes better, fine" In response to Reply # 74 Mon Feb-01-16 09:55 AM by jrocc
but if you want it well done because you think there's blood in it then you need to come to your senses. i'd never tell anyone what they should eat, but this always bugs the mess out of me.
84. "Why is completely immaterial. If it bugs you thats 100% your issue" In response to Reply # 79
And frankly that's an issue several degrees of magnitude greater than the guy who wants his red meat cooked well because he thinks blood when he sees pink.
If you're not eating it this shouldn't bother you at all.
If I'm eating it, it doesn't really make a difference why I want it how I want it because the net affect is the same In that I either like it or I don't and whether or not it grosses me out based on a placebo effect or something more substantial doesn't change whether or not some aspect of food that may not bother you is renders that same food inedible to me.
GriftyMcgrift Member since May 22nd 2002 20414 posts
Sun Jan-31-16 07:46 PM
67. "i have this thing if im a low end/random restaurant" In response to Reply # 0
i usually order the steak medium well because it seems like its always way underdone at those spots and theres a certain point where I cant eat rare steak, more of a texture consistency thing
if im at a nice restaurant, i order "medium" because I have faith that they know what they are doing...usually
85. "lol my family is steak segregated." In response to Reply # 0
I literally divide the steaks by race. Medium rare for me and my white daughter. Cooked dry so that the only flavor is seasoning for everyone else. Even have to use two different plates because my black peoples believe that the juices are blood. I don't see a compromise in the near future.
89. "Get a good sear, cook slower over low heat and let it rest fam " In response to Reply # 85
Hell if you get that sear and throw it in some foil in low heat with a little butter and some veggies?
Nice and tender.
There's no need for a well done steak to be dry or flavorless.
Even on a medium steak, if the juices are running it's because you didn't let the meat rest. Also, make sure you cut against the grain or it will be a much tougher bite and the juices will run out.
87. "when i was young and silly, it was all about well done..." In response to Reply # 0
now that I'm older...medium. I even order my burgers medium. Medium well sometimes depending on my mood (but this is visual and texture based). My friend and i were in Chile and she ordered a well done steak and in Chile, nothing is cooked all the way. so the steak came out medium well. all around the middle of the steak was well done, and then when she got to the middle, the best thickest part it was medium. a perfectly cooked medium, she removed all the pink and only ate the well pieces. it was a tragedy watching her mutilate that steak.
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