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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=116375

It was announced last week that FX's hit series "American Horror Story" would be adopting a carnival aesthetic for its upcoming fourth season, leading some to speculate that the season may be set around a "freak show," a la Todd Browning's 1932 horror classic, Freaks. Today, series creator Ryan Murphy confirmed that the plan is to do just that, posting the following on Twitter:



Previous reports suggest that "American Horror Story: Freak Show" will be set in the 1950s with Jessica Lange already confirmed to be returning (and said to have been practicing her German accent).

The series' third season, "Coven," featured an ensemble cast that also includes Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Sarah Paulson, Frances Conroy, Gabourey Sidibe, Denis O’Hare, Patti LuPone, Evan Peters, Taissa Farmiga, Lily Rabe and Emma Roberts.

Read more: It's Official: Get Ready for American Horror Story: Freak Show - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=116375#ixzz2wu8BkMvD
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Hope they give Lange some complete insanity to go out on for her final season.

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I'm kinda MEH now on the series. Personally dont really like the carnie vibe and I feel like its been in so much recently (e.g. last season of heroes all about a carnival). PENNY DREADFUL by showtime has my interest, though.

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There were definitely direct homages to it in Asylum.

Should get pretty cray.

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i wasnt sure if i was going to stay if they stuck to strictly horror

cant do horror (unless its camp apparently as pointed out)

so freaks shows some camp promise

and then of course theres angela



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If that's all you got then just stop now.

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ok.

there are VERY rare exceptions

i came in when it got good for me
the previous seasons the show took itself too seriously
and i'm not a person that feels the need to be horrified
life is real and horrifying enough
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I don't care if it's about grandma's house or mermaids or whatever, I'm tuning in.

Hopefully Murphy stays invested and doesn't get sloppy... the anthology structure should keep the characters and setting fresh at least.

Admittedly, Coven lost some momentum towards the end of the season but overall it was still a lot of fun.

But I love love love how the show both pokes fun and reveres all the classic horror tropes, while turning others on their heads. I love horror in all its forms but it can all too easily become trite and derivative, even in some of my favorite flicks. AHS doesn't just try to follow in the horror genre's footsteps; it's trying to carve its own way and I think AHS is killing it.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/24/american-horror-story-freak-show-details/

Fans have been hoping that the new season of American Horror Story would be set at a carnival, and they’re not soooo far off. Co-creator Ryan Murphy announced via his Twitter account that season 4 will be called Freak Show. But what does that mean exactly? EW has uncovered exclusive new details about the secretive season.

Set in Jupiter, Florida, in 1950, Freak Show finds Jessica Lange playing a German ex-pat who is managing one of the last freak shows in the U.S. Her group of “unusuals”? Kathy Bates, Sarah Paulson, Evan Peters, Angela Bassett, and Frances Conroy all play performers whom Lange’s character has rescued; Denis O’Hare and Emma Roberts are also in talks to return. Freak Show’s 13 episodes will track this group as they do anything to keep their business around.

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Maybe this time more of the cast can jump in on the serial killer theme, instead of one or two characters.

I remember a few years ago, a friend of mine and I were not well, and talking about how awesome it would be to go to a modern day freak show. And I'm a big fan of Freaks on top of that, so I'd be all in for this.

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when the season starts

and CAN WE PLEASE break it into ep 1-5, 6-10 and 11-13

those 400+ reply threads get very tiresome to navigate through and i feel opens up the space for silly back and forths

just my six cents

or just even two threads, one for the midseason break

Shit got mad unwieldy last time, hah

But some ppl chose to not follow it.
I don't think we should because not everyone is going to follow those rules anyway...and we like to refer back to earlier episodes.

I made episode posts and mofos didn't even post within the thread.

It's gonna get unwieldy no matter what anyways.

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>But some ppl chose to not follow it.
>I don't think we should because not everyone is going to
>follow those rules anyway...and we like to refer back to
>earlier episodes.

basically. it was organized very well and wasn't nearly as unwieldy as a lot of posts that go north of 100+ replies....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCULL7NSuI

They say this is gonna be more in line with Season 1. Less camp, more creepy and unsettling. And that makes me VERY happy.

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And their next episode previews too.

One thing that they understand so well is generating interest without spoiling anything. Shoutout to the production team for the great work.

I'm about halfway through the first season of Carnivale too. Interesting show, quirkier and less dark than what I was expecting. I'm looking forward to seeing how different carny life is depicted between the two shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKGwySm9nMc

it takes a muscle.

Chiklis literally looks EXACTLY like every stereotypical strong man you've ever seen. Like... insanely identical. Bafflingly identical. Inspired casting.

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I'm a Stan for TWD too, but this one might just be at the top this year.

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I watched all of Coven, and it was entertaining in a really cheesy, pandering kind of way, but it nowhere near deserves the hype it gets on this forum.

Why does a topic about this show get 400+ posts while quality shows like Justified, The Leftovers, Masters of Sex, Treme, Fargo, and The Americans, to name a few, get far less posts? If you look at it by posts, it would seem that PTP's favorite shows are True Detective and American Horror Story, two shows which couldn't be farther apart in terms of quality and style.

Thoughts?

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True Detective: 706
Mad Men: 605
AHS Coven: 568
The Leftovers: 209
Fargo: 197
Justified (S5): 157
The Americans (S2): 80
Masters of Sex (S1): 5 (S2): 15 so far
Treme (S4): 19

Now I see the appeal of AHS, but personally I'd put all those shows far above it. Yet AHS gets an insane number of posts. It's a top 3 show for PTP in the past couple of years, which is really surprising to me because far better shows go underappreciated on here. Does it just lead to more discussion? Trolling? Or are there simply more people watching AHS?

I mean, Emmy nominated horror with Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Sarah Paulson, et al? And it has extremely consistent writing.

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... one really can't debate that it delivers perfectly to its audience and the cast is always immaculate.

Furthermore, as I've learned the hard way in the past (such as when I referred to last season as camp and got attacked), AHS has pretty much the most passionate fans on earth. There's no reason to come into a post like this when the passion is apparent and ask why fans like something "shitty." It's not a genuine question.

It's either going to be something people really dig or something they really don't. That's a product of how highly stylized the show is. Not a great deal of in-between opinion.

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secondly, it moreseo speaks to the viewers of the show, not the quality of the show (although I disagree with you, I Think the show is great).

If you look at the variety of people posting in these different threads, in AHS, it's usually the same 25-30 ppl and we are active posters...whereas in True Detective it was 100 ppl posting. We actively engage each other in this thread and that's the difference between THIS thread and other shows.

Throughout the years my secret organization has noticed a growing discourse on American Horror Story in the Pass The Popcorn section of the Okayplayer forums. We became concerned that these intellectual debates over fatal vaginas, reassembled Herculean zombies, morbidly obese voodoo masochists, and obligatory resurrections of every dead character were too sophisticated and would eventually lead to societal cooperation and mass spiritual enlightenment. My goal is to create a shred of doubt in the minds of readers that this is actually a campy and horribly written show saved by a strong cast, thereby disassembling the provocative discussions and protecting our NWO & Illuminati.

Or I don't know...maybe I'm just a guy on the internet who feels free to voice his opinion.

I'll still watch the next season. The trailer looks dope and I like the carnival theme (won't be better than Carnivale though). But I've obviously struck a chord if I got aliases coming at me, so I'll let y'all get back to it.

I shut down my old account and made a new one. My original one was lovelyone80 so I'm KNOWN in these threads, my other account is above. LOL.I actually made this account for the sole purpose of this show's thread.

But you can't compare the threads...if you think the show isn't good, then don't watch. if you think other show threads deserve more shine go to that thread and try to engage the posters there...and you will see that community is different that this one...True Detective had a lot of engagement but other than that, ppl just aren't as interested in their fav shows as we are in ours.

and Season 3 is by far the campiest of all the seasons. Also, basing the entirety of your opinion on just the third season seems incomplete.

Season 1 had more traditional horror tropes, while Season 2 stretched the boundaries of the crazy shit they could fit in. All three have fairly distinct themes, and that's a big draw of the show. Season 2 was incredibly dark and bizarre, so the relative lightheartedness of Season 3 was a refreshing change of pace.

as populated?
i didn't watch the prior shows

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Not sure about the first season, but I bet it's archived.

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though this was similar to the camp argument you corrected (or was it soul honky...no i think it was you)me on

i've have friends who now dont like the show or dont think its as good because of the camp

then blah blah why not watch better shows etc etc
hummnah hummnah

but hey if they were as popular
there really isnt an argument here
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So if Murphy wants to camp it up, it's not like horror fans have a myriad of options to race off to.

Furthermore, I find that camp is not only useful to break up what may otherwise be unrelentingly grim hours of television, but... it's Murphy's personality. Shining through. It's one of the few TV shows on any network that consistently feels EXACTLY like the author's voice, every line, every episode. I feel like that's a commodity, and cutting back on Murphy's tendency toward camp would likely cut back on the very thing that makes it such an auteur-esque standout.

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sorry
not a horror fan
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but again, it's like the same set of ppl, engaging in the convos...random ppl here and there but there are a core of us...

hes picking a different bone than i thought


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Each year, the opening credits got creepier and scarier. This year, they're kinda...dull.

I pray, pray next year goes back to true horror.

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... interesting show, but I think I'm more interested in the "realistic" carny life than I am the supernatural elements. Doesn't help that Nick Stahl's character isn't very likeable, although I do like him as an actor. Not sure yet how I feel about the show, but with only two seasons I want to finish it before AHS starts.

Gonna be interesting to see the parallels between the two shows; regardless of the tone, the carnival setting is fun and pretty novel.

Written by Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk

Directed by Ryan Murphy. First episode he directed since the pilot.

Also, This is a prequel to Asylum as Pepper the pinhead is part of the freak show.

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Specifically Kathy Bates snapping at Paulsen and Paulsen calling herself a slut, which made me crack up, and of course Conroy telling Lange how awful her singing was

That clown is scary as fuck

Can't wait to see Chiklis and Bassett next week




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I must admit I thought about this clip during her performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt4SrzibV0

I appreciate that this is a shift from the typical horror story...and I love they have elements of the supernatural intertwined.

And the shout out to the Asylum season? LOVED

Okay...Elsa is fabulous. Love love her and her singing life on Mars. Yes...

Bette and Dot...I figured that Bette (is she the talkative one) was the killer...I can see both of them falling for lobster boy...and I found it odd that Elsa says we dont' do prostitution but isn't the lobster boy smutting out his hands.

The Freak Show porn was disturbing.
The clown is BEYOND disturbing.
Everyone was dying...so much blood and gore.

But yeah...this season looks like it will push the limits. I'm here for it.

I think he's down it on the DL, away from Elsa, him talking about sneaking out

>Bette and Dot...I figured that Bette (is she the talkative
>one) was the killer...I can see both of them falling for
>lobster boy...and I found it odd that Elsa says we dont' do
>prostitution but isn't the lobster boy smutting out his
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Pittsburgh Kathy Bates. I assume Elsa doesn't know.

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Elsa not knowing...I thought of that but then I was like...how would he be able to do that without her knowing...but then again she did try to play him in the diner like "no one would want you once they see the real you" which i think is true.

the ladies love the O's but if he tried to date one of them, they'd be like NAH.

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Did the girl think that her boyfriend (who couldn't wait to get into her pants) planned on pausing before sex to hire a clown to wander out of the woods and perform for her? And that the clown he chose to hire for this completely unbelievable idea would be a very obvious murder clown with blood around his mask?

"You didn't hire him?"

WHY?

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Also my first time watching this show in any capacity.

yeah i'll wait until daytime to watch

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"A lot of people are freaked out by this clown. A couple people walked out on the premiere because they were too upset by the clown. I personally don’t have that phobia but I understand that people do. To them I say, watch it in the daytime because it only gets worse."

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Reminded me of the daytime murder in Zodiac.

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I wonder if the next season will be about a serial killer.

I can't really think of much more...maybe vampires. hmm....

Only lasted about 30 minutes

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I was hesitant going in, not because of the subject matter (Browning's Freaks is actually my favorite movie ever) but because I heard Murphy was directing and he hasn't done that in a while. Visually, Alfonso Gomez-Rejon is who really brings the best out of this show, so not seeing him credited had me worried. That said, Murphy & co. knocked this shit right out of the park. Maybe it was the 90 minute runtime (which the network has allowed for next week as well because Ryan Murphy does whatever the fuck he wants) or maybe Murph Dawg's been taking notes on the fan complaints over the years, but this was paced much slower compared to prior premiere episodes and it benefitted greatly from the containment. Instead of throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us, he focused on a few major characters and developing a coherent set-up. We haven't even met Angela Bassett, Michael Chiklis, Emma Roberts or Dennis O'Hare's characters yet and they are all supposed to play a major role.

I'm torn between what my personal highlight was because as technically astounding and perfectly acted Sarah Paulson's character(s) is/are, I don't think a villain has genuinely creeped me out and stayed in my mind like John Carroll Lynch's Twisty The Clown. This character has the biggest air of mystery around him at the moment: what's his backstory? what's behind the mask? what are his motivations for killing? I'm intrigued, and also kinda scared to find out. Part of why I love this show so much is how it always keeps you guessing, and they definitely opened up with a ton of questions. Did anybody notice how Twisty did not blink once? That scared the crap out of me.

Tonally, this thing is super dark. Like, Asylum dark. Stylistically? It's very lush and colorful, lots of pastels and great period imagery and set-pieces. Maybe Murphy works best when he's doing period stuff and can avoid awkward bits of dialouge like Lange's Twitter reference from last season or Emma Roberts' Eminem reference. Kathy Bates' character isn't as immediately striking as Delphine from last season, but given that this season seems to have a slower and more deliberate pace to it, I'm not willing to immediately write her off as a disappointment, especially since her main antagonist (Chiklis) haven't even arrived yet. I wonder if there will be any other references/through-lines to Asylum in here. Was cool seeing Pepper return.

We're in for a few musical numbers this season, it seems. Lange's "Life On Mars" cover didn't take me out of it, but it was kinda painful to listen to and I loved "The Name Game" and Stevie Nicks stuff last season, albeit however cheesy it was. Maybe that was the point, because Conroy roasted her afterwards. Not sure what Lange's characters real motivations are at the moment, but she's delivering another great performance thus far. The preview for next week shows Paulson (bae) doing a cover of "Criminal" by Fiona Apple and Conroy buying Twisty The Clown for her son. Really excited to see where all this shit goes. Hats off to Murph Dawg and the whole crew. Next week, Gomez-Rejon is up at bat. *evil grin*

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i think Lange's motivations are pretty obvious though. She is a "freak", who is also not talented, but wanted to be a star her whole life and can't let go. she uses the freak show as a vehicle to put the limelight on her, but even still people can see she does not have talent, which why "Life On Mars" came off painful (and cool)

Great cast (especially Paulson) and creepy as hell (the clown and the grainy porn video).

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I don't care if 50 of the nation's top linguists come to my living room and personally explain that it is historically and linguistically perfectly accurate to 19-whenever Baltimore (apparently what she's going for).

That is the worst fucking accent I have ever heard in my life.

It's incomprehensible that she made it past her first line-read without someone lifting the needle off the record and putting a stop to it. It sounds like 5 different bad accents all happening at once.

Still a hugely enjoyable show. I'm not petty enough that this ruins it in any way. It just sounds just so fucking bonkers to me.

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But she sounds damn near Canadian.

I adore Kathy Bates but that accent needs to be reigned in a bit.

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and IDK...I remember someone saying a Baltimore accent was a poor man's version (or a muddled version) of an English accent. a bastardized English accent with an american tone.

I know how ppl sound today (black and white) with a baltimore accent, and no. There were some words she said that fit, now that I know that's the accent she was going for...but overall it wasn't great.

When she was introducing the various attractions of the freak show, she seemed disinterested, like she was doing more cuz she had to. It's obvious she doesn't have the heart or flair of being a barker so she's just kinda going through the motions (like I imagine how she's portraying that accent).

She's maybe a perfect contrast with Lila from Carnivale, who oozes sexiness and charm and grace.... who just so happens to also have a beard.

Though I did just watch the Pawnsylvania sketch on Kroll Show before the premiere.

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