Here we go y'all!!!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=116375

It was announced last week that FX's hit series "American Horror Story" would be adopting a carnival aesthetic for its upcoming fourth season, leading some to speculate that the season may be set around a "freak show," a la Todd Browning's 1932 horror classic, Freaks. Today, series creator Ryan Murphy confirmed that the plan is to do just that, posting the following on Twitter:



Previous reports suggest that "American Horror Story: Freak Show" will be set in the 1950s with Jessica Lange already confirmed to be returning (and said to have been practicing her German accent).

The series' third season, "Coven," featured an ensemble cast that also includes Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Sarah Paulson, Frances Conroy, Gabourey Sidibe, Denis O’Hare, Patti LuPone, Evan Peters, Taissa Farmiga, Lily Rabe and Emma Roberts.

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Hope they give Lange some complete insanity to go out on for her final season.

I'm kinda MEH now on the series. Personally dont really like the carnie vibe and I feel like its been in so much recently (e.g. last season of heroes all about a carnival). PENNY DREADFUL by showtime has my interest, though.

There were definitely direct homages to it in Asylum.

Should get pretty cray.

murderous junkie bisexual prostitute with an over the top Irish accent who will have a scene where she has to deliver a baby in the middle of a monkey cage.

i wasnt sure if i was going to stay if they stuck to strictly horror

cant do horror (unless its camp apparently as pointed out)

so freaks shows some camp promise

and then of course theres angela



and bates and lange
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LOL
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ok
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If that's all you got then just stop now.

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ok.

there are VERY rare exceptions

i came in when it got good for me
the previous seasons the show took itself too seriously
and i'm not a person that feels the need to be horrified
life is real and horrifying enough
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I don't care if it's about grandma's house or mermaids or whatever, I'm tuning in.

Hopefully Murphy stays invested and doesn't get sloppy... the anthology structure should keep the characters and setting fresh at least.

Admittedly, Coven lost some momentum towards the end of the season but overall it was still a lot of fun.

But I love love love how the show both pokes fun and reveres all the classic horror tropes, while turning others on their heads. I love horror in all its forms but it can all too easily become trite and derivative, even in some of my favorite flicks. AHS doesn't just try to follow in the horror genre's footsteps; it's trying to carve its own way and I think AHS is killing it.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/24/american-horror-story-freak-show-details/

Fans have been hoping that the new season of American Horror Story would be set at a carnival, and they’re not soooo far off. Co-creator Ryan Murphy announced via his Twitter account that season 4 will be called Freak Show. But what does that mean exactly? EW has uncovered exclusive new details about the secretive season.

Set in Jupiter, Florida, in 1950, Freak Show finds Jessica Lange playing a German ex-pat who is managing one of the last freak shows in the U.S. Her group of “unusuals”? Kathy Bates, Sarah Paulson, Evan Peters, Angela Bassett, and Frances Conroy all play performers whom Lange’s character has rescued; Denis O’Hare and Emma Roberts are also in talks to return. Freak Show’s 13 episodes will track this group as they do anything to keep their business around.

Maybe this time more of the cast can jump in on the serial killer theme, instead of one or two characters.

I remember a few years ago, a friend of mine and I were not well, and talking about how awesome it would be to go to a modern day freak show. And I'm a big fan of Freaks on top of that, so I'd be all in for this.

when the season starts

and CAN WE PLEASE break it into ep 1-5, 6-10 and 11-13

those 400+ reply threads get very tiresome to navigate through and i feel opens up the space for silly back and forths

just my six cents

or just even two threads, one for the midseason break

Shit got mad unwieldy last time, hah

But some ppl chose to not follow it.
I don't think we should because not everyone is going to follow those rules anyway...and we like to refer back to earlier episodes.

I made episode posts and mofos didn't even post within the thread.

It's gonna get unwieldy no matter what anyways.

>But some ppl chose to not follow it.
>I don't think we should because not everyone is going to
>follow those rules anyway...and we like to refer back to
>earlier episodes.

basically. it was organized very well and wasn't nearly as unwieldy as a lot of posts that go north of 100+ replies....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCULL7NSuI

They say this is gonna be more in line with Season 1. Less camp, more creepy and unsettling. And that makes me VERY happy.

And their next episode previews too.

One thing that they understand so well is generating interest without spoiling anything. Shoutout to the production team for the great work.

I'm about halfway through the first season of Carnivale too. Interesting show, quirkier and less dark than what I was expecting. I'm looking forward to seeing how different carny life is depicted between the two shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKGwySm9nMc

Chiklis literally looks EXACTLY like every stereotypical strong man you've ever seen. Like... insanely identical. Bafflingly identical. Inspired casting.

I'm a Stan for TWD too, but this one might just be at the top this year.

I watched all of Coven, and it was entertaining in a really cheesy, pandering kind of way, but it nowhere near deserves the hype it gets on this forum.

Why does a topic about this show get 400+ posts while quality shows like Justified, The Leftovers, Masters of Sex, Treme, Fargo, and The Americans, to name a few, get far less posts? If you look at it by posts, it would seem that PTP's favorite shows are True Detective and American Horror Story, two shows which couldn't be farther apart in terms of quality and style.

Thoughts?

True Detective: 706
Mad Men: 605
AHS Coven: 568
The Leftovers: 209
Fargo: 197
Justified (S5): 157
The Americans (S2): 80 :(
Masters of Sex (S1): 5 (S2): 15 so far
Treme (S4): 19

Now I see the appeal of AHS, but personally I'd put all those shows far above it. Yet AHS gets an insane number of posts. It's a top 3 show for PTP in the past couple of years, which is really surprising to me because far better shows go underappreciated on here. Does it just lead to more discussion? Trolling? Or are there simply more people watching AHS?

I mean, Emmy nominated horror with Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Sarah Paulson, et al? And it has extremely consistent writing.

... one really can't debate that it delivers perfectly to its audience and the cast is always immaculate.

Furthermore, as I've learned the hard way in the past (such as when I referred to last season as camp and got attacked), AHS has pretty much the most passionate fans on earth. There's no reason to come into a post like this when the passion is apparent and ask why fans like something "shitty." It's not a genuine question.

It's either going to be something people really dig or something they really don't. That's a product of how highly stylized the show is. Not a great deal of in-between opinion.

secondly, it moreseo speaks to the viewers of the show, not the quality of the show (although I disagree with you, I Think the show is great).

If you look at the variety of people posting in these different threads, in AHS, it's usually the same 25-30 ppl and we are active posters...whereas in True Detective it was 100 ppl posting. We actively engage each other in this thread and that's the difference between THIS thread and other shows.

Throughout the years my secret organization has noticed a growing discourse on American Horror Story in the Pass The Popcorn section of the Okayplayer forums. We became concerned that these intellectual debates over fatal vaginas, reassembled Herculean zombies, morbidly obese voodoo masochists, and obligatory resurrections of every dead character were too sophisticated and would eventually lead to societal cooperation and mass spiritual enlightenment. My goal is to create a shred of doubt in the minds of readers that this is actually a campy and horribly written show saved by a strong cast, thereby disassembling the provocative discussions and protecting our NWO & Illuminati.

Or I don't know...maybe I'm just a guy on the internet who feels free to voice his opinion.

I'll still watch the next season. The trailer looks dope and I like the carnival theme (won't be better than Carnivale though). But I've obviously struck a chord if I got aliases coming at me, so I'll let y'all get back to it.

I shut down my old account and made a new one. My original one was lovelyone80 so I'm KNOWN in these threads, my other account is above. LOL.I actually made this account for the sole purpose of this show's thread.

But you can't compare the threads...if you think the show isn't good, then don't watch. if you think other show threads deserve more shine go to that thread and try to engage the posters there...and you will see that community is different that this one...True Detective had a lot of engagement but other than that, ppl just aren't as interested in their fav shows as we are in ours.

and Season 3 is by far the campiest of all the seasons. Also, basing the entirety of your opinion on just the third season seems incomplete.

Season 1 had more traditional horror tropes, while Season 2 stretched the boundaries of the crazy shit they could fit in. All three have fairly distinct themes, and that's a big draw of the show. Season 2 was incredibly dark and bizarre, so the relative lightheartedness of Season 3 was a refreshing change of pace.

as populated?
i didn't watch the prior shows

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Not sure about the first season, but I bet it's archived.

though this was similar to the camp argument you corrected (or was it soul honky...no i think it was you)me on

i've have friends who now dont like the show or dont think its as good because of the camp

then blah blah why not watch better shows etc etc
hummnah hummnah

but hey if they were as popular
there really isnt an argument here
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So if Murphy wants to camp it up, it's not like horror fans have a myriad of options to race off to.

Furthermore, I find that camp is not only useful to break up what may otherwise be unrelentingly grim hours of television, but... it's Murphy's personality. Shining through. It's one of the few TV shows on any network that consistently feels EXACTLY like the author's voice, every line, every episode. I feel like that's a commodity, and cutting back on Murphy's tendency toward camp would likely cut back on the very thing that makes it such an auteur-esque standout.

sorry
not a horror fan
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but again, it's like the same set of ppl, engaging in the convos...random ppl here and there but there are a core of us...

hes picking a different bone than i thought


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZnYOvv1v4

Each year, the opening credits got creepier and scarier. This year, they're kinda...dull.

I pray, pray next year goes back to true horror.

... interesting show, but I think I'm more interested in the "realistic" carny life than I am the supernatural elements. Doesn't help that Nick Stahl's character isn't very likeable, although I do like him as an actor. Not sure yet how I feel about the show, but with only two seasons I want to finish it before AHS starts.

Gonna be interesting to see the parallels between the two shows; regardless of the tone, the carnival setting is fun and pretty novel.

Written by Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk

Directed by Ryan Murphy. First episode he directed since the pilot.

Also, This is a prequel to Asylum as Pepper the pinhead is part of the freak show.

Specifically Kathy Bates snapping at Paulsen and Paulsen calling herself a slut, which made me crack up, and of course Conroy telling Lange how awful her singing was

That clown is scary as fuck

Can't wait to see Chiklis and Bassett next week




@rob_starrk

I must admit I thought about this clip during her performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt4SrzibV0

I appreciate that this is a shift from the typical horror story...and I love they have elements of the supernatural intertwined.

And the shout out to the Asylum season? LOVED

Okay...Elsa is fabulous. Love love her and her singing life on Mars. Yes...

Bette and Dot...I figured that Bette (is she the talkative one) was the killer...I can see both of them falling for lobster boy...and I found it odd that Elsa says we dont' do prostitution but isn't the lobster boy smutting out his hands.

The Freak Show porn was disturbing.
The clown is BEYOND disturbing.
Everyone was dying...so much blood and gore.

But yeah...this season looks like it will push the limits. I'm here for it.

I think he's down it on the DL, away from Elsa, him talking about sneaking out

>Bette and Dot...I figured that Bette (is she the talkative
>one) was the killer...I can see both of them falling for
>lobster boy...and I found it odd that Elsa says we dont' do
>prostitution but isn't the lobster boy smutting out his
>hands.
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@rob_starrk

Pittsburgh Kathy Bates. I assume Elsa doesn't know.

Elsa not knowing...I thought of that but then I was like...how would he be able to do that without her knowing...but then again she did try to play him in the diner like "no one would want you once they see the real you" which i think is true.

the ladies love the O's but if he tried to date one of them, they'd be like NAH.

Did the girl think that her boyfriend (who couldn't wait to get into her pants) planned on pausing before sex to hire a clown to wander out of the woods and perform for her? And that the clown he chose to hire for this completely unbelievable idea would be a very obvious murder clown with blood around his mask?

"You didn't hire him?"

WHY?

"I'm not sure if I should give this boy my virtue. He hasn't even hired a murder clown yet."

Also my first time watching this show in any capacity.

yeah i'll wait until daytime to watch :(

from ew: http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/09/ahs-freak-show-premiere-ryan-murphy/

"A lot of people are freaked out by this clown. A couple people walked out on the premiere because they were too upset by the clown. I personally don’t have that phobia but I understand that people do. To them I say, watch it in the daytime because it only gets worse."

NOPE!

Reminded me of the daytime murder in Zodiac.

I wonder if the next season will be about a serial killer.

I can't really think of much more...maybe vampires. hmm....

Only lasted about 30 minutes

I was hesitant going in, not because of the subject matter (Browning's Freaks is actually my favorite movie ever) but because I heard Murphy was directing and he hasn't done that in a while. Visually, Alfonso Gomez-Rejon is who really brings the best out of this show, so not seeing him credited had me worried. That said, Murphy & co. knocked this shit right out of the park. Maybe it was the 90 minute runtime (which the network has allowed for next week as well because Ryan Murphy does whatever the fuck he wants) or maybe Murph Dawg's been taking notes on the fan complaints over the years, but this was paced much slower compared to prior premiere episodes and it benefitted greatly from the containment. Instead of throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us, he focused on a few major characters and developing a coherent set-up. We haven't even met Angela Bassett, Michael Chiklis, Emma Roberts or Dennis O'Hare's characters yet and they are all supposed to play a major role.

I'm torn between what my personal highlight was because as technically astounding and perfectly acted Sarah Paulson's character(s) is/are, I don't think a villain has genuinely creeped me out and stayed in my mind like John Carroll Lynch's Twisty The Clown. This character has the biggest air of mystery around him at the moment: what's his backstory? what's behind the mask? what are his motivations for killing? I'm intrigued, and also kinda scared to find out. Part of why I love this show so much is how it always keeps you guessing, and they definitely opened up with a ton of questions. Did anybody notice how Twisty did not blink once? That scared the crap out of me.

Tonally, this thing is super dark. Like, Asylum dark. Stylistically? It's very lush and colorful, lots of pastels and great period imagery and set-pieces. Maybe Murphy works best when he's doing period stuff and can avoid awkward bits of dialouge like Lange's Twitter reference from last season or Emma Roberts' Eminem reference. Kathy Bates' character isn't as immediately striking as Delphine from last season, but given that this season seems to have a slower and more deliberate pace to it, I'm not willing to immediately write her off as a disappointment, especially since her main antagonist (Chiklis) haven't even arrived yet. I wonder if there will be any other references/through-lines to Asylum in here. Was cool seeing Pepper return.

We're in for a few musical numbers this season, it seems. Lange's "Life On Mars" cover didn't take me out of it, but it was kinda painful to listen to and I loved "The Name Game" and Stevie Nicks stuff last season, albeit however cheesy it was. Maybe that was the point, because Conroy roasted her afterwards. Not sure what Lange's characters real motivations are at the moment, but she's delivering another great performance thus far. The preview for next week shows Paulson (bae) doing a cover of "Criminal" by Fiona Apple and Conroy buying Twisty The Clown for her son. Really excited to see where all this shit goes. Hats off to Murph Dawg and the whole crew. Next week, Gomez-Rejon is up at bat. *evil grin*

i think Lange's motivations are pretty obvious though. She is a "freak", who is also not talented, but wanted to be a star her whole life and can't let go. she uses the freak show as a vehicle to put the limelight on her, but even still people can see she does not have talent, which why "Life On Mars" came off painful (and cool)

Great cast (especially Paulson) and creepy as hell (the clown and the grainy porn video).

I don't care if 50 of the nation's top linguists come to my living room and personally explain that it is historically and linguistically perfectly accurate to 19-whenever Baltimore (apparently what she's going for).

That is the worst fucking accent I have ever heard in my life.

It's incomprehensible that she made it past her first line-read without someone lifting the needle off the record and putting a stop to it. It sounds like 5 different bad accents all happening at once.

Still a hugely enjoyable show. I'm not petty enough that this ruins it in any way. It just sounds just so fucking bonkers to me.

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But she sounds damn near Canadian.

I adore Kathy Bates but that accent needs to be reigned in a bit.

minnesotan something


really confused
and yep love bates
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and IDK...I remember someone saying a Baltimore accent was a poor man's version (or a muddled version) of an English accent. a bastardized English accent with an american tone.

I know how ppl sound today (black and white) with a baltimore accent, and no. There were some words she said that fit, now that I know that's the accent she was going for...but overall it wasn't great.

When she was introducing the various attractions of the freak show, she seemed disinterested, like she was doing more cuz she had to. It's obvious she doesn't have the heart or flair of being a barker so she's just kinda going through the motions (like I imagine how she's portraying that accent).

She's maybe a perfect contrast with Lila from Carnivale, who oozes sexiness and charm and grace.... who just so happens to also have a beard.

Though I did just watch the Pawnsylvania sketch on Kroll Show before the premiere.

i dont think i can do this

FrankLongo
my horror disliked the last season friends are incredibly happy
but i...
i need something because this clown isnt cool with me
and i'm with latenightmix
i'll be watching in the daytime finger on the ffwd button


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I don't want you have anxiety or heart attack.

You watch what you can watch yo.

I like sleep
Alot
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Once I learned the clown was gone
Phew
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It seemed disjointed to me and I wasn't entirely sure what they were doing with certain scenes. That whole peppermint-girl-turned-whore thing seemed thematically inconsistent with how Elsa treats the rest of her crew. Did she really just recruit that chick to be a sort of drugged up sex slave for her 'monsters'? Filming then showing her that weird carnie porn was especially sadistic towards this girl who initially seemed like a kindred spirit to Elsa. Knowing this show, early impressions will always change but it was a bit offputting.

Dunno... I haven't been as hyped for this upcoming season as I have been with the other three premieres. Maybe because there wasn't much of a plot thus far, just introducing the characters. Although after seeing the previews it looks like the story will be coming together, so looking forward to that. I also wonder if watching Carnivale right before this is coloring my perception of Freak Show.

Lange' s character reminds of her character in the first season; an older desperate woman trying to hold on to youth/fame.

I do like Paulson as the twins, but I can see that getting old.

a carnival orgy. A man being stabbed multiple times in the chest by a killer clown and spewing up blood. Still can't say "fuck" though! That's over the line. Time to just give up on the facade of censorship in this country.

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My nigga Alfonso Gomez-Rejon directed tonight's episode.

...and two musical numbers.

OH, and do remember: Rejon's remake of The Town That Dreaded Sundown comes out tomorrow in limited release and on VOD.

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Two episodes in and Twisty's not even the creepiest person in his own storyline.

the ambiance, the framing, the colors, the tapping, all of it

Wow at the rich, spoiled pyschopath.

Micheal Chikilis's character is crazy.

>Micheal Chikilis's character is crazy.

that dude seems like a real jack ass in real life for some reason

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>>Micheal Chikilis's character is crazy.
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>that dude seems like a real jack ass in real life for some
>reason
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I'm hoping it's good acting
One of those play the part a bit too well things
Abd ugh his character needs to die
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ONE

while the victim is manipulated to believe she wanted it

O_O

I would say we "finally" get to see Twisty's face but it's only episode two so I can't act like it was a long wait but man that reveal! everyone was like OMG.

I love how ppl keep seeing Twisty around, walking around, chilling and they TRY to engage him in conversation like there's nothing wrong with him...like he doesn't look fucked up. How she got him home to play with her son (who is giving me American Psycho crazy) baffles me? And he didn't kill the son? lmao. so obviously he becomes the clown's *apprentice* or helper...a fact we kinda already knew.

I got Bette killing Dot. In some type of homicidal suicidal rage...because she's obviously jealous of Dot...and Elsa knows it and how the hell can you try to get one half of the conjoined twins on your side? like how are y'all being sneaky with another head RIGHT THERE? and I thought they could hear each other's thoughts...it must be a turn on turn off thing...

Anyway. RIP MEEP.

>I love how ppl keep seeing Twisty around, walking around,
>chilling and they TRY to engage him in conversation like
>there's nothing wrong with him...like he doesn't look fucked
>up.

they're kinda making me suspend my belief with twisty. nothing seems normal / not creepy about him, yet people engage him. why didn't he kill the mom or the son... for the son I assume he saw another psychopath and kept it moving

Angela Basset is finer than a mutherfucker and the way she delivered the i'm a full blown hermaphrodite line, shiieeeet

cold what happened to the little dude in jail

yet I'm still not as invested as I was for the previous three seasons. something about the freak show just seems a bit off

Lange's dramatics is honestly starting to wear thin a bit for me, and it sucks because KB is kinda stuck with a no thrills bearded women with a strange accent character. thought their scene at the end had great nuance. Hopefully Bassett can rear her in

Twisty is GREAT

As is Paulson's Two-Head

the fish hands finger bang was strange and awesome, but the opium orgy seemed a bit in poor taste. I'm still on the fence about how AHS portrays rap

anyway I'm def still in, as season 2 was one of the best things TV ever made and last season was @@@@

This is my first season of this show. I'll be binge watching seasons 1-3 soon.

I need to see why folks are hating on Coven, lol. It's got Angela Bassett so I hope I like it.

It was still solid in my opinion and had the most streamlined and focused story throughout out of all the first 3 so far. It also had the most satisfying ending.

But to me Season One is still the best IMO.

They bringing back the two parters from the first two Seasons.

Also, the shit Dot wants to do is crazy.

And Patti LaBelle is killing it!!!

So much that I hope she comes back for another Season.

I would have never thought it would be featured on this show...Can't wait to see part 2.

I don't like old girl who is the "fortune teller"...I wasn't fond of her last season either...like she should be on some teeny bopper show lol...however, the guy she's working with...he must have a freakishly huge member and I wish we could see that.

Anyway, love Dandy. I like how well Finn Wittrock is playing that role...he's actually stealing the show for me...and everyone knows I love me some Lange (can i say i wasn't fond of her performance this week...)

I wonder how the twins are going to work out their issues.

Very good set up episode, i love how they made the halloween one a two parter

- Chiklis is great, and dastardly

- Evan really doing his thing, i'm rocking with him

- Angela manages to make everything sexy

- the twists that tie the characters was great

- That fucking Clown when his mask fell off! Yo that mask is necessary!

- Dandy is not ok, he is NOT ok he might be one of the scariest characters in this whole thing. For all intents and purposes everyone else in Freak show would do anything to be "normal" and Dandy is. He just wants to be a freak. He has freak tendencies underneath, he's a lot more like the clown than we could've ever thought. He's a child, but he's sadistic. His mother is batshit insane. I really like this character.

- EY YOUNG, DAT FIONA!!! You gone just through Criminal in and act like that shit is ok and normal! I damn near jumped off my couch!

This might be my favorite season so far, and I wanted nothing to do with it before the season.

- Did anyone catch that Nod to "Freaks" the old movie?

Like everybody's all in on their character, no mailins. And Patti was a beast there's no way I wouldn't have flinched with that knife on me. I kinda want Twisty to turn against hat boy though he's nuts.

Twisty is gone?


Jessica's Dom scene kicked ass!
and was that a woman peeing in cup????


Twisty blew off his own face, that makes sense. I actually liked that Mordrake took Twisty because he , in a way, was innocent in his denial. He WAS a good clown, he just didnt feed them and made them watch him do clown stuff


And Miss Patti gone too!

i wish i could have seen her beat Dandy with a spoon

Sorry I'm late y'all.

definitely didn't expect Twisty to be gone so early...I thought he'd last a little bit longer. His story was interesting but I need to #actually one thing and that's how he shot himself in the face. it would have made more sense if he had put the gun under his chin, than in his mouth (with his jaw blown off). That's just me.

I really thought Twisty would be this season's "villain" but I guess it's going to be Dandy (of course...). I am glad he came into this own...he's literally my fav person on the show. He's outshining Lange. This has to be my least fav portrayal by Lange...but it's early so I will let it go.

This season is quite disturbing though...and i like how it's not campy like previous seasons. I think it's a bit ironic that the season they do a circus/freak show would be the least campy. I figure that's on purpose and I appreciate it.

I need to watch this one again because i missed some of the part where Elsa is telling Mordrake about the worst time of her life.

SNUFF FILM THO!!!

and was that someone peeing in a cup?

I was wondering why he wasn't as "mysterious" as previous seasons in how the serial killer was portrayed. Sucks he's gone, but knowing this show, I'm guessing there's a chance he's not GONE gone. Pretty cool to see Dandy's full heel turn though... and that's not his *real* name right?

The show is sharper when it's only one hour, instead of 90 minutes. It was fun for the opener but not sure why they continued it three weeks in.

Still not completely sold yet on the season, but I've come around a bit now that the various plotlines are starting to solidify.

How do people who watch this show just accept stuff like that...glad I quit after the 1st season. Writing is just dreadful.

I was expecting something much more believable/realistic. That has been the worst story so far this season, but I'm still in and expect to see some good things as the season progresses.

...and I wonder how that will work given that she's in her 20s in Asylum, she would be in her teens in the 50s? Maybe she was older than I thought?

Obviously we will see the events that lead up to Pepper being committed.

I'm starting to wonder if Elsa is really Jude (remember Jude was a prostitute before she became a nun, Elsa was also a prostitute).

I wonder if something happened that made her run away and hid in the asylum.

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recently read an article that stated all 4 seasons are connected which is hilarious now because they stressed so much during Season 2 that the storylines and seasons were not connected...so in Season 3 when they referenced the Asylum I was like oh. ok.

But then this season we see Pepper (who goes to the Asylum for killing her sister's baby). The nun returns to pick up Pepper? Or confront her? IDK. But yeah.

aka Ryan Murphy's American Psycho

I felt a touch of Monster's Ball too, with the 'Make me feel something' line. Which is slightly ironic considering Angela slammed the movie. Either way, I thought she owned this episode with the doctor's office scene. That's one big ass clitoris if it was used as a penis all these years.

Dandy saying he wasn't a clown was laughable. He's the biggest clown on the show. Francis convoy plays batshit crazy better than any actress out there.

This episode was interesting...I pretty much figured Bassett was having a miscarriage which is odd if she was a hermaphrodite but come to find out she's not but it's obvious her husband is really gay and is using these "freakish" ladies to be normal while still satisfying his real urges for masculinity.

However, now I'm curious to see know how she used her little something extra...she said it was fully functional which i took to mean it could do everything and she tried everything with it...so either this is a writing flaw or she was lying...

This season has a few consistency issues and I feel like it's because they are trying to connect all the seasons when initially that wasn't the plan. This is the first season I've been like "this doesn't make sense..." but that does not take from this show for me, I'm a fan.

Pretty sure Dandy is related to Dr. Thredson from Season 2.
That crazy manifesting all over the place.

He nailed the "desert" monologue at the end. And the cognac baby bottle thing still cracks me up.

i'm here for it

I'm just not invested in any of the characters.

The plot is all over the place, the reveals have been weak or corny

the gore is actually a bit over the top

and Jessica Lange has become snooze fest predictable and annoying. No one, especially a group, is going to trust some one with that many "coincidences". I really hope they kill her off

But I've only seen the previous


They had something with lobster boy and his yearning for normalcy
And dandy with his yearning...homocidal maniac

The rest...
Elsa is annoying
Bates accent is annoying
Gay strong dude so close to something but pretty much a trope
His wife...they made her normal
I just...I miss ma petite and seal man :(
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which isn't saying too much because the other seasons were great but right now...I'm like...this season is ridiculous and i feel they chose this theme because it's what ppl wanted. As I recall I thought initially the season 4 would be a vampires in New Mexico theme...sort of wish that happened because there was so much potential in this season and now it's a "we just want to know how this ends" feel. i'm not that motivated to discuss the shows after (although I do still live tweet it randomly but not as much as i did other seasons).

It's just messy and I have no clue what's really going on...as far as, what's this season really about...it's so many minor story lines, no big story line at all. Twisty should have been introduced later and used more...

or either Dandy should have been the killer throughout the whole thing and we didn't find out until the end...

but nah, Im' not feeling this too much.

RIP to Ma Petite tho.

I have been incrediblely bored this season. Notbnearly as twisted as other seasons, characters fall flat, and the plot is meh. Season 3 fell off at the end but was fun through most of it.

I will watch the rest of the season but I hope season 5 is better.

Some stakes...

Some investment...

Something...

:/

Twisty died and took the rest of the show with him.

Also, why has Gomez-Rejon only directed one episode this season? His visual flair is missing from this season no matter how much the other directors try to replicate it.

Woohoo!!!
























Dear Ms Bates
I love you, love your acting but dear lord I hated that accent.
Wholy and sincerely,
Ladyfresh
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

Arguably one of the better episodes of the season (if not the best so far).

Fitt Wittrock SHINES as Dandy...he should be nominated for best supporting actor (I guess he's a supporting actor? I don't think he's a lead). When he said "i am a God" all i thought about was Kanye West...and you know...he is...cuz all he said was "$1 million cash" and without hesitation the cop turned and shot old girl dead. The confidence Dandy has now that he has come into his own is amazing...well done.

Everything else...i can do without. I just want to watch Dandy.

Although the "strong" man trying to commit suicide was quite interesting to watch...and then I realize that gay men were "freaks" during this time...but I can't help to wonder what that hustle man's penis looks like.

the plot, writing of this season aside, Dandy is the only person who has consistently owned each scene he's in...he's the star of each scene. I don't know if he's too over the top considering the whole season is a bit over the top and crazy.

But i find myself more interested in him than anything or anyone else, and he's not even a major player in the AHS series.

Like, this dude is ranting about how he is the face of god in front of the detective, and he's like "well, I'll roll with this dude?"

i mean, this is a sometimes campy supernatural show so big and over the top flies...i actually thought the musical numbers were too much...and with Dandy i feel like we are watching someone finally delve into madness and the high he gets from it is the greatest thing ever, so yeah, he's very confident and why shouldn't he be, he was right...he won't get in trouble, at least not by this cop.

lol.

I mean dog, 1 mill.

Dude looked at the house and the property and was like "yea they have that laying around"

but her story was the best. At least she seemed better off in the asylum. I might have too go back and watch that season now.

Mare Winningham has played some deplorable characters on this series.

I was impressed with how captivating she is on screen.

No words, just pure emotion in her face and body language.

This was one of the best episodes.

its good to see back story on her since all we knew from Asylum was that she "killed" her nephew. While the story played out, I thought that when she said something was wrong with the baby that the baby was a freak too because it was Pepper's baby (perhaps the sister's husband got her pregnant). I missed a few minutes, so if this was the case, can someone enlighten me? but then he goes "you never bonded with the baby" and I was like oh well it was hers. No? Yes?

anyway nice tie in to Asylum.

Naomi Grossman did a bangup job with pepper.

Man how sad was it to realize she was getting railroaded to the asylum?

Crazy.

i didn't watch the latest ep yet. will do so this weekend.

episodes 5-8 hit a bit of a lag but they are back on track.

neal patrick harris was a great addition. nice to see they found a place for jamie brewer. i wonder if the doll being alive is real or all in his head. cool twilight zone reference.

i want more dandy. my prediction is he ends up buying the freak show, flash forward to next halloween and he performs an act, not realizing the legend of edward mordrake, who will eventually come back with twisty and take dandy. only fitting way for that character to go out.

just hope the twins survive. i love sarah. next week looks cool, more danny huston, who looks like he gives jimmy his hands back similar to how he gave elsa her legs back.

my expectations aren't high
this season has kinda been all over the place

Dandy buys the Freak Show, has a bunch of plans for it, then kills everyone. Okay?

The first 2 episodes and Pepper's episode are great.

This season was so wack I might not be back come October.

Jesus, it was hard to give a fuck.

I was wondering why there weren't updates on this thread... but I guess it's obvious now.

Sucks to hear it was so disappointing... a carnival setting had so much promise.

I'm still looking forward to hearing about next season's premise though. When the show is on, it's really on, and maybe Lange's departure might free up the storyline a bit.

i mean not trash enough to get me to not watch every week
there was some great acting and some of the episodes were good
but something about the story line just didn't flow right
and the finale was MAD weak

hope next season is better.

undeniable the weakest season of all of them. Dandy was one of the few highlights...Neil Patrick Harris also shined in his rather small appearance (that almost seemed unnecessary). It felt like none of the characters were developed...they were just there...acting. I didn't feel a connection or cared for anyone...except Dandy. He was the only one who seemed to OWN their role.

Supposedly next season will be a departure from the first few...I'm hoping they do something more realistic...like a serial killer. They could do a whole season on a zodiac/son of sam type killer...or rather do a cult.

I kept watching but I just really wanted it to be over toward the middle...i kept waiting for a high point in this season that never came.

if angela bassett wasn't in it i don't think i woulda kept watching
like i didn't get how theo shows up for 2 minutes in 2 episodes
like wtf was the point of this nigga?
neil patrick harris character shoulda showed up earlier
i feel like it took them too long to kill that one dude that was trying to take all the freaks out
wish there was more with the giant lady
angela basset's character didn't get enough story
they killed off the clown too early IMO
didn't like how they killed the one girl maggie
it was just mad thrown together imo
jessica lange always does her thing but even her character seemed a bit empty
like her story was mad interesting but the way it was shown was too disjointed and
didn't seem to have a POINT


definitely the weakest season and i really hope that next season is better.

Everything seemed underdevopled and it was all over place at times which I really hated because the talent and potential were all there.
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I'm not even mad about the clown, because he was to serve as the catalyst for Dandy but sheesh, why all these half ass stories? they just left a lot of things open to interpetation which can sometimes be fine but it felt lazy...like no we won't give you more on the freaks lives, when they have 13 episodes to discuss and give background and character development.

Elsa's back story was the most interesting...but how interesting was it that the Axeman (from Coven) was the one Lange didn't want to be with last season but in this season, all she wanted was him. lol.

They build him up in one episode, then he goes nuts and flames out the next week.

Seemed utterly pointless.

dandy should have been gone as fast as that clown
what an annoying character

neil did great that was too fast though

not sure i cared about jessica langes character anymore at the end

dunno there were some good episodes but it feels like it got muddled and wanted me to enjoy aspects that just werent good
the clown
dandy
eva

very meh characters

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You cannot hate people for their own good.

Finally finished watching...why the fuck did they give her her last show if they knew she was about to be aired out?

Made no sense. What a waste. Now I know why it was sitting on my DVR for months.

Good riddance.