Late Passes will abound in this jount, if you dont like that...click back now...im gonna do some yapping abt myself for a lil while so its no immd but its coming so dont say i didnt warn u ok...now on w/ the show


yeah i just saw it, im 30 & married w/ 2 kids under 5, a full time job & in night school...time is precious

now on paper...this shit is TAILOR made for a brother like myself. Blk guy, weaponry, loner, human flesh feasting zombies, apolocalpyse scenario, world population crash etc etc...when i 1st saw the ads i was literally thinking of ruining my perfect attendence @ the gig record to play hooky & catch it...ffwd a few months (yrs? whatever i lose track of time) & i finally get to catch my tivo'd version

put the kids to bed, wifey is comatose on the sofa...aka NO ITERRUPTIONS...im massively geeked


1.5 hrs later & im disappointed

ok, off the top...NO MILITARY OFFICER WOULD EVER HAVE A BEARD!!!!! EVER!!! thats ridiculous off the break.

2) the water system hasnt broken down? shenanigans.

3) dudes wife is wrongly read w/ the lil eyescanner thing...he pulls rank w/ his beard & makes the non com read her again...shes clear...how many ppl were incorrectly read? i get that might be a plot point but still that bothered me.

4) Will is a LtCol...in his 30s? cmon dog. MAYBE if he was a MD...but a scientist? i dont think so.

5) did he set the trap that ultimately caught himself? when he sees the mannequin somewhere he didnt put it, he spazzes...and gets caught in the same kind of trap he set that caught the female zombie w/ the nice rack (i just KNEW will would save her & she'd be his love interest i was looking forward to seeing some zombie nipples)

6) when he got caught in the trap...what knocked him out? all he did was get snatched up by the ankle, he should have been cool

7) when he got snatched up it was broad day. by the time he came out of it it was almost dusk...zombie time.
a) the flood of blood to his brain from hanging upside down that long would have killed him.
b) the heavy cable trap would have @ least fucked his ankle up, if not tearing it off...that was a CAR that pulled him up, not some simple shit.
c) there was a sliver of light keeping the zombie dogs @ bay until it was too late...wasnt NO zombies BEHIND him...somewhere beyond the truck? cmon fam

8) them lil ass generators powered all the electricity he had on in the house & in the lab? cmon fam

9) what was the head zombies damn DEAL? dude had a severe hard on for will.

10) if he was really trying to off himself @ the end, why drive the truck out to the rendevous? just walk outside after dark w/ your grenade & take yourself out w/ a gang of zombies...as he did

11) the lady & kid hid in a chimney or something that protected them from the blast when will blew himself up...why didnt it bring the whole townhouse down?


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>
>6) when he got caught in the trap...what knocked him out? all
>he did was get snatched up by the ankle, he should have been
>cool
>


He hit the back of his head knocking him out...the blood dripping from his noggin to the puddle below was from when he hit his noggin


>9) what was the head zombies damn DEAL? dude had a severe hard
>on for will.


The zombie Will captured was his girl...no more zombie pussy for the leader

>2) the water system hasnt broken down? shenanigans.

It's only been 3 yrs since the outbreak of the virus, so it's conceivable that it hasn't broken down completely...

>
>3) dudes wife is wrongly read w/ the lil eyescanner thing...he
>pulls rank w/ his beard & makes the non com read her
>again...shes clear...how many ppl were incorrectly read? i get
>that might be a plot point but still that bothered me.

so you telling me Officers in the history of U.S. Military have NEVER pulled Rank on a subordinate? EVER? come on


>4) Will is a LtCol...in his 30s? cmon dog. MAYBE if he was a
>MD...but a scientist? i dont think so.

if he is in his late 30s, say 39. let's say he graduated from West Pt at 22 that automatically makes him a 2nd lt, that gives him 17 yrs to make Lt Colonel is it really that inconceviable


>5) did he set the trap that ultimately caught himself? when he
>sees the mannequin somewhere he didnt put it, he spazzes...and
>gets caught in the same kind of trap he set that caught the
>female zombie w/ the nice rack (i just KNEW will would save
>her & she'd be his love interest i was looking forward to
>seeing some zombie nipples)

I think he did set the trap himself...although it is plausible also in my opinion that the Zombies copy catted him after seeing the female zombie get captured...


>
>6) when he got caught in the trap...what knocked him out? all
>he did was get snatched up by the ankle, he should have been
>cool

he hit his head when he got snatched up

>
>7) when he got snatched up it was broad day. by the time he
>came out of it it was almost dusk...zombie time.
> a) the flood of blood to his brain from hanging upside
>down that long would have killed him.
> b) the heavy cable trap would have @ least fucked his
>ankle up, if not tearing it off...that was a CAR that pulled
>him up, not some simple shit.
> c) there was a sliver of light keeping the zombie dogs @
>bay until it was too late...wasnt NO zombies BEHIND
>him...somewhere beyond the truck? cmon fam


>
>8) them lil ass generators powered all the electricity he had
>on in the house & in the lab? cmon fam

this lil ass generator right here gives you 10,500 watts
http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/modeldetail.aspx?page=modeldetail§ion=P2GG&modelname=EB11000&modelid=EB11000K1A


>9) what was the head zombies damn DEAL? dude had a severe hard
>on for will.

he kidnapped his girlfriend...and up to that point Neville thought that the zombies didn't socialize to that extent to form significant bonds, ole boy coming after him proved otherwise
>

>he kidnapped his girlfriend...and up to that point Neville
>thought that the zombies didn't socialize to that extent to
>form significant bonds, ole boy coming after him proved
>otherwise

Tells us that though Humans regress with the
disease, we don't lose all of what makes us uniquely
human.

Love can't be conquered...even when all our other
faculties have disappeared. Makes a commentary about
what it means to truly be a human. Sort of in there
with the Bob Marley theme about the doing things out
of love, and for the human spirit, etc.

sort of a sappy point, but it was done correctly
because it was implicit. They didn't beat us over the
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>>he kidnapped his girlfriend...and up to that point Neville
>>thought that the zombies didn't socialize to that extent to
>>form significant bonds, ole boy coming after him proved
>>otherwise
>
>Tells us that though Humans regress with the
>disease, we don't lose all of what makes us uniquely
>human.
>

Alpha Male was CLEARLY Hell Bent on killing him. Neville realized it as he was trying to explain to him: "I CAN HELP YOU!!!!"

Alpha Male didn't care, and Neville knew that he was not going to stop trying to get him ( out of revenge or whatever).

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>ok, off the top...NO MILITARY OFFICER WOULD EVER HAVE A
>BEARD!!!!! EVER!!! thats ridiculous off the break.

LOL. Niggas are forgiving when the world is falling apart,
fam

>2) the water system hasnt broken down? shenanigans.

It actually doesn't take place that long after everyone
died. Water system could conceivably be just fine.

>3) dudes wife is wrongly read w/ the lil eyescanner thing...he
>pulls rank w/ his beard & makes the non com read her
>again...shes clear...how many ppl were incorrectly read? i get
>that might be a plot point but still that bothered me.

Uh. That is a plot point, toughguy.


>4) Will is a LtCol...in his 30s? cmon dog. MAYBE if he was a
>MD...but a scientist? i dont think so.

My guess is that he was a doctor/scienist first hired by
the military. Happens all the time. He's probably in his
very late 30s.

Alternatively If he finished college at 22, and medical school
by 26/27, he'da been training clinically into his early 30s,
at which point with his expertise he could have risen ranks
quite quickly; I have military doc friends who ENTER out of
medical school as high non-enlisted ranks.

Just think about Dustin Hoffman from 'Outbreak'. He
was a scientist first, military guy second.

Lotsa ways that's possible

>5) did he set the trap that ultimately caught himself? when he
>sees the mannequin somewhere he didnt put it, he spazzes...and
>gets caught in the same kind of trap he set that caught the
>female zombie w/ the nice rack (i just KNEW will would save
>her & she'd be his love interest i was looking forward to
>seeing some zombie nipples)

Yeah, this is a point of great debate, but it works
either way. Part of the subplot is how he's losing
his mind. He very well might have set that trap.

>6) when he got caught in the trap...what knocked him out? all
>he did was get snatched up by the ankle, he should have been
>cool

whiplash can do that. People get knocked unconscious
from roller coasters. And he's already not in the best
mental health; probably not eating or sleeping very well.

>7) when he got snatched up it was broad day. by the time he
>came out of it it was almost dusk...zombie time.
> a) the flood of blood to his brain from hanging upside
>down that long would have killed him.

LOL. Wrong. Your heart has the contractile strength
to keep everything moving just fine. His heart rate would
have increased because of the pooling in his head, but
overall he'da been fine

> b) the heavy cable trap would have @ least fucked his
>ankle up, if not tearing it off...that was a CAR that pulled
>him up, not some simple shit.

You can hang upside down for quite awhile. You'll feel
fucked up, but I don't really get your point

>8) them lil ass generators powered all the electricity he had
>on in the house & in the lab? cmon fam

Uh. This isn't unrealistic at all. He lives by himself,
doesn't use a lot of light and needs some in his
lab for a few hours a day.

>9) what was the head zombies damn DEAL? dude had a severe hard
>on for will.

Will's specimen was his girl

>11) the lady & kid hid in a chimney or something that
>protected them from the blast when will blew himself up...why
>didnt it bring the whole townhouse down?

Because it didn't. A strongly built house can survive
tornadoes, dunny




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￭￭￭￭

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>
>ok, off the top...NO MILITARY OFFICER WOULD EVER HAVE A
>BEARD!!!!! EVER!!! thats ridiculous off the break.
>

Not true. My boy entered the Navy and when they saw how bad his razor bumps were they let him grow his shit out.

Fun is the new gritty

>11) the lady & kid hid in a chimney or something that
>protected them from the blast when will blew himself up...why
>didnt it bring the whole townhouse down?
>
>


it was a tunnel ( or some type of Coal Delivery chute), so if anything, it was probably underground, which made it pretty stable.


And they closed the door ( which looked to be like a heavy fire door of some sort ) after them...

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HOW THE HELL did the chic drive with the shorty to NY to save WILL...I mean they said they heard the broadcasts and DROVE from Vermont somewhere i forget to get up with him....THE MILITARY blew up all the bridges and exits so no one could enter and exit....WTF

THEN they plan to DRIVE out of town to the retreat or wherever the survivors are....


I don't get it.



I guess with the timing of the showing up with the lights to save Will you are not supposed to wonder how the hell she got there i guess...

how'd she hear abt vermont?

how'd she protect herself & the kid?

how'd she get into OR out of NYC?

>how'd she hear abt vermont?

They still had power, so it might stand to reason that shit like Email and the internet still work. Maybe the people in the safe areas sent out messages and directions...


>
>how'd she protect herself & the kid?
>

I'm assuming if you stay mobile you might be safe. Also, I'm assuming that there weren't many Rural Zombies. So if they came from Vermont or somewhere without a lot of hiding places (like abandoned buildings for Zombies to make hives ), then they'd be safer than in a big city.


>how'd she get into OR out of NYC?

not sure about the streets and roads in reality, so I can't answer that.


>
>

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>...THE
>MILITARY blew up all the bridges and exits so no one could
>enter and exit....WTF

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did she get her jaw busted?

>HOW THE HELL did the chic drive with the shorty to NY to save
>WILL...I mean they said they heard the broadcasts and DROVE
>from Vermont somewhere i forget to get up with him....THE
>MILITARY blew up all the bridges and exits so no one could
>enter and exit....WTF

Given that the zombies are actually pretty intelligent,
it wouldn't surprise me if they recreated some sort of connection
between Manhattan and New Jersey or Manhattan and the Bronx
so that they could leave the island and eat more people.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me. You actually don't need
much of a bridge to connect Manhattan to one of several
large land masses.


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>
>Given that the zombies are actually pretty intelligent,
>it wouldn't surprise me if they recreated some sort of
>connection
>between Manhattan and New Jersey or Manhattan and the Bronx
>so that they could leave the island and eat more people.
>
>That seems perfectly reasonable to me. You actually don't
>need
>much of a bridge to connect Manhattan to one of several
>large land masses.
>


they ( the Zombies ) knew their own limitations; meaning they knew not to go out in direct sunlight as opposed to unintelligent beings that might've been offing themselves by just wandering around during the day.

So, I'm thinking that they might've figured out something during the night time hours when they roamed the streets. Maybe they found something floatable and moved back and forth.

AND didn't they attack Neville at the dock? Meaning they were hanging around near the waterfront. Possibly looking for a way off/on the island.

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Maybe shorty drove to Manhattan using one of the tunnels like the Lincoln Tunnel or something, but zombies ain't build no bridges.

>
>>HOW THE HELL did the chic drive with the shorty to NY to
>save
>>WILL...I mean they said they heard the broadcasts and DROVE
>>from Vermont somewhere i forget to get up with him....THE
>>MILITARY blew up all the bridges and exits so no one could
>>enter and exit....WTF
>
>Given that the zombies are actually pretty intelligent,
>it wouldn't surprise me if they recreated some sort of
>connection
>between Manhattan and New Jersey or Manhattan and the Bronx
>so that they could leave the island and eat more people.
>
>That seems perfectly reasonable to me. You actually don't
>need
>much of a bridge to connect Manhattan to one of several
>large land masses.
>
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>
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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
-unknown

"To Each His Reach"
-George Clinton

Manhattan is barely an island, doggie

not every bridge between it and the other landmasses
ain't a GW bridge

But I feel you

the Lincoln Tunnel would do the job

that be like goign to the hood w/ a fuck obama t-shirt on...u are basically LOOKING to get beat down


Inside my mind looks like Denzel's back in Glory - Dave Chappelle

>that be like goign to the hood w/ a fuck obama t-shirt on...u
>are basically LOOKING to get beat down

=============================
-sans sig

....so she can just ball thru them joints!
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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
-unknown

"To Each His Reach"
-George Clinton

>THE MILITARY blew up all the bridges and exits so no one could
>enter and exit....WTF

WHERE THE FUCK THIS CHICK COME FROM?

WHERE THE FUCK WAS SHE GOING AT THE END OF THE MOVIE?

THEY BLEW UP THE BRIDGES HOW THE HELL SHE GET OUT OF NY?

why the hell does everyone call them zombies?

Fun is the new gritty

that eat human flesh & can only come out @ night? werewolves?


Inside my mind looks like Denzel's back in Glory - Dave Chappelle

1) Zombie can come out day or night, especially in Romero films

2) the monsters in I Am Legend kill by biting and die if exposed to sunlight. We call those vampires

Fun is the new gritty

i really don't understand why people keep calling them zombies. Them not being able to come out at night should be an obvious indicator.

Inside my mind looks like Denzel's back in Glory - Dave Chappelle

- Dub

I give rappers the biz for being m-izza-a-archaic.

.

He is their boogie man.. He went around killing their people and hunting them.. Stealing their food and what not.. Thats why its called "I am Legend" he is their legend.. Like someone said Will didnt realize the extent of their socializing he thought they were crazy with no capacity for organization.. and was proven wrong when they copied his trap on a broader scale.. So to prove to be the head dude.. zombie dude had to kill will so their society can move on..

and when i can im gonna build a castle that touches the clouds,
not to get closer to god but to get further from y'all

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>He is their boogie man.. He went around killing their people
>and hunting them.. Stealing their food and what not.. Thats
>why its called "I am Legend" he is their legend.. Like someone
>said Will didnt realize the extent of their socializing he
>thought they were crazy with no capacity for organization..
>and was proven wrong when they copied his trap on a broader
>scale.. So to prove to be the head dude.. zombie dude had to
>kill will so their society can move on..

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You need to be familiar w/the book to get some of this

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I was just clarifying why lead dude was so after him.. I agree the book explains it better but most movie from books are like that.. he asked why and i tried to explain what others werent hitting on

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Love and humanity was the whole point of this flick

The Bob Marley theme gave that away to me

The nigga Will had my man's girl

Nothing can strip the human spirit of love,
doggie

We'll always fight for the shit we believe
in, for the things we love

Like Will still trying to save the world
despite everyone he knows being dead

I knew this wasn't no dumb ass "zombie" movie

You have to be smart to get that, and most
people ain't.

Waaaaay too smart a movie for the audience it
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for me & dummies of my ilk who hadnt read the book


Inside my mind looks like Denzel's back in Glory - Dave Chappelle

to everyone.. its considered one of the greatest vampire novels of all time.. the movie leaves a lot out and the book hits on all of your questions.. the movie strayed pretty far from the book but kept themes.. but overall if you even like that scene of fiction you will love the book.. and understand why im against the prequel

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thats defn on my get list, when this xmas swag starts rolling in, 1 of the 1st places im stopping to do returns is barnes & nobles


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In the book Will Smith was a fleshed out vampire hunter, and the vampires themselves were smart and 'human', enough for...


******SPOILERS TO THOSE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO READ THE BOOK******



Him to actually live with and begin to fall for one.



***********************END SPOILERS******************************





In the movie, they had the bare minimum of human intelligence (although they were hinting they were getting smarter). They were basically animals. Obviously they felt a kinship to each other, like animals would to family.

But that whole boogieman nonsense would require much higher thought then the zombies had in the movie. It's not like they had a realization moment like Romero let happen with that recent zombie movie he did with Leguezamo and Hopper.

when they began targeting the dog.. and fucked with his emotions on that trap.. they knew he was lonely.. and in the book it was a lot longer time frame than in the movie.. say as you will but those jawns in the movie were smart.. not as smart as in the book but smart enough to pull off the attacks they did.

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wills lil special commentary section where he's like all semblance to human beings is gone after dude basically commited solar seppuku

it'd be different if will was like 'they are becoming smarter...' he said they are becoming dumber




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I never watched the dvd or special commentary.. I took it upon my own impression.. i dont see how they were becoming less smart if they pulled that stunt on him.. so i cant comment on that..

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one especially rabid zombie/vampire/werewolf whatever is going for him, sun be damned...& gets fried

will goes home & does a lil de-brief for posterity w/ his super glasses that are really hitech webcams & mentions how the zombie didnt seem to care abt the sun...hence losing the most basic of human impulses, self preservation...hence less human & "dumber"

thats what i took from it @ least


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>one especially rabid zombie/vampire/werewolf whatever is
>going for him, sun be damned...& gets fried
>
>will goes home & does a lil de-brief for posterity w/ his
>super glasses that are really hitech webcams & mentions how
>the zombie didnt seem to care abt the sun...hence losing the
>most basic of human impulses, self preservation...hence less
>human & "dumber"
>
>thats what i took from it @ least

That was Will's bias leading him to misunderstand what he just saw.

Let's put it this way, Will ran into their nest, which was essentially one big death trap, for the sake of his dog. The Vampire leader ran into the sunlight when Will took his girl. When you care about something, you ignore the danger. That's evident in higher level reasoning, not lower.

Fun is the new gritty

>Let's put it this way, Will ran into their nest, which was
>essentially one big death trap, for the sake of his dog. The
>Vampire leader ran into the sunlight when Will took his girl.
>When you care about something, you ignore the danger. That's
>evident in higher level reasoning, not lower.

knocked will out the window & just fricasseeed himself


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I don't want to harp on the 'ITS DIFFERENT ON THE BOOK'. But it IS different from the book, lol.

But im kinda surprised you guys are giving the zombies/mutants this much credit even the screenwriter. He purposely took out the smart vampire/Will Smith is the badguy angle, its not surprising Will Smith confirmed it in the commentary with the 'they are dumb' comment

Yeah, he cared about the female, but your going to see examples of that all over the animal kingdom of animals protecting their own.

The hook in the book of the Will Smith being the badguy looking at big picture is not in the movie at all. The book beats it over your head with him waking up everyday and hunting them down in cold blood during daylight Buffy the Vampire Slayer style while making grim jokes about it. The hunting quests kept the book character sane. This could have done it in the movie, but it would have been a darker/more violent movie and it would have taken away Will Smith's chance to go try to beat Tom Hanks at the 'Cast Away' stranded man acting category

He was a complete and total pussy and avoided confrontation at all cost except when he tried to capture a few to'cure' them (which the character in the book was doing in addition to his hunting quests).

They give the mutants/vamps enough to make them human and give the movie more of a shade. Imho, this played more into the 'there is some human left in them' rather then Will Smith being the actual badguy...the whole we can cure the apocalypse aspect that is inherent to the movie with his self-sacrifice and the cure.

In the book when he eventually gets caught they are cowering in fear of him, dozens of vamps, even though he's in chains. There is no curing of the apocalypse because the world is now a world of vampires...mankind has moved on and he's the freak.

Two totally different stories.

Between the film and the book. Sounds like y'all
just mad, or something. Or just looking for something
to cry about.

Its always better when the film decides to take
a completely different angle than the book, because
then the purists can't be pretentious and whine that
"they butchered the story." By changing the story
fundamentally, they left the book, and its legacy,
alone.

This is, ironically, why 'I Robot' was also good
and avoided the sci fi nerds' bitching and moaning:
it held onto the robot law fundamentals, but did so
in a completely different story. By doing that Everyone
wins: We got an excellent movie(people don't like to admit
it, but 'I Robot' was stellar) and the book's legacy is
left alone.

Same with 'I Am Legend': The book remains what it
was, and yet I got an enjoyable, excellent fuckin
movie out of it.

Sounds like y'all just invent shit to hate.

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> By changing the story
>fundamentally, they left the book, and its legacy,
>alone.


because lets face a large majority of the people who saw the movie, don't give a damn about the book(and that goes for any movie adaptation of a book, not just I Am Legend)

but in all honesty that shit shouldnt have been called "i am legend" since it doesnt hit on the topic of why he is legend at all.. Would that shit have been just as good if called "Last man Standing" yes yes it would.. and guess what itd probably be better..

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they dont explain anything.. they drop you off in the middle of a zombie flick and tell you to understand.. will's acting is what made that movie good..thats why this post was started because someone didnt understand many of the premises they force you to take.. so everyone explained and if you look at the detailed responses for the most part are heavily book orientated.. which goes back to the original point if you dont want to be compared with a book change the effing title

and when i can im gonna build a castle that touches the clouds,
not to get closer to god but to get further from y'all

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>they dont explain anything.. they drop you off in the middle
>of a zombie flick and tell you to understand.. will's acting
>is what made that movie good..thats why this post was started
>because someone didnt understand many of the premises they
>force you to take.. so everyone explained and if you look at
>the detailed responses for the most part are heavily book
>orientated.. which goes back to the original point if you dont
>want to be compared with a book change the effing title


and I had no trouble understanding the flick. so i don't really think that's a valid argument. the vast majority of people who went to see the film, i'm willing to bet never read the book either.

I have to admit I feel it would have been a much better movie if they stuck to the book in this case, but not for the reasons above. In general, however, Im not a purist, and I am not niave to think that following the book automatically makes a better movie. Would the Bourne movies have been as good if he had a wife and kids and lived a suburban life? Of course not.

My beef came in with reply 21+22, when everyones like 'THATS WHAT THE MOVIE WAS ABOUT'.

No. That's what the book was about.

Your trying to make the movie much deeper then it was, when the movie barely hinted at it's book origins.

The book story wouldn't have worked, because it would
have required another half an hour of footage explaining
the inner-workings of the vampire psyche and society.
Unlike 'The Dark Knight', 'I am Legend' did not receive
a free pass from critics, and had to end in a decent
amount of time. It decided it would sacrifice a half hour
of extra footage, and went with what it had.

Personally, the movie was long enough as it is. It
didn't need an single extra scene, and very few
scenes were wasted.

Besides, this is a MOVIE where I'd prefer the story
delve into details of the protagonist, and not the
taxation laws of the vampire society. They film did
just that -- sacrificed nerdy book details about the
vampire society and gave us a compelling protagonist.

Much better fit for a film.

Even better, the film made allusions to the things
you're talking about in the book, so if you did read
the book or are intelligent like me, than you picked
the stuff up the first time you saw it.

Again - everyone wins:

The pretentious dickhead nerds like you have their
movie.

Smart people like me have a smart movie and a fun
movie.

Dumb niggas have a zombie flick.

Fucking awesome, and a blueprint more films should
follow.

Its been a couple of years since I read the story, but I don't remember any of that. If I remember correctly only hints you got were his observations that some of the vampires were more like zombies then others pretty smart when he was hunting them down.

When the vampire chick tricks him into thinking she's human she hinted at it with her questions and eventually with her warning note. This would have been the same exact sequence as when the woman and daughter first showed up, so I don't see how this would have wasted more time.

This isn't the Blade series, it would have taken no exposition whatsoever to show what was really happening, just a few hints.

Ill say that Will Smith being alone was probably a better movie then hollywood would have pulled off than the daytime vampire-hunter aspect...simply because they have beaten that to death in recent years. But when they started introducing actual badguys in the movie, it failed. At the end of the day it was a mediocre movie.

>Its been a couple of years since I read the story, but I
>don't remember any of that. If I remember correctly only
>hints you got were his observations that some of the vampires
>were more like zombies then others pretty smart when he was
>hunting them down.

No, that would have introduced all sorts of shit that
required MORE explaining.

And the way it played out, it was perfect:

Keep the Zombie story interesting, but simple.

Put the burden of the script on uncovering Will Smith's
story, his psychological problems, his motivations for
living at all, his daily routine, and his plan of action.

All were done exceptionally well. Exceptionally well.

And all contribute to a more interesting film than some
nerdfest about Vampires and zombies. No one gives a shit.


>This isn't the Blade series, it would have taken no exposition
>whatsoever to show what was really happening, just a few
>hints.

Yeah, but a "few hints" wouldn't have been enough, because
you nerds would have still moaned and whined about it
not being the book. What they did instead was say "fuck the
nerds, we're doing a story about a compelling protagonist
with issues."

'I am Legend' was like a better, more edgy 'Cast Away.'

It had all the feel of 'Cast Away' on a much more interesting
backdrop, featuring a much better performance.


>Ill say that Will Smith being alone was probably a better
>movie then hollywood would have pulled off than the daytime
>vampire-hunter aspect...simply because they have beaten that
>to death in recent years. But when they started introducing
>actual badguys in the movie, it failed. At the end of the day
>it was a mediocre movie.

LOL. Badguys?

Motherfucka, the movie was NOT ABOUT NO BADGUYS.

It was about MOTIVATION.

It was about STRUGGLE.

It was a new age CREATION'S MYTH.

Its about the story of Jesus, and all those great
people who live in lore, and the power of sacrificial
acts.

That's what the fuck the movie was about.

It wasn't about no goddamn zombie, so please, shut that
dumb shit up.


Nerd.



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go head w/ all that

as for being the nerdiest motherfucker on earth...u say that like its a bad thing


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>go head w/ all that
>
>as for being the nerdiest motherfucker on earth...u say that
>like its a bad thing

Its not about JESUS literally, Einstein

Its about how sacrificial acts create legends.

I personally don't believe Jesus was the son of
god, but I do think he was a great person who did
wonderful sacrificial things for people and had a
legend built around him.....not to be sacrilgious,
but that's sort of how Will Smith was in the movie

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and im even more pissed.. youre right they tried to make neville this sacrificial lamb.. when that ninja was murking dudes and what not.. ugh i now hate that movie more than i did yesterday.. thats too cookie cutter for me.. he had too many flaws to be the sacrificial lamb.. i feel like that was too easy.. they took the guaranteed money way out.. instead of pushing the envelope..

and when i can im gonna build a castle that touches the clouds,
not to get closer to god but to get further from y'all

- Slug



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>and im even more pissed.. youre right they tried to make
>neville this sacrificial lamb.. when that ninja was murking
>dudes and what not.. ugh i now hate that movie more than i did
>yesterday.. thats too cookie cutter for me.. he had too many
>flaws to be the sacrificial lamb..

What in god's name are you talking about?

"Murking dudes?"

"Flawed?"

He FOUND A CURE TO THE MOTHERFUCKING ILLNESS
THAT HAD WIPED OUT HUMAN CIVILIZATION, DUMBASS.

And he basically committed suicide, to
secure the chances of the cure being able
to reach others.

Not to mention the possibility that the cure
might be given to the existing zombies, if
their neurological damage isn't irreversible
(a nerdy detail that I'm glad wasn't explored)

If that ain't heroic, I don't know what the
fuck is.


And even better: He *wasn't* perfect, which is
sort of the POINT: You're defined ultimately
by your actions. If you do legendary shit for
others, you're a legend. He was borderline
schizo-paranoid. He was definiely depressed.
He wasn't some knight-in-shining-armor.

He was just a scientist who had a hunch,
and was right.


i feel like that was too
>easy.. they took the guaranteed money way out.. instead of
>pushing the envelope..

"Pushing the envelope?"

Like that dumbass vampire society film with "twists?"

That film would be awful and no one would see it.

Except you and some Okayplayers.



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I wanted him to fail.. and be some other type of legend.. you and dumbasses unable to think past good and bad.. and black and white.. are the reason this movie was made.. why do you think denzel won as a bad guy.. it pushed the envelope and took him outside his element.. i thought this was wills chance instead they bitched up and made the movie that wont make your brain hurt.. lets get everyone feeling good and remind them of jesus.. will smith is good and accessible and would never be wrong.. he was killing the majority of species on manhattan.. yes he was trying to save them.. but he was still killing them.. he would kidnap them and run tests on him.. there are many moral issues with that especially with no proof anyone else was alive.. he was the minority yet he had the firepower to win.. and he did that.. but still it was safe..

and when i can im gonna build a castle that touches the clouds,
not to get closer to god but to get further from y'all

- Slug



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>I wanted him to fail.. and be some other type of legend.. you
>and dumbasses unable to think past good and bad.. and black
>and white.. are the reason this movie was made.. why do you
>think denzel won as a bad guy.. it pushed the envelope and
>took him outside his element..

Actually, Denzel won because it was lifetime
achievement award for the other times he should
have won. And that year was as good a year as ever
to give it to him, because 'Beautiful Mind' was going
to win Best Picture anyway and Russel Crowe already
had an Oscar of 'Gladiator'.

And there's hardly anything "pushing the envelope"
about a corrupt cop tale. That was a fun movie,
but hardly "pushing the envelope."

Sometimes the simple shit "pushes the envelope"
the most.

i thought this was wills chance
>instead they bitched up and made the movie that wont make your
>brain hurt..

>lets get everyone feeling good and remind them of
>jesus..

Actually, what made the film good is that Will
was sick in the head, schizophrenic, talking to
inanimate objects, probably suicidal.

That's what made the film excellent, specifically.
That is actually fairly rare for a protagonist.

Its actually cool - the fact that he was sick and
obsessive is probably what led him to the cure. His
obsession with it was tied to his other mental
illnesses. Very cool.

>will smith is good and accessible and would never be
>wrong.. he was killing the majority of species on manhattan..
>yes he was trying to save them.. but he was still killing
>them..

LOL

What the fuck else was he supposed to do?

No, seriously:

What the fuck else was he supposed to do?

No, answer the question:

Did the Zombies want to play playstation with
Will?

They would have KILLED HIM, whether he had ole
boys girlfriend, or not(Yes, they would have).


>he would kidnap them and run tests on him.. there are
>many moral issues with that especially with no proof anyone
>else was alive.. he was the minority yet he had the firepower
>to win.. and he did that.. but still it was safe..

Oh, trust me -- I'm all about medical ethics.

But not when there's virus that has wiped out
human civlization. Me and you both would kindap
a zombie in the effort to find a cure.

So, I ask again:

What the fuck else was he supposed to do?

No, but what the fuck else was he supposed to do?

Answer the question.

What, in Will Smith's case, was he supposed to do?




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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"

he was supposed to kill fools and not feel bad.. he was supposed to hunt and kill and continue to do so until they killed him.. and guess what we would have had my original premise based on the book.. will as the bad guy not knowing he was the bad guy until the last minute.. nice playing this game though..

and when i can im gonna build a castle that touches the clouds,
not to get closer to god but to get further from y'all

- Slug



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thats some BS

if will was revealed @ the end to be a crazed psychotic killer (which is what i was hoping) it'd have been SWEET


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Happy would have been him and the girl moving
to the sanctuary and making a new family of
Barack Obama looking niglets.

And psychotic killer? LOL. You're just kidding,
I know, but that's stupid even as a joke.

>if will was revealed @ the end to be a crazed psychotic killer
>(which is what i was hoping) it'd have been SWEET

Man, fuck that shit.

My life is hard enough.

I don't need Hollywood to provide me with sad endings.
Reality ends sad. I know that life is hard.

I don't like ga-ga-goo-goo happy endings, but there's
nothing wrong with a nice, inspirational story, even
if it is gritty.

Hell, 'Saving Private Ryan' is the same way.

The ending isn't "Happy" but it is "inspirational."

Those are actually as cinematicaly challenging
as these PROFOUND sad endings that ya'll love.



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"