other things in respected movies that people seem to overlook.

I know the Rocky movies were good, but the fact that the matches were always 43 rounds of them beating the shit out of eachother with absolutely NO defense always annoyed the hell out of me. I can imagine boxing purists HATE this movie. The fact that professional boxers actually cock back and hold it for 2 seconds while the other boxer just sits there and eventually takes the slug is just retarded. Plus, if this is the way 2 boxers really fought, it'd be a KO halfway through round 1.

I love the Godfather, I loved the Godfather 2. How can the MAIN character in both of these movies just annoy the shit out of me at the same time. I never liked the way Mike was "the good one"...he was a college student, a military guy, and then he becomes so gung-ho when people started messing with his father. Ok, he wanted to meet with Solatzo (sp) and McCluski (sp) 'cause they lumped him up and tried to kill his father...fine. He capped'em both...fine. Then when he went to Sicily, and he fell in love with ol'girl, ran into her father, and was like "Tell him to come out here...let me tell him who I am and how important I am". From that moment on, I hated Mike. I thought he was a prick who took himself too seriously. He was on his own nuts and took himself too seriously. His father was "old school", and by part 2, I could see Mike looking at himself in the mirror, sitting at his desk, for hours...

I just hated that guy.

What other realities in good movies are usually overlooked?

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it's one of the main parts of the story. also, the fights were obviously
exaggerated, but the guy who he based the character on, Chuck Wepner, wasn't called the Bayonne Bleeder for nothing.

Micahel's inability to live up to his father's standard is a point of the movie. It's all about the balance between the balance of family and business. Vito could balance that but Michael can only be a dick of a business man, and all he does is pay for it again and again.

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I know "Rappin'" ain't exactly a respected or even good movie, but still, that always annoyed me.

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is highly flawed imo.

start with terminator 1. john connor sends back his own father to protect his mother during which time his father impregnates his mother. which begs the question, the day before john sends back his father, how the fuck does he exist? is there any reasonable defense here?

there's more. in terminator 2, miles dyson is identified as the individual who develops the necessary technology to invent skynet, the artificial intelligence system which ultimately wreaks havoc in the future. how does dyson develop this technology? by studying parts of the destroyed terminator from the first film. therefore, again, on the day before the first terminator was sent back (by skynet), who or what was responsible for skynet's existence in the first place?

if somebody has a perspective on how this might make sense, i'm all ears.

btw, this is in no way a knock on the films. t2 is one of my absolute favorites.

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instead of back to kill her uber-commando ass, her kid, while the android was protecting them.

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I think you have to look at time as being non-linear, which certain philosophies and theories of the world do. Basically, instead of a back-to-front progression, there's just one kind of permanent present that all time is caught up in.

Okay, that's sounds even dumber when I type it up, but that's all I could ever come up with. I never really bothered looking into that non-linear shit, because it's ultimately pointless unless you're investigating blackholes or whatever.

so they can't send back any weapons. but the Terminator itself is ok because he's got a coating of flesh...

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That movie may not be respected much here, but being in college, it gets love where I am.

It's seriously why I hated the movie. It's watching 90 minutes of an annoying asshole be an annoying asshole to everyone.

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I can't really recall him doing anything to deliberatley screw anyone over

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>It's seriously why I hated the movie. It's watching 90 minutes
>of an annoying asshole be an annoying asshole to everyone.

People just wish it could be them acting that way, and then inexplicably getting love for it, because as you pointed out, there's no good reason to like Napoleon except for the fact that he's such an ineffectual loser you can't help but feel sorry for him.

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>I love the Godfather, I loved the Godfather 2. How can the
>MAIN character in both of these movies just annoy the shit out
>of me at the same time. I never liked the way Mike was "the
>good one"...he was a college student, a military guy, and then
>he becomes so gung-ho when people started messing with his
>father. Ok, he wanted to meet with Solatzo (sp) and McCluski
>(sp) 'cause they lumped him up and tried to kill his
>father...fine. He capped'em both...fine. Then when he went
>to Sicily, and he fell in love with ol'girl, ran into her
>father, and was like "Tell him to come out here...let me tell
>him who I am and how important I am". From that moment on, I
>hated Mike. I thought he was a prick who took himself too
>seriously. He was on his own nuts and took himself too
>seriously. His father was "old school", and by part 2, I
>could see Mike looking at himself in the mirror, sitting at
>his desk, for hours...
>
>I just hated that guy.

it's not overlooked at all

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like the whole point was Mike was a prick and didn't really do the business right? I guess so, since everything kept happening to him. I guess I'm getting mixed up that since people love the movie, they must love Mike. I hate Mike.

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I mean, killing your brother is just downright COLD, mob family or not

and he even waited until their mother passed before he did it

but the whole movie shows his family falling apart around him - the abortion, walking alone through their snow covered estate, the ending with him on the bench in autumn alone...

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Interesting. I guess I was under the assumption that you have to somewhat like the main character to like the movie. It's a good movie regardless.

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well I took it as a view of his personal collapse

look at him in the wedding scene of Godfather I and then at the end of Godfather II

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When he was like "Call him out here...I'm Michael Corleone". I mean, sure, he shot 2 people, but he wasn't even MADE, or IN the organization, so to speak. Even if he was, he wouldn't put elevated too high for offing 2 guys. Now he's parlayin in Siciliy on some "Call him out here, let me impress him by sittin back, chillin, actin like big shit". Man, he didn't even stand up when he introduced himself. I don't care if your Don Spighetti, you introduce yourself to a prospective father-in-law, you stand up lol

Mike was on his own nuts like he was Pope Pious IV. I'm not expert on the mob by any stretch, but even tho Sonny died, and Fredo was stupid...that doesn't put Mike in the running. Guys paid made dues, and Mike showed up like "Oh no! Fathah! That's it! I'm running the show...get me my suit and brievecase" lol.

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is what put him into power

his first killing was small-time shit like you said

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>When he was like "Call him out here...I'm Michael Corleone".
>I mean, sure, he shot 2 people, but he wasn't even MADE, or IN
>the organization, so to speak. Even if he was, he wouldn't put
>elevated too high for offing 2 guys. Now he's parlayin in
>Siciliy on some "Call him out here, let me impress him by
>sittin back, chillin, actin like big shit". Man, he didn't
>even stand up when he introduced himself. I don't care if
>your Don Spighetti, you introduce yourself to a prospective
>father-in-law, you stand up lol
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i agree with that part, but i thought it also showed vulnerability that he offered the information that he was a marked man to the father. surely, apollonia's father could have brokered a deal for protection for his family had he given up michael.

>Mike was on his own nuts like he was Pope Pious IV. I'm not
>expert on the mob by any stretch, but even tho Sonny died, and
>Fredo was stupid...that doesn't put Mike in the running. Guys
>paid made dues, and Mike showed up like "Oh no! Fathah! That's
>it! I'm running the show...get me my suit and brievecase" lol.
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wasn't mike becoming godfather vito's decision though? it seemed fairly clear that mike had the ambition and given that he was vito's son, he really is first in line since fredo was not a real candidate and tom didn't seem to want it. mike was the only real person that stepped up. perhaps others could have done the job, but mike stuck up for his family when they needed it. he was a dick about a lot of things, but like some people said...that is part of the tragedy. he didn't have the balance down like his pops did. another thing the movie pointed out how mistaken he was to think he could leave that life behind without serious consequences.


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pisses me off.

I'm like "This wench is all over the movie the whole time on some woes me shit, and when she finds out this nice, lawyer guy from childhood likes her...she's in this DILEMMA?? FUCK...HER!!" lol

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They talked bad about him in heaven 'cause he's been there forever and never gotten wings. We can assume that George Bailey is not the first dude whose life the angel was supposed to save. That means for thousands of years, the angel has let people die due to his incompetence.

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The biggest platform for theatre, in front of this huge audience, doing this huge dance/musical/whatever the hell it is, he decides, "I want to take the spotlight".
I'm not even a dancer and that shit annoyed the hell out of me. It doesn't help that I don't care for Travolta in the movie.

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It was the big carnival scene at the end at I was smiling and bopping along because Sandy had decided the best way to appeal to men is to slut it out all over the place, Danny had his letterman jacket from track (an endeavor of his he had somehow managed to keep secret from everyone in the film), Rizzo wasn't pregnant so she was now free to continue fucking random guys without compunction, and all was right with the world.

And then they drive off into the sky.

????

I was thinking in my head, "You know this a pretty shitty way to end this film. With the two main characters breaking all known physical laws and driving their 1956 Studebaker into the clouds. Pretty much breaks down all the reality the film had going for it."

But then I remembered that the "reality" of the film is that when confronted with teenage angst and moral dilemmas, the best option is to break into song and dance. If people are aournd you, do not worry...they will know all the moves and be able to sing any chorus you may want to come up with.

At least my idea of a nightmare realm. The feeling I get in the first Texas Chainsaw Massacre when Leatherface is giggling and touching the girl's hair as she's tied to the body part chair is the same feeling I get when I watch Grease.

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I'm like, look, I'm not a female, but I know a group of highschool girls couldn't POSSIBLY be this unsexy during a slumber party lol

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George Bailey is trying to find a way to get out of this town, move up in the world. Maybe he's not entirely sure what that means, but he wants to see the world, he wants to see its sites, it's pleasures.
And as event after event tries to hold him back, he fights valiantly to that dream.
Until finally at the end, he realizes he'll always be in Bedford Falls and he might as well be happy about it. These people need him, regardless of what he needs. The people of Bedford Falls aren't villains per se, but if George Bailey is the hero...
Sure it's a fun movie, there's happy music in the background, and George Bailey is happy for himself at the end, but only because he's got no choice. Otherwise he'll see that he's got nowhere else to go - they won't let him.
I really do like this movie, I just fail to see how giving up on your dream can be construed as a happy thing.

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You have no idea how many business majors I see who are like: "Dude, I'm totally gonna be like Gordon Gekko when I grow up." Weird ass white people, he's the bad guy!!!!

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That's probably my favorite film about the 1980s culture, because GG is, like you said, the villain, but he ends up stealing the show. Fuck all those stupid brat-pack films, slap bracelets, side ponytails, leg-warmers and all that bullshit, the 1980s was really about greed and corrption. Few things capture that fucking decade more brilliantly than Wall Street and its reception.

It is not cool to be like Scarface.
He led a horrible life.
He was a horrible person.
He did horrible things.
He died a horrible death.
So take off the stupid Tony Montana merchandise and get a real role model.

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I was thinking this yesterday as I saw YET ANOTHER subject of MTV "Cribs" with a Scarface
poster in their playroom.

>It is not cool to be like Scarface.
>He led a horrible life.
>He was a horrible person.
>He did horrible things.
>He died a horrible death.
>So take off the stupid Tony Montana merchandise and get a real
>role model.


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and someone explain to me the appeal of the leather jackets with Scarface on 'em? Everytime I see one, I think "they never saw the end of that movie."

>I was thinking this yesterday as I saw YET ANOTHER subject of
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>>It is not cool to be like Scarface.
>>He led a horrible life.
>>He was a horrible person.
>>He did horrible things.
>>He died a horrible death.
>>So take off the stupid Tony Montana merchandise and get a
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

People who wear those t-shirts...you think they sit down and watch the dvd all the way through even once a month? Nah.

Montana is the new Che.

Nevermind they were on both opposite ends of the coin now that I think about it.

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I mean, c'mon... this fool tried giving it away more than once, dove head-first into a pond of dead folks, got stabbed up a couple of times, turned on his friend cuz he trusted a schizo creature, had it taken from him... I can go on and on.

Don't get me wrong, I like the trilogies. But Frodo's "struggle" was made that much worse because of his sheer stupidity and weakness.

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Like "We did it Mr. Frodo! We're here!!", Frodos on the ground at the foot of the mountain like "I Caaaaaan't! I caaaan't!" lol

SamWise was like "Ok, Mr. Frodo! You can do it! Up you go!".

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Any movie where a complex psychological disorder can be solved by putting a bullet through the side of your face has enough problems as it is

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How can people POSSIBLY complain about Anakin when Luke was HORRIBLE. He was whiny, he ran like a complete pansie (peep in the dungeoun with the Rankor when he ran to the other side...you can picture him saying "No! Not in the face! MOM!!!")...not to mention in Return of the Jedi when he strutted into Jabba's layer on some "I'm a Jedi, I'm a forced to be reckoned with"-cockieness, Jabba hit the button, and he threw his hands in the air while falling like "I'm a very powerful YEEEAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!".

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Sloane should have dumped him for Cameron.

Yeah, he wanted him to break out of his shell, but Jesus...let the poor guy ease into things. What kind've fuckin friend are you?

Then at the end, because of Ferris, the car situation went off the charts, and when it would be completely justified if Cameron mollywhopped Ferris in the side of his head...Cameron was on some "I'm glad! I'm glad this happend! You were right Ferris". WTF?

Another part of that people don't talk about is when Ferris was like "I'll take the heat!", and Cameron said "No" once, and Ferris shut-up right then and there and didn't pursue it any further when this "worried" look on his face. Oh, so you can bumrush parades, convince your timid friends to steal cars, and use identity theft to get into a restaraunt, but when it's time to take heat, your boy says "No" once, and your like "No, I'll take the...well, ok". EVerytime I see that quasi-concerned look on his face when Cameron says no, I get more upset.

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He just runs straight. They should remake Forrest Gump and see what happens now. If people got this scared over Vince Young's Wonderlic scores, think about what they'd do to Gump.

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the fact that those sorts of beatings go on for 15 rounds... LOL. If even one round of that punishment was actually taken, they would be dead.

Also it's hilarious the way they fight... they use their left hand to sort of hold the other guy's head while they hit them. Like when you grab somone's collar in a bar fight

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the other "pro boxer" watches helplessly. Remember in Rocky III where Mr.T hit him so hard he flew off the ground, caught him in mid air and hit him again? WTF?

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Depressed, out-of-work LA actor with all kinds of fucked up issues, like his mom just dying and his dad freaking out? Talk about setting your sights low.

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... even with her helmet on she wouldn't be able to make it three blocks without some dude trying to run game on her.

Although admittedly she did live at her parent's house, which isn't always the hottest, and her little "I like to do something totally original" thing is obnoxious.

But still, you telling me if some girl you knew started dating Zach Braff in that movie you'd give her the thumbs up? I'd be straight telling her to be careful around his manic ass.

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