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"SERENITY"
Tue Sep-27-05 09:39 AM by DawgEatah

  

          

I was gonna up an old post but they seem to all have dropped long ago in a galaxy far... Nevermind.

So, who is gonna see this this weekend?
Where my sci-fi cats at?
Joss Whedon fans?

What are you anticipating.
The unfortunate cancelation of the show left so many questions unanswered.
Anyone watching Firefly for the first time on cable?
I bought the Firefly DVD set myself a few months ago.


I will see it this weekend. Probably Saturday.




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Subject Author Message Date ID
goin this weekend
Sep 27th 2005
1
Preach!!!
Sep 27th 2005
4
I just started watching the DVD's
Sep 27th 2005
2
Well, all networks drop the ball, but FOX does have a bad record.
Sep 27th 2005
3
      i doubt it coulda been GOAT...i mean...i loved Farscape.
Sep 28th 2005
5
           Ok, I perhaps was a bit overzealous....
Sep 28th 2005
7
                No you're right.
Oct 03rd 2005
66
I AM SO THERE! FIREFLY IS THE SHIT!
Sep 28th 2005
6
TOMORROW, BITCHES.
Sep 29th 2005
8
they showed an even BETTER preview today!
Sep 29th 2005
9
Word? A new one? damn. *runs to appletrailers.com*
Sep 29th 2005
10
Tuesday is THE DAY for me!!
Sep 29th 2005
11
did a marathon session like a month ago...
Sep 29th 2005
12
The Website is pretty cool....
Sep 30th 2005
13
Tonight. IMAX. skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet
Sep 30th 2005
14
Wow, fuckin ill, Son. I am seeing it 70mm tomorrow afternoon.
Sep 30th 2005
15
Me and the missus are really lookin forward to this, shun...
Sep 30th 2005
16
      Nice. Are you a fan of all of Whedon's shit or just sci-fi?
Sep 30th 2005
19
           I got hip to Angel late and Firefly post-mortem.
Sep 30th 2005
20
oohhhh u muthafucker!!!
Sep 30th 2005
17
FUCK. I JUST SAW THE SPOILER AT AINTITCOOL. I KNOW WHO DIES.
Sep 30th 2005
18
DAMN,DAMN,DAAAAMN -Flo Evans
Sep 30th 2005
23
ye i fuckd myself up seein that spoiler by accident last week
Sep 30th 2005
24
For the record....
Oct 01st 2005
37
FUCK STAR WARS AND FUCK FOX (SERENITY FOOLS!!!)
Sep 30th 2005
21
I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE (u know who) GET WHACKED!!!
Sep 30th 2005
22
one question i have tho, is the movie a complete restart??
Oct 01st 2005
25
RE: one question i have tho, is the movie a complete restart??
Oct 01st 2005
32
      what he said.
Oct 01st 2005
36
Joss Whedon has my loyalty
Oct 01st 2005
26
hey man, we Vike fans have a tough game this weekend man...
Oct 01st 2005
28
wholly crap....i mean really...WHOLLY CRAP!!!
Oct 01st 2005
27
im pretty sure Whedon has nothing to do with Alias
Oct 01st 2005
29
JJ Abrams does Alias n/m
Oct 01st 2005
34
      RE: right, though some Buffy writers did move over to Alias last year
Oct 02nd 2005
39
      RE: JJ Abrams does Alias n/m
Oct 02nd 2005
40
           the Whedon connection with Lost
Oct 02nd 2005
42
and in terms of Whedon and films
Oct 01st 2005
30
TOMORROW NIGHT, BITCHES!!!
Oct 01st 2005
31
RE: dope
Oct 01st 2005
33
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUFKKC!!!!!!...
Oct 01st 2005
35
Guess I'll go tomorrow
Oct 02nd 2005
38
great, gotta buy the Firefly box set now
Oct 02nd 2005
41
Yes you do.
Oct 05th 2005
73
oh my lord YES!!
Oct 02nd 2005
43
That shit BUGGED the HELL out of me! It was otherwise FANTASTIC!
Oct 02nd 2005
44
      the ending...kinda spoilerish
Oct 02nd 2005
45
           im thinkn Mal just understood how the Operative worked
Oct 03rd 2005
54
THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT, LET'S SPOILER TALK....
Oct 02nd 2005
46
um...maybe?
Oct 02nd 2005
48
RE: THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT, LET'S SPOILER TALK....
Oct 03rd 2005
61
      good points.
Oct 03rd 2005
63
      i know! it ain't fair
Oct 03rd 2005
64
      At the beginning of Serenity, when the black guy is watching...
Oct 08th 2005
85
great movie *spoilers*
Oct 02nd 2005
47
i need back story up the wahzoo cause that was better than sex
Oct 02nd 2005
49
thoses shots of that "axe"......
Oct 02nd 2005
50
Go buy or rent the whole Firefly Season.
Oct 02nd 2005
51
ye, best thing to do is cop that DVD box set of FIREFLY
Oct 03rd 2005
62
*wets self over all the love in this post*
Oct 02nd 2005
52
Firefly DVD boxset is #3 on Amazon.com's best-seller list
Oct 03rd 2005
53
some box office numbers for SERENITY
Oct 03rd 2005
55
RE: some box office numbers for SERENITY
Oct 03rd 2005
56
      yes, i am definitely going for a repeat viewing
Oct 03rd 2005
57
TWICE.
Oct 03rd 2005
58
I really dug this movie!
Oct 03rd 2005
59
wootihoo! add one more to the converts list! hehe
Oct 03rd 2005
60
Great movie
Oct 03rd 2005
65
ye its definitely gonna be a different experience for the non-FF fan
Oct 03rd 2005
67
      here's the thing...
Oct 05th 2005
74
           NICE! Glad to know Non-FF fans loved it just as much.
Oct 06th 2005
75
Anyone peep the COMICS?
Oct 03rd 2005
68
they already wrote a Firefly comic book didnt they?
Oct 03rd 2005
69
      Yeah. I was wondering if anyone has seen/read them.
Oct 04th 2005
70
           i need to cop that shit.
Oct 04th 2005
71
OH MY DAMN!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 04th 2005
72
ye i NEED this film on dvd like yesterday already
Oct 06th 2005
76
They couldn't have pulled it off any better
Oct 06th 2005
77
Hell yeah.
Oct 06th 2005
79
i really enjoyed this movie
Oct 06th 2005
78
The best part is that the storyline was unexpected...
Oct 06th 2005
80
      ye i definitely thought the Blue Sun corp
Oct 06th 2005
81
           Yeah Blue Sun. The dudes with the blue hands. Them!
Oct 07th 2005
82
God that was good
Oct 08th 2005
83
once i heard the buzz
Oct 08th 2005
84
some more SERENITY box office numbers:
Oct 08th 2005
86
that doesnt look too good
Oct 08th 2005
89
this movie sucked....it made no sense
Oct 08th 2005
87
how so?
Oct 08th 2005
88
      RE: how so?
Oct 08th 2005
90
           i guess that can be the problem with a tv show turned movie
Oct 08th 2005
91
           i had no idea it was ever a tv show
Oct 08th 2005
94
                tv show was called firefly
Oct 09th 2005
95
           trolling........
Oct 08th 2005
92
                Not really
Oct 12th 2005
108
                     Wasn't the series like that from the jump though....?
Oct 12th 2005
109
                          No, you're right
Oct 12th 2005
111
I just saw it.
Oct 08th 2005
93
ANYONE ELSE NOTICE ALL OF FIREFLY'S ASSASSINS ARE BLACK?
Oct 09th 2005
96
All two of them? lol
Oct 09th 2005
98
but so is the priest.
Oct 10th 2005
99
      yes but it is speculated the priest could have been an operative...
Oct 10th 2005
100
           Gina Torres is Fishburne's wifey??
Oct 10th 2005
101
GREAT MOVIE
Oct 09th 2005
97
weekend box office update - October 10th, 2005
Oct 10th 2005
102
Joss talks about the Browncoats - October 3rd, 2005
Oct 10th 2005
103
http://www.donetheimpossible.com/
Oct 10th 2005
104
GO SEE IT IN THE THEATERS!!!! TWICE!!!!
Oct 11th 2005
105
aka the "Frank Longo doesn't care about black people" reply...
Oct 16th 2005
119
seattle 8:50
Oct 12th 2005
106
great freakin flick
Oct 12th 2005
107
SO.... it bricked in the theatres.
Oct 12th 2005
110
well according to a lot of sites
Oct 12th 2005
112
      true
Oct 12th 2005
113
           it cost $39 million
Oct 14th 2005
115
                39 million?
Oct 14th 2005
116
you guys weren't kidding!
Oct 14th 2005
114
I may go for a third time this weekend.
Oct 15th 2005
117
too bad you ain't in seattle
Oct 16th 2005
118
I'm Maaaaad late.....
Oct 16th 2005
120
exactly like the movie...
Oct 16th 2005
121
I did it.
Oct 16th 2005
122
me too
Oct 17th 2005
123
finally peeped
Oct 19th 2005
124
number three
Oct 20th 2005
125
damn you muhfuckas!
Oct 20th 2005
126
      we are forming an elite uber-geek club on some threepeat shit.
Oct 20th 2005
127
           ahh. well....
Oct 20th 2005
128
                You better hurry before it's out the theaters!!!!!
Oct 20th 2005
133
                     well, the thing is
Oct 20th 2005
134
went to 2nd viewing at the "gud" theatre - THUMBS UP
Oct 20th 2005
129
jus finishd my 2nd viewing, @ home on the computer tho
Oct 20th 2005
130
      definitely the music
Oct 20th 2005
135
BOX OFFICE UPDATE:
Oct 20th 2005
131
alright, not bad
Oct 20th 2005
137
AND CAN WE GET A MUHFUCKING ANCHOR FOR FUCKS SAKE??
Oct 20th 2005
132
They haters, mang.
Oct 24th 2005
148
      no one does
Oct 24th 2005
149
keep in mind, Book took down an alliance cruiser by himself...
Oct 20th 2005
136
RE: keep in mind, Book took down an alliance cruiser by himself...
Oct 20th 2005
138
WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE TAKE: $29,283,117
Oct 21st 2005
139
i saw it yesterday
Oct 21st 2005
140
but but but...
Oct 21st 2005
141
      i like the grittiness
Oct 21st 2005
142
      Whedon keeps hinting Washand Book
Oct 22nd 2005
143
^
Oct 23rd 2005
144
I finally caught it this weekend
Oct 24th 2005
145
there's still the worldwide sales to factor in
Oct 24th 2005
146
Serenity breaks $30 million worldwide over weekend
Oct 24th 2005
147
Author of CANDORVILLE comic strip is apparently a big fan....
Oct 24th 2005
150
Firefly - Back To 2002 : True Story Of A Show Saved By Fans
Oct 25th 2005
151
.
Oct 27th 2005
152

Odyssee
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1. "goin this weekend"
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i never had interest until they made the movie and it started airing on sci-fi.

i'd watch if sci-fi picked it up

  

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4. "Preach!!!"
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2. "I just started watching the DVD's"
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Hopefully I'll be all caught up by this weekend. I'll probably catch it this weekend. Firefly is a great show, leave it to Fox to drop the ball on it.

  

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3. "Well, all networks drop the ball, but FOX does have a bad record."
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And yes.
The show coulda been the GOAT of Sci Fi Series.
It had great elements, characters, writing...



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5. "i doubt it coulda been GOAT...i mean...i loved Farscape."
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but i do want to see the movie...i didn't particularly like the show..i never quite got the western angle i mean...Dawg..after u explained it to me it did make sense...i've always been a fan of Joss's...i just hope i'm not disappointed


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7. "Ok, I perhaps was a bit overzealous...."
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I was just saying if it got the kind of run Buffy or Angel got (5 to 7 seasons) it might be a contendor. I could be wrong though. Great writers can fall off at any point.






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66. "No you're right."
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If Fire Fly had been given a chance it definately would have been the GOAT sci-fi series. I think its short run is comparable to several seasons of most sci-fi shows. Fuck Fox and their shortsightedness.

  

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6. "I AM SO THERE! FIREFLY IS THE SHIT!"
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8. "TOMORROW, BITCHES."
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9. "they showed an even BETTER preview today!"
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10. "Word? A new one? damn. *runs to appletrailers.com*"
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11. "Tuesday is THE DAY for me!!"
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Can't wait to see this, man!! And for those that see it this weekend, DON'T POST ANY SPOILERS IN THIS THREAD, MAN!!!!!! lol

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12. "did a marathon session like a month ago..."
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can't wait, although it looks like i'll be going alone. i can't find anyone to share my enthusiasm...

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13. "The Website is pretty cool...."
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WEBSITE
http://www.serenitymovie.com/

TRAILERS
http://www.serenitymovie.com/trailer.html




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14. "Tonight. IMAX. skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet"
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15. "Wow, fuckin ill, Son. I am seeing it 70mm tomorrow afternoon."
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Close but IMAX probably is a bit better because I am guessing the sound is much better there.

Post reviews here later.




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16. "Me and the missus are really lookin forward to this, shun..."
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19. "Nice. Are you a fan of all of Whedon's shit or just sci-fi?"
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I never knew the depth of your geek-dom. now we have so much more to talk about. LMAO



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20. "I got hip to Angel late and Firefly post-mortem."
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But Firefly was DOPE.

My wife is HOOKED.

She's gonna cry tonight when she sees who dies.

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17. "oohhhh u muthafucker!!!"
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sheet, Serenity on iMax!

im seein it in a coupla days. woulda seend it tonite but i got broke and i get paid tomorrow!!

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18. "FUCK. I JUST SAW THE SPOILER AT AINTITCOOL. I KNOW WHO DIES."
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Fuck.


FUUUUUUCK.


I'll post below.

























They kill WASH, the stupid fucking assholes! How do they kill the best fucking character on the show?!

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23. "DAMN,DAMN,DAAAAMN -Flo Evans"
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24. "ye i fuckd myself up seein that spoiler by accident last week"
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shits fuckd up, BUT, Joss said if sequels are greenlit then Wash is not out of the picture at all.

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37. "For the record...."
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Jayne is by far the best character.
When you said this tho, it had me thinking Jayne.
So since i ended up being suprised, it worked out for me.
Thanks!!!



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21. "FUCK STAR WARS AND FUCK FOX (SERENITY FOOLS!!!)"
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JUST GOT BACK FROM IT THIS AFTERNOON. THAT IS A MUTHAFUCKING
SPACE OPERA FOR YOUR ASS!!!!!

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22. "I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE (u know who) GET WHACKED!!!"
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25. "one question i have tho, is the movie a complete restart??"
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or does it continue on from the show? i just thought i knew where it stood continuity-wise, but now from all the reviews and previews im seein it looks like they just totally restarted the whole thing and just adapted the whole concept to film, discarding all the previous stuff that occurred on the show.anyone wanna fill me in?

and no spoilers, plz.

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32. "RE: one question i have tho, is the movie a complete restart??"
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No it's not. They recently released a 3 issue comic books series which explains what the characters were doing between the end of the tv and the movie.

They just wanted to make sure that people who never saw the tv show could watch the movie without being totally confused, so they did a lot of exposition in the first 20 minutes of the movie.

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36. "what he said."
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26. "Joss Whedon has my loyalty"
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I'll see it this weekend.

  

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28. "hey man, we Vike fans have a tough game this weekend man..."
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our D is banged up pretty bad...I'm hoping for the best, but its gonna be very very tough to pull out a win on Vic this time...we owe him one though dammit...

  

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27. "wholly crap....i mean really...WHOLLY CRAP!!!"
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...this movie is the SHIT!!!

<note: all doodoo references within should be interpreted in a positive light. 'the SHIT' is a GOOD thing>

man..i've never watched Firefly.
I've never watched Alias.
The only thing by Whedon i've ever come across were some Xmen comics he had written (and I thought they were very well done mind you).

so i pretty much came into this movie blind with no expectations...

but DAMN...i am SO in love with this flick!

It had everything i want in a film. EVERYTHING. period.

a healthy dose of solid grit & grime, action, effects, humor, horror, genuine characters with some 'realness', great acting performances & casting...and the writing...perfect perfect writing and dialogue...stellar....

i didn't want it to end... but even though it had to, when it did, i was completely satisfied.

it got four very strong thumbs up from my entire family...from me (40ish with sci-fi geekish tendencies) my wife ( kinda a closet sci-fi nerd geek like me), my daughter (teenager) son (preteen)...and if my dog woulda gone he woulda dug it too...

wonderful flick. deserves much more promotion than I've seen it getting. (that said, I was off today so we went early and the 4-oclock Friday showing here in Richmond had a pretty nice crowd for a Friday afternoon )

this movie was just cool man...made me want to do a few things things though...fly a spaceship, and backtrack and watch episodes of Firefly so i can see more of this stuff...including the hot chick...and the other pretty chick, and the other cute chick too...

yeah this movie is THE SHIT yall.

So.. what else has this Whedon guy done besides Alias & Firefly?

  

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29. "im pretty sure Whedon has nothing to do with Alias"
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in terms of television, he's been responsible for:
Buffy, The Vampire Slayer
Angel
Firefly

all of which u should track down and watch. all the elements that made Serenity an enjoyable experience for u are contained within those three series'. you'll love em.

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34. "JJ Abrams does Alias n/m"
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39. "RE: right, though some Buffy writers did move over to Alias last year"
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but season 4 of Alias was horrible despite that, so i digress.

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40. "RE: JJ Abrams does Alias n/m"
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oh ok thanks,

Yeah, when i picked up a few issues of the Astonishing Xmen i remember reading that Whedon had done a tv show or two, one of them starting with an "A" guess i got Alias mixed with Angel. (i haven't watched either of them so i guess it doesn't matter.

My wife seems to think Whedon had something to do with the initial creation of one of her favorite shows.."Lost" ...ya'll know if theres any truth to that?

  

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42. "the Whedon connection with Lost"
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is that a guy called David Fury, who used to work with Joss on both Buffy and Angel, is now one of the exec. producers on Lost.

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30. "and in terms of Whedon and films"
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he's helped to co-write and script-doctor films like:
Speed.
Toy Story.
X-Men (of which only a line or two actually made the movie).
and i believe he wrote Alien: Resurrection.

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31. "TOMORROW NIGHT, BITCHES!!!"
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and im takn a small entourage with me, too. 95% of em haven't seen an episode of Firefly, and are onyl briefly acquainted with Buffy or Angel. hopefully this movie knocks em on their asses, and knocks some SENSE into em!! worship the Whedon, goddammy!

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33. "RE: dope"
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i wasn't up on Joss Whedon until Astonishing...the Buffy series, despite the reviews, never looked appealing to me. But for sure now I'm gonna go check some of the DVDs.

Serenity was just wonderful. I haven't seen the TV show...the movie stands alone very well.

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35. "FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUFKKC!!!!!!..."
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Fuckity fuck fuck.

That was goooooooooooood.


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38. "Guess I'll go tomorrow"
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Plus if the above posters are correct, I don't need to see the original series to understand, so that makes it better.
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41. "great, gotta buy the Firefly box set now"
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very entertaining movie, to say the least

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73. "Yes you do."
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43. "oh my lord YES!!"
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i loved loved LOVED this film. and ended up successfully converting most of the friends who came along to see it. now they wanna see FIREFLY bitches!! bring it awn!

but WHYYY OOHH WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY........































(spoilers)







































........did they have to kill Wash AND Book?!?! jesus christ Whedon! the man has an unhealthy bloodlust i swear. always sending his characters on suicide runs and getting people killed.

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44. "That shit BUGGED the HELL out of me! It was otherwise FANTASTIC!"
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45. "the ending...kinda spoilerish"
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anybody know why mal didn't shoot dude in the head when he already said earlier in the movie he was wearing body armor? sure, a few shots to the body to put him down, but i'd a let a few off to the dome to keep him down. but maybe mal knew he'd need him to call off the troops when they left, ionno.


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54. "im thinkn Mal just understood how the Operative worked"
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he finally 'got' him i guess, once he himself had something to believe in. so killing him wasn't going to help anyone, but showing him the truth would move mountains, as it ended up doing in the film.

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46. "THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT, LET'S SPOILER TALK...."
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Yo this is gonna get spoiler-ridden.
Avert your eyes those who have yet to see this film.
















So.














What's the deal with Book?
Is it pretty much the collective opinion that he used to be an Operative?
That is what I think the film hints towards.
He knew a lot about Operatives.
He was all about "belief."
If one loses belief in the Alliance where does one turn their belief to?
God?
Maybe the operative at the end of the movie will go to an abby himself and become the next Book?
Mayhaps?

  

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48. "um...maybe?"
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i just found it ultra cool that the pro/antagonist ended up havin this goku-vegeta kinda relationship....

NOT killing the villian was seriously a stroke of genius...

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61. "RE: THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT, LET'S SPOILER TALK...."
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>What's the deal with Book?
>Is it pretty much the collective opinion that he used to be an
>Operative?
>That is what I think the film hints towards.
>He knew a lot about Operatives.
>He was all about "belief."
>If one loses belief in the Alliance where does one turn their
>belief to?
>God?
>Maybe the operative at the end of the movie will go to an abby
>himself and become the next Book?
>Mayhaps?

ye i think it's pretty damn obvious by now Book was a major player in the Alliance. whether or not he was an operative is up for debate, but remember, the Op in SERENITY said he technically doesn't exist. he's totally off the radar. but during FIREFLY, Book is recognised as having Alliance ties (the ep. where he gets shot and has to be treated by an Alliance cruiser, they take his card or whatever that thingy was and immediately recognise him as someone important, he's visible). im thinkn he mighta just been someone who was of a very high rank, but then again, the whole belief thing works perfectly in explaining his past. if all operatives work on a system of devout belief, than there's a definite chance Book was one in a past life. and it's logical to assume that the operative in SERENITY might follow that same path and join an abby. not only would it give him something to believe in, but it would also give him shelter to lay low from any possible retribution by the Alliance.

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63. "good points."
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It was the "belief" theme that solidified it for me, but I can totally see what you mean about him being visible.

when Mal said "you're gonna have to tell me about (your past) one day" and Book replied "No I don't." i was like "Oh that Joss" cuz dammit, that was the one loose end i wanted tied up in the film. lol




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64. "i know! it ain't fair"
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i already got spoiled on who was gonna die before i saw the film, which sucked, but i had NO idea there would be two deaths. especially when we never get his definitive background story ykno.

what's strange is, Whedon keeps alluding to the fact that they will definitely pop up again if there were any sequels made to the film.

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85. "At the beginning of Serenity, when the black guy is watching..."
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...the recording, his status, or whatever you'd call it, comes up in the computer so the same could be for Book when he shows his ID at that hospital in the series.

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47. "great movie *spoilers*"
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the pilot's death schocked me...and the audience, but i can respect joss's gangsta....

...the very fact they DIDN'T kill the main bad guy and found a cooler alternative makes the movie better than most that i've seen for a while...btw, that guy really understands how to play a baddie...

i could see the older brunette as WW, but not the younger one....(she just looks too young)

...and i heart gina torres...fish is a lucky man....

now i gotta find some money and cop the boxset....i hopin for a sequel, this movie was too good NOT to have one...

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49. "i need back story up the wahzoo cause that was better than sex"
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yes i aint had somein a minute but lets digress.

That shit was dope. Doper than dope. Seriously. The humor. The plot. Like I saw no wholes. I was COMPLETELY into this movie. The dude that died...bullshit, out of left field, and great at the same time.

What is the connection to Firefly and what is Firefly?

River's fight scene at the end....best I've seen in a few years and I'm counting Hero, CTHD, and a few other martial art movies.

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50. "thoses shots of that "axe"......"
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OOOOOOOHHHHH WEEEEEEEEEEE!
She just holdin' it like "wha? nuh wha?"

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51. "Go buy or rent the whole Firefly Season."
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The move takes place a tiny bit after the series ends.
It was cancelled.
But it was brilliant.
You don't need to see the series but it ties a lot of the unfinished business of the premature axing.
If you liked the movie, you'll like the series.



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62. "ye, best thing to do is cop that DVD box set of FIREFLY"
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should be nice and cheap by now anyway. its been out there for like 3 years now. i copped mine only a few months ago for like 30 bucks.

in terms of River's fight scene at the end, hells yeh, that WAS some dope shit! the actress, Summer Glau, is actually an accomplished ballet dancer, so a lot of her moves are very graceful and angelic and dance-like. just like the barfight scene, she just looked like she was doin a funky dance hehe.

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52. "*wets self over all the love in this post*"
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*sniff*
it's just too beautiful.
hehe.

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53. "Firefly DVD boxset is #3 on Amazon.com's best-seller list"
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/dvd/130/ref=pd_ts_tb_h/103-2189975-5209454

these DVDs will never stop selling lol. because they were already selling like mad ages ago, and now when every new non-Firefly acquainted person sees Serenity, and if they're interested enough, they're gonna go cop the DVD set.
this is GREAT!
hopefully once the Serenity DVD drops, and it sells like fucking bananas, it'll help the push for movie sequels and a possible return to the TV series format (which i doubt, seeing as all the storylines were kicked up ten notches in the film anyway).

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55. "some box office numbers for SERENITY"
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'Serenity' Moseys to Tame Start
by Brandon Gray
October 2, 2005


The box office reception for Serenity, riding a heap of hype and a devoted fan following, was decidedly calm. Flightplan boarded the top spot by default with an estimated $15 million, leading overall business to be down 26 percent compared to the analogous frame in 2004 when Shark Tale and Ladder 49 opened.

Aiming for big screen success from humble television origins, Serenity corralled a tame estimated $10.1 million from 2,188 theaters, failing to buck modest industry expectations. Neither hit nor flop, initial attendance for writer-director Joss Whedon's $39 million space western was in the range of Red Planet and Titan A.E. and less than half that of The Fifth Element, which shared plot similarities. According to distributor Universal Pictures' exit polling, 52 percent of the audience was over 30 years old and 61 percent was male, while the top three reasons moviegoers cited for seeing the picture were the "story," the "action" and the "humor."

Universal's head of distribution, Nikki Rocco, was hopeful that positive word-of-mouth will broaden Serenity's audience beyond fans of Firefly, the 2002 series on which the movie is based. The picture scored an "A" grade from CinemaScore, which polls opening night moviegoers. Universal's research
suggested 88 percent of the audience rated the picture "excellent" or "very good," which is solid but not exceptional.

"We are satisfied," Rocco said. "The opening is where we thought it would be. The fan base turned out. We're hoping more will turn out in the future. I think over $10 million is a lot of business for a niche appeal picture, and I think the ancillary will be spectacular. I'd say over 40 percent were the fans. And there was probably another 30 percent that had not watched the show but had heard of it." Rocco highlighted San Francisco and Seattle among the cities that had strong turn outs, although she would not speculate on whether Serenity was successful enough to merit a sequel.

Serenity's existence is an achievement in its own right, regardless of the box office. Back in 2002, Firefly was one of the beleaguered Fox network's many casualties, ranking 66th in the Nielsen ratings for its first episode and quickly descending to around 100th place for the rest of its run. Out of 14 produced episodes, Fox aired 11, unceremoniously and out-of-order. The few people who saw the show took a shine to it, and creator Joss Whedon didn't give up.

Firefly's vocal and passionate support led to the movie deal with Universal and a DVD release of the show that reportedly sold half a million copies. "We actually like the director," said Rocco. "We were hoping to tap in to his fan base." The only other example of a movie springing from the ashes of a failed television series was the 1988 comedy hit, The Naked Gun, based on Police Squad!. Firefly's path has been an inversion of Whedon's Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which began as a failed movie and became a successful TV series.

Universal isn't exactly the studio of note when it comes to space operas and similar genre pictures, with disappointments ranging from Buck Rogers in the 25th Century to The Chronicles of Riddick. Their "Can't Stop the Signal" promotional campaign to galvanize the show's fans with special screenings and more was a smart move, as was the re-airing of Firefly on Universal's corporate sibling, the Sci-Fi Channel. However, the advertising didn't appeal to anyone who wasn't already a Firefly fan, from rushed, context-free trailers and TV spots to an ugly, non-descript poster to a tagline—"The Future is Worth Fighting For"—that was vague and recalled The X-Files movie's "Fight the Future."

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56. "RE: some box office numbers for SERENITY"
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...yeah i think this one will do well over time...due to word of mouth...

the core group showed up initially as they said and they'll spread thw word that its good...then there were some folks like me who had never seen the show at all, but who enjoy good sci fi adventure stuff, who went to the movie on a whim and were pleasantly suprised & impressed, we'll spread the word...

eventually the average joe will hear about it and give it a shot...

still though, the promotion has NOT been great on this one. I did'nt even realize it was coming out this weekend...we just happened to be at the theater and were looking for a movie we all kinda wanted to see...

maybe they'll do a second round of promotion aimed at the general masses...something that includes some word of mouth testimonials & reviews..i think something like that would bring the average joes in on the second wave...

also...i think my wife and i are gonna go see it again...so i expect they'll be getting sales that way too...

  

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57. "yes, i am definitely going for a repeat viewing"
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i NEED to see this again.

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59. "I really dug this movie!"
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Seriously, I went into the flick with few expectations. In part, I just wanted to peep Morena in a feature film. But I really liked the movie. The movie was witty, nice action, cool characters, and I liked the fact that all of these characters had a family like relationship. It made you want to learn more about them. I'll have to check this box set of the series now.

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60. "wootihoo! add one more to the converts list! hehe"
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im lovin it (c)LB.

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65. "Great movie"
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I have a question for all us Firefly fans though. Would this movie have been a strong movie if we hadn't followed the series? I watched the series on DVD the week leading up to the movie so i was really geeked to see it. I think a lot of us who saw it had an emotional investment in the characters and knowledge of them that a general audience might not have had. I'm just wondering what non FF fans thought of it. I'm still a little salty at what they did to Wash. I hope this isn't the last we see of the Serenity crew.

  

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67. "ye its definitely gonna be a different experience for the non-FF fan"
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i mean, for the fans, we've been invested in these characters for 15 episodes. the series was still rife for all the plots to play out over the course of seasons/years (as is the only way with a Joss show), but all the conflicts, romantic interests, shady pasts and other subplots had to be condensed and/or resolved in a couple hours. so obviously any ol moviegoer isn't going to be too heavily affected by what happens to these people. especially to Wash, considering the little damn screentime he got in the film, whereas had they seen the genius of Alan Tudyk in FIREFLY the series, they might feel a lot more for the character. i mean it's not impossible to become emotionally invested in them just by watching the film and not having seen FIREFLY, but having that background on them already adds a huge weight to all the resolutions we get in the film.

the main criticism of SERENITY has been that "it feels like a conversation that you've jumped into halfway" (quoting a recent review of the film in a local newspaper here in Melbourne, Australia). this film is primarily for the devout fans, anyone else who gets roped into it is a bonus i think. it would be nice to convert people en mass, but it's not likely. but just reading what some okps have written in this post, having not previously seen FIREFLY, tells me the film is still appealing to the non-FF fan. and i don't see why it shouldn't be. it's smart, it's hilarious, it's got plenty of action and carnage, interesting characters, interesting story, and some damn fine women wit Gine Torres and Morena Baccarin.

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74. "here's the thing..."
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I'm one of the non-Firefly movie goers..i had never seen the series at all...went in blind to the movie...and LOVED it....

the thing is, in spite of NOT having invested any time with the characters other than in the span of the 2 hour movie i was STILL affected by all of the characters and what happened to each...

why?

because the WRITING in this movie was absolutely superb. I was able to connect with each characters persona easily by the way the dialogue was written and executed by the actors...i felt them...i cared about them...even without having any historical background on each...even without knowing the details of what may have gone down between them previously...i still cared about these cats...they made us care about them...that is one of the hardest things to do in a movie if you ask me, but when its done well, it makes for the most rewarding movie going experience possible...

so that again is a testiment to the writing and acting...great stuff here...

that said, i'm a fan of the subtle build-up...so now i fear that some of the TV series will lose some of its impact for me now that i know how it 'ends'...oh i'm STILL gonna rent it or buy it mind you, because i want to see more of these characters...but i would have LOVED to have watched it NOT knowing what River would become...i would have loved to have seen her characters mysterious evolution and THEN be suprized by what happened in the movie...

That would be my suggestion...look, the movie stands on its OWN as a self contained excellent piece of work...two thumbs up here... absolutely a must see without a doubt......but if you HAVEN'T seen the series (like me), i'd suggest you watch the tv series DVDs first...THEN go see the movie...i think that can only intensify the experience even MORE...

  

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75. "NICE! Glad to know Non-FF fans loved it just as much."
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68. "Anyone peep the COMICS?"
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I really like Whedon's X-Men books and I heard he is writing this book with one of the other Firefly writers.




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69. "they already wrote a Firefly comic book didnt they?"
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to act as a bridge between the series and the movie. it details what happens in between that time.

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70. "Yeah. I was wondering if anyone has seen/read them."
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71. "i need to cop that shit."
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might go and pick it up next week.

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72. "OH MY DAMN!!!!!!!!!!"
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Just....oh my damn! Simply awesome!! From Start to finish! This is only the 2nd movie this year that I thoroughly enjoyed in the theater. I left the theater immediately wondering when they were gonna drop the dvd so I could cop.

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76. "ye i NEED this film on dvd like yesterday already"
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77. "They couldn't have pulled it off any better"
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I love the series and this movie pretty much sealed the deal that this is going to go down as one of those series that was short lived but will always be remembered.

I enjoyed this SO much than most of the other releases this year. You give a damn about the characters, the story makes sense, and the dialog is just perfect.

I'll be seeing this one again in the theaters

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78. "i really enjoyed this movie"
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80. "The best part is that the storyline was unexpected..."
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The preview makes it sound like they are gonna focus all on Rivers.
Fans like me assumed it was gonna revolve around the Blue Hand Corp.
But they flipped it.
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81. "ye i definitely thought the Blue Sun corp"
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and the creepy dudes with the blue gloves would be heavily involved, but im guessing they'll probly be introduced in any possible sequels.

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82. "Yeah Blue Sun. The dudes with the blue hands. Them!"
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83. "God that was good"
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84. "once i heard the buzz"
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i watched all the episodes and saw the movie tonight. and i am a happy man. im gonna go see it again.

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86. "some more SERENITY box office numbers:"
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from www.boxofficemojo.com

Domestic Total
as of Oct. 6,
2005: $12,668,785

Distributor: Universal

Release Date: September 30, 2005

Running Time: 1 hrs. 59 min.

Production Budget: $39 million

MPAA Rating: PG-13

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89. "that doesnt look too good"
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but i think it will pull n big numbers on dvd and should have a decent crowd for the rest of its time in the theater as word of mouth grows.

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87. "this movie sucked....it made no sense"
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there was nothing complex about it

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90. "RE: how so?"
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it seemed like everything just popped up out of nowhere & they didnt give any background about who anyone was or where anything in the story came from or any reason behind what was happening....

  

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91. "i guess that can be the problem with a tv show turned movie"
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the tv show fanbase already knows so much about the characters that sometimes it can be lost in the movie. I'd recommend watching the show if you felt confused, but if u didnt like the movie at all, then u'd prolly be wasting your time.

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94. "i had no idea it was ever a tv show"
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95. "tv show was called firefly"
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im sure u can torrent it

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I loved the movie and all but I dont know if I would have liked it as much had I not seen the series. There is a lot of background involved that goes into the bater of the characters. Without a history or knowledge of the show I could see how it would be superfluous to the non-FF fan. I'm glad to read some non-FF fans are enjoying it but it doesnt surprise me that some people dont like it too.

  

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109. "Wasn't the series like that from the jump though....?"
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Didn't they all banter like they had been together for a long time?
Didn't we get thrown into the middle of their lives and pick stuff up along the way in episode 1?
I like that about this show and shows like it.
I like to be thrown into the middle of situation and then have it slowly revealed to me.

I'm just asking.
I could be completely off.



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111. "No, you're right"
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I agree one of the things I loved about FF was the banter. Yes we were thrown into the middle of these characters lives, but over the course of the series we learned a lot about their backstory (unfortunately, very little of Book's). But you have to admit a lot of the banter and characterization in the movie is a direct nod to events from the show. The moment that comes to mind was when Jayne was bitching about cutting River and the Doc loose and Mal basically threatens to tell the crew of Jaynes betrayl ( a reference to Jayne betraying the two in an episode of FF). Its little things like that was one of the reasons I loved the movie but a lot of it could be confusing or maddening to someone who hadn't seen it. I'm just saying if someone didn't "get it" because of that I think thats a legtimit gripe. But let me say this to anyone who saw Serenity and loved it and hadn't seen Firefly, if you go back and watch the series it will make the movie 10 times better.

  

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93. "I just saw it."
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GREAT movie.

  

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96. "ANYONE ELSE NOTICE ALL OF FIREFLY'S ASSASSINS ARE BLACK?"
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The guy from the final episode
Book
This guy from the movie.

Anyone notice thaty they are all clean cut, philosophical, hard bastards?

What's that all about?

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98. "All two of them? lol"
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It is the wild west though.
What scarier than a black man to a cowboy?
They woulda cast native-americans but there is a shortage.


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99. "but so is the priest."
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end of racism debate.

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100. "yes but it is speculated the priest could have been an operative..."
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... or some such alliance ass kicker at one point.

however, let's not forget the captains first mate and lawrence fishburne's gorgeous wife.





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101. "Gina Torres is Fishburne's wifey??"
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not bad, Morpheus!

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97. "GREAT MOVIE"
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The only complaint I had-Nathan Fillion's horrible accent.
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102. "weekend box office update - October 10th, 2005"
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http://fireflydvd.com/wp/

Serenity dropped to number 7 in the US, with a weekend box office take of $4.9 million. That’s a 51% drop from last weekend. Which is about average for SciFi films. It is worth noting that the Saturday drop was actually only about 40%, this is a very positive sign that the movie is “growing legs”. Now lets just hope Universal and the theater owners don’t start dumping it from screens too quickly. I saw it twice over the weekend and both times the theater was about 60% full, and everybody really seemed to be enjoying themselves. Also the movie opened #1 in the UK and Ireland!! Way to go UK Browncoats and UIP!

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103. "Joss talks about the Browncoats - October 3rd, 2005"
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http://fireflydvd.com/wp/

Joss responded to a very poorly written article, and the process thanked us all again. Plus he included a possible teaser for a future Firefly / Serenity story… From the Universal board:

So I was flouncing (that’s lurking but fancier) about WHEDONESQUE
(for which I have forgotten my password yet again) and I couldn’t
help but see the little CHUD.com hate-bomb that Devin wrote. I don’t
mind that he doesn’t love the film, but things like “It failed in a
big way” and “It’s over” are about as charming — and journalistic –
as “I was right.” I am being totally realistic when I say the
weekend grosses did not meet expectations — but those expectations
were based on models that don’t apply to this situation because,
seriously, nothing does. The industry is not calling this a failure,
just a slightly soft version of a normal opening in a generally weak
weekend.

Now I did meet Devin, and he’s not a dumb guy. But he seems to have
a real animus against you Browncoats, and that’s the thing I wanted
to comment on, ’cause that doesn’t sit well with me. He actually
blames you guys for making sci-fi fans stay away from the movie.
Says you should be ashamed for having adopted a name, that you will
start finger-pointing and bickering now that you’ve ’caused’
the ‘failure’ of your film. He blames other things as well — the
title, the ads — but that’s fine. If one –ONE — of you guys reads
that column and takes it to heart I’ll not sleep. You guys did an
amazing thing this weekend — and the exit polls showed how much you
guys were out there, and how much business you dragged in with you.
Not to mention everything you did for the months - sorry, YEARS –
before it opened. I’m crazy proud of you. Yes, there is an
exclusionary element to some fandom that is inevitable, but this
group has fought that as well or better as any, and maybe I’m a
nerd, but being compared to a Trekker (or even a TrekkIE) doesn’t
offend me a bit.

We all know this remains an uphill battle. We all know that next
weekend is crucial — and a lot of it will rest on us. A lot will
rest on the studio reaching people we can’t. And factors we can’t
see coming. But I don’t especially appreciate people calling Time of
Death while I’m still operating. I don’t like smug defeatism. And
nobody disses the ‘coats without me wading in. That’s all.

The question remains: Did Early die out there in space, or did some
passing ship show up at the last second? There’s no answer yet, but
I sure as hell know how I’d write it.

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104. "http://www.donetheimpossible.com/"
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The Fan's Tale Of Firefly & Serenity - A Documentary

http://www.donetheimpossible.com/

looks interesting.

watch the trailer here:
http://www.donetheimpossible.com/trailer.html

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105. "GO SEE IT IN THE THEATERS!!!! TWICE!!!!"
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You notice that this movie never got an achor but that wallace and gromit movie and other shit that gets like 30 replies gets an anchor.

very telling.




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119. "aka the "Frank Longo doesn't care about black people" reply..."
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106. "seattle 8:50"
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i'm going to tonight. i just finished watching the series two days ago and really enjoyed it. sucks that it got cancelled just as it was getting so good. i'm dissappointed that we didn't get to see how the Mal/Inara relationship was gonna pan out. Inara is fine as hell, btw!

  

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107. "great freakin flick"
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it captured the star wars spirit perfectly

this is the movie the prequals espired to be.

and yes i am saying it is better than all of the prequals together


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110. "SO.... it bricked in the theatres."
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But the DVD sales should MORE than even out...


So I'm wondering... think they'll do a Family Guy treatment to it?

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112. "well according to a lot of sites"
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it can't even be considered a brick cos it was never meant to exist at all. any profit is good profit, and pretty much DVD sales is where it's gonna be at.

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113. "true"
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but how much did this flick cost and will they recoup that amount? its doing well overseas though, isn't it? and yes, i'm sure DVD sales will more than make up for lack of theater support.

  

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115. "it cost $39 million"
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it's a relatively low budget film, all things considered.

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116. "39 million?"
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wow, that's very low by today's standards. especially with special effects and stuff. seems like with domestic and overseas ticket sales, plus DVD sales they should make that up hella easy.

  

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114. "you guys weren't kidding!"
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this movie was awesome! pure entertainment all the way through. i just recently got into the show and now after seeing the movie i'm even more pissed that the show had such a short run.

  

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117. "I may go for a third time this weekend."
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118. "too bad you ain't in seattle"
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cuz i'm going for a second viewing sunday.

  

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120. "I'm Maaaaad late....."
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I just saw this flick today. That shit was tight. Is the TV show anything like this?

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121. "exactly like the movie..."
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...well, less kickassery by River, but otherwise, exactly the same.

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122. "I did it."
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Gyeah.

And it was still just as dope.






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123. "me too"
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still dope.

  

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124. "finally peeped"
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LOVED it! I will mos def cop the dvd when it drops.
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125. "number three"
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my friend called me up and asked me to go so i said fuck it and went. i didn't tell him i'd already seen it twice. still great the third time through.

  

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126. "damn you muhfuckas!"
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ive still only seen it once. wish i wasnt so damn broke!
i caved and downloaded a shitty cam bootleg of it just to hold me over til my next theatre screening.

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127. "we are forming an elite uber-geek club on some threepeat shit."
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i didn't pay for the 3rd viewing. i got lucky.




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128. "ahh. well...."
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...i didn't pay for my first viewing hehe.
it was all kinda strange. see i entered this competition bout 4 weeks ago to go into a draw to win a double-pass to see the film. and then i just totally forgot about it. then two days before im gonna go see it, double-pass arrives in the mail! which was cool cos then i convinced another non-FF friend of mine to come cos he'd be seein the movie for free!

i feel bad tho, we're kinda not helping the movie make money hehe. or are we? im definitely payn for the next two viewings tho (yeh im goin for the 3 peat too u fuckers).

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133. "You better hurry before it's out the theaters!!!!!"
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134. "well, the thing is"
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there's this one theatre 5 mins away from where i live which screens new movies about a month after they come out, and all their movies are 5 bucks. if i don't catch it at the other theatres for the reg. price, i know i can just catch it there.

im jus waitin to get paid man. my stupid job only pays me once a month. n i seriously have about 15 bucks to my name lol.

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129. "went to 2nd viewing at the "gud" theatre - THUMBS UP"
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sound was great this time which totally enhanced the
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130. "jus finishd my 2nd viewing, @ home on the computer tho"
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crappy quality, but im too keen, and im too broke for even the cinema ticket rite now. but damn, shit was even better the second time.

and um...did anyone else get kinda teary at certain points? cos i sure as hell did. i think it was the music that got to me mostly.

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135. "definitely the music"
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on my third viewing i was able to pay closer attention to the music and i thought it was wonderful. the score really added to what was happening visually. same goes for the show itself, it had great music as well. i'd assume wheden hired the same dude to do both.

  

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131. "BOX OFFICE UPDATE:"
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"Estimates for the US weekend suggest SERENITY has taken another $3 million for the weekend (off 57%) for a cumulative box office of $22.9 million."

that is not bad at all. it's made just over 50% of its budget back sofar, and that's just U.S. figures. i know it's done about $2.6 million here in Australia, and it's been pretty popular in the U.K. from what i hear.

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137. "alright, not bad"
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the continually inching total makes it more and more likely each day that they will do the other two movies they had planned.

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132. "AND CAN WE GET A MUHFUCKING ANCHOR FOR FUCKS SAKE??"
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seriously.
im guna keep uppin this post and annoying the crap out of PTP until this shit gets an anchor.

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148. "They haters, mang."
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They don't want to give this film the recognition it deserves.

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149. "no one does"
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seems like Serenity is an underdog EVERYWHERE.

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136. "keep in mind, Book took down an alliance cruiser by himself..."
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futher "I used to be an operative but I ain't telling" support.

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138. "RE: keep in mind, Book took down an alliance cruiser by himself..."
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the whole conversation between him and Mal pretty much gives it away anyway.

Mal: "you'll have to tell me about that part of your life someday."
Book: "no i don't."

that whole conversation and the look that they give each other at the end of the convo pretty much let's you know what's up.

  

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139. "WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE TAKE: $29,283,117"
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and counting.

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i haven't seen any episodes of firefly- though i'll be rectifying that little blunder ASAP

i thoroughly enjoyed it- and didn't have a single problem going in to it 'blind'.

whedon's writing is sublime.

there better be sequels..

  

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141. "but but but..."
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sequels without Wash?!? Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

  

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142. "i like the grittiness"
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143. "Whedon keeps hinting Washand Book"
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won't comepletely be outta the picture. tho outside of flashbacks, i don't see how that's possible.

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145. "I finally caught it this weekend"
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A little issue of me having no money prevented me from seeing it earlier. I thoroughly enjoyed this flick. Makes me even MADDER (Yeah, I'm mad doggie) that Fox cancelled it. I really would like to see where these characters go from here. I seriously doubt there will be a feature film sequel. Although it only cost $39 million to make, I don't think it will pull in the box office numbers to "justify" a sequel. No doubt the DVD sales will go through the roof, but it's more likely to be picked up by Sci Fi Channel for another run. Universal Studios distributed the flick, Universal/NBC got that relationship with the Sci Fi Channel, so I think that would probably be the most likely scenario.

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146. "there's still the worldwide sales to factor in"
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but news like THIS isn't gonna help it out at all:

"International Serenity openings being canceled"

Argentina, Thailand, Taiwan, Brazil and Singapore have all decided to release Serenity direct to DVD. International fans waiting for cinema release should check with UIP to see if it is still being released in their country.

Post subject: Arrgh. They took the sky from us.

I just hate this. I feel so... arrgh

I’m still in shock. I’m from Argentina and the movie realease date here was on December 1st.

Today UIP people called me. They say they won’t show the movie in theaters at all. Going straight to Video-DVD.

We are doing a petition, asking people to sign it, but I really feel helpless right now. There’s not a lot of people in this country that actually sign the petition and it’s not ’cause we can ask everybody to do so ’cause it wouldn’t be believable. So, I really think is useless.

GRRR.. I can’t tell you how much this sucks. All we want is to watch the movie on the big screen, the way it should be.

They really took the sky from us this time.
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147. "Serenity breaks $30 million worldwide over weekend"
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http://www.digg.com/

"Joss Whedon's "Serenity" broke $30 million worldwide this past weekend. According to fan lore, this achievement puts it on track for a sequel. Check out this breakdown of its progress to date."

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150. "Author of CANDORVILLE comic strip is apparently a big fan...."
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... so much that wrote a long article on the front page of his website.

http://www.candorville.com/

READ IT!!!!!






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151. "Firefly - Back To 2002 : True Story Of A Show Saved By Fans"
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http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=11993

From Emahollywood.com - By Allyson Beatrice - 2005-10-19







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Firefly AdThe cockpit smells like fireworks and sawdust; the wispy smell-echo of the explosions that occurred an hour earlier. The control panel appears to have been lifted from a trashcan by an angry raccoon searching for sustenance. It’s scratched, dented, crusty in spots. Sitting in the pilot’s seat, my feet don’t touch the floor and I have to lean forward to reach the steering wheel. I feel like Lily Tomlin’s Edith Ann being swallowed by that really big rocking chair.

A cute boy in a Civil War-ish soldier’s uniform winks at me and tells me it’s a go for launch, while my friend Kristen raises an eyebrow and grins. I imagine them steadying themselves as I grab the wheel. I’m the Sally Ride of this particular spaceship, which is anchored to a soundstage on Pico Boulevard at 20th Century Fox Studios. I’m on the set of Firefly, a television program which has just been canceled. This is the final week of shooting.

Firefly was a scifi show in danger of cancellation before the first episode ever aired. It was created by Joss Whedon, writer extraordinaire, made semi-famous for creating the cult television shows, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. My friend Kristen and I read the script for the pilot episode of Firefly months before it was broadcast. It sucked. It had no bite, no edge, no buzzwords that translated to "devastatingly hip." Having been delirious fangurls of Whedon’s previous creations, we were at first disappointed by our fallen hero, and then sort of reveling in a juicy mirth similar to every non-New Yorker’s glee when the Yankees lose a big game. We loved Whedon when he was the underdog auteur, but now he was a big-time producer with no time to chat and play with us little fans anymore. We were bitter.

If you asked us then if we’d end up spending the holidays feverishly mounting a campaign to save this show from its inevitable cancellation, we would’ve asked you for a hit of that fine crack you had obviously been smoking. What we hadn’t counted on was a guilt-inducing birthday gift, a cry for help from a worried wife, and our own abilities to lead an army of fangeeks into battle.

Our journey began when a small plea was posted to the internet by a fellow fangurl named Kiba to sign a petition in support of Firefly. Kiba had received a link to the petition from Whedon’s wife, Kai, who was worried that her husband’s latest labor of love was spiraling down the bowl, unable to grab a large enough audience to make the show profitable.

I dropped Kiba an email, explaining that online petitions were for losers. No one cared about them, and who would see it, anyway? You’d have to deliver the petition to someone at the network who had decision-making power, genuinely liked the show, and was in a position to advocate for it. Judging from the advertisements Fox put together for Firefly, the network not only didn’t understand their product, they were determined to have it bite the curb and stomp on its head.

The series was about a group of freedom fighters who were on the losing side of an interplanetary war, and had taken up a life of crime to keep themselves from starving to death. It was pretty grim. The music Fox chose to play during the commercials for Firefly was the maniacally zany song, "Walking on the Sun" by frat boy favorites, Smash Mouth. Apparently, the network confused this dark riff on the depressed era of the Reconstruction with MTV’s Spring Break. Fox never consulted Kristen or me, but we all seemed to be on the same page as far as the pilot was concerned, so they ordered a new pilot to be written, in 48 hours. This show was so doomed. An Act of Congress wasn’t going to save it, let alone an internet petition. No one reads internet petitions. You can sign with as many email addresses as you have and most people have several; the one you use for work, the one you use for friends, the one where all your spam goes, the one you use for porn. Four-hundred signatures on an internet petition equals two-hundred and thirty-seven people with too much time on their hands.

I sent Kiba a list of suggestions to mount a campaign that would hopefully get some much needed press attention, and maybe attract a few hundred more viewers to tune into Firefly. At least two of the chambers of my heart belong to fandom, and I felt sympathy for them over the inevitable loss of their show, even if the show, in my mind, sucked. Kiba was stressed. Her hero’s wife sent her a plea for help, but Kiba was starting grad school, and didn’t have the time to market a television show. I have no idea what Fox’s excuse was for having no time to market a television show, given that it seems to be part of their job description as a network.

For those of you readers who may be puzzled as to why a network would spend millions and millions of dollars to produce a television show and then take it out to the backlot and shoot it between the eyes, here’s a little primer about how the inner financial world of broadcast television works.

A network fronts an obscene amount of money to a studio full of creative-type people to produce a television series. An hour-long drama can cost about two million dollars or more per episode to produce, which includes actors’ salaries, the dental plan for the guy who holds the boom, donuts, wardrobe...you get the picture.

Now, this may be a surprising concept, but television executives did not get into the business as a purely altruistic endeavor to entertain the unwashed masses. Networks make money by selling 30-60 second dollops of time during a program to advertisers. A TV show is just succulent bait to lure unsuspecting hard-working Americans into watching commercials. The network promises the advertisers that a particular show will attract millions of viewers in a certain demographic. The most precious demographic is 18-40 year-old males, who supposedly have the most disposable income. So networks invest in television shows that they believe will appeal to the people who spend the most money on things like Sega games, pizza delivery, and unnecessarily large trucks. He who dies with the most toys not only wins, but also decides what the rest of us poor (dickless) jerks watch on television

Based on the promise the network has made to the advertisers regarding the number of boys who will be watching television during a certain time period, the advertisers will shell out thousands or millions of dollars to hawk their products to the viewers. For example, a 30 second spot during the 2004 Super Bowl cost $2.25 million. This provided drug companies with a key demographic to pitch Viagra and Cialis to the largest audience of limp dicks ever assembled.

The cost of making, marketing, and/or leasing a show from another studio must break even, or be less than the amount of money advertisers pay for their commercial minutes in order for the show to be a success and the network to have profited from their investment. If the demographic the network promised doesn’t tune into the show, the advertisers get pissed off and pull their ad dollars, feeling all disgruntled and cheated.

Now, before you get all paranoid and think that the FOX network has a spycam in your house to gauge what you watch and whether you in fact have a penis and loads of disposable income, let me explain the concept of Nielsen boxes. Nielsen is a company that takes a statistical measurement of television viewers in the US and abroad. There are "hundreds of thousands of Nielsen Families" according to the Nielsen website. People with Nielsen boxes and diaries decide what the rest of us watch. I’ve no idea how one becomes a Nielsen Family. It all seems very random, like a carload full of statisticians performing senseless drive-by shootings with spyware bullets throughout the suburbs. Every morning, the Nielsen ratings are posted, and advertisers can check to see whether the networks have delivered the demographics they promised.

When the network isn’t delivering the promised demographic, television shows get canceled. Critical acclaim does not matter. It doesn’t matter if four million 20-year-olds with a lust for video games tuned in to a show if the network promised six million of them. Your favorite television series can get axed if four Nielsen families all get together for a game of mini-golf and shut off their sets two Fridays in a row during a period called "sweeps", when Nielsen provides the most detailed data, pretty much.

But back to Firefly. I have no idea what sort of audience share was promised to the advertisers. Whatever it was, it wasn’t making good on the network’s gamble. It didn’t matter to me much because as I said, I thought the show sucked.

And then the script came in the mail.

It was October, Kristen’s birthday was a couple of days away, and one of Firefly’s producers sent her a signed script. "Hope you keep watching for as long as we’ve got. Love, Tim".

Damn. GUILT. Kristen and I hold a special place in our hearts for this particular producer, Tim Minear, who had been so kind to us back when he was working on one of our favorite shows, Angel. Kristen is the webmaster of Tim’s fansite,TimMinear.net. She developed a friendship with Tim, and earned a place in his heart what with the site and non-crazy attitude towards his work. He knew we both hated the show; we panned it in reviews on blogs and message boards. But he loved us anyway. We hadn’t really stopped to consider that Tim loved this show; it was as much his baby as it was Joss’. Because our love for Tim was huge and ferocious, we decided to put our shoulders to the wheel and try to save Firefly.

Saving a show is hard work. It requires many hours of sitting at an ergonomically unsound desk in front of a computer. We needed help. We needed an army. We needed three thousand dollars. We needed an endless supply of iced vanilla lattes.

Fortunately, just as we were beginning to gather troops throughout fandom, an episode of Firefly aired that was actually, stunningly, good. It was penned by our Tim, and was a uniquely nonlinear episode of television reminiscent of the noir submarine classic, Das Boot. It was the dark, twisted, filet-of-brain kind of television Kristen and I had expected from the beginning of the series, and we were so relieved. It’s much easier to try and save a show when you actually give a shit about it.

I called Joss Whedon’s production company, Mutant Enemy, and informed them that we were going to try and save Firefly.

Kristen and I have a history of running fan-funded ads in support of the television shows we love. Stand-up for Buffy, Give Buffy an Emmy, Congratulations on 100 episodes of Buffy. It’s a hobby. It keeps us off the streets. Our shared history as Mutant Enemy’s head cheerleaders meant that the people at Whedon’s production company would take our calls and give us anything we needed, no questions asked.

Our plan was to do FOX’s job and actually market the show. We researched who had reviewed Firefly and which reviewers panned it. We researched which companies were advertising on the series and kept a running log of them. We started designing a full page ad for Firefly to run in Daily Variety.

Mutant Enemy sent us a screener for another not un-brilliant episode of Firefly. We made copies to send to reviewers who hated the pilot episode, begging them to take a second look at the show and write another review. Fans can do what networks and production companies cannot. We can grovel. We don’t have to worry about image, because the mainstream media already thinks we’re losers. The best we can hope for is to appear to be endearing losers. Kristen and I were like little Shirley Temple Matchstick Girls with coal smudged faces, shaking a tin cup full of VHS tapes and pleading with Entertainment Weekly’s Ken Tucker, "Please kind sir, I’m starving and have nits, won’t you write something nice about this television show?"

At some point, I called Conan O’Brien and Craig Kilborn to see if either would like to interview Joss Whedon about the show. I may have overstepped some boundaries.

While we had a lot of leeway in what we could do to try and advertise the series, we had to be very careful not to reveal that Mutant Enemy was helping us in any way. There could be no appearance of impropriety. Years before, Kristen had campaigned hard to get the WB network to air the season three finale of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The network had canceled the airing of the finale because Buffy the fictional slayer blew up her fictional high school, and the real life Columbine shootings were still so recent. Since the network thought that the cult TV audience couldn’t tell the difference between the Trenchcoat Mafia and Sarah Michelle Gellar, they thought it would be a PR nightmare to air the episode. Whatever. WB network head Jamie Kellner admitted in an internet chat that he never actually viewed the finale before making his decision. So Kristen raised funds and purchased a full page ad in Daily Variety asking Kellner to pull his head out of his bloated ass and air the episode. The ad was titled, Stand Up for Buffy. The network accused Buffy’s producers of buying the ad themselves, which seemed an effort by WB executives to dismiss the audience’s ire as nonexistent. By the time the WB got around to airing the finale, thousands of fans had already seen it through the most massive online-tape trading tree ever assembled. The episode had aired in Canada, and our friends to the North took pity upon us and sent copies out en masse.

We didn’t want any accusations of insider orchestrations to happen with the Firefly campaign. It was hugely important for the advertisers and network to know that there was a growing, devoted fanbase willing to spend an obscene amount of cash to keep the show on the air. The trouble was that Kristen and I weren’t sure if the fandom was all that devoted, and even if they were, if we could get them to understand what we were doing and trust us enough to send us money and follow our lead.

So I called over to the show and asked for some signed scripts, t-shirts, props, anything at all that could be auctioned on eBay to raise funds.

Three scripts and a t-shirt brought in about twelve hundred bucks. We were on our way. Since we couldn’t tell the fans that we were talking to people at the show almost daily, it was a huge struggle to get them to follow our game plan.

Kristen and I were deeply entrenched in the Buffy and Angel fandoms for years, everyone who actively participated in the online fandom knew us and trusted us. People who hated us would still trust us with their PINs and would possibly co-sign for us on car loans. We always did what we said were going to do, and gave any leftover cash to charity, never taking a dime for ourselves.

But Firefly was a new show with a new fandom, completely green to ways of internet communities. They were just discovering that there was such a thing as internet fandom, that Trekkies didn’t own all the stock in television obsession.

And so when Kristen and I burst through their door babbling about saving the show and our game plan and oh yeah, send us all your money, the fans greeted us with skepticism and occasional hostility. It was understandable but terribly frustrating, because we needed to mobilize them fast.

I don’t want to overstate our predicament. It’s not as if no one trusted us or understood how dire the situation was. We found more support than opposition in just about every corner of the ’net. But the thing about the opposition is that they can be loud and ugly, and left unanswered, become a faction capable of a hostile takeover, looting, and riots. We needed to appease and/or smite our foes. Kristen does this with kindness and patience. I tend to do it with a wrecking ball and forty-eight pounds of plastique. I tend to react to naysayers and doubters with the statement that, "Those who can, Do. Those who can’t, bitch about those who can." I believe that’s mostly true.

For this round of internet battle, we went with Kristen’s methods.

The network had only ordered thirteen episodes of Firefly to be produced, nine shy of a full season. The Nielsen ratings were dismal. We knew this would make it easy for the network to pull the plug on the show at any time. In order to get the fans to trust us with their time and money, we were going to have to give them a brief history of our involvement in fandom. This was the first time we actually had to sit down and make a laundry list of exactly how much of our lives had been wasted by caring too much about television.

Between the two of us, we had raised about forty thousand dollars for ads in trade rags promoting the television we loved, throwing parties, managing charity auctions and fundraisers, and spent too much of our own cash on fansites and swag. It was a depressing list of years dedicated to promoting the careers of wealthy producers, and we were only somewhat cheered by the fact that at least we’re both very pretty and have good taste in shoes.

Either impressed or terrified by our fandom credentials, we managed to win the support of most of the skeptics and were able to shrug off the small handful of naysayers to reach our monetary goals.

The main goal was always to get one more episode on the air. We needed the gamble the network made on Firefly to bear fruit. If the show could grab enough Nielsen families, Firefly would turn a profit, and they’d hang on for another episode. One episode at a time. Try to build the audience through word of mouth. We were gambling, too. We were trying to figure out how many Nielsen families it would take to get us to the next episode. Four? Seven? To paraphrase a line in a Firefly script, it was like shooting a dart into space and hitting a target thousands of miles away.

Have you ever read Dr. Seuss’ Horton Hears a Who? It’s a story about an elephant holding a dandelion upon which rests a tiny planet populated by tiny people. The tiny people need to make sure the folks in Horton’s world can hear them and know that they’re alive and well, or Horton will be forced to drop the dandelion in a vat of boiling oil. All the tiny people gather up and scream, "WE ARE HERE, WE ARE HERE, WE ARE HERE, WE ARE HERE!" Eventually, they are heard at the 11th hour, and the dandelion is saved.

We appealed to the fanbase, asking them to do something simple and inexpensive; send the network and advertisers postcards with their demographic info listed on them. We told them to be their own Nielsen boxes. The cast and crew of Firefly were told that no one was watching, that they were playing to an empty house. In two weeks, eight-thousand postcards poured into the network’s mailing room in our effort to write our own tale, FOX President Gail Berman Hears a Fandom, and try to save our show from being dumped in the Cauldron of Cancellation.

Our Daily Variety ad was published in the December 9th edition. We thanked the network heads for greenlighting the series, we thanked the cast and crew, and we thanked each advertiser by name. The ad was passed around to the cast and crew who up until then were under the impression that no one was watching their work. Cranky Hollywood industry folk were abuzz about the classiness of this particular fan effort.

We were inspired.

Less than a week later, Firefly was canceled.

We got word from our favorite writer, Tim Minear, at one of the message boards we haunted during the campaign, www.buffistas.org.

Tim Minear - Dec 13, 2002 1:28:30 am PST #7606 of 10011

Hey, guys.

First off, wanted to say out loud to all what a brill ad that was in Variety. We were all impressed and moved. Not only was it dang nice, the doing of the thing, but it was really classy and smart.

Okay. Sigh.

We did get word tonight, Fox won’t be ordering any new eps. That translates to "cancelled." We will finish shooting the ep now in production (I’m directing, in fact Joss came down to the set to break the bad news to cast and crew — we wrapped early, but are back at it in the am), we’ll finish post on all eps, and Fox says they’re going to somehow air all eps. One expects with giant banner ads over them for Meet My Rich Phoney Sex Date or whatever unreality series they’ve got up their. Er. Sleeves.

And then Joss Whedon weighed in a few hours later.

joss - Dec 13, 2002 7:49:36 am PST #7717 of 10011 "What’s the rumpus?"

Four AM. Can’t sleep. Who’d have thought?

There’s a couple of things I’d like to say. And a few things I really can’t. First of all, I’m prouder of this show and the people I worked with on it than I can express in words, monkey noises, or hieroglyphics. I believe this has been some fairly great TV. And the experience of making it... I’ve had crew members who’ve been working for 20 years say they’ve never worked around such excitement, support and love. You walk on that set, you’re transported. The cast: 9 count ’em 9 incredibly talented actors who are all decent, wonderful people. This phenomenon cannot be explained by science.

Second of all, don’t think for a second that I have given up on this show. I think it has been mistreated shamefully, but the Fox network has indicated that they would not stand in the way (which they can) of my finding a new home for the show. That’s no easy prospect. But I will do everything in my power, as always, to keep this bird in the air. Of course I’ll post if there’s any news.

But even if the show goes back up elsewhere, I’m going to lose a good portion of my crew. Production will halt, they’ll need to find new jobs. You can’t imagine how that feels. How much they brought to the table, how hard and well they worked. And their Christmas bonus is this. As much as the cast, the staff, and my not so secret lover Minear, I honor those guys, and hope to get them back on board.

So for now, I proudly take my place beside Profit, The Ben Stiller Show, the Tick, and Action. But I won’t rest until I’ve found safe harbour (no, not the Gregory Harrison show) for this vessel.

I’ve got the time.

It ain’t like I’m sleeping. -joss.

That morning, I took up a small collection to send flowers over to the set for the crew who had just found themselves pinkslipped two weeks before Christmas. We were completely deflated for about 30 seconds. But when the Rapture comes, you want Kristen and me on your side. The next day we made calls to find out if Mutant Enemy was going to shop the show to another network, and as it turned out, they were taking their pitch to UPN. So we pulled a U-Turn and crashed the campaign through the network’s front door. Kristen posted the new directions before our fandom army had a chance to go AWOL.

Kristen - Dec 13, 2002 3:36:31 pm PST #7940 of 10011 I can kill you with my brain.

Attention, K-Mart Shoppers...I mean, Buffistas...

Okay, we have a direction to point you in. We like to call this direction, UPN.

What we need are postcards by the truckload going to Les Moonves and Dawn Tarnofsky-Ostroff. You can send any kind of postcards you’d like to but we thought it would be a nice touch if the cards had a certain uniformity.

There is now a PDF up at It’s an 8.5 x 11 sheet of postcards that feature the Variety Ad. You can print the document onto cardstock, cut them into fours and, voila, four handy postcards. All postcards should be mailed to:

Les Moonves, CBS 7800 Beverly Blvd. 3rd floor Los Angeles, CA 90036

Dawn Tarnofsky-Ostroff President, Entertainment (CEO) United Paramount Network 11800 Wilshire Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90025

On the back, let them know how much you enjoyed the show while it was on FOX, and how eager you are for it to find a home with UPN. Keep things upbeat and positive, so they’ll know what classy fans Joss and his crew will be bringing to the network! Some ideas for things to mention: your favorite episode, why the show moves you, why you think the show has potential, etc.

Our two catchwords now are: VOLUME and SPEED.

We need a lot of postcards on their desks really damn fast. Thanks guys!

Kristen got a call from Tim Minear’s assistant that week. We were invited to the set to watch the final episode filming. I got to sit in the pilot’s chair of the spaceship set, and be a complete fangurl dork, punching the buttons, steering, making VROOOOM noises. I made a complete jackass out of myself, and loved every second of it. It was an important thing to be able to touch the thing we were so desperately trying to save. Now I know how those fuzzy-headed environmentalists feel when they swim with dolphins or chain themselves to falling redwoods.

The fans were furious about the cancellation, and it appeared as though our grassroots campaign to rally the fandom had caught fire. As more people jumped on the Save Firefly bandwagon, it got increasingly hard to steer. I blame Roswell. Roswell was a scifi show that received quite a bit of publicity when fans fearing the cancellation of the show sent thousands of bottles of Tabasco sauce to the network in protest. The sexy teenage aliens on Roswell had hard-ons for hotsauce, so it was all very symbolic. Roswell didn’t get canceled, the fans rejoiced, and a legend was born. Every fan campaign to save a show since has been left with this Roswell legacy that says if you flood the network with whatever weird object used for product placement, your show will be saved from cancellation. This is further proof that too many confuse brainstorms with shitstorms. The Roswell pick up was more complex than Tabasco, but they sure did get a lot of press from the fiery condiment.

Post 9/11, sending containers of anything unsolicited to a huge media conglomerate is not such a good idea. We needed to steer the fans away from sending crates of apples, boxes of rubber gloves, or mailing their own ears a la Van Gogh to the network, lest we incite a huge anthrax panic and cause the network to evacuate their offices. Fans wanted to send apples to the network after an episode of Firefly aired in which apples were containers for tiny bombs which would blow one’s head off at first bite. Another suggested sending millions of blue latex gloves, as worn by the creepy villains on Firefly.

Suggestions become actions very quickly. How to put the kibosh on such suggestions without appearing an evil tyrant hell-bent on destroying someone’s dream of good intentions is not my forte. This is what I posted to a message board after Fox canned Firefly and we were appealing to the United Paramount Network to pick the show up:

Do not send gloves, apples, underwear, flowers, fingerpaintings, Tabasco, pixie sticks, chocolates, or any object, of any kind, to anyone.

Send postcards. That’s all. You want to do more? Send a postcard to your affiliate station. More than that? Write a letter to the editor of your favorite magazine or newspaper.

But that’s it.

The fans are not in a position to force, intimidate, or convince anyone to pick up this show.

Joss/Mutant Enemy is in that position. We are supporting that position. That is all.

Every object that you send will be perceived as threatening, and make a bad impression. It will hinder, not help.

UPN and FOX will have no friggin’ clue what blue gloves mean. They won’t. They won’t see the symbolism, and even so, what IS the symbolism? Think about who wears the blue gloves, and whether those characters are hostile.

Send postcards, write to affiliates and media outlets, and for the love of all that is good and holy, do not do anything that makes us look like asswipes.

I know intentions are good. I understand and am happy that people want to do more. You’re doing enough. We’ve shown the network that there is heavy interest in the show. Now Joss/ME has to show the network that it would be profitable for them.

Either he will succeed or fail. But NO ONE is going to do something that may cause a friggin’ evacuation of UPN’s offices.

We’re not PICKETING. We’re not PROTESTING.

Those things make us look like we’ve got several screws loose.

So far, we’re bright and funny and loyal. Let’s keep it that way.

I lost my shit completely. We were only a couple of weeks from closing up shop on the Firefly campaign, and I had been taking everything entirely too seriously for two months. My brain hurt. I wanted my life back. My email box had been bursting at the cyberseams for weeks with zany suggestions involving crates of irradiated fruit and accusations of being a starfucker. Kristen talked me down from the ledge and reminded me that this was supposed to be more hobby, less crusade.

Two years later, a film version of Firefly called Serenity has been greenlit by Universal Studios, to be released in September 2005. An epic fairy tale evolved, and the marketing of the film includes a giddy gravelly voice-over, "After only eleven episodes, Firefly was mysteriously pulled from the air...thanks to the dedication of the Firefly fans, Joss, and the cast of Firefly, they got the chance to continue their story." It’s a lovely David and Goliath myth, one that ignores the facts that there was nothing mysterious about a network canceling a show that was hemorrhaging millions of dollars, or that Universal gave Joss Whedon 40 million dollars (a paltry sum by today’s filmmaking standard budget) to woo him away from 20th Century Fox. It worked: Joss canceled his contract with Fox and went off to make a film. Neither fandom, nor our campaign to save Firefly, had anything to do with Serenity getting greenlighted. We both wonder, if the studio is choosing to use the campaign we built to save the show as the backbone to its marketing, shouldn’t we get a cut of the profits?

Kristen and I found ourselves essentially erased from Firefly’s fandom story, and a goodly portion of the fans who would sell their mothers into a sex slave ring to score tickets to an early screening of the flick have never heard of either of us. As more fans discovered Firefly through the DVDs and more internet communities dedicated to Firefly popped up on the ’net, the history of the campaign was watered down and our roles in it seemed to be forgotton by everyone. Then I received a call from Serenity’s Executive Producer, Chris Buchanan, who asked me for suggestions on which fans to invite to the red carpet premiere of the flick.

"Uh, me?"

It wasn’t a cut of the profits, but it was a little bit of love and appreciation, and I could live with that. I’m such a sucker.

Despite my bitterness about being forgotten by them, I’d still throw down for the fandom. They were, and still are, heart-melty generous and uber-organized, and while we can’t take credit for the movie, I like to believe that our campaign taught them how much good they could do in the world by putting all of their collective energy together toward a common goal. Since the campaign ended, they’ve gone on to raise tens of thousands of dollars for charity in the name of their fandom.

What began as a love letter to a favorite writer turned into an insanely epic and ridiculous drama that sucked out my brain and regurgitated it on the bathroom floor. I’m sure this sort of drama happens on smaller scales at PTA bake sales and town hall meetings about the importance of newly placed stop signs across America. But it happened to me and a TV show and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

It’s absurdly easy to hook one’s claws into a cause and hang on long after it stops bucking and lays down dead on the pavement. Onlookers ask if there isn’t anything better you can do with your time, and all you can do is hiss and bare your fangs and make nonsensical arguments, inflating importance and meaning until the cause is bloated and deformed, unrecognizable.

And it was important to me, and about four million other weekly viewers who tuned in every Friday for an hour of escapism, and the thousands who flocked to message boards to discuss the thing that gave them some measure of happiness for a little while. It was certainly important to the caterers and actors and production assistants who made their living nailing Firefly together every week. Maybe my time could have been better spent protesting the use of anal electrocution of minks by hurling paintballs at elite models wearing fur lined panties. That certainly seems more noble a cause than protesting the cancellation of a cult television program.

I look at TV the way some people look at their neighborhood pub. It’s the way I escape the monotony of everyday life, the daily typing of memos and cleaning of the cat’s litter box. In the end, Firefly gave me some measure of joy in my otherwise painfully dull life. The campaign kept my head busy, kept me focused on something interesting outside of my tiny world. It meant a great deal to some folks I adore: it provided me with some sort of clear goal that wasn’t about expense reports or choosing the right 401k stocks. The Daily Variety ad we designed is featured on the Firefly DVD set, and when we ended the campaign, those closest to us in the fandom sent us huge bouquets of flowers and gift certificates to our favorite spa. So gracious.

And even though the show got cancelled, I still got to pilot a spaceship.

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