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nappiness
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"Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????"


          

This response IS NOT MY OWN!!! I got it from the BRC listserv. I thought it was interesting and would make for an interesting discussion....

I ask this, because I can't believe the apathy surrounding the very
real threat to Black empowerment there is, with the Lieberman vice
presidential nomination.

This was obviously not a choice which Al Gore jr. made freely.

I took particular umbrage earlier this evening when Mr. Tapper of
either Slate or Salon, referred to Jesse Jackson as Jesse 'Hymietown'
Jackson, and stated vituperatively that Blacks are the largest group
of anti-Semitics in America.

There has to be more concern on the part of Black Americans to lend
their traditional support to the Democratic ticket this November
7/2000. This is not the party of 40 years ago, it's the party of the
Jewish interests.

Lieberman is against Affirmative Action, and supported school
vouchers, if only because this would benefit orthodox Jewish schools
more than anything else.

The apathy on the part of Black Americans is astounding. The true
deciding vote this political season is the Black vote, and in kind,
for the deep animus which Jews bear Blacks, look at the media
vilification, Blacks should en masse do one of two things, vote
Republican, or abstain. The latter would be ineffective, because it
could still mean a Democratic victory.

Send these power mad, racists, the only power you've got, the vote.
Money can buy a vice presidential nomination, thanks of course to
having raped Africa of gold and diamonds, but the vote can send bold
cupidity packing.

It'll be a more hellish future for Black Americans if this velvet
glove more thorough coup d'etat, were sanctioned in november by the
Black vote.



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This is
Aug 16th 2000
1
WHOA
Aug 16th 2000
3
let me tell ya something
Aug 16th 2000
2
who are you voting for?
Aug 16th 2000
5
      ain't sure yet
Aug 16th 2000
7
Oh what a tangled web we weave
Aug 16th 2000
4
scary ain't it?
Aug 16th 2000
8
      Hmmmm
Phraktal
Aug 16th 2000
9
      like that dontcha? (n/m)
Aug 16th 2000
10
      Hell Yeah!
Aug 16th 2000
11
It's time to do something DIFFERENT!
Aug 16th 2000
6
RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????
Aug 16th 2000
12
RE: war on rap?
Aug 17th 2000
13
RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????
Phraktal
Aug 17th 2000
14
RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????
Aug 19th 2000
18
RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????
Aug 17th 2000
15
      Tough decisions
Aug 17th 2000
16
We are a threat to our OWN
Aug 18th 2000
17
RE: We are a threat to our OWN
Aug 20th 2000
19
      Mr. G., NO it doesn't make sense
Aug 21st 2000
20

janey
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1. "This is"
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a really good example of how misinformation can be spread via the internet. The writer of this was terribly misinformed, as Lieberman has stated explicitly that he favors affirmative action, and he did so at a meeting with the National Black Caucus leaders.

Lots of info on www.vote.com

Uninformed opinion = gossip. The trouble comes when people can't distinguish between their opinions and facts. (That's my opinion)

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janey
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3. "WHOA"
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Sorry, that's www.voteR.com -- vote.com is totally different and kinda wack, in my opinion.

Peace.

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2. "let me tell ya something"
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one one of the first posts on this board i menationed that the decision of who to vote for in the 2000 presidential election was going to be a hard one.

since then it's become even more difficult. for all intensive purposes the candidates (and their running mates) chosen by the demo-publicans are horrible beyond imagination (okay maybe i could think of worse, but they still suck).

not looking at anyones religion (although this should play a part, especially when the politicians in question use their spirituality as a battleflag), but strictly their voting records, speeches, and other political factors (like who finances them) i will say this one mo gin....

we're in trouble if these guys win (which one of them will).

i sincerely hope before anyone submits their ballot that they have really researched the candidates they've chosen.

i heard it said that this election will either turn us back or move us forward and i agree.

think before you vote (and yer a$$ better vote).

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5. "who are you voting for?"
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res->one

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BooDaah
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7. "ain't sure yet"
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damn sure ain't bush/cheyney or buchanan
leaning toward NOT gore/lieberman
still examining nader (if he makes the ballot)


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4. "Oh what a tangled web we weave"
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Maxine Waters refused to campaigne for Leiberman based upon his voting record and public statements regarding school vouchers and Affirmative Action....

Leiberman meets with the Political Black Caucus; they (she and Leiberman) come out cheek to cheek.
Hum......

I gotta wonder what kind of concession where made in that meeting. When will they be evident?
Leiberman did say that he thought we should look at Prop 209 according to USA Today. WTF? Why? Somebody explain to me why the ills of this proposition needed to be considered by anyone who values diversity and fairness......

I just dont know......

Even after you research your candidates and you come up with info like this, I beleive that it only substantiates the "lessor of the two evils" theory. And it puts conscious voting people in quite a quandry.

Man, if I had some hair, I'd be pulling it out.

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8. "scary ain't it?"
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>Maxine Waters

monday of this week she was like "hell no" now she's all cheese and crackers.

something's fishy

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Phraktal

Wed Aug-16-00 08:14 AM

  
9. "Hmmmm"
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"Cheese and crackers"-the new motto of American politics?


  

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10. "like that dontcha? (n/m)"
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11. "Hell Yeah!"
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and Maxine is somebody that I've admired. But I guess the bottom line is that everybody has got to concede something....and being a stellwart (sp) for the Democratic party means endorsing their candidates.....this is not the time for division....democrats need a united front....Maxine's gotta tow the line or have something that she cares about "thrown to swine" - I would guess.

How does this play into building your own leaders?

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6. "It's time to do something DIFFERENT!"
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If what you been doin ain workin, try something else!

Let's start a new party! My vote is too precious to cast it to swine.....

Does anybody know what came out of the huge advocacy seminar at USC this past weekend. And the question that I asked in a previous post is: Can we follow whatever direction has yeilded from it? Can we be cohesive enough to follow NOW?

A I frustrated? Hell Yeah!

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12. "RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????"
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i'm just at a loss as to who to vote for
this is my first presidential election where i'm old enough to vote.

it's definitely not bushcheney.
gorelieberman...they are going to go so far over board to de-clintonize themselves....try to make puritans out of us.

keep this in mind.
Tipper Gore headed the PMRC...reason why you have those parental advisories on cds...video games haev ratings.
Lieberman teamed up w/ Bill Bennet to pressure Hollywood to clean up the violence and sex in movies and music. (not that this was a bad thing....but..)

another war on rap coming soon??



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13. "RE: war on rap?"
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hey, i hadn't thought about that, u r probably right another war against hip hop,,,,uhmmmmmmmm.



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Phraktal

Thu Aug-17-00 05:24 AM

  
14. "RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????"
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>another war on rap coming soon??

Doubt it. Hip-Hop has proven to be economically viable since then. Plus big business would never allow it. The same cats who had a hand in financing his campaign are the same cats who run The mega-corporations who run major record labels.

Peace...







  

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18. "RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????"
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>
>>another war on rap coming soon??
>
>Doubt it. Hip-Hop has proven
>to be economically viable since
>then. Plus big business
>would never allow it.
>The same cats who had
>a hand in financing his
>campaign are the same cats
>who run The mega-corporations who
>run major record labels.

Your theory is contrary to history though, because the hip-hop acts attacked by politicians are always the most commercially viable (if memory serves, run dmc, at their height, were a main focus of tipper's assault, odd as it sounds). you're also assuming that corporations wouldn't see political attacks on their artists as *free publicity*. when snoop and tupac were distributed by time-warner, newsweek (owned by time-warner) ran a cover story on criticism of snoop and tupac, in a piece which could be seen as a thinly veiled ad for snoop's debut album (snoop made the cover). any attack on rap by gore-lieberman could be seen by corporations as more "anti-authority" credibility for their artists, sort of like how NWA flipped that FBI letter into a publicity bonanza.

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15. "RE: Lieberman threat to Black empowerment??????"
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>i'm just at a loss as
>to who to vote for
>
>this is my first presidential election
>where i'm old enough to
>vote.
>
>it's definitely not bushcheney.
>gorelieberman...they are going to go so
>far over board to de-clintonize
>themselves....try to make puritans out
>of us.
>
>keep this in mind.
>Tipper Gore headed the PMRC...reason why
>you have those parental advisories
>on cds...video games haev ratings.
>
>Lieberman teamed up w/ Bill Bennet
>to pressure Hollywood to clean
>up the violence and sex
>in movies and music.
>(not that this was a
>bad thing....but..)
>
>another war on rap coming soon??

Oh damn, this is really scary. I sure hope Nader makes the ballot. But, I'm afraid if I vote Nader that Bush will win by default. And truthfully,I would rather have Gore win. I don't know !!!! Damn, I'm not looking forward to going to the voting booth at all(Mommy, I'm scared,for real).

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16. "Tough decisions"
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Particularly when you realize that Clinton would not have won in 1996 without Perot's help.

You can find the state-by-state breakdown in www.voter.com. I live in Cali, where Clinton got all the electoral votes with 48% of the popular vote. That's a close one.

To split the liberal vote or not to split the liberal vote? That is the question.

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nushooz
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17. "We are a threat to our OWN"
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empowerment.....
The very essence of the word empowerment dictates that WE RUN THIS.....meaning if we are ever to be truly empowered...will it be doled out by Leiberman or anybody other government official? Empowerment would dictate us organizing our own political party, seriously influencing the independent or any other party - to the point of more than R&B/Gospel service (in addition to lip service) at their conventions, ceasing all OVER ANALYZING of THE PROBLEM and being about eradicating - actively - THE PROBLEM.

Sure Ronald Reagen caused some serious damage to this country but on the other side of the coin there were ALL those politically conscious hip-hoppers that evolved from it. Can we say -"adversity may build character and COHESION? Can we say WAKE UP!

Are YOU empowered by GORE/LEIBERMAN......or what????

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19. "RE: We are a threat to our OWN"
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>
>Sure Ronald Reagen caused some serious
>damage to this country but
>on the other side of
>the coin there were ALL
>those politically conscious hip-hoppers that
>evolved from it. Can
>we say -"adversity may build
>character and COHESION? Can
>we say WAKE UP!

So you would rather have African Americans be screwed by Bush, but have more politically conscious hip-hoppers, than have a candidate that probably won't make things worse like Gore? That doesn't make much sense.

When did Chuck D have the power to appoint people to the Supreme Court?

Shaun G.

  

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20. "Mr. G., NO it doesn't make sense"
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If YOU misunderstand

>>Sure Ronald Reagen caused some serious
>>damage to this country but on the other side of
>>the coin there were ALL those politically conscious hip-hoppers that evolved from it. Can
>>we say -"adversity may build
>>character and COHESION? Can we say WAKE UP!
>
>So you would rather have African
>Americans be screwed by Bush,
>but have more politically conscious
>hip-hoppers, than have a candidate
>that probably won't make things
>worse like Gore? That
>doesn't make much sense.

You're right it doesn't make sense. But that's not what I'm saying. WHAT I said was that adversity builds character. And during an adverse time -Reagan's reign, character built, politically conscious, hip-hoppers emerged.

>When did Chuck D have the power to appoint people to the Supreme Court?

When he elects an official that represents his veiws. That fundamental democracy.

And is that all you could find to say about the post? Are you not responsible for your OWN empowerement?

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