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AK06
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"Game Theory Linear Notes"


          

Word on the street is that ?uest is goin to be sacrificing his beloved linear notes in place of lyric listing. Hope this is nothing but rumours as I love reading how the song was formed and its background...

  

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nooooooooooooooooooooooo
May 31st 2006
1
first the Fat Boys break up and now this....
May 31st 2006
2
i can listen to the song to hear lyrics..i cant hear ?uest's input..
May 31st 2006
3
yup ?uest said this himself
May 31st 2006
4
RE: Game Theory Linear Notes
May 31st 2006
5
RE: Game Theory Linear Notes
May 31st 2006
6
didnt tipping point have both?
May 31st 2006
15
yeah, then the cd booklet wouldn't fit into the slot, brosef
Jun 09th 2006
37
eh
May 31st 2006
7
RE: eh
May 31st 2006
8
      Cosign!
May 31st 2006
9
      this is bs. hip-hop lyrics can be read as poetry 2. Someone could say
May 31st 2006
12
           RE: this is bs. hip-hop lyrics can be read as poetry 2.
Jun 01st 2006
17
                true
Jun 01st 2006
18
will there be exponential notes?
May 31st 2006
10
LOL
May 31st 2006
11
RE: will there be exponential notes?
Jun 01st 2006
23
RE: will there be exponential notes?
Jun 03rd 2006
31
Eventually, notes reach a carrying capacity, and few can reproduce
Jun 09th 2006
38
Whoa! Now you know Jigga got power over ?uest to forsake his....
May 31st 2006
13
RE: Whoa! Now you know Jigga got power over ?uest to forsake his....
May 31st 2006
14
?uest is gonna start ghostwriting Jay's liner notes, n/m
Jun 09th 2006
39
O_O
Jun 01st 2006
16
naaaw
Jun 01st 2006
19
RE: Game Theory Linear Notes
Jun 01st 2006
20
liner notes please!!!
Jun 01st 2006
21
yea..
Jun 01st 2006
22
Tipping Point had both
Jun 02nd 2006
24
bad move
Jun 02nd 2006
25
RE: bad move
Jun 02nd 2006
26
boo nigga booooo
Jun 02nd 2006
27
they could make it an enhanced CD
Jun 03rd 2006
28
enhanced CD = less music
Jun 03rd 2006
29
      if the album isnt taking up the whole cd, it doesnt matter.
Jun 03rd 2006
30
RE: Game Theory Linear Notes
Jun 04th 2006
32
Should have both, but I want liner notes instead of lyrics...
Jun 04th 2006
33
up
Jun 09th 2006
34
RE: Game Theory Linear Notes
Jun 09th 2006
35
I'll still read through the lyrics while I'm sitting on the toilet n/m
Jun 09th 2006
36

Origin05
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1. "nooooooooooooooooooooooo"
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not the linear's.. its apart of the EXPERIENCE of listening to a new roots album.

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2. "first the Fat Boys break up and now this...."
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Mike Check
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3. "i can listen to the song to hear lyrics..i cant hear ?uest's input.."
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Wed May-31-06 05:35 AM by Mike Check

  

          

ive never once spent time readin' lyrics off a cd book like i have readin' ?uest's liners...






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Eddy
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4. "yup ?uest said this himself"
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in an xxl interview i think.

someone should start a petition or something, unless theres other important reasons for not having them i really think 99% of roots fans would prefer liner notes over lyrics

  

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snipe
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5. "RE: Game Theory Linear Notes"
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can't we just have both???

  

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6. "RE: Game Theory Linear Notes"
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>can't we just have both???

with limited DVD pressing of the RCMH show...

dreaming. reaching. i know.

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15. "didnt tipping point have both?"
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but i love the liner notes it just makes me feel important that i get to know how these songs are made, and sometimes change how i feel about a song

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37. "yeah, then the cd booklet wouldn't fit into the slot, brosef"
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betelgeuse
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7. "eh"
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i bet he'll be talking about 'the making of' either here or on his myspace page.

so nothing's lost imo.

  

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AK06
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8. "RE: eh"
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you're wrong brother there is so much lost, the notes in the album are part of the roots experience. Gettin your hands on the album for the first time, sitting down with your headies, a blunt and the linear notes, going from start to finish is 'the ultimate' hip hop experience.

Hip Hop isn't poetry, the lyrics should be interpreted around the beat whilst listening, (even better whilst reading the notes) so I dont need the lyrics. But to get inside ?uest's head and inside the song is something I will never be able to do (unless the roots are lookin for a new bass player?!) without the linear notes...

  

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DeadMike
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9. "Cosign!"
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Yeah I'll definately be disappointed if there's no liner notes. I'd take liner notes over lyrics anyday. You can always figure out the lyrics for yourself or find them on the net.

  

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12. "this is bs. hip-hop lyrics can be read as poetry 2. Someone could say"
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the same thing about the music (I dion't give a fuck about you talking about it I just want to hear it).

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AK06
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17. "RE: this is bs. hip-hop lyrics can be read as poetry 2."
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I agree that hip hop can be read as poetry and basically is a form of poetry, especially seeing as poetry stems from an aural culture. But the linear notes provide more than an just illustration of who played what. For example from TTP notes we find out about the extremly buzzy story behind 'Star' and how ?uest had to pump his guns in order to be able to play the 'Boom!' beat. These are things that can never be extracted from mere interpretation of the track.

  

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betelgeuse
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18. "true"
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they definitely are a nice addition to the music. the music should
speak for itself though. and i trust we'll always get notes from
quest one way or the other.

  

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10. "will there be exponential notes?"
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11. "LOL"
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it's good to see the "linear" notes thing wasn't just bothering me...

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23. "RE: will there be exponential notes?"
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Hahahaha, I don't know whether to be disappointed at the potential lack of liner notes, or to laugh at this.

  

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AK06
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31. "RE: will there be exponential notes?"
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wooooops

  

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38. "Eventually, notes reach a carrying capacity, and few can reproduce"
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Social Darwinism, beeotch


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13. "Whoa! Now you know Jigga got power over ?uest to forsake his...."
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Wed May-31-06 12:55 PM by jambone

  

          

...beloved liner notes. lol No wonder ?uest went all out on Home Grown with the liner notes.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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14. "RE: Whoa! Now you know Jigga got power over ?uest to forsake his...."
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I dont think it had anything to do with Jay but there has to be more to it then they just want to put only lyrics in there instead.

"If your not feeling me fine you cost me nothing pay me no mind" ~ Jay-z

  

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39. "?uest is gonna start ghostwriting Jay's liner notes, n/m"
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16. "O_O"
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19. "naaaw"
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i dont believe it. either its bs, or quest is tryn to trick us. either way, if we give this thread enough posts, we can convince him to put them in. come on guys, lets go for a record number posts with this one.

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20. "RE: Game Theory Linear Notes"
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man, we need liner notes.

  

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21. "liner notes please!!!"
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having the lyrics is cool but the liner notes are invaluable!
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22. "yea.."
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im gonna have to see those liner notes. i mean, come on!

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24. "Tipping Point had both"
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But I'd sacrifice Lyrics for Liners any day. PLEASE continue to make buying the CD instead of iTuning it worth it with those wonderful liners.

  

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25. "bad move"
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u can google any song to get lyrics these days. artists know that.

cant do that for liner notes though. it should be a no brainer.

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26. "RE: bad move"
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good point, hope quest is reading!

  

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27. "boo nigga booooo"
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28. "they could make it an enhanced CD"
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and have the liner notes as a bonus feature?

maybe video of quest talking about the songs? or showing how the beats were created in the studio?

  

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29. "enhanced CD = less music"
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30. "if the album isnt taking up the whole cd, it doesnt matter."
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32. "RE: Game Theory Linear Notes"
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(banging on cafeteria table)

LI-NER NOTES!!
LI-NER NOTES!!
LI-NER NOTES!!

It's the only other time I read besides bills, this site, and lyrics. Sad? Yes. But so is not having Liner Notes. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

  

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33. "Should have both, but I want liner notes instead of lyrics..."
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34. "up"
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35. "RE: Game Theory Linear Notes"
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If the Tipping Point has both, why can't Game Theory have both?

?uest, whats up with this?

You gotta be kind to the growing mind

  

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36. "I'll still read through the lyrics while I'm sitting on the toilet n/m"
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