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HighVoltage
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"Mos Def was on another level tonight..."


  

          

HighLine ballroom was the place to be tonight in NYC.

Mos def. Q tip. Kweli. Aaand a live band.

Sheeeeiit.

Amazing.

I also discovered that black thought has some serious competition as far as breath control is concerned because mos def was absolutely flawless on the mic.

Hearing blackstar do thieves in the night with a live band was worth the hefty price tag alone.

Any other okps in attendance for this one?

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maaaan, i know that show was good!
May 27th 2007
1
Richmond, CA?
May 28th 2007
15
Nah fam, Richmond Virginia.
Jun 01st 2007
18
RE: maaaan, i know that show was good!
Jun 04th 2007
29
TOLD Y'ALL!
May 27th 2007
2
That sounds tight.
May 27th 2007
3
RE: That sounds tight.
May 27th 2007
4
the band was...
May 27th 2007
5
      Anybody recorded the show?
May 27th 2007
6
      no.
Jun 15th 2007
71
      Is Charles related to Roy Haynes?
May 27th 2007
8
      im not sure, but Charles was killin it all night
May 27th 2007
9
      The presence of ....
Jun 07th 2007
42
May 27th 2007
7
May 31st 2007
16
Are these cats touring?
May 27th 2007
10
for real.
May 27th 2007
11
bout time..
May 27th 2007
12
nope
May 27th 2007
13
wow
May 28th 2007
14
did you tape it?
May 31st 2007
17
RE: Mos Def was on another level tonight...
Jun 01st 2007
19
what up richmond!?
Jun 06th 2007
37
It's driving me out of my miiiiind
Jun 01st 2007
20
i dno what rwq is but id love to see this..inbox if it pops up
Jun 01st 2007
21
RE: i dno what rwq is but id love to see this..inbox if it pops up
Jun 01st 2007
22
RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind
Jun 01st 2007
23
RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind
Jun 02nd 2007
24
*WHOOOSH*
Jun 02nd 2007
25
RE: *WHOOOSH*
Jun 03rd 2007
26
Oh shit, this is tight!
Jun 04th 2007
27
RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind
Jun 04th 2007
28
nice.
Jun 04th 2007
31
RWQ
Jun 05th 2007
33
RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind
Jun 06th 2007
38
RWQ
Jun 08th 2007
46
RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind
Jun 10th 2007
57
RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind
Jun 13th 2007
61
I wish I had read this before...
Jun 15th 2007
76
His new flick Be Kind Rewind
Jun 04th 2007
30
uh, and another one (c) biggie
Jun 04th 2007
32
Holy shit!
Jun 05th 2007
34
RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie
Jun 05th 2007
35
RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie
Jun 06th 2007
36
RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie
Jun 07th 2007
39
RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie
Jun 07th 2007
40
RWQ
Jun 08th 2007
47
RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie
Jun 10th 2007
58
RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie
Jun 10th 2007
59
thanks!
Jun 14th 2007
68
RE: Thanks !
Jun 15th 2007
74
I'm tired of seeing Mos Def with a band...
Jun 07th 2007
41
1. you're crazy
Jun 07th 2007
44
      you are misinformed man.
Jun 08th 2007
51
BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 07th 2007
43
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 08th 2007
45
RWQ
Jun 08th 2007
48
so many thanks for this
Jun 08th 2007
49
that was a great read
Jun 08th 2007
50
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 09th 2007
52
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 09th 2007
54
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 10th 2007
60
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 13th 2007
62
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 13th 2007
64
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 15th 2007
72
appreciate the love...
Jun 22nd 2007
79
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 23rd 2007
81
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 23rd 2007
82
RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright....
Jun 25th 2007
88
RE: Mos Def was on another level tonight...
Jun 09th 2007
53
why you callin' him a bigot?
Jun 09th 2007
55
I guess it's kinda wrong
Jun 09th 2007
56
yo HV i know you got more tracks
Jun 13th 2007
63
what... like this?
Jun 13th 2007
65
      yesssssss! (m. albert)
Jun 14th 2007
66
      RE: what... like this?
Jun 14th 2007
67
      too good
Jun 14th 2007
69
      RE: what... like this?
Jun 14th 2007
70
      RE: what... like this?
Jun 15th 2007
73
      thank you sir
Jun 16th 2007
77
      got heat?
Jun 22nd 2007
80
      good.looking.out
Jun 24th 2007
83
      just like that! oh:
Jun 24th 2007
84
      I've been coming here a long time but...
Jun 24th 2007
85
      dude its not that hard
Jun 24th 2007
86
      I'm embarrased it took me this long to figure it out
Jun 24th 2007
87
RE: Mos Def was on another level tonight...
Jun 15th 2007
75
This is why I miss being up north
Jun 17th 2007
78

Black N Proud
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1. "maaaan, i know that show was good!"
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i can't wait to see Mos when he comes here to Richmond, in June!

  

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Playa_Politician
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15. "Richmond, CA?"
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Mon May-28-07 03:08 AM by Playa_Politician

  

          

Thats my home town, when in june? I'll be there for damn sure

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lovelyone80
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18. "Nah fam, Richmond Virginia."
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29. "RE: maaaan, i know that show was good!"
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YEZ!!!! You and me both! I've been grinnin for the past month after I found out he was comin! Yeah....I'm going to get it together before Friday cause as every day gets closer to June 8th....my cheeks hurt a little bit more from smilin all damn day!


as always...keepin' it too real
PEACE,
-blumagk

  

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2. "TOLD Y'ALL!"
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Ge-Ology was in the house as well. This went toe-to-toe with the BAM show, and those two can hang tough with the best. Mos is built for this, PEACE.

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Anfernee
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3. "That sounds tight."
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I saw him last year on my birthday with Shadow (not together, but oh well) and he was pretty dope.

Who was in the band? Not Black Jack Johnson, I presume?

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rhymesandammo
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4. "RE: That sounds tight."
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>I saw him last year on my birthday with Shadow (not together,
>but oh well) and he was pretty dope.
>
>Who was in the band? Not Black Jack Johnson, I presume?

I know Robert Glasper was on piano, and he killed it.

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HighVoltage
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5. "the band was..."
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>Who was in the band? Not Black Jack Johnson, I presume?

Robert Glasper (Keys)
Derrick Hodge (Bass)
Charles Haynes (Drums)
Casey Benjamin (Sax/Flute)
Corey King (Trombone)
Christian Scott (Trumpet)
Chris ______ (Guitar)

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6. "Anybody recorded the show?"
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Sun May-27-07 03:47 AM by High Chief

  

          

Say Yes!

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HighVoltage
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71. "no."
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8. "Is Charles related to Roy Haynes?"
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the great jazz legend?

  

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HighVoltage
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9. "im not sure, but Charles was killin it all night"
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Sun May-27-07 06:50 PM by HighVoltage

  

          

i mean, all of them are very talented musicians, but he definitely stood out imo.

I believe he is also currently drumming for Meshell.

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42. "The presence of ...."
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Christian Scott Alone puts this show above the BAM show and I was not even there. Although K'Naan opening for Mos @ BAM was RI-Diculous (yeah is said it like that). Mos is definitely moving in some high power musical circles these days. I am proud
>
>>Who was in the band? Not Black Jack Johnson, I presume?
>
>Robert Glasper (Keys)
>Derrick Hodge (Bass)
>Charles Haynes (Drums)
>Casey Benjamin (Sax/Flute)
>Corey King (Trombone)
>Christian Scott (Trumpet)
>Chris ______ (Guitar)


Strongest Closer in the Game!

"The Weak Survive & The Strong Evolve!"

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7. ""
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16. ""
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mi tambien...shit like that rarely happens out here...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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10. "Are these cats touring?"
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will they all be in Richmond for Mos's show?

  

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11. "for real."
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im there if they come to north cali.

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12. "bout time.."
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last year when i saw him at rock the bells, dude was a dissapointment. Kind of makes u look at an artist in a different light when you see them live and they weren't what you expected. Hope he keeps it up like that. I feel rappers should tour with bands it just gives their sound a whole different vibe. That's why ya gotta love the roots!!

  

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13. "nope"
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he's done a lot of shows this year and only 3 have been with bands... all in NYC.

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14. "wow"
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Mon May-28-07 12:55 AM by emeng

  

          

>Hearing blackstar do thieves in the night with a live band was
>worth the hefty price tag alone.

this is one of the few things that would bring me out to catch a show these days. all the times i've seen those two and i've never heard this song live before.

just wow. i'm jealous. did they say anything interesting in introducing the song?

  

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howisya
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17. "did you tape it?"
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sounds like a great show indeed.
what did Q-Tip perform?

  

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19. "RE: Mos Def was on another level tonight..."
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I can't wait til he comes out here next Friday! I'm definitely gonna be at the spot....Mos is THAT dude.

One Love,
Charlena

  

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37. "what up richmond!?"
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not too many of us around here, gotta say what up. . . i'll be at that show too

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Than to divide the spoil with the proud.
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HighVoltage
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20. "It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so "R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise




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21. "i dno what rwq is but id love to see this..inbox if it pops up"
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HighVoltage
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22. "RE: i dno what rwq is but id love to see this..inbox if it pops up"
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lol, i tried to be sneaky.

reply w/quote to post #20.

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23. "RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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>looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so
>"R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise
>
>>from the show, with a a little Pharcyde mixed in
>>
>
>
>


N/M

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somebody told me that this planet was small...

  

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24. "RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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>looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so
>"R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise
>
>>from the show, with a a little Pharcyde mixed in
>>
>
>
>

@silentintellect

  

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HighVoltage
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25. "*WHOOOSH*"
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Sat Jun-02-07 12:53 PM by HighVoltage

  

          

i guess the hidden link thing went way over everyones head based on the download count.

so fuck it.

here it is-

zshare.net/audio/2100091637a45f/

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26. "RE: *WHOOOSH*"
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You're the man!

I saw Mos Def at the Brooklyn Academy of Music back in February and I've been fiending to hear this ever since.

  

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Anfernee
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27. "Oh shit, this is tight!"
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Mad props for the link.

You got any more gems, man?

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28. "RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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Mon Jun-04-07 10:19 AM by excaluber

          

>looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so
>"R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise
>
>>from the show, with a a little Pharcyde mixed in
>>
>
>
>

impressive, nicely done. How do you even go about hiding it like that?



"Yo, with the quickness, so swift you miss this lyrical fitness. Now get this, these emcees wanna test me like litmus, bear witness."

  

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31. "nice."
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Mon Jun-04-07 10:14 PM by spirit

  

          

>looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so
>"R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise
>
>>from the show, with a a little Pharcyde mixed in
>>
>
>
>


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33. "RWQ"
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>looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so
>"R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise
>
>>from the show, with a a little Pharcyde mixed in
>>
>
>
>


*anticipates anxiously*

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38. "RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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>looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so
>"R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise
>
>>from the show, with a a little Pharcyde mixed in
>>
>
>
>
son...
holler at me

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46. "RWQ"
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thanks in advance for the generosity.

"illusions of oasis making you look twice"

peace.

one.

  

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57. "RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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20. "It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so "R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise

Hiding like thieves in the night from life

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61. "RE: It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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Mos is the man!

>looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so
>"R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise
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>>from the show, with a a little Pharcyde mixed in
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76. "I wish I had read this before..."
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because I really thought I had some new shit.

  

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30. "His new flick Be Kind Rewind"
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w/Jack Black looks interesting...

~You only know what you see. You don't understand what it takes to be me~

~Don't let other people's expectations of you determine your choices~

  

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32. "uh, and another one (c) biggie"
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Y'all know them stakes is high....










(reply with quote)

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34. "Holy shit!"
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That was ridiculous.

Thanks, dude.

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35. "RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie"
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awesome thanks alot i live for music like this...

thnx *1000 times





u got some more?

  

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36. "RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie"
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please hook me up

gracias!


"Fuck gettin money, for real, get freedom"-Black Thought

"I already peeped your verse before you said it, I scan the wack shit with the power of telekinetics"-Pharoah Monch

Keep it extra gully

  

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39. "RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie"
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>Y'all know them stakes is high....
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me too...

Xbox Live gamertag: ILLPOOFLINGER

  

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40. "RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie"
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>Y'all know them stakes is high....
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So not to be greedy but how do we go about getting the whole show

  

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47. "RWQ"
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thanks again.

"keep hiding....."

peace.

one.

  

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58. "RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie"
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all know them stakes is high....
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me too...
yup

  

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59. "RE: uh, and another one (c) biggie"
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thanks a lot, hopefully the whole show surfaces, ...

  

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68. "thanks!"
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keep em coming!

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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74. "RE: Thanks !"
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Mos is Definitely doing a wonderful job covering and re-inventing the classics ! First "Poison" now this ! It's so refreshingly new yet it's old and full of memories ! It's only right it was Mos that did it !

Pharaoh's Terrordome is the shit too !

  

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41. "I'm tired of seeing Mos Def with a band..."
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I want to see a DJ on some blackstar shit.

  

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44. "1. you're crazy"
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2. you act like he tours with a band all the time.... black jack johnson stopped touring around 2002. hes done maybe 5-6 shows with a band since then.... and hes not touring with a band now, only special occasions.

but i think everyone would MUCH rather see him with a band than a DJ, except for you of course.

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51. "you are misinformed man."
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I've seen probably 2 or 3 shows with BBJ, and maybe 3 since 2003. Every single time I saw Mos Def He had a band with him.

  

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43. "BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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you know the routine-

reply with quote for a DOPE treat.





Hiding Like Thieves In The Night From Life.....



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45. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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>you know the routine-
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oh shit....i think you've just passed M2 as my favorite poster.

Big thanks for this


"Yo, with the quickness, so swift you miss this lyrical fitness. Now get this, these emcees wanna test me like litmus, bear witness."

  

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48. "RWQ"
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and again (thanks).....

"give me the fortune -- kep the fame"

peace.

one.

  

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49. "so many thanks for this"
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here's a link i just found to read while listening

http://derekbermel.blogspot.com/2006/12/mos-def-and-talib-kweli-rhythmic.html

Craig and Wendy busted my chops for not posting in a while, so this one is for them.

Mos Def and Talib Kweli are from Brooklyn; the streets they mention on their tracks are just blocks away from where I live. Its a happy coincidence that one of my favorite albums is their Blackstar (1999). I especially appreciate the technical and lyrical features of the tunes: ingenious rhythmic variation, vocal gymnastics and modulation, extended jazzy riffs that draw out the length of the cadences, thwarting of expectation at line ends.

Of all the rhymes, I find Thieves in the Night ridiculously compelling. I've listened to it hundreds of times. Even in the first few lines of the opening verse, it is clear that Kweli is evoking the enjambment and multi-syllabic rhymes characteristic of virtuosic wordsmiths such as Rakim and Chuck D:

Give me the fortune, keep the fame, said my man Louis; I
agreed, know what he mean, because we live the truest lie.
I asked him why we follow the law of the bluest eye
He looked at me, he thought about it,
was like, Im clueless; why?
The question was rhetorical; the answer is horrible.
Our morals are out of place and got our lives full of sorrow
and so tomorrow coming later than usual,
waiting on someone to pity us
while we finding beauty in the hideous.

The hypnotic refrain uses as its point of departure a quote from the final page of Toni Morrisons novel The Bluest Eye:

we were not strong, only aggressive; we were not free, merely licensed; we were not passionate, we were polite; not good, but well behaved. We courted death in order to call ourselves brave, and hid like thieves from life.

Mos Def and Kweli paraphrase the Morrison quote, trading off lines (Kwelis words are in italics):

Not strong, only aggressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not compassionate, only polite
Now who the nicest
Not good, but well-behaved
Chasing after death
So we can call ourselves brave
Still living like mental slaves
Hiding like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis making you look twice

(The last two lines are sung by both).

A quick time machine trip: back in the day (Three Feet High and Rising) De La Soul dropped unorthodox rhymes like Three is the Magic Number. Mase often begins a line with the final word (or even a flipped phrase) from the previous line:

Difficult preaching is Posdnuos' pleasure
Pleasure and preaching starts in the heart
Something that stimulates the music in my measure
Measure in my music, raised in three parts

Later on, Pos continues:

Focus is formed by flaunts to the soul
Souls who flaunt styles gain praises by pounds
Common are speakers who are never scrolls
Scrolls written daily creates a new sound

By echoing the last word of a line at the outset of the following phrase, Mase imparts a distinct quirkiness to the rhythmic flow. Back to the future: Mos Def recalls De La's quiet revolution, adding his own special twist. He initiates phrase after phrase using the same technique, but instead of an echo he manufactures a rhyme from the previous line (shown below in italics).

Most cats in my area be loving the hysteria
Synthesized surface conceals the interior
America, land of opportunity, mirages, and camouflages
More than usually; speaking loudly, saying nothing
You confusing me, you losing me, your game is twisted
Want me enlisted in your usary
Foolishly, most me join the ranks cluelessly
Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the looking glass
Walking the street, wondering who they be looking past
Looking gassed with them imported designer shades on
Stars shine bright but the light rarely stays on
Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
Put you on a yacht but they wont call it a slave ship
Strangeness, you dont control this, you barely hold this
Screaming brand new when they just sanitized the old shit
Suppose its just another clever jedi mind trick
That they been running across stars through all the time with
I find its distressing; theres never no in-between
We either niggaz or kings, we either bitches or queens
The daily ritual seems immersed in the perverse
Full of short attention plans, short tempers, and short skirts
Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
The length of black life is treated with short worth
Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary
That type of illing that be filling up the cemetery

...and so on. Then Mos Def tops it off with a mind-bending second chorus, illuminating a new species of rhythmic variation: an internally generated rhyme, one that expands from within. Even the most intricate of Rakims rhymes are embellished externally; they don't undergo such nascent development. Below, the original lines of the first chorus (the original, loosely quoted Morrison passage) are shown in regular type and the internally developed exegeses in italics:

Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power aint directed
Thats why we are subjected to the will of the oppressor
Not free, we only licensed, not live, we just exciting
Cause the captors own the masters to what we writing
Not compassionate, only polite; we well trained
Our sincerity is rehearsed and the stage is just a game
Not good, but well-behaved, cause the camera survey
Most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasing after death just to call ourselves brave
But every day next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
Im trying to live life in the sight of Gods memory
Like that yall

Also, notice the manifold internal rhymes, including the mirror scheme in the first two verses quoted above: ABBA (no Swedish pun intended). You have to hear this poetry in motion to believe it; the page cant do it justice.

Nerdy digression (beware!): Messiaens concept of non-retrogradable rhythms (outlined in his Technique de mon langage musical) is another example of rhythmic cells expanding from the inside out. The process probably arrived at through his study of birdsong or via his odd brew of faith and numerology often applies to smaller phrases. But Messiaen does employ it in larger sections; for example in the Vingt regards sur lenfant Jsus (the piece, incidentally, which inspired me to begin composing) themes undergo internal augmentation, stretched across ever-lengthening time values as musical material is inserted.

Id bet that close analysis of Cecil Taylors or Eric Dolphy's compositions and improvisations would yield similar internal motivic development. And these types of structures have elements in common with Theme and Variations form (e.g. Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Schumann). But Blackstar achieve their variation with words, revealing layers of meaning that set their accomplishment apart from purely instrumental works. Their particular brand of rhythmic surgery slicing open the chorus and expanding it from within is a novel architectural model for rap music, perhaps for any song form.

Do such innovations have wider implications for composers and creators? Yesterday I was discussing this rhyme with my buddy G-Spot out in L.A., and he made an astute observation: The structure reinforces the message. Its true; the circular and internal aspects of the development so clearly evoke the cycle of despair and the patterns of behavior that Mos Def and Kweli strive to elucidate in the song. Any breaking of conventional barriers can encourage artists of all stripes consciously or unconsciously to forge beyond the familiar. Blackstar made only one album, but in doing so they upped the ante immeasurably; for that I shall always be grateful.

  

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50. "that was a great read"
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also my favorite blackstar song.
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52. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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>you know the routine-
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>reply with quote for a DOPE treat.
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54. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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>you know the routine-
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>reply with quote for a DOPE treat.
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________________________________________________________

It is better to be humble in spirit with the lowly
Than to divide the spoil with the proud.
Proverbs 16:19

  

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60. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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on point

  

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62. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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>you know the routine-
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We're all equal, but I'm more equal than you.

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I don't take it personal, I take it seriously
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rahzelrootsreunite
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64. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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ill son media, true warrior records...
nice

  

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72. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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>you know the routine-
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thanks.

  

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79. "appreciate the love..."
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know I'm running late, but still

>you know the routine-
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~~~~~
its easy to just be yourself, what's hard is being the you that is gonna get you where you wanna be

-me

  

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81. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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please mister hv!
maybe you can shine some light on a late bum!

If nothing else i leave the world with songs that speak from the soul

  

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82. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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word, thanks

  

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88. "RE: BLACKSTAR shine bright...."
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>you know the routine-
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Thanks a lot!

  

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53. "RE: Mos Def was on another level tonight..."
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Im jealous.

I sometimes wonder if I should continue supporting this bigot Mos Def. His music is too good though. Im glad to hear hes doing it well live...I should see him live to see if ill continue supporting his ass.

  

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55. "why you callin' him a bigot?"
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just curious

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It is better to be humble in spirit with the lowly
Than to divide the spoil with the proud.
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56. "I guess it's kinda wrong"
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that I've seen Kweli in concert but not Mos yet...

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HEY KIDS, (BUY MY) COMICS!! https://www.mythworldemedia.com/store

  

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63. "yo HV i know you got more tracks"
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spread the wealth, sharing is caring, let's make a deal, and all that



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65. "what... like this?"
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RWQTSTL (c) treb

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www.itsallthewaylive.net

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66. "yesssssss! (m. albert)"
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muchas gracias!

the more i hear of this show the more disappointed i am to have missed it.

thanks again for the generosity, hv.

peace.

one.

  

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67. "RE: what... like this?"
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man thanks again for the blessing

i would love to have the whole show


  

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69. "too good"
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first de la now stevie. my fav acts. please keep em coming!

''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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rahzelrootsreunite
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70. "RE: what... like this?"
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thanks

  

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funshine
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73. "RE: what... like this?"
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>RWQTSTL (c) treb
>
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thanks

  

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bigLi
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77. "thank you sir"
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>RWQTSTL (c) treb
>

always on point... any more are welcome.


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All you guys can do is play video games and watch porn movies. (c) Phil Jackson

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80. "got heat?"
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>RWQTSTL (c) treb
>
>>

~~~~~
its easy to just be yourself, what's hard is being the you that is gonna get you where you wanna be

-me

  

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Vid Santoro
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83. "good.looking.out"
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must of been a hellofa show

  

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kase
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84. "just like that! oh:"
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you hook me up, too?

thanks.

  

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85. "I've been coming here a long time but..."
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i can't find the link in your reply HV.


Can someone inbox me some more tunes from that Mos Def show??

pppllleeeaaasssseee??!?!??!

  

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HighVoltage
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86. "dude its not that hard"
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hit "reply with quote" and look at your screen.

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87. "I'm embarrased it took me this long to figure it out"
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thanks dogg

  

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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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75. "RE: Mos Def was on another level tonight..."
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I haven't been in this forum in months. Great googly moogly did I pick the right time to peruse Okayartist

all thanks go to HighVoltage, you are the man

Avy: Tyrion disrespects King Joffrey yet again

"If your life consists of NO drankin, NO drugs, NO loose booty, NO fatty foods, NO additives, NO preservatives, AND no waings.......then what the fuck you wanna live so long for, boring ass n****?" - Tay

  

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78. "This is why I miss being up north"
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