HighLine ballroom was the place to be tonight in NYC.

Mos def. Q tip. Kweli. Aaand a live band.

Sheeeeiit.

Amazing.

I also discovered that black thought has some serious competition as far as breath control is concerned because mos def was absolutely flawless on the mic.

Hearing blackstar do thieves in the night with a live band was worth the hefty price tag alone.

Any other okps in attendance for this one?

i can't wait to see Mos when he comes here to Richmond, in June!

Thats my home town, when in june? I'll be there for damn sure

YEZ!!!! You and me both! I've been grinnin for the past month after I found out he was comin! Yeah....I'm going to get it together before Friday cause as every day gets closer to June 8th....my cheeks hurt a little bit more from smilin all damn day! :)


as always...keepin' it too real
PEACE,
-blumagk

Ge-Ology was in the house as well. This went toe-to-toe with the BAM show, and those two can hang tough with the best. Mos is built for this, PEACE.

I saw him last year on my birthday with Shadow (not together, but oh well) and he was pretty dope.

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Robert Glasper (Keys)
Derrick Hodge (Bass)
Charles Haynes (Drums)
Casey Benjamin (Sax/Flute)
Corey King (Trombone)
Christian Scott (Trumpet)
Chris ______ (Guitar)

Say Yes!

the great jazz legend?

i mean, all of them are very talented musicians, but he definitely stood out imo.

I believe he is also currently drumming for Meshell.

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Strongest Closer in the Game!

"The Weak Survive & The Strong Evolve!"

www.myspace.com/DreadPiraTey

mi tambien...shit like that rarely happens out here...

will they all be in Richmond for Mos's show?

im there if they come to north cali.

last year when i saw him at rock the bells, dude was a dissapointment. Kind of makes u look at an artist in a different light when you see them live and they weren't what you expected. Hope he keeps it up like that. I feel rappers should tour with bands it just gives their sound a whole different vibe. That's why ya gotta love the roots!!

he's done a lot of shows this year and only 3 have been with bands... all in NYC.

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this is one of the few things that would bring me out to catch a show these days. all the times i've seen those two and i've never heard this song live before.

just wow. i'm jealous. did they say anything interesting in introducing the song?

sounds like a great show indeed.
what did Q-Tip perform?

I can't wait til he comes out here next Friday! I'm definitely gonna be at the spot....Mos is THAT dude.

not too many of us around here, gotta say what up. . . i'll be at that show too

looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so "R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise

lol, i tried to be sneaky.

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i guess the hidden link thing went way over everyones head based on the download count.

so fuck it.

here it is-

zshare.net/audio/2100091637a45f/

You're the man!

I saw Mos Def at the Brooklyn Academy of Music back in February and I've been fiending to hear this ever since.

Mad props for the link.

You got any more gems, man?

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"Yo, with the quickness, so swift you miss this lyrical fitness. Now get this, these emcees wanna test me like litmus, bear witness."

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*anticipates anxiously*

http://www.myspace.com/k_o_s_determination

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holler at me

thanks in advance for the generosity.

"illusions of oasis making you look twice"

peace.

one.

20. "It's driving me out of my miiiiind"
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looks like there is a lot of interest in this show, so "R.W.Q." to this thread for a nice surprise

Hiding like thieves in the night from life

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Mos is the man!

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because I really thought I had some new shit.

w/Jack Black looks interesting...

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That was ridiculous.

Thanks, dude.

awesome thanks alot i live for music like this...

thnx *1000 times





u got some more?

please hook me up

gracias!


"Fuck gettin money, for real, get freedom"-Black Thought

"I already peeped your verse before you said it, I scan the wack shit with the power of telekinetics"-Pharoah Monch

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thanks again.

"keep hiding....."

peace.

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thanks a lot, hopefully the whole show surfaces, ...

keep em coming!

Mos is Definitely doing a wonderful job covering and re-inventing the classics ! First "Poison" now this ! It's so refreshingly new yet it's old and full of memories ! It's only right it was Mos that did it !

Pharaoh's Terrordome is the shit too !

I want to see a DJ on some blackstar shit.

2. you act like he tours with a band all the time.... black jack johnson stopped touring around 2002. hes done maybe 5-6 shows with a band since then.... and hes not touring with a band now, only special occasions.

but i think everyone would MUCH rather see him with a band than a DJ, except for you of course.

I've seen probably 2 or 3 shows with BBJ, and maybe 3 since 2003. Every single time I saw Mos Def He had a band with him.

you know the routine-

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Hiding Like Thieves In The Night From Life.....

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oh shit....i think you've just passed M2 as my favorite poster.

Big thanks for this


"Yo, with the quickness, so swift you miss this lyrical fitness. Now get this, these emcees wanna test me like litmus, bear witness."

and again (thanks).....

"give me the fortune -- kep the fame"

peace.

one.

here's a link i just found to read while listening

http://derekbermel.blogspot.com/2006/12/mos-def-and-talib-kweli-rhythmic.html

Craig and Wendy busted my chops for not posting in a while, so this one is for them.

Mos Def and Talib Kweli are from Brooklyn; the streets they mention on their tracks are just blocks away from where I live. It’s a happy coincidence that one of my favorite albums is their Blackstar (1999). I especially appreciate the technical and lyrical features of the tunes: ingenious rhythmic variation, vocal gymnastics and modulation, extended jazzy riffs that draw out the length of the cadences, thwarting of expectation at line ends.

Of all the rhymes, I find Thieves in the Night ridiculously compelling. I've listened to it hundreds of times. Even in the first few lines of the opening verse, it is clear that Kweli is evoking the enjambment and multi-syllabic rhymes characteristic of virtuosic wordsmiths such as Rakim and Chuck D:

‘Give me the fortune, keep the fame,’ said my man Louis; I
agreed, know what he mean, because we live the truest lie.
I asked him why we follow the law of the bluest eye
He looked at me, he thought about it,
was like, ‘I’m clueless; why?’
The question was rhetorical; the answer is horrible.
Our morals are out of place and got our lives full of sorrow
and so tomorrow coming later than usual,
waiting on someone to pity us
while we finding beauty in the hideous.

The hypnotic refrain uses as its point of departure a quote from the final page of Toni Morrison’s novel The Bluest Eye:

“…we were not strong, only aggressive; we were not free, merely licensed; we were not passionate, we were polite; not good, but well behaved. We courted death in order to call ourselves brave, and hid like thieves from life.”

Mos Def and Kweli paraphrase the Morrison quote, trading off lines (Kweli’s words are in italics):

Not strong, only aggressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not compassionate, only polite
Now who the nicest
Not good, but well-behaved
Chasing after death
So we can call ourselves brave
Still living like mental slaves
Hiding like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis making you look twice

(The last two lines are sung by both).

A quick time machine trip: back in the day (Three Feet High and Rising) De La Soul dropped unorthodox rhymes like Three is the Magic Number. Mase often begins a line with the final word (or even a flipped phrase) from the previous line:

Difficult preaching is Posdnuos' pleasure
Pleasure and preaching starts in the heart
Something that stimulates the music in my measure
Measure in my music, raised in three parts

Later on, Pos continues:

Focus is formed by flaunts to the soul
Souls who flaunt styles gain praises by pounds
Common are speakers who are never scrolls
Scrolls written daily creates a new sound

By echoing the last word of a line at the outset of the following phrase, Mase imparts a distinct quirkiness to the rhythmic flow. Back to the future: Mos Def recalls De La's quiet revolution, adding his own special twist. He initiates phrase after phrase using the same technique, but instead of an echo he manufactures a rhyme from the previous line (shown below in italics).

Most cats in my area be loving the hysteria
Synthesized surface conceals the interior
America, land of opportunity, mirages, and camouflages
More than usually; speaking loudly, saying nothing
You confusing me, you losing me, your game is twisted
Want me enlisted in your usary
Foolishly, most me join the ranks cluelessly
Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the looking glass
Walking the street, wondering who they be looking past
Looking gassed with them imported designer shades on
Stars shine bright but the light rarely stays on
Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
Put you on a yacht but they won’t call it a slave ship
Strangeness, you don’t control this, you barely hold this
Screaming brand new when they just sanitized the old shit
Suppose it’s just another clever jedi mind trick
That they been running across stars through all the time with
I find it’s distressing; there’s never no in-between
We either niggaz or kings, we either bitches or queens
The daily ritual seems immersed in the perverse
Full of short attention plans, short tempers, and short skirts
Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
The length of black life is treated with short worth
Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary
That type of illing that be filling up the cemetery

...and so on. Then Mos Def tops it off with a mind-bending second chorus, illuminating a new species of rhythmic variation: an internally generated rhyme, one that expands from within. Even the most intricate of Rakim’s rhymes are embellished externally; they don't undergo such nascent development. Below, the original lines of the first chorus (the original, loosely quoted Morrison passage) are shown in regular type and the internally developed exegeses in italics:

Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain’t directed
That’s why we are subjected to the will of the oppressor
Not free, we only licensed, not live, we just exciting
Cause the captors own the masters to what we writing
Not compassionate, only polite; we well trained
Our sincerity is rehearsed and the stage is just a game
Not good, but well-behaved, cause the camera survey
Most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasing after death just to call ourselves brave
But every day next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
I’m trying to live life in the sight of God’s memory
Like that y’all

Also, notice the manifold internal rhymes, including the mirror scheme in the first two verses quoted above: ABBA (no Swedish pun intended). You have to hear this poetry in motion to believe it; the page can’t do it justice.

Nerdy digression (beware!): Messiaen’s concept of non-retrogradable rhythms (outlined in his Technique de mon langage musical) is another example of rhythmic cells expanding from the inside out. The process – probably arrived at through his study of birdsong or via his odd brew of faith and numerology – often applies to smaller phrases. But Messiaen does employ it in larger sections; for example in the Vingt regards sur l’enfant Jésus (the piece, incidentally, which inspired me to begin composing) themes undergo internal augmentation, stretched across ever-lengthening time values as musical material is inserted.

I’d bet that close analysis of Cecil Taylor’s or Eric Dolphy's compositions and improvisations would yield similar internal motivic development. And these types of structures have elements in common with Theme and Variations form (e.g. Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Schumann…). But Blackstar achieve their variation with words, revealing layers of meaning that set their accomplishment apart from purely instrumental works. Their particular brand of rhythmic surgery – slicing open the chorus and expanding it from within – is a novel architectural model for rap music, perhaps for any song form.

Do such innovations have wider implications for composers and creators? Yesterday I was discussing this rhyme with my buddy G-Spot out in L.A., and he made an astute observation: “The structure reinforces the message.” It’s true; the circular and internal aspects of the development so clearly evoke the cycle of despair and the patterns of behavior that Mos Def and Kweli strive to elucidate in the song. Any breaking of conventional barriers can encourage artists of all stripes – consciously or unconsciously – to forge beyond the familiar. Blackstar made only one album, but in doing so they upped the ante immeasurably; for that I shall always be grateful.

also my favorite blackstar song.
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ill son media, true warrior records...
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know I'm running late, but still

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please mister hv!
maybe you can shine some light on a late bum!

word, thanks

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Im jealous.

I sometimes wonder if I should continue supporting this bigot Mos Def. His music is too good though. Im glad to hear hes doing it well live...I should see him live to see if ill continue supporting his ass.

just curious

that I've seen Kweli in concert but not Mos yet...

spread the wealth, sharing is caring, let's make a deal, and all that



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All you guys can do is play video games and watch porn movies. (c) Phil Jackson

http://www.myspace.com/djlino

RWQTSTL (c) treb

muchas gracias!

the more i hear of this show the more disappointed i am to have missed it.

thanks again for the generosity, hv.

peace.

one.

man thanks again for the blessing

i would love to have the whole show

first de la now stevie. my fav acts. please keep em coming!

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must of been a hellofa show

you hook me up, too?

thanks.

i can't find the link in your reply HV.


Can someone inbox me some more tunes from that Mos Def show??

pppllleeeaaasssseee??!?!??!

hit "reply with quote" and look at your screen.

thanks dogg

I haven't been in this forum in months. Great googly moogly did I pick the right time to peruse Okayartist

all thanks go to HighVoltage, you are the man