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We realized you can't excellence yourself out of bullet holes in a traff... |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 1
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 I mean you saying you know more about 'struggle' than... |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 4
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  Oh, honey...stop. If you're going to argue using logical fallacies |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 6
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 It's not a trick question. No logic games.It's a pretty simple question... |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 8
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 It is a logical fallacy in it most basic and classic sense |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 10
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 hey look! SOUND LOGIC! *golf claps* |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 14
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 She is basically saying if it proves her wrong, it must be a fallacy. SM... |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 18
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 No, I'm saying its a junior debate team tactic |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 27
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 agreed. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 28
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 It's absolutely the substance of what we are talking about. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 36
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 you're making this about Sarah. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 38
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  Sarah made it about herself when she said "We realized..." |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 40
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 rhetorical device. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 42
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  Y'all should better coordinate your responses |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 52
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 we can keep doing this |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 69
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 Yes, I speak on race and racism with authority. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 43
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 I don't think he expected any reasonable disagreement in this post. Lol |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 44
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  Right... Not even a little bit. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 46
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  Her post was exactly what I was expecting though |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 55
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 Topic: the color orange |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 67
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 This analogy is silly and not on point. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 95
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 wait... what makes you think oprah knows more about this topic? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 101
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 I think Oprah probably knows more about the topic because |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 108
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 Oh No! Please don't add to me to your list!!!! |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 53
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 wow. you kept replying!?!! |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 129
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 "Excellence" could eventually lead to communities where we control... |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 5
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  Yes, it could mean that but in this case it doesn't |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 7
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   In what "case?" I thought we we discussing a *concept* |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 12
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    The concept that black excellence will set black folks free |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 23
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   You don't see the advantage in excelling in education? Finance? |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 26
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   Yes, I want that but all of those things don't stop racism or sexism |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 32
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   the revolution has to make room for 'dumb folks'. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 35
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   ...whut? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 78
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   Right!!!!! Everybody is allowed to just be except us |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 71
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    Untrue-- poor white folks and a host of other groups |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 82
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   ok player. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 91
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   Oops n/m didn't read the OP well enough. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 80
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  i prefer summer fruit. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 34
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 Overall her life>>>>getting fair treatment at a damn hat store |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 68
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 reminds me of the conversation TNC had with Prince Jones' mother |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 128
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I still believe this |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 2
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No it's just the truth. And although unfair-- beneficial. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 3
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 Not a deterrant. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 86
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there's no downside to promoting excellence. just know that |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 9
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being excellent might work. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 11
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 ^^^^^^ |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 15
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 As you rightfully point out, she didn't say it will guarantee anything. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 17
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  ...then what is the 'deterrence'? |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 22
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  then what good does it do? |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 49
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 ^^^^^^^^^ |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 85
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i'd agree if racism and sexism were rooted in logic. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 13
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 When will you be able to Open up about her w/o fear of reprisal? |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 16
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  oh, never. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 20
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 LMAO. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 61
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 But she didn't say "excellence is the way to beat them." |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 19
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  break it down for me. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 21
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 "Best Deterrent" is a relative statement. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 29
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 that didn't answer my question. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 30
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 You said "Break it Down". What question did you ask I didn't answer? |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 37
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 best deterrent to racism and sexism. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 39
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 Meaning the world is racist and sexist as fcuk. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 59
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 that's all? |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 70
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 And yet, folks are in here fighting it tooth and nail. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 73
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 What's interesting? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 76
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 Maybe it's more about talent and less about excellence |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 83
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  I think the sentiment meant more when our grandmothers were kids. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 84
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 Why it gotta be Delphi though? I know you've heard of Memphis! |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 87
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 lol...Memphis it is. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 93
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 you really think she got "brand new?" SMH |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 102
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 you are a day late and a dollar short, player. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 104
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GOTDAMN THIS EXISTNCE |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 24
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 i agree. strive. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 25
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 The notion that if we do better we can take over more isn't tho |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 31
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  no that's not off-base |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 33
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 so true |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 50
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 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 72
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Best defense more so than deterrent |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 41
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That doesn't really make sense. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 45
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 RE: That doesn't really make sense. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 48
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 RE: That doesn't really make sense. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 54
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 The mindset doesn't concede your inferiority it acknowledges |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 56
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  I have no problem admitting our parents were wrong... |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 62
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 OK. but what does that look like "demand better." |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 75
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 Yup |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 81
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 RE: That doesn't really make sense. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 58
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 RE: That doesn't really make sense. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 63
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i disagree. i excell so i can tell em, 'fuck em' |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 47
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 What exactly do you disagree with in Oprah's statement? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 97
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 no, she says it deters racism/sexism |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 103
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 "not becuase we think its going to make racists less racists" |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 111
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personal wealth is the best deterrent |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 51
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 ^^^^ |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 57
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 And how prey tell, do you get personal wealth? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 74
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 windfall (inheritance, contest winning, lottery, et al) or earnings. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 79
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  So What does that advice look like Sowhat? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 90
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 what does what? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 98
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 oh i see now. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 107
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 I doubt the two are different or separate goals. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 109
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 no they're not the same. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 110
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 Again, I think you don't get the point with this statement. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 117
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 fine. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 127
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 the same way other successful people do |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 88
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 But how do successful people do it? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 89
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 nowhere in the op did it say geared to kids |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 94
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 Ummm, you should read the quote again. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 100
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The concept of credibility has disappeared. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 60
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 But that's not what's happening here. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 64
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 RE: But that's not what's happening here. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 65
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 I was brought up by older people. |
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Aug 10th 2015 | 66
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 RE: I was brought up by older people. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 77
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 I think we were taught both though. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 92
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 In some cases, we were... |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 121
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 All very good points. Well said. I hope... |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 123
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folks have answered the question, but you dont like the answers |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 96
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 What are you talking about? Starbaby Jones et. al has a great answer |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 99
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Oprah's breasts are huge though |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 105
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 Good huge or sloppy huge? |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 106
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  u b the judge |
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Aug 12th 2015 | 131
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 Oprah's breasts are Black Excellence. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 118
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Here is the thing. I generally hate the advice successful people give. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 112
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 i also think the 'work 2x as hard' mantra is b/s. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 113
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  I didn't need it high school. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 119
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 who u know takes u way farther than how hard you work |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 120
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 that's just doubling down on the bootstraps mentality though |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 115
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 I disagree |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 122
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 There's also resistance to this idea because (I suspect) |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 125
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 I think that's absolutely the case but I wonder what that advice is bein... |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 126
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it's not even a good deterrent to be honest |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 114
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Aug 11th 2015 | 116
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NO ONE successful EVER wants to admit they had a lot of luck |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 124
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People who strive for excellence impress me. |
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Aug 11th 2015 | 130
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