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"Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
Fri Jun-14-13 12:27 PM by fire

          

firedit: do not post a million kanye posts, they will be deleted!!!

A lot of material has been published since the last show, so i figured it was time to make a real thread.

Videos:

New Slaves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6t5heUOaY

On Site
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtGXW3kqdnM

I Am a God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RDdsWm3uRU

Black Skinhead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v0XWYKvkX8

Could Have Been Somebody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TRQ0gWLzEKA

Send it Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uiHA0bXzMrI

Rumored tracklist:

1. Bound (Produced by Kanye West, S1, No ID)
2. New Slaves (Feat. Frank Ocean) (Produced by Hudson Mohawke, Kanye West, Mike Dean, & Co. Travis Scott)
3. I Am A God (Feat. Bon Iver, The Dream) (Produced by Hudson Mohawke, Rick Rubin, Mike Dean, Kanye West)
4. Send It Up (Feat. King L) (Produced by Justice, & Co. Mike Dean)
5. On Site (Produced by Daft Punk, Hudson Mohawke)
6. Can't Handle The Liquor (Feat. Chief Keef) (Produced by Kanye West, Hit-Boy, Young Chop, & Co. Travis Scott)
7. Black Skinhead (Produced by Kanye West, Mike Dean, Rick Rubin, & Co. Jack White, Travis Scott)
8. Throne (Feat. Jay-Z) (Produced by Hudson Mohawke, Daft Punk, & Co. Mike Dean)
9. Awesome/Could Have Been Somebody (Produced by Mike Dean, TNGHT)
10. House of Sin (Produced by Kanye West, S1, & Co. Mike Dean)


Thoughts so far?

  
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Not feeling the industrial, aggressive electro sound
Jun 10th 2013
1
RE: Not feeling the industrial, aggressive electro sound
Jun 10th 2013
2
Me neither
Jun 10th 2013
9
Like the direction, hopefully it flows/sequenced correctly
Jun 10th 2013
3
I Am A God going to be HOT
Jun 10th 2013
14
Gesaffelstein...also a Movement 13 performer lol
Jun 19th 2013
389
not feeling it at all. hopefully the next one's better
Jun 10th 2013
4
I like "On Site" and "I Am A God".
Jun 10th 2013
5
"On Site" is gonna go so fuckin' hard in the speakers.
Jun 10th 2013
66
damn/lol @ kanye relying on a trap producer to carry his albums
Jun 10th 2013
6
its funny...i dont think he can pull off the production he wants nowaday...
Jun 10th 2013
7
      but isn't he pulling it off if he chooses the right voices, sonic qualit...
Jun 10th 2013
25
           no if kanye cant do it all himself IT DONT MATTER.
Jun 10th 2013
27
           lol
Jun 10th 2013
28
           Oh, im firmly in camp A
Jun 10th 2013
29
           here's the thing tho
Jun 10th 2013
32
           you underestimate Kanye then.
Jun 10th 2013
44
                no, you overestimate him
Jun 10th 2013
68
                without YEEZUS' vision the joints wouldnt hit like that
Jun 11th 2013
82
                     ^^^Exhibit F
Jun 11th 2013
89
                     ^^^Paid full price for that Lawless Element CD
Jun 11th 2013
96
                          just listened and everything hits harder than any Kaney LP ever
Jun 11th 2013
107
                          ^^^sends dick pics to Magnif
Jun 11th 2013
108
                               you have no room to talk about anybody doing any dick reception
Jun 11th 2013
109
                                    Grown men who call other grown men Nonny don't either
Jun 11th 2013
110
                                         oh you with this nigga?
Jun 11th 2013
113
                                         By "it", do you mean a nickname like Nonny?
Jun 11th 2013
116
                                         no I mean a dickprint on your prostate gland
Jun 11th 2013
118
                                         You can't call men "Noony" and then pretend to act intimidating.
Jun 11th 2013
120
                                         nigga mad as shit tryna blast cheeks like Zed did Marcellus
Jun 11th 2013
119
                                              Doesn't take much to wind up Grant so much he says weird shit...
Jun 11th 2013
123
                                         add me too..I think you bring the boards down
Jun 11th 2013
129
                                         that Nonny shit is extra wishy washy. Plus he talks about Dick more
Jun 11th 2013
128
                          damn can a nigga lurk in peace
Jun 11th 2013
142
                               LMFAO - i love this place
Jun 12th 2013
148
                               lolllllllllllllll
Jun 12th 2013
166
                               lmao
Jun 14th 2013
192
                               muerte
Jun 14th 2013
230
                     hit like what...this?
Jun 11th 2013
98
                          LULZ
Jun 11th 2013
103
                          whats funny? if it werent true they wouldnt be on the album lol
Jun 12th 2013
147
                               they are capable of successful careers
Jun 12th 2013
152
                                    if he wants to sell records in 2013 he does
Jun 12th 2013
155
                                         i never said this
Jun 12th 2013
156
                                              lol who is mad?
Jun 13th 2013
171
                                                   K
Jun 13th 2013
177
                          you crazy if you don't think Kanye don't humanize TNGHT's
Jun 12th 2013
157
                               I can agree with this
Jun 13th 2013
172
                I'm gonna need some proof here.
Jun 11th 2013
111
                nah, hes right
Jun 12th 2013
144
           ^^^Exhibit D
Jun 10th 2013
62
                you're gonna have to expound, cuz i think you got the wrong
Jun 11th 2013
87
                     I'm with you until the part about
Jun 11th 2013
90
                          hmmm... ok, i def. see where you're at.. and you know, i'm not
Jun 11th 2013
93
                               I can respect that, I take it back chief
Jun 11th 2013
133
For the 1000th time....this dude is just a rapper.
Jun 10th 2013
8
he still a producer
Jun 10th 2013
11
he's a producer that raps
Jun 10th 2013
18
RE: he's a producer that raps
Jun 10th 2013
60
you have no idea what a producer does.
Jun 10th 2013
26
Ya'll were giving this dude's shitty MPC beats too much love.
Jun 10th 2013
30
^^^ PREACH ^^^
Jun 12th 2013
153
i like kanye west
Jun 13th 2013
180
      This is such a ridiculous argument. Is there any hip hop artist
Jun 13th 2013
182
           how is it ridiculous man?
Jun 13th 2013
183
                "(rap artist) isn't a genius, (artists from other genres) are!"
Jun 14th 2013
191
                     When did I say that man?
Jun 14th 2013
210
cmon bro
Jun 10th 2013
37
      RE: cmon bro
Jun 14th 2013
235
           oh ghost production was a talking point last summer for sure
Jun 15th 2013
257
           Name names, big dogg.
Jun 15th 2013
268
                they're MAD invested for some reason lol
Jun 20th 2013
411
I mean, he IS a rapper
Jun 10th 2013
45
^^^ Never heard The Blueprint. nm
Jun 10th 2013
67
LOL...was I supposed to be impressed by his beats on there?
Jun 11th 2013
94
These dude's definitions would have Puffy as a producer
Jun 15th 2013
258
      HE ADDED THE WINDCHIMES AND HAD A VISION.
Jun 15th 2013
269
Seeing Rick Rubin's name in the credits solidifies for me that he's goin...
Jun 10th 2013
10
Here's the story behind Rick Rubin's inclusion (link)
Jun 10th 2013
19
West stay winning. shit sounds hot.
Jun 10th 2013
12
I've always loved how Kanye uses features
Jun 10th 2013
13
Agreed
Jun 10th 2013
52
^^^Exhibit E
Jun 10th 2013
63
really cats already singing lyrics for New Slaves
Jun 10th 2013
15
Kanye is that you?
Jun 10th 2013
23
Not listening to snippets but Daft Punk & Hud Mo=YES. n/m
Jun 10th 2013
16
the choir sample on "On Site"
Jun 10th 2013
17
just read reply 19. awesome!
Jun 10th 2013
21
First Kanye album I've anticipated in a long time.
Jun 10th 2013
20
Cocain was involved in the making of this album
Jun 10th 2013
22
I read that with Rick James voice ...
Jun 10th 2013
73
HEAVILY
Jun 22nd 2013
423
What up Yeezus! Shit bout to be a classic.
Jun 10th 2013
24
^^^Exhibit A
Jun 10th 2013
31
lmao
Jun 10th 2013
54
If its not, will you say it is anyway though?
Jun 10th 2013
47
that's exactly what these niggas is built for, of course he will
Jun 10th 2013
59
i dont have to worry about that.
Jun 11th 2013
134
yup. this is already looking to be better than CD & LR
Jun 10th 2013
51
      No way this shit is better than LR
Jun 10th 2013
55
           it actually is though*
Jun 10th 2013
58
                ^^^Exhibit C
Jun 10th 2013
61
                Forward thinking? Please explain
Jun 10th 2013
65
                name a rapper bold enough to do this.
Jun 11th 2013
81
                     RE: name a rapper bold enough to do this.
Jun 11th 2013
88
                          you are right. no argument there
Jun 11th 2013
91
                               RE: you are right. no argument there
Jun 11th 2013
92
                                    i shoulda typed out MAINSTREAM because thats what i meant
Jun 11th 2013
95
                                         RE: i shoulda typed out MAINSTREAM because thats what i meant
Jun 11th 2013
97
                You heard the album?
Jun 10th 2013
70
                     heard 6 out of 10 just like u. its very promising so far
Jun 11th 2013
80
I for one am feeling the industrial, electro direction
Jun 10th 2013
33
lol he isnt reinventing his sound...he's using other ppls sounds
Jun 10th 2013
34
      don't be daft homie. kanye is a recording artist
Jun 10th 2013
35
      im not talking about his rapping
Jun 10th 2013
36
           please there is no name in that whole tracklist
Jun 10th 2013
38
           i think you are overestimating your peers here
Jun 10th 2013
39
                are you a Kanye "hater"?
Jun 10th 2013
42
                     not at all...he's got 4 albums i think are incredible
Jun 11th 2013
100
                     RE: not at all...he's got 4 albums i think are incredible
Jun 11th 2013
104
                     Lmao... I love this response
Jun 12th 2013
149
           RE: im not talking about his rapping
Jun 10th 2013
40
                we agree but i think Kanye could get whoever he wanted
Jun 10th 2013
41
                agreed
Jun 10th 2013
43
      reinventing HIS sound
Jun 11th 2013
83
Mike Dean on working w/ Kanye + more (22 min interview)
Jun 10th 2013
46
yeesh!
Jun 10th 2013
48
Dude lost his damn mind, he can't be serious with this
Jun 10th 2013
49
there's folks in this post who are quite upset. not sure why.
Jun 10th 2013
50
We've waited 3 years for new Ye and we don't like what we're hearing
Jun 10th 2013
56
^^^Exhibit B
Jun 10th 2013
57
seems like you have to be into raves and edm/mdma to like this shit
Jun 10th 2013
53
seemed like they was bugging out for new slaves
Jun 10th 2013
72
It's familiarity though
Jun 11th 2013
124
Yet another one to not check for!
Jun 10th 2013
64
Thank you for sharing, that post made the convo much better
Jun 10th 2013
69
      Aight OK -
Jun 10th 2013
71
           I feel the same right now...
Jun 10th 2013
74
how is 74 replies & no lp yet? just bad leaks? fuck. lol
Jun 10th 2013
75
i do think it's ridiculous how over-analyzed this album has been
Jun 10th 2013
76
I wish he got El-P, Saul Williams or Trent Reznor for the album
Jun 10th 2013
77
all of em old and washed up
Jun 11th 2013
79
      el-p production on killer mike's album was dope as fuck tho
Jun 11th 2013
84
      RE: el-p production on killer mike's album was dope as fuck tho
Jun 11th 2013
105
           yea folks is being silly ELP was producer of the year last year.
Jun 12th 2013
167
      jesus fucn christ. get Ye's dick out yo mouth fam, lofl
Jun 11th 2013
114
      why y'all non-believers prefacing every post?
Jun 11th 2013
126
           LOFL
Jun 12th 2013
154
                respect.
Jun 12th 2013
161
      Worst reply of the year
Jun 11th 2013
125
      Actually it's some of his BEST production
Jun 11th 2013
130
      i'm just not a fan then. I'll let y'all El-P fans rock tho
Jun 11th 2013
131
      *bumps rap music and C4C in this post*
Jun 11th 2013
141
      Did you really just say that?
Jun 12th 2013
165
Hearing Black Skinhead live yesterday was some dope shit
Jun 10th 2013
78
RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion]
Jun 11th 2013
85
Kanye West, 'Yeezus', Track-By-Track First Listen
Jun 11th 2013
86
People are mad about an album they haven't even heard...
Jun 11th 2013
99
RE: People are calling it a classic and they haven't even heard it
Jun 11th 2013
101
Yeah, but it's more pathetic when people who hate Kanye
Jun 11th 2013
102
Everybody does that though.
Jun 11th 2013
106
10 tracks = classic track list
Jun 11th 2013
112
Ye, Lupe, Talib, Nas and Jay bring...
Jun 11th 2013
117
      yeah. new ye really brings the SISSY up out of niggas
Jun 11th 2013
138
I'm a huge Kanye fan...
Jun 11th 2013
115
Real talk.
Jun 11th 2013
122
i was about to say the same thing
Jun 11th 2013
127
s'all I'm saying
Jun 11th 2013
132
coke is really something else
Jun 11th 2013
121
Kanye talks to the NYT about his career and Yeezus (swipe)
Jun 11th 2013
135
ye been doing some reading
Jun 11th 2013
136
Jun 11th 2013
139
Those that are loving this Ye album, have you heard the Niggy Tardust LP...
Jun 11th 2013
137
RE: Those that are loving this Ye album, have you heard the Niggy Tardus...
Jun 11th 2013
140
good look, gunna check this out
Jun 12th 2013
143
I love that album
Jun 12th 2013
145
Solid but bloated.
Jun 12th 2013
150
RE: Solid but bloated.
Jun 12th 2013
151
when I say Niggy, you say nothin........ Niggy!......Nothin!
Jun 13th 2013
169
sonically it sounds insane loud
Jun 12th 2013
146
RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion]
Jun 12th 2013
158
I see U....
Jun 12th 2013
159
good stuff Fire!
Jun 12th 2013
160
Get 'em girl
Jun 12th 2013
162
Only complaint is...
Jun 12th 2013
168
this whole article is bullshit and a half
Jun 13th 2013
170
my eyes just rolled so hard I can see my brain
Jun 13th 2013
173
LOL @ the breakdown of "New Slaves"
Jun 17th 2013
312
RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion]
Jun 21st 2013
417
Jun 12th 2013
163
Nice
Jun 13th 2013
175
confirmed tracklist? (via 2dopeboyz)
Jun 12th 2013
164
I keep checking this thread to see if it leaked yet
Jun 13th 2013
174
RE: I keep checking this thread to see if it leaked yet
Jun 13th 2013
178
i am god
Jun 13th 2013
176
How has this not leaked yet?
Jun 13th 2013
179
may treat it like WWT
Jun 13th 2013
181
it should leak tonight or tomorrow. people already got it.
Jun 13th 2013
185
      Im thinking they put up a stream for some critics...
Jun 13th 2013
187
           yea like is he overnighting the delievry?
Jun 14th 2013
188
                I thought Itunes was the 18th, physical after
Jun 14th 2013
189
                     That's how they did Throne
Jun 14th 2013
190
A list of the samples used, straight from the sticker on the case
Jun 13th 2013
184
In case that sticker is too hard to read
Jun 15th 2013
274
So Black Skinhead isn't a sample of Beautiful People?
Jun 15th 2013
275
      It reminded me more of Gary Glitter's "Rock'N'Roll Part II" or...
Jun 15th 2013
290
           Yea now that I'm hearing it I get that vibe too.
Jun 15th 2013
291
Not feeling the new direction, and not buying into the anti-hype
Jun 13th 2013
186
^^^this is why the lesson...and hiphop fandom...is dead
Jun 14th 2013
195
does this album have a single?
Jun 14th 2013
193
no single, no promo, no marketing campaign. all on purpose.
Jun 14th 2013
194
Ppl on FB saying it leaked and RGF is down
Jun 14th 2013
196
Well, it leaked
Jun 14th 2013
197
Yeezus did it again. @@@@
Jun 14th 2013
198
inbox
Jun 14th 2013
199
      RE: inbox
Jun 14th 2013
202
      Inbox please...
Jun 14th 2013
203
      RE: inbox
Jun 14th 2013
247
is that Assassin on "I'm in it"?
Jun 14th 2013
200
Yeezus (****) -- pure heat.
Jun 14th 2013
201
I'M IN IT GETS TOO SERIOUS
Jun 14th 2013
204
It's not the noisy, angry, Death Grips-ian album I was promised
Jun 14th 2013
205
group rip out
Jun 14th 2013
206
If this is Kanye without outside influence, he needs to go outside.
Jun 14th 2013
207
stream
Jun 14th 2013
208
Blood on the Leaves is dope AF
Jun 14th 2013
209
RE: Blood on the Leaves is wack AF
Jun 14th 2013
212
that's Nina Simone's version of it. It is incredible tho.
Jul 12th 2013
485
Fire^OK, can we at least get a new thread for the album discussion?
Jun 14th 2013
211
nah, this post deserves to go diamond
Jun 14th 2013
220
i take my threads like i take my dicks
Jun 14th 2013
226
I am a God rocking
Jun 14th 2013
213
welp at least he made it only 10 songs
Jun 14th 2013
214
i really want to wait until it actually comes out
Jun 14th 2013
215
Well, it's better than 808s!
Jun 14th 2013
216
Im no hip-hop conoisseur but it sounds pretty dope to me
Jun 14th 2013
217
Despite my appreciation of Kanye always looking forward
Jun 14th 2013
218
im in it
Jun 14th 2013
219
Yeah.
Jun 14th 2013
222
easily my favorite song on the album
Jun 14th 2013
223
The question is... how the fuck did that make the album?!
Jun 14th 2013
233
I think it's a soft spot for him.
Jun 14th 2013
246
      that's why he called it "Bound 2" he will always be bound 2
Jun 15th 2013
255
           maybe he's paying homage to Large Pro (link)
Jul 30th 2013
512
Bound 2 is a my favorite song on Yeezus by far...
Jun 18th 2013
345
gunna bang this shit proper during my bubble bath tonight
Jun 14th 2013
221
all of this
Jun 14th 2013
227
5 out of 10; "Black Skinhead" and "Bound 2" I really like
Jun 14th 2013
224
I AM A GOD tho!! this disc's gonna get some spins
Jun 14th 2013
225
Damn Yeezy how'd you do it haaanh?
Jun 14th 2013
228
not messin' with it at all.
Jun 14th 2013
229
My review
Jun 14th 2013
231
Late REGISTRATION** (You wrote Late Graduation in last paragraph)
Jun 14th 2013
232
      Thank you for catching that. Fixing now.
Jun 14th 2013
234
           quick review
Jun 14th 2013
238
So this is pretty much Kanye's /\/\ /\ Y /\?
Jun 14th 2013
236
What the hell is that fam?
Jun 14th 2013
237
      The MIA album
Jun 14th 2013
239
           RE: The MIA album
Jun 14th 2013
245
                Yup. it was a good album
Jun 14th 2013
250
NNNNNIIIIIIGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 14th 2013
240
"how you gonna be mad on vacation?"
Jun 14th 2013
241
Anyone have any theories
Jun 14th 2013
242
the whole album is purposely raw
Jun 14th 2013
243
sounds like Dilla/Madlib to me
Jun 14th 2013
249
only when madlib and dilla do it..it sounds sloppy good.
Jun 15th 2013
262
I liked the dusty, lo-fi, off-kilter feel of it. I mean I know Kanye
Jun 15th 2013
302
Bound 2 is amazing!!!!
Jun 14th 2013
244
AMEN!!!!!!
Jun 15th 2013
264
1 listen in...
Jun 14th 2013
248
RE: 1 listen in...
Jun 18th 2013
375
Am i the only one enjoying the autotune on blood on the leaves?
Jun 14th 2013
251
with you 100%
Jun 15th 2013
265
Not bad....but sounds like Death Grips.
Jun 15th 2013
252
RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
Jun 15th 2013
253
never heard this.
Jun 15th 2013
270
2nd listen on good headphones was a big improvement
Jun 15th 2013
254
No kick knock, tracks run through cheap guitar pedal distortion
Jun 15th 2013
256
you realize this is a scene version
Jun 15th 2013
261
      RE: you realize this is a scene version
Jun 15th 2013
267
      no, thats not it.
Jun 15th 2013
284
New Slaves goes hard af
Jun 15th 2013
259
mos should have been on the album
Jun 15th 2013
266
      Mos can't get around to hopping on his own record let alone Ye's
Jun 15th 2013
303
I guess im the only one who thinks this is garbage.
Jun 15th 2013
260
RE: I guess im the only one who thinks this is garbage.
Jun 15th 2013
276
this def his 808 part 2...and his most sloppy album yet
Jun 15th 2013
263
Yeah, um... nah man. Not really feeling this
Jun 15th 2013
271
this actually works a lot more than i thought it would...
Jun 15th 2013
272
Funny how people are forcing themselves to listen to this 5+ times.
Jun 15th 2013
273
RE: Funny how people are forcing themselves to listen to this 5+ times.
Jun 15th 2013
277
what's wrong with that?
Jun 15th 2013
278
Nothing at all, but that's not his point.
Jun 15th 2013
282
      right on.
Jun 15th 2013
285
the second half is pretty plainly average.
Jun 15th 2013
280
this is where I'm at
Jun 15th 2013
296
don't pretend to know my listening habits lol
Jun 15th 2013
281
Reply 282... last paragraph.
Jun 15th 2013
283
It only took 1 to know it was ill.
Jun 15th 2013
288
Good thing El-P and Kanye are my two favorite hip hop artists
Jun 15th 2013
294
EL-P and ye are 2 of my favorite artists
Jun 17th 2013
304
RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
Jun 15th 2013
279
u said the same shit like 5 times already. u ok?
Jun 15th 2013
287
      no i didn't
Jun 15th 2013
289
i only like 3 tracks...y'all can have the rest
Jun 15th 2013
286
First of all, I applaud Kanye for...
Jun 15th 2013
292
this is a joke, right? this CAN'T be the real album...
Jun 15th 2013
293
that's how I know I'm old now, cause this crap blows hard to me
Jun 15th 2013
295
i like it. eff all yall nonye niggas
Jun 15th 2013
297
RE: i like it. eff all yall nonye niggas
Jun 15th 2013
298
      RE: i like it. eff all yall nonye niggas
Jun 15th 2013
299
           hunna
Jun 15th 2013
300
this shit is tight. i dont even fuck with him either
Jun 15th 2013
301
I like it, but can tell it'll get stale fast.. looking forward to hearin...
Jun 17th 2013
305
the producer of Send it Up is one of my current favorite DJ/producers
Jun 17th 2013
311
gotta give this another listen, but initial impression? eh.
Jun 17th 2013
306
I found it odd that these songs actually work in the club
Jun 17th 2013
307
it's not really odd. this album bangs obnoxiously hard.
Jun 17th 2013
308
thunderous as squirrel farts go, I guess
Jun 17th 2013
328
thats about the only place they work, couple hard ass beats here
Jun 17th 2013
313
i see now that Gesaffelstein done laced him up too
Jun 17th 2013
309
told u
Jun 17th 2013
310
yea, so, it bang, and the Kanye song is an actual song
Jun 17th 2013
315
not according to the credits I saw on mixmag.net
Jun 17th 2013
317
original credits on wiki had TNGHT as the head producers
Jun 17th 2013
319
And? He's been sampling his whole career, lol.
Jun 17th 2013
318
A) that isnt a sample, thats a very slight rerub + vocals
Jun 17th 2013
320
      LMAO, sure lil buddy
Jun 17th 2013
321
this makes me find the kanye song more impressive
Jun 17th 2013
323
RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
Jun 17th 2013
314
"Bound 2" is one of the GOAT hip-hop masterpieces
Jun 17th 2013
316
my least fav song on this with Blood on The Leaves
Jun 17th 2013
322
I concur
Jun 17th 2013
324
*waits for someone to say something funny about this*
Jun 17th 2013
326
Nope! It's indisputable. Greatest love song since 'Song Cry'
Jun 17th 2013
327
      *looks @ post 329*
Jun 17th 2013
334
damn nigga keep both sets of lips shut for a few minutes
Jun 17th 2013
329
oh u still in here? album bangs huh?
Jun 17th 2013
330
It's the only listenable song on the album
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Do people only like this because it's a soul sample looped?
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It only seems that way because the rest of it is so bad
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wow...
Jun 28th 2013
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the album is 65% ego, and 35% experimental.
Jun 17th 2013
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let's say, 7.8/10
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Probably the best review of Yeezus I've seen
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Thanks!
Jun 18th 2013
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fantastic review
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Thanks!
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wow great job on the review
Jun 25th 2013
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      Thanks!
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1/10, horrible album
Jun 17th 2013
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I'm having NoYork flashbacks
Jun 17th 2013
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NoYork is a great example of a "grower"
Jun 18th 2013
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P4K: 9.5 / BNM
Jun 18th 2013
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RE: P4K: 9.5 / BNM
Jun 18th 2013
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LMAO
Jun 18th 2013
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Rolling Stone 4 1/2 stars. Gonna be album of the year.
Jun 18th 2013
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(0_o)??!!? HAAAAAAAAAAAHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN?
Jun 18th 2013
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Rhymefest and Lupe
Jun 18th 2013
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cyhi the prince, malik yusef, fonzworth bentley, cudi, ab-liva
Jun 20th 2013
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Differences between iTunes and CD?
Jun 18th 2013
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I'm Australian, Copped the CD today, I'll let ya know if anything seems ...
Jun 18th 2013
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      it's ok
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           White Mandingos> Kanye
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6.25/10. Solid Production but not for me.
Jun 18th 2013
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RE: 6.25/10. Solid Production but not for me. - and not BY him
Jun 19th 2013
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LMAO @ the Spotify listing
Jun 18th 2013
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this thing is awful
Jun 18th 2013
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Ye just shit in everyones mouth, and y'all are gargling
Jun 18th 2013
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RE: Ye just shit in everyones mouth, and y'all are gargling
Jun 18th 2013
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Oh, I dunno. The beats and the rapping?
Jun 18th 2013
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Because nobody liked this until critics gave their approval
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How about, I dunno, *you* grow up and stop being a bitch. Thanks
Jun 18th 2013
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i think dude has hemorrhoids.
Jun 18th 2013
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      Or I just think it sucks and wanted to needle some stans.
Jun 18th 2013
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Who are you addressing with this?
Jun 19th 2013
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      try and pay attention.
Jun 24th 2013
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a whole lot of chefs in the kitchen for this shit to come out like this
Jun 18th 2013
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Review: Kanye Pulls Off Messy, Majestic Triumph With 'Yeezus' Album (VIB...
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Kanye followers = swallowers
Jun 18th 2013
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Chill with the lazy insults....
Jun 18th 2013
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actually
Jun 18th 2013
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      I dig it.....
Jun 18th 2013
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Kudos for this review, g.
Jun 23rd 2013
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Interesting that CyHi, Rhymefest, & Malik Yusef got writing credits all ...
Jun 18th 2013
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Dude sampled Kenny Latimore tho lol. n/m
Jun 18th 2013
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Rick Rubin on working on Yeezus (link)
Jun 18th 2013
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This could have been an r&b album? Fuck Rick, brah.
Jun 19th 2013
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that American Psycho promo was the worse thing
Jun 18th 2013
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Charlemagne went in tho (LINK)
Jun 18th 2013
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RE: Charlemagne went in tho (LINK)
Jun 18th 2013
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if you're really a fan of Yeezus, DON'T buy his album.
Jun 18th 2013
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      Yeah that point about not buying it made alotta sense...
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      Kanye wasn't calling himself the new slave, he was calling "us"
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           in that case, his schtick is worse than I thought.
Jun 20th 2013
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At best it's a C-... the replay value will be minimal. It's my
Jun 18th 2013
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I'd give it between a 7.6 and 8.3
Jun 18th 2013
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Just finished listening EPIC better than MDTF by eons
Jun 18th 2013
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LOL @ Pitchfork
Jun 18th 2013
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lmao this shit is a hot fucking turd
Jun 18th 2013
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agreed
Jun 18th 2013
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      I will say though
Jun 18th 2013
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um
Jun 18th 2013
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love some tracks, some are meh, some i don't like
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RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
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RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
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Full credits:
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http://i.imgur.com/9yIbuGl.jpg
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Haha, I just copied & pasted that shit.
Jun 19th 2013
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So many names I didn't expect to see man....
Jun 19th 2013
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Favorite Lines:
Jun 19th 2013
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i have a serious question
Jun 19th 2013
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lyrically this album is terrible
Jun 19th 2013
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Yeah the lyrics are scattered like a mufucka, BUT...
Jun 20th 2013
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upon second listen, it's not as noisy/thrashy as I first thought
Jun 19th 2013
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'Ye musta made a one dollar bet that he could....
Jun 20th 2013
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Em did it first
Jun 20th 2013
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so is your face.
Jun 20th 2013
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Kanye ain't got shit on Kendrick
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Who Made Yeezus? (link)
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Benji b? Interesting
Jun 22nd 2013
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KTT audiophile breaks down differences between CD/iTunes/NZ iTunes
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It's decent
Jun 20th 2013
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Hah, like when Franco went punk on freaks & geeks
Jun 21st 2013
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My dude... I laughed SO hard at this...
Jun 21st 2013
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i honestly don't think i can sit through an album of him rapping anymore
Jun 21st 2013
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RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
Jun 21st 2013
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this sounds like a mixtape of throwaway tracks
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RE: this sounds like a mixtape of throwaway tracks
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      RE: this sounds like a mixtape of throwaway tracks
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Several spins and a few days later
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imo, this gets better and better on repeat listens
Jun 22nd 2013
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^^^I agree
Jun 23rd 2013
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that's not getting better, that's being convinced of something
Jun 23rd 2013
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If you don't know that feeling of clicking with something, that's a bumm...
Jun 23rd 2013
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you must have not been a teen in the 90's
Jun 23rd 2013
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      Cuban Linx is just his personal example, not the point
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      I was an elementary schooler
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please don't talk to me about my experience.
Jun 23rd 2013
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      NIGGA!
Jun 24th 2013
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           Albums definitely get better...
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           right. I had that same experience with OK Computer
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           it's impossible. when it comes out it's as good as it's ever gonna be
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                nah... I disagree...
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                     so let me get this straight
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                          *dead*
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                          Garhart Poppwell U R Off, son
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                               before calling someone 'off' I'd suggest
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           I can't disagree more
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           i think his point is, your perception changes
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           But to me that just sort of a semantical argument
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                there's no semantics involved
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           thanks for reading, bucko
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           _
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wait wait stahp, i see what you are doing but
Jul 01st 2013
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RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
Jun 23rd 2013
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Watch the Throne is dope as hell!!
Jun 25th 2013
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I may be in the minority but second half > first half
Jun 25th 2013
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RE: I may be in the minority but second half > first half
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Pitchfork: The Yeezus Sessions - Interviews with Kanye's collaborators
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RE: Pitchfork: The Yeezus Sessions - Interviews with Kanye's collaborato...
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El-P, FlyLo...yawn. Kanye + a shitty guitar pedal = Genius.
Jun 26th 2013
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RE: El-P, FlyLo...yawn. Kanye + a shitty guitar pedal = Genius.
Jun 26th 2013
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I like kicks that knock & like distorted elements, not whole mixes.
Jun 27th 2013
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      I'm not saying you SHOULD like it
Jun 27th 2013
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lol @ Real experimental
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      RE: lol @ Real experimental
Jun 28th 2013
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Very very good album. Only thing I'm listening to since it came out.
Jun 27th 2013
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Looks like most folks in here hate it. Oh well.
Jun 27th 2013
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9/10 cant compare it to any other albums he dropped
Jun 27th 2013
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second half sounds like 808s to me
Jun 28th 2013
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RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)
Jun 27th 2013
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Damn, Ye's sense of urgency/intensity in New Slaves...
Jun 27th 2013
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Trash. Image continues to dominate over quality
Jun 27th 2013
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cant wait for Yeezus 2
Jun 28th 2013
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One of the worst albums I've heard since 808s & Heartbreak
Jun 28th 2013
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Yeezus = one of the greatest musical achievements ever any genre.
Jul 02nd 2013
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I feel like a lot of people would go listen to Run the Jewels right now
Jul 02nd 2013
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Shut up. Go back to listening to Atmosphere.
Jul 02nd 2013
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      Yeezus haters no one mentioned Toro Y Moi yet.
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      goddamn you are mad dun.
Jul 02nd 2013
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smh
Jul 04th 2013
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I feel sorry for your mother.
Jul 04th 2013
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this album is lyrically horrible
Jul 03rd 2013
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I like this way more after a second listen
Jul 04th 2013
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ANCHOR THIS SHIT AGAIN; IT FINALLY REALLY HIT ME
Jul 12th 2013
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lol
Jul 12th 2013
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I had it all wrong about this album.
Jul 22nd 2013
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I agree. It may not be the best album but it's the most important
Jul 22nd 2013
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What's important about it?
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Bucking the whole system while being the biggest star in it?
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:)
Jul 22nd 2013
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I'd say this would matter if he didn't shack up with a fame slut
Jul 22nd 2013
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right? he aint satirizing shit...he *believes* it
Jul 22nd 2013
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You don't think he's quite aware of the contradiction?
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      His awareness of his hypocrisy doesn't negate his hypocrisy
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           Are we defined by the people we date/sleep with/knock up?
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                RE: Are we defined by the choices we make?
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                     Eh, we'll just have to agree to disagree then I guess
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                          No, you'll just be wrong and I'll be right. It's ok though.
Jul 22nd 2013
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                               You must be a miserable person in real life bud. I feel sorry for ur bf
Jul 22nd 2013
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                                    I must be miserable because you're insanely easy to troll?
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                                         Oh, you're trolling. Cool.
Jul 22nd 2013
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                                              Oh, it didn't start out that way
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                                                   You mean when I said we'll just have to agree to disagree?
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                                                        No, but it WAS the perfect time to crank it up to 100.
Jul 22nd 2013
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ok you guys have officially jumped the megalodon
Jul 22nd 2013
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      whether intentional or not, Yeezus is a pop-cultural satire
Jul 24th 2013
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           satire is inherently intentional
Jul 31st 2013
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one of the worst albums...ever
Jul 22nd 2013
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Yeezus still in heavy rotation. Album of the year.
Jul 22nd 2013
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It's funny how now the album doesn't sound strange at all......
Jul 22nd 2013
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it's a grower
Jul 22nd 2013
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if this album is so great
Jul 30th 2013
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i am still signing it's praises
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I'm sorry that I enjoy this album.
Jul 30th 2013
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love the second half. don't care for the first half
Jul 31st 2013
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Well you upped this post from a month ago, no?
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "Not feeling the industrial, aggressive electro sound"
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What ever the fuck you want to call it I ain't feeling it. That "Could Have Been Somebody" joint doesn't fit the vibe either. SMH, I waited three years for this shit?! Damn!

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2. "RE: Not feeling the industrial, aggressive electro sound"
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>What ever the fuck you want to call it I ain't feeling it.
>That "Could Have Been Somebody" joint doesn't fit the vibe
>either. SMH, I waited three years for this shit?! Damn!

I understand what you mean. It's a pretty radical shift from previous records. I'll wait with my opinions until i've heard the CDQ though.

  
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9. "Me neither"
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>What ever the fuck you want to call it I ain't feeling it.
>That "Could Have Been Somebody" joint doesn't fit the vibe
>either. SMH, I waited three years for this shit?! Damn!

I'll hold judgement until hearing the complete album........maybe it'll make sense or click for me then, but the individual songs I've heard so far I haven't liked at all and I've rode with every phase of Kanye right up through "Cruel Summer".


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3. "Like the direction, hopefully it flows/sequenced correctly"
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Like Nick said above that 'Could Have Been Somebody' sounds totally out of place...like an 808 leftover.

I Am God sounds a little more Swedish House Mafia then Skinny Puppy.

Love the beat on Send It Up tho, it's where I hope he aimed...aggressive and sinister but still danceable or at least a heavy head nod factor.

  
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14. "I Am A God going to be HOT"
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>Like Nick said above that 'Could Have Been Somebody' sounds
>totally out of place...like an 808 leftover.
>
>I Am God sounds a little more Swedish House Mafia then Skinny
>Puppy.
>
>Love the beat on Send It Up tho, it's where I hope he
>aimed...aggressive and sinister but still danceable or at
>least a heavy head nod factor.

  
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389. "Gesaffelstein...also a Movement 13 performer lol"
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>Love the beat on Send It Up tho,

  
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4. "not feeling it at all. hopefully the next one's better"
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no interest at all in hearing this one either

  
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5. "I like "On Site" and "I Am A God"."
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This is definitely something I'd have to hear before copping though.
Most of these songs are sounding pretty iffy to me.

  
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66. ""On Site" is gonna go so fuckin' hard in the speakers."
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6. "damn/lol @ kanye relying on a trap producer to carry his albums"
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without HudMo Cruel Summer would have been irredeemable

  
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7. "its funny...i dont think he can pull off the production he wants nowaday..."
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Like when he farmed out 'Stronger' to Timbaland so he could beef up the drums.


>without HudMo Cruel Summer would have been irredeemable

  
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25. "but isn't he pulling it off if he chooses the right voices, sonic qualit..."
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and talent he wants on his albums? personally i think someone who can say "alright, what i've got down on paper isn't how i want it to sound... but i do know how i want it to sound and i think person A, sound B, and producer C can get it to where it needs to be" is a better *producer* than someone who just says, "ok, i had a vision for how this would shape up, it's not quite meeting that vision, but whatever, i'd rather it be all me/i don't know how to bridge the gap i'm trying to cross, so i'll leave it at that"... very little of ye's sounds and what he has to say sounds frivolous to me.. imo, great producers do much more than create, they make choices.. and i happen to think dude has been making some pretty great choices throughout his career

  
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27. "no if kanye cant do it all himself IT DONT MATTER."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  
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DonWonJusuton
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28. "lol"
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29. "Oh, im firmly in camp A"
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>and talent he wants on his albums? personally i think someone
>who can say "alright, what i've got down on paper isn't how i
>want it to sound... but i do know how i want it to sound and i
>think person A, sound B, and producer C can get it to where it
>needs to be" is a better *producer* than someone who just
>says, "ok, i had a vision for how this would shape up, it's
>not quite meeting that vision, but whatever, i'd rather it be
>all me/i don't know how to bridge the gap i'm trying to cross,
>so i'll leave it at that"... very little of ye's sounds and
>what he has to say sounds frivolous to me.. imo, great
>producers do much more than create, they make choices.. and i
>happen to think dude has been making some pretty great choices
>throughout his career

and agree with everything above.

Its just interesting how he's switching gears.

  
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32. "here's the thing tho"
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i dont listen to music for a display of executive producing

its not a coincidence Hit-boy and HudMo were directly involved with every good song on Cruel Summer

kanye's personality changed but his sound didnt, so now he needs other people to do that for him

and thats ok. but HudMo, TNGHT, Justice, Daft Punk...those are not beatmakers or session guys. they make instrumental songs, not tracks for vocalists usually. id surprised if Kanye was standing over Thomas Bangalters shoulder doing anything other than: "nah, nah, nah, YES! i'll take that one!"

  
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44. "you underestimate Kanye then."
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> id surprised if
>Kanye was standing over Thomas Bangalters shoulder doing
>anything other than: "nah, nah, nah, YES! i'll take that
>one!"

<--- Big Baller World Order

  
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68. "no, you overestimate him"
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I don't mind the fact that he's going to people that can give him what he wants, but we all know you niggers will give him all the credit for that shit
these guys aren't session musicians, it's a bit more involved than that

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82. "without YEEZUS' vision the joints wouldnt hit like that"
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you're just wrong.

  
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89. "^^^Exhibit F"
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96. "^^^Paid full price for that Lawless Element CD"
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107. "just listened and everything hits harder than any Kaney LP ever "
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108. "^^^sends dick pics to Magnif"
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109. "you have no room to talk about anybody doing any dick reception"
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you're in here mighty hard rooting for niggas

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110. "Grown men who call other grown men Nonny don't either"
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113. "oh you with this nigga?"
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you want it too, nigga?

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116. "By "it", do you mean a nickname like Nonny?"
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118. "no I mean a dickprint on your prostate gland"
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120. "You can't call men "Noony" and then pretend to act intimidating."
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It just doesn't work.

  
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119. "nigga mad as shit tryna blast cheeks like Zed did Marcellus"
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SMH

  
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123. "Doesn't take much to wind up Grant so much he says weird shit..."
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does it?

  
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129. "add me too..I think you bring the boards down"
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Fuck you

  
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128. "that Nonny shit is extra wishy washy. Plus he talks about Dick more"
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than women do

  
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142. "damn can a nigga lurk in peace"
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...

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148. "LMFAO - i love this place"
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166. "lolllllllllllllll"
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192. "lmao"
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Instagram: @von_clay

  
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230. "muerte"
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  
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98. "hit like what...this?"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HzyUHxmkg0

or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-kjLzAIYAY

or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgdoPtMAobU

or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy1dYFGkPUE

or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzWLUQizz8


man these dudes dont need Kanye...but he needs them.

  
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103. "LULZ"
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>man these dudes dont need Kanye...but he needs them.

  
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147. "whats funny? if it werent true they wouldnt be on the album lol"
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daft punk, justice, HudMo, and TNGHT were doing just fine before Kanye brought them in to keep his sound relevant

  
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152. "they are capable of successful careers"
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independent of Kanye, yes. Will they be as successful without Kanye production work? No.

Kanye doesn't NEED them either.

it's called a collaborative effort.

So you are wrong, and you should go sit down somewhere.

  
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155. "if he wants to sell records in 2013 he does"
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for all of your comments about how miserable "people" must be for not liking this, you have gone way the opposite direction

because if you cant admit that Kanye needs them to have a relevant sound you're lying to yourself

he's jumping on the trap/"EDM" bandwagon. he wont have a credible sound without people in the genre to produce for him. ergo, he needs them.

  
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156. "i never said this"
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>for all of your comments about how miserable "people" must be
>for not liking this

I said how miserable people are for HATING ON KANYE (or any artist for that matter). Not liking it is something else. Those people either never reply to this post or speak their peace and bounce. I respect that. Every sensible poster on OKP does this. Haters set up base camp and shit on fans repeatedly. Even if it means sacrificing their favorite albums for more potent hate.

>because if you cant admit that Kanye needs them to have a
>relevant sound you're lying to yourself
>
>he's jumping on the trap/"EDM" bandwagon. he wont have a
>credible sound without people in the genre to produce for him.
> ergo, he needs them.

Kanye doesn't need them dudes. Those are just the folks he decided to collab (i'm starting to think the meaning of this word has eluded you) with. He can pull a number of Trap/EDM producers and between him and Mike Dean...come up with similar product. Alot of yall are discounting Mike Dean as well. He deserves an appreciation post but I digress.

To your point, sure if Kanye tried to do this solo he would probably produce some shitty chipmonk soul/boom-bap/electro hybrid. However, this is what makes Kanye great. He knows this. He needs a team to fully realize his vision. I'm sure a number of you would agree some of the best music is made when a well constructed team is behind the scenes. You guys are getting mad at him for this? nah...nah...i cant believe anyone is that stupid.

  
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171. "lol who is mad?"
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All I said was that he needs them to craft a timely sound for him. Mike Dean's involvement backs up my point. A kanye west solo production charting on Beatport would back up yours, but thats never gonna happen.

Its the ppl who worship at his altar that got mad at the thought that
A)a kanye west album would have others' production.
B)those producers are better

Its not gonna affect my enjoyment of the finished product because I have no personal stake. Still true tho.

  
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177. "K"
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157. "you crazy if you don't think Kanye don't humanize TNGHT's"
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tracks.

HudMo has a very soulful vibe to his solo shit, so I don't even really lump his stuff in the trap pile. But that TNGHT shit definitely has a ceiling to its appeal, that a dude like kanye could help them push past, musically

  
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172. "I can agree with this"
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I think thats intentional on TNGHT's part, which is why their tracks are short

Plus theyve always said their dream is to produce for MCs (as TNGHT anyways). Im not mad at the pairing at all. I just wanted to emphasize that these are independent artists whose careers would be just fine without working with Kanye; additionally Kanye cant make the album he wants without them.

Thats where my statement of "he needs them more than they need him" comes from.

  
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111. "I'm gonna need some proof here."
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Videos, interviews, something that shines light on Ye's ability to traditionally produce a record. I've seen a clip in a studio where he's banging around on an MPC, and the shit ain't pretty.

Again, the reason this is so ridiculous to me is because he needs THAT much help to make electronic music. It's not like he's directing a band or anything.

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144. "nah, hes right"
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62. "^^^Exhibit D"
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87. "you're gonna have to expound, cuz i think you got the wrong"
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dude.. i'm in no way speaking on his new material.. haven't heard a single studio version of any of it... and yes, i'm a kanye west fan, but i'm far from hanging on the dude's nuts (he's made plenty of tracks that i think are bad --> garbage)... i'm not making any conclusions other than what it means to be a producer (or its many meanings.. see: bill szymczyk)... but if you think this works like other artists *accepting* submissions instead of kanye *enlisting* outside help and guiding that help in some way, you're wrong.. and i think there's a difference...

now all i care about is whether i like the shit or not... and i would get no more enjoyment knowing that kanye "did it all himself".. in fact, you could tell me that fergie wrote all of Graduation and i wouldn't like it any less.. i'll give points for going against the grain a bit or stepping outside of a comfort zone or self expression in a novel/genuine way.. but not enough points to make me like something (e.g. 808s)...

so please explain your little "exhibit" series, cuz maybe i'm misunderstanding and i don't want to come at you the wrong way..

  
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90. "I'm with you until the part about"
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his sounds and what he says not being frivolous
most of what he says, and the way he says them, are frivolous to the point for boredom
it's pretty clear he does what he does for the fanfare and acclaim moreso than being an artist
he's a master at pastiche, he doesn't go all the way in when he does something because it's beyond his scope as an artist to do so, and it's by his own design
his execution is always lacking when it comes to anything other than 'LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT WHAT I'M DOING!'

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93. "hmmm... ok, i def. see where you're at.. and you know, i'm not"
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really sure.. i think when i look at kanye, i think i'm looking at a bunch of things.. i'm analyzing him as an MC, as a producer, as a pop artist, as an *artist*, as a public figure, as a celebrity, as an entertainer and then him as a business... so i'm going to agree with you in part and disagree in part...

when it comes to kanye the MC, i think the dude has a dope way of engaging with his audience.. i think he's skilled enough to impress at times and sometimes bad enough to bring his shit down to earth and sound more "everyman".. i also think there's a difference between "corny" and "cheesy" raps.. corny is like "man, turn that shit off, dude is corny".. cheesy is like "haha man, that dude is seriously a fool, the audacity that guy must have to even do that"... i'm of the opinion that kanye is of the "cheesy" variety, maybe it's just cuz i enjoy his rapping (could be "copping pleas" here, but i think i'm being relatively objective lol).. but he doesn't sniff ghostface, DOOM, blackthought, em, etc. as an MC, technically..

kanye the producer is what i said in that first post.. i never claimed that he reinvented the wheel in any way.. but he plays the "listen to me because i'm kanye and you're *supposed* to be listening to me" thing really well... he goes against the *current* grain and because of the place and time in music, i think that's enough to at least be refreshing.. not to mention, i think his execution is 90-100% on point. but again, there's your mention of "pastiche" - honestly, i think he's almost like quentin tarantino in that way..

kanye the pop artist just plain makes music that a lot of people enjoy listening to and get excited about. and that's all this part of the job really requires.

kanye the artist... now here's what we'll probably agree on, but with different connotations.. i listen to kanye and none of what he says or does pushes any sort of boundary and very little of it really let's us peer into "the mind of kanye".. what he does generally is use his celebrity to create very public stories and then uses his albums as a way to "give us his side of the story" and show great "introspection".. that comes off as the kind of personal and artsy stuff critics love... like, "whoa, he wears his heart on his sleeve and allows us to get a glimpse".. but we forget that he set all of that shit up the previous year.. we don't see any part of kanye that we aren't *meant* to see... fucking brilliant, imo. and even for a cynic like me, it's fun to suspend your disbelief w/ this dude..

now i could totally see someone saying that takes away from the artistic integrity of his work and get a little annoyed seeing so many people eat it up.. esp. people who get their "art" fix from ppl like kanye.. but for me, personally, i look at kanye like i'd look at a play/musical that's just ongoing.. i don't know that motherfucker.. got no clue what he's thinking about.. the kanye west *i* know is a fictional character based on a real person - who also happens to play the character and perform the stunts lol.. and that character is just fucking entertaining to watch/listen to..

which plays directly into the "kanye as business" aspect.. i think it's similar to how MJ (jackson and jordan actually) was able to take full advantage of the new mediums available to him to become maybe the biggest we'll ever see (we all know the music was beyond fantastic, legendary, but a lot of how *big* he was able to get had to do w/ the time period).. Kanye is also using everything at his disposal to gain as many fans/haters/observers as possible.. and it's almost as if twitter was actually invented for someone like him.. i mean, his tweets usually result in multiple news articles..

anyways, this response is already too long... i'll just say that i think that "Kanye West: the show" has been artfully done so far... i mean, we've all had like 100 things to say about an album that we haven't heard an actual studio note of.. but i am pretty realistic about all of it..

  
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133. "I can respect that, I take it back chief"
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8. "For the 1000th time....this dude is just a rapper."
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A good one, yes.

But LOL @ these production credits.

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11. "he still a producer "
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


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18. "he's a producer that raps"
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still

  
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60. "RE: he's a producer that raps"
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Truth...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  
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26. "you have no idea what a producer does. "
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u probably think all Directors operate the camera or edit, or do sound, or does all the cinematography lol

  
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30. "Ya'll were giving this dude's shitty MPC beats too much love."
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I'm going out to the death with this one.

You must not be familiar with my hate for West's "genius" production.

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153. "^^^ PREACH ^^^"
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www.soundcloud.com/j-clyde
www.twitter.com/JClyde757
IG: @JClyde757

  
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180. "i like kanye west"
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but i hate how nowindays people throw around the word "genius"

son..."genius"...thats stevie....MJ...hendrix....bill evans....coltrane.....ETC

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182. "This is such a ridiculous argument. Is there any hip hop artist"
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that you consider "genius"?

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  
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183. "how is it ridiculous man? "
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it isn't a word that should be taken lightly no?

To me rakim and nas are lyrical geniuses
how preemos production is so simple, yet keeps me coming back every single time, is genius to me

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191. ""(rap artist) isn't a genius, (artists from other genres) are!""
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  
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210. "When did I say that man?"
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I think you are just mad that I said Kanye wasn't a genius lol. you just ignored a post where I called other hip hop artists geniuses

and its okay if thats the case, we just don't agree

no need to call my opinion ridiculous just because I'm not a super Kanye...stan? especially because you are talking to someone who likes his music anyway

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37. "cmon bro"
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producing electronic music isnt like producing for a rock band

a producer for a rock band does things the way you just described.

techno, house, *trap*, drum and bass, etc etc etc

those producers do everything themselves unless they want to record some live instruments that they themselves dont know how to play

  
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235. "RE: cmon bro"
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Do you know HOW many electronic producers have ghost producers?? or a team that makes all their shit tight??

A LOT...

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257. "oh ghost production was a talking point last summer for sure"
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Im fairly confident that its more of a problem among the EDC crowd than in the underground techno/house/dnb scene

But u never know

  
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268. "Name names, big dogg."
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Kanye can't do a single thing by himself on the production side anymore.

Why can't anyone admit it instead of making all these excuses and moving the goalposts?

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411. "they're MAD invested for some reason lol"
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45. "I mean, he IS a rapper"
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But isn't he a producer first? He was a producer first, and the way his music goes, putting together a song/album is much more his lane than just rapping.


>A good one, yes.

Eh. He's alright. It's really those production credits that allowed him to rap.

  
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67. "^^^ Never heard The Blueprint. nm"
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nm

  
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94. "LOL...was I supposed to be impressed by his beats on there?"
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Sampling The Doors and The Jackson 5 and shit? With those weak ass drums? Come on.

He got lucky that his low-budget sample beats came around at the right time. I remember OKP giving this dude love back in 02 SOLELY based off the fact that he was "a mainstream rap artist who used samples."

Flash forward 10 years and it takes 4 guys to make a beat on a Kanye West album. What the fuck?

Oh and no one seems to agree with me when I actually give him props as a rapper, which I find odd. He worked hard to get to where he is on the mic and he deserves credit. His "production" methods, on the other hand, have become downright laughable.

You don't hear me though.

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258. "These dude's definitions would have Puffy as a producer"
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lol

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269. "HE ADDED THE WINDCHIMES AND HAD A VISION."
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These people are ridiculous.

They'll force themselves to believe anything as long as it means giving Yeezy credit.

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10. "Seeing Rick Rubin's name in the credits solidifies for me that he's goin..."
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for a semi-throwback to that "hard," aggressive mid-80's Def Jam "Reduced by Rick Rubin" vibe

Some of us lived through that; if it's not your thing then it's not your thing

And no, I haven't listened to the tracks yet; I thought it had leaked

Just being honest

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19. "Here's the story behind Rick Rubin's inclusion (link)"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/kanye-rick-rubin-yeezus_n_3414929.html

Kanye West and Rick Rubin have reportedly teamed up to finish "Yeezus," West's album that's due out on the fast approaching date of June 18.

A new report in the New York Post cites anonymous sources who say West is driving his label, Def Jam, mad with constant tinkering. The rapper -- who performed new material at Governors Ball on Sunday night -- is said to be particularly obsessed with "Onsite," a new song that features the Holy Name of Mary Church choir, which is from Chicago's South Side.

Def Jam reportedly had such a rough go of securing rights for the vocals that they recorded another version in the studio, which the Post says West agreed to use. Rubin, a seven-time Grammy winner and producer of legendary albums for Run DMC, LL Cool J, the Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, Johnny Cash, Slayer, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against the Machine and many more, was reportedly brought in to help West cross the T's and dot the I's on the disc. (The Huffington Post can confirm that Rubin has contributed a good deal of production to the album, but our sources didn't cite delays as the reason why.)

Sources also told The Huffington Post that the lack of cover art for "Yeezus" (the jewelcase is unadorned, though fans have taken to coming up with crafty art after they were instructed to add their own "graffiti") allows for more time before the album must be set to the plant.

West seemed to hint at delays during his set on Sunday:

"I'm just happy to be making music and happy to be performing for you all. You know for this album, we didn't drop a single to radio, we ain't have no big NBA campaign, we don't even have a cover. We only made real music. Back then we used to go work on an album for like 5 months, then we'd come back and wait for the label to pick the perfect time to release it. When you listen to radio, that isn't where I want to be any more. And, honestly, at this point, I could give a f--k about selling a million records. I'll drop it when I want and I'll sell more records. Because at this point, I don't really care about outside opinions."

According to the Post, Rubin will be credited as executive producer. HuffPost Entertainment has reached out to Def Jam for comment on the Post's report and will update this article should a statement be made available the label declined to comment on the story. The album also features contributions from No ID, RZA, Daft Punk and many more.

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12. "West stay winning. shit sounds hot."
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13. "I've always loved how Kanye uses features"
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The guest spots on his albums are like instruments: Paul Wall on Drive Slow, Ross on Devil in a New Dress, Raekwon on Gorgeous for instance.

So with this in mind I already know I'm getting something hard with the Keef feature.
What's funny is I dont even like Chief Keef, in fact I can't stand him, but there's a strong chance Ill still like the song.

  
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52. "Agreed"
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And it's something that I'm seeing Kendrick Lamar doing very well also.

MBDTF is the perfect example on how to use guest spots

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63. "^^^Exhibit E"
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15. "really cats already singing lyrics for New Slaves"
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lol West killing it

  
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23. "Kanye is that you?"
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>lol West killing it

https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

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16. "Not listening to snippets but Daft Punk & Hud Mo=YES. n/m"
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  
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17. "the choir sample on "On Site""
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is an amazing old gospel song.
heard it on Gilles Peterson a few months ago.
one of those sick rare old joints.
Kind of disappointed in the way he used it.
He would have been better off rhyming over the whole joint.
i guess it's an homage.

anyway.
excited for the record.
not thrilled about the autotune joint though.

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21. "just read reply 19. awesome!"
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20. "First Kanye album I've anticipated in a long time."
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I like the direction so far.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

  
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22. "Cocain was involved in the making of this album"
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https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

  
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73. "I read that with Rick James voice ..."
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... from the Chapelle show interview.

  
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423. "HEAVILY"
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24. "What up Yeezus! Shit bout to be a classic."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  
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31. "^^^Exhibit A"
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54. "lmao"
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47. "If its not, will you say it is anyway though?"
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59. "that's exactly what these niggas is built for, of course he will"
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134. "i dont have to worry about that."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  
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51. "yup. this is already looking to be better than CD & LR"
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55. "No way this shit is better than LR"
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>

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58. "it actually is though*"
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it's forward thinking and powerful.

there's no denying this album's power.

You can't say shit if a grown man cries after hearing "Roses" so Yeezus will have to kill it with the album filler. but so far so amazing.







*potentially.

  
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61. "^^^Exhibit C"
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65. "Forward thinking? Please explain"
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81. "name a rapper bold enough to do this."
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CD to 808s to YEEZUS

c'mon...no rapper is making leaps like that and still goin Plat.

Ye is a trend setter. Yall can start rattling off electro artists who influenced this, say Ye aint a genius the way he's blending genres, and other mad-fueled statements but IDC.

  
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88. "RE: name a rapper bold enough to do this."
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>CD to 808s to YEEZUS
>
>c'mon...no rapper is making leaps like that and still goin
>Plat.
>
>Ye is a trend setter. Yall can start rattling off electro
>artists who influenced this, say Ye aint a genius the way he's
>blending genres, and other mad-fueled statements but IDC.
>

I'm a big Ye fan. You can check past posts but this ain't nothing new. Maybe new to those who only listen to rap but this music has been done before. El-P does it better he just ain't popular like Ye so I'll give him credit for doing it with the platform he has but this music has been done before and better too.

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91. "you are right. no argument there"
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but how would you respond if he said "name a MAINSTREAM rapper..."?

  
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92. "RE: you are right. no argument there"
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>but how would you respond if he said "name a MAINSTREAM
>rapper..."?

that's the only thing I can give Ye credit for is doing this type of music on a mainstream level. Can't give him a cookie just for doing it though because it's not sounding good IMO but if he can feed the youth some kind of message I'm cool with it.

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95. "i shoulda typed out MAINSTREAM because thats what i meant"
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but i'm glad that you can see that Ye is in a class of his own regardless of whether or not you personally fuck with the music.

Millions of others do, perhaps you are feeling left out.

  
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97. "RE: i shoulda typed out MAINSTREAM because thats what i meant"
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>but i'm glad that you can see that Ye is in a class of his
>own regardless of whether or not you personally fuck with the
>music.
>
>Millions of others do, perhaps you are feeling left out.

I'm a big Ye fan. Check the archives. I been riding for him. Still buying this album because I support my niggas through the ups and downs. I don't have a problem with the production. He's just not the right artist to do this IMO.

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70. "You heard the album?"
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80. "heard 6 out of 10 just like u. its very promising so far"
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33. "I for one am feeling the industrial, electro direction"
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lyrically kanye has peaked and is on the decline so re-inventing his sound makes sense.
i also like this sound. it's simultaneously dark and stadium status.
it's very alterna-negro...lol... i'm all about it.
always wanted to hear an american rapper over this type of music.

  
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34. "lol he isnt reinventing his sound...he's using other ppls sounds "
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35. "don't be daft homie. kanye is a recording artist"
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and not just a producer. he's run out of original beat ideas. that doesn't mean he should quit making music...lol

if madonna can be described as changing her "sound" with every album then kanye can be given the same leeway. especially knowing how OCD hands-on he is with crafting shit.

i swear some of y'all rap fans actually hate rap. gotdamn.

  
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36. "im not talking about his rapping"
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all those people in the production credits that 2/3 of this post has never heard of?

they make music like that on their own and have since before they ever started working with Kanye

  
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38. "please there is no name in that whole tracklist"
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>all those people in the production credits that 2/3 of this
>post has never heard of?

...that people havent heard of. ESPECIALLY on OKP. foh.

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39. "i think you are overestimating your peers here"
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maybe not these particular people in this particular post

but yeah

everyone who says they love kanye's new dark sound is outing themselves

  
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42. "are you a Kanye "hater"?"
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just let me know so that I don't waste my time trying to explain this shit to you.
and just let you do what you want to.
cause i'm a hater too (just not of Kanye) so i know how that goes.

>maybe not these particular people in this particular post
>
>but yeah
>
>everyone who says they love kanye's new dark sound is outing
>themselves
this sound is not new to the beatmakers he enlisted but they NEW FOR KANYE the rapper!
what part of this shit is confusing you?

and all those guys are known. at least on okp.
why are you acting like you got a smoking gun?

  
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100. "not at all...he's got 4 albums i think are incredible"
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CD, LR, Grad., and MBDTF are 4.5 star albums easily

but his sound lately is derivative. actually thats unfair because derivative would imply that the people he's deriving it from arent just doing it themselves.

and like i said, in this post yeah those are probably well known names...but peek into some of the "white trap" posts from the past year

see the people poo-pooing it? as soon as those people declare how much they love Yeezus my point will be proven

  
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104. "RE: not at all...he's got 4 albums i think are incredible"
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that's a different point though. but yes i agree that people like to be spoon fed their "tastes".
>see the people poo-pooing it? as soon as those people declare
>how much they love Yeezus my point will be proven
>

  
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149. "Lmao... I love this response"
In response to Reply # 42

  

          

>just let me know so that I don't waste my time trying to
>explain this shit to you.
>and just let you do what you want to.
>cause i'm a hater too (just not of Kanye) so i know how that
>goes.

  
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40. "RE: im not talking about his rapping"
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>all those people in the production credits that 2/3 of this
>post has never heard of?

We've heard of them. Just not feeling Kanye over these soundscapes. He's very pedestrian lyrically so maybe he should've got some writers to go along with the team of producers he assembled. Maybe Mos, my bad, Yasiin Bey or even Saul Williams. They'd be better for this type of music but they couldn't get these same niggas to produce their album because they lack star power.

>
>they make music like that on their own and have since before
>they ever started working with Kanye
>
>

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41. "we agree but i think Kanye could get whoever he wanted"
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>We've heard of them. Just not feeling Kanye over these
>soundscapes. He's very pedestrian lyrically so maybe he
>should've got some writers to go along with the team of
>producers he assembled. Maybe Mos, my bad, Yasiin Bey or even
>Saul Williams. They'd be better for this type of music but
>they couldn't get these same niggas to produce their album
>because they lack star power.

at this point he is the one who decides who is big enough to be on his album

  
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43. "agreed"
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> He's very pedestrian lyrically so maybe he
>should've got some writers to go along with the team of
>producers he assembled.
not saul williams though.

  
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83. "reinventing HIS sound"
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not others'.

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46. "Mike Dean on working w/ Kanye + more (22 min interview)"
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http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/southern-hip-hop-pioneer-mike-dean/51b0b99d78c90a03d2000198

disclaimer: this interviewer is annoying as fuck.

- details Kanye's creative process
- a few hilarious stories of dealing w/ Suge Knight

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48. "yeesh!"
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that's putting it mildly...lol
>disclaimer: this interviewer is annoying as fuck.

he actually said "and they're beautiful" in reference to jay-z verses.
you would have thought he was taking about out a designer purse.

  
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49. "Dude lost his damn mind, he can't be serious with this"
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I was hoping it was all a joke. Not feeling the sound at all, from what I've heard.

Damn, I wanted a new dope Kanye album for the summer. My hopes are no longer high. Hopefully J. cole comes through.

  
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50. "there's folks in this post who are quite upset. not sure why."
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56. "We've waited 3 years for new Ye and we don't like what we're hearing"
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Plain and simple

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57. "^^^Exhibit B"
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__________________________________________
CHOP-THESE-BITCHES!!!!
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Un-OK'd moderator for The Lesson and Make The Music (yes, I do's work up in here, and in your asscrease if you run foul of this

  
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53. "seems like you have to be into raves and edm/mdma to like this shit"
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the difference in reception between send it up and all falls down is hilarious

ye got obsessed with performance music circa graduation and this is just "stadium status" shit on level 200

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72. "seemed like they was bugging out for new slaves"
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>the difference in reception between send it up and all falls
>down is hilarious
>
>ye got obsessed with performance music circa graduation and
>this is just "stadium status" shit on level 200

  
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124. "It's familiarity though"
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Crowd reaction proves nothing about the actual quality of the music.

In 2003 you would have gotten a much bigger crowd reaction from a Chingy track than something from Kanye. College Dropout hadn't come out yet.

Are you going to tell me Right Thurr is a better song than All Falls Down?

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64. "Yet another one to not check for!"
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-

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NEW Edo.G album FreEDOm coming soon!!!

  
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69. "Thank you for sharing, that post made the convo much better"
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71. "Aight OK -"
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OP asked for thoughts and that was my immediate thought...

To further explain that,

Just recently I hovered across Yes website and caught a soulful snippet of a song which sparked a glimpse of interest in this album to me.

After hearin these clips, that interest is gone.

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74. "I feel the same right now..."
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... however I will give it another opportunity after it's been released to hear it in its recorded glory since it sounds sooo shitty live and through laptop speakers.

  
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75. "how is 74 replies & no lp yet? just bad leaks? fuck. lol"
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life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  
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76. "i do think it's ridiculous how over-analyzed this album has been"
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and it's not even out yet.
people are writing articles anchored by pure conjecture.

that said, i'm excited to hear it.
MJ Gone.
who else we gon be hype for?

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77. "I wish he got El-P, Saul Williams or Trent Reznor for the album"
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But I guess he'd rather try to get to their sound without them

  
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79. "all of em old and washed up"
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NOPE, EL-P's recent output is meh.

Im actually surprised Daft Punk made it. They're a lounge act now

  
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84. "el-p production on killer mike's album was dope as fuck tho"
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.

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105. "RE: el-p production on killer mike's album was dope as fuck tho"
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...and maybe even better than the mike ish, was his own LP, "Cancer for Cure"...but let's just agree that Kanye is the man...lol...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  
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167. "yea folks is being silly ELP was producer of the year last year."
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He produced 2 of the top LPs of the year...one of that was my number 1

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114. "jesus fucn christ. get Ye's dick out yo mouth fam, lofl"
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El-P's recent work being "meh", that's a god damn lie

before you go the ohh you a Ye hater, i'm actually in the Graduation, 808s and MBDTF >>> CD, LR camp and love his artistic changes/visionon on aesthetic and populist levels

but you and others literally make it easy as fuck to criticize Ye BECAUSE OF HIS FANS. there in ONE CDQ link in the OP, and yall calling it classic... calm down

it's borderline FULL retard

and jut for reminders sake, you know YE is just as old as El-P and Saul right, right?

  
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126. "why y'all non-believers prefacing every post? "
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"i own ALL his cd's...i was the first person to like 808s on this board, etc"

chill bruh

Yall getting mad because one dude used the scared word. Which summoned Bammer out of his dungeon to post a completely useless post, causing collateral damage on other OKP favorite albums.

look what you've done.

Dudes is actually low key shitting on their favorite albums by agreeing with Bammer in a quest to shit on Ye fans. yall are despicable.

Yeezus fans are devoted. We fuck with dude almost unconditionally. we support dude amongst the hate and the haters can stand it. They actually repeatedly enter this post. I would never do that for a Roc Marciano album discussion. sidebar: nigga solidified his legacy by seeding Kim K. This child will be the second coming, release a c*****c album and/or modeling career and yall will be right up there with mistermaxx mad up in the nursing home. I'd rather kill myself than get to that point.

now i fucks with u Blak...but this post is proof 85% of yall lead miserable lives.


>and jut for reminders sake, you know YE is just as old as El-P
>and Saul right, right?

and? he as aint washed up as them

  
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154. "LOFL"
In response to Reply # 126

  

          

Bammer a fucn weirdo and why anyone replies to that enwurd's post seriously is beyond me. he's like a wounded dog running around the forrest of the lesson howling at people to remember the glroy days of Loon and Graph. he aint looking for conversation/debate. he looking to just say "you're wrong. thaks for your reply"

most preface shit about YE to le stans because exactly how you replied. go to GD look up the post about Kim K being a slut and all that Ye a closet case... i damn near said verbatim what you did "niggas mad He wifed up and impreganted Kim" cause they live in a shit hole with a fat girlfriend. shit my own friends tell em if i had fame and money I'd be just as outtaline and assholish as Ye, BUT that don't mean heads can't be "meh" or not like some of his music or the direction of his sound.

all i'm saying is can we let the album drop first

and El-P is washed up? interviews on pitchfork, noisey, vice, sway in the morning? getting critical love from Potholes to the New York times? touring with Killer Mike all over for the past two years? that's washed up? i need a new life plan stat!

Saul is a poet/writer/thinker who decided to do music. he lives in fucn Paris, maybe he's washed up, who knows. all i know is Ye is definately moving towards a sound saul & Trent already created on Niggy Tardust. does that matter, i dont' know the answer to that either.

  
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161. "respect."
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>all i'm saying is can we let the album drop first
>
>and El-P is washed up? interviews on pitchfork, noisey, vice,
>sway in the morning? getting critical love from Potholes to
>the New York times? touring with Killer Mike all over for the
>past two years? that's washed up? i need a new life plan
>stat!


nope, just not a fan of his. he aint shitty tho but it's meh to me.

  
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125. "Worst reply of the year"
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>NOPE, EL-P's recent output is meh.


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130. "Actually it's some of his BEST production"
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>NOPE, EL-P's recent output is meh.

  
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131. "i'm just not a fan then. I'll let y'all El-P fans rock tho"
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no hate on dude at all

  
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141. "*bumps rap music and C4C in this post*"
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165. "Did you really just say that?"
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El-P killed it last year.

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78. "Hearing Black Skinhead live yesterday was some dope shit"
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Even though it was a diverse festival crowd a ton of people around me knew/had heard the song. Everyone was fucking with those drums. Plus he said some shit about not wanting a cd to sell a mil but it was more important to put out a cd that everyone would bump during the summer yada yada but damn, when he ended with that shit again...this is about to be a beast of a record.

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85. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion]"
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Can't Handle the Liqour (or Can't Hold My Liqour)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FtGrgSiDGVI

  
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86. "Kanye West, 'Yeezus', Track-By-Track First Listen"
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http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/kanye-west-yeezus-track-by-track-first-listen?recache=1&t=1231313

  
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99. "People are mad about an album they haven't even heard..."
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Kanye's ability to have a hissy fit is only exceeded by his ability to induce them.

  
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101. "RE: People are calling it a classic and they haven't even heard it"
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works both ways. I think we've heard enough to make a decision one way or the other.

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102. "Yeah, but it's more pathetic when people who hate Kanye"
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constantly show up in every Kanye thread (and even make their own) just to talk about how much his music sucks.

As it was said in either this thread or that other thread, it's fun to be a stan. Pretty sad when you're blatantly miserable and need to try to prove your opinion is right about someone's music when all people are trying to do is be excited about an album and enjoy the music.

  
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106. "Everybody does that though."
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Kanye stans get the most criticism because he's an easy target.

  
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112. "10 tracks = classic track list"
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>Kanye's ability to have a hissy fit is only exceeded by his
>ability to induce them.

  
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astralblak
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117. "Ye, Lupe, Talib, Nas and Jay bring..."
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the absolute worst out in rap fans. just line after line of silly shit

be it praise or hate

  
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138. "yeah. new ye really brings the SISSY up out of niggas"
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stans and haters alike

some of these replies are embarrassing

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115. "I'm a huge Kanye fan..."
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...but I'm seeing a lot of dickriding in this thread. It isn't mandatory for every person to be madly in love with these songs.

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122. "Real talk."
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>...but I'm seeing a lot of dickriding in this thread. It
>isn't mandatory for every person to be madly in love with
>these songs.

  
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127. "i was about to say the same thing"
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i'm a stan but some of ya'll doing too much

  
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132. "s'all I'm saying"
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121. "coke is really something else"
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135. "Kanye talks to the NYT about his career and Yeezus (swipe)"
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/arts/music/kanye-west-talks-about-his-career-and-album-yeezus.html?pagewanted=all&_r=3&

Malibu, Calif. From Shangri-la Studio here you can see the Pacific Ocean just over the fence lapping calmly at Zuma Beach. And this compound is just as Zen, with recording equipment set up in various locations, including an old bus and a spotless white house with all the mirrors removed.

But there is no rest at Shangri-la, at least for Kanye West. For several days in late May and early June, he and a rotating group of intimates, collaborators and hangers-on were holed up in service of finishing Yeezus (Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam), Mr. Wests sixth solo album, out Tuesday, and one that marks a turn away from his reliable maximalism to something more urgent and visceral.

The original studios were built under the supervision of Bob Dylan and the Band in the 1970s some of The Last Waltz was filmed here and the property was bought in 2011 by the producer Rick Rubin, the man whose brain Mr. West had come here to pick. Together, they sandpapered off the albums rough edges, rerecording vocals and sometimes writing entire new verses. Even as the deadline loomed, Mr. West made room for an appearance at the baby shower for his girlfriend, Kim Kardashian, whos expecting their first child. As the days passed, the songs noticeably morphed, becoming more skeletal and ferocious.

One afternoon, Mr. Rubin exited the studio and declared, to everyone and no one, Its un-bee-leave-able whats happening in there.

If by that he meant the paring-down to what Mr. West lightheartedly referred to as aspiration minimalism, then yes, it was somewhat unbelievable.

Mr. West has had the most sui generis hip-hop career of the last decade. No rapper has embodied hip-hops often contradictory impulses of narcissism and social good quite as he has, and no producer has celebrated the lush and the ornate quite as he has. He has spent most of his career in additive mode, figuring out how to make music thats majestic and thought-provoking and grand-scaled. And hes also widened the genres gates, whether for middle-class values or high-fashion and high-art dreams.

At the same time, hes been a frequent lightning rod for controversy, a bombastic figure who can count rankling two presidents among his achievements, along with being a reliably dyspeptic presence at award shows (when he attends them).

But Mr. West is, above all, a technician, obsessed with sound, and the music of Yeezus spare, direct and throbbing is, effectively, a palate cleanser after years of overexertion, backing up lyrics that are among the most serrated and provocative of his career.

In a conversation that spanned several hours over three days, and is excerpted here, the Chicago-raised Mr. West, 36, was similarly forthright, both elliptical and lucid, even as long workdays led to evident fatigue. He compared the current moment about to release Yeezus, and looking to make a bigger footprint in worlds outside of music to life just before his debut album, The College Dropout, from 2004, another time when he was in untested waters. I want to break the glass ceilings, he said. Im frustrated.

Early Motivation

Q. When your debut album, The College Dropout came out, the thing that people began to associate with you besides music was: Heres someone whos going to argue for his place in history; like, Why am I not getting five stars?

I think you got to make your case. Seventh grade, I wanted to be on the basketball team. I didnt get on the team, so that summer I practiced. I was on the summer league. My team won the championship; I was the point guard. And then when I went for eighth grade, I practiced and I hit every free throw, every layup, and the next day I looked on this chart, and my name wasnt on it. I asked the coach whats up, and they were like, Youre just not on it. I was like, But I hit every shot. The next year I was on the junior team when I was a freshman, thats how good I was. But I wasnt on my eighth-grade team, because some coach some Grammy, some reviewer, some fashion person, some blah blah blah theyre all the same as that coach. Where I didnt feel that I had a position in eighth grade to scream and say, Because I hit every one of my shots, I deserve to be on this team! Im letting it out on everybody who doesnt want to give me my credit.

And you know you hit your shots.

Yeah you put me on the team. So Im going to use my platform to tell people that theyre not being fair. Anytime Ive had a big thing thats ever pierced and cut across the Internet, it was a fight for justice. Justice. And when you say justice, it doesnt have to be war. Justice could just be clearing a path for people to dream properly. It could be clearing a path to make it fair within the arena that I play. You know, if Michael Jordan can scream at the refs, me as Kanye West, as the Michael Jordan of music, can go and say, This is wrong.

Youve won a lot of Grammys.

Dark Fantasy and Watch the Throne: neither was nominated for Album of the Year, and I made both of those in one year. I dont know if this is statistically right, but Im assuming I have the most Grammys of anyone my age, but I havent won one against a white person.

But the thing is, I dont care about the Grammys; I just would like for the statistics to be more accurate.

You want the historical record to be right.

Yeah, I dont want them to rewrite history right in front of us. At least, not on my clock. I really appreciate the moments that I was able to win rap album of the year or whatever. But after a while, its like: Wait a second; this isnt fair. This is a setup. I remember when both Gnarls Barkley and Justin lost for Album of the Year, and I looked at Justin, and I was like: Do you want me to go onstage for you? You know, do you want me to fight

For you.

For whats right. I am so credible and so influential and so relevant that I will change things. So when the next little girl that wants to be, you know, a musician and give up her anonymity and her voice to express her talent and bring something special to the world, and its time for us to roll out and say, Did this person have the biggest thing of the year? that thing is more fair because I was there.

But has that instinct led you astray? Like the Taylor Swift interruption at the MTV Video Music Awards, things like that.

Its only led me to complete awesomeness at all times. Its only led me to awesome truth and awesomeness. Beauty, truth, awesomeness. Thats all it is.

So no regrets?

I dont have one regret.

Do you believe in the concept of regret?

If anyones reading this waiting for some type of full-on, flat apology for anything, they should just stop reading right now.

But that is something that you apologized for.

Yeah, I think that I have like, faltered, you know, as a human. My message isnt perfectly defined. I have, as a human being, fallen to peer pressure.

So that was a situation in which you gave in to peer pressure to apologize?

Yeah.

So if you had a choice between taking back the original action or taking back the apology, youd take back the apology?

You know what? I can answer that, but Im Im just not afraid, but I know that would be such a distraction. Its such a strong thing, and people have such a strong feeling about it. Dark Fantasy was my long, backhanded apology. You know how people give a backhanded compliment? It was a backhanded apology. It was like, all these raps, all these sonic acrobatics. I was like: Let me show you guys what I can do, and please accept me back. You want to have me on your shelves.

The Albums

Thats fascinating, to look at that record through that lens.

I dont have some type of romantic relationship with the public. Im like, the anti-celebrity, and my music comes from a place of being anti. That was the album where I gave people what they wanted. I dont think that at that point, with my relationship with the public and with skeptical buyers, that I couldve done Black Skinhead

Does that make Dark Fantasy a dishonest album in some way?

Its always going to be 80 percent, at least, what I want to give, and 20 percent fulfilling a perception. If you walk into an old mans house, theyre not giving nothing. Theyre at 100 percent exactly what they want to do. I would hear stories about Steve Jobs and feel like he was at 100 percent exactly what he wanted to do, but Im sure even a Steve Jobs has compromised. Even a Rick Owens has compromised. You know, even a Kanye West has compromised. Sometimes you dont even know when youre being compromised till after the fact, and thats what you regret.

I dont want to come off dissing Dark Fantasy. Its me never being satisfied and then me coming and admitting and saying the truth. As much as I can air things out for other people, to air things out for myself, to say, I feel like this couldve been stronger.

Its interesting to think of that album as compromise, when it follows 808s & Heartbreak, which seemed very clearly to be the moment where youre like, O.K., forget everything thats been expected of me.

Yeah, people asked me to change my name for that album.

Like, label people?

Yeah, different people. They said, Do it under a different name. And when it came out, people used to be like, Man, I wish it had more rapping on it. But I think the fact that I cant sing that well is what makes 808s so special.

A fully trained professional singer couldnt have done that record. It just wouldnt have ever come out that way.

Yeah. I love the fact that Im bad at , you know what Im saying? Im forever the 35-year-old 5-year-old. Im forever the 5-year-old of something.

A lot happened between Graduation and 808s, obviously: a lot of struggle, a lot of tough things for you.

Creative output, you know, is just pain. Im going to be clich for a minute and say that great art comes from pain. But also Id say a bigger statement than that is: Great art comes from great artists. Theres a bunch of people that are hurt that still couldnt have made the album that was super-polarizing and redefined the sound of radio.

Do you feel like 808s is the album of yours that has had the most impact?

There are people who have figured out the exact, you know, Kanye West formula, the mix between Graduation and 808s, and were able to become more successful at it. Stronger was the first, like, dance-rap song that resonated to that level, and then 808s was the first album of that kind, you know? It was the first, like, black new wave album. I didnt realize I was new wave until this project. Thus my connection with Peter Saville, with Raf Simons, with high-end fashion, with minor chords. I hadnt heard new wave! But I am a black new wave artist.

Was singing always something you wanted to do?

I just dove more into rapping because I had a lot that I wanted to express, and I wasnt a really, really good singer.

Even though you had always wanted to be out in front, was there ever a point where you valued your anonymity?

Yeah, I held on to the last moments of it. I knew when I wrote the line light-skinned friend look like Michael Jackson I was going to be a big star. At the time, they used to have the Virgin music , and I would go there and just go up the escalator and say to myself, Im soaking in these last moments of anonymity. I knew I was going to make it this far; I knew that this was going to happen.

But producting happened for you first, especially after Jay-Z used you so heavily on The Blueprint.

I used to have tracks that sounded like Timbaland; I had tracks that sounded like . But Jay-Z was an amazing communicator that made the soul sound extremely popular. And because I could make the soul sound in my sleep, it finally gave me a platform to put the message that my parents put inside of me and that Dead Prez helped to get out of me and Mos Def and Kweli, they helped to get out of me: I was able to put it, sloppily rap it, on top of the platform that Jay-Z had created for me.

Before, when I wanted to rap, my raps sounded like a bit like Camron; they sounded a bit like Mase; they sounded a bit like Jay-Z or whoever. And it wasnt until I hung out with Dead Prez and understood how to make, you know, raps with a message sound cool that I was able to just write All Falls Down in 15 minutes.

Is that true?

Yeah, thats how I discovered my style. I was just hanging out with them all the time in New York. I would produce for them. You know, I was able to slip past everything with a pink polo, but I am Dead Prez. And now, because I was able to slip past, I have a responsibility at all times.

What were the things that you were trying to do on Late Registration that you either did not or could not yet do on Dropout?

I was trying to do different things with orchestras. It was just a vibe that I was trying to get at, a sound I was trying to mix with hip-hop to try to see how far I could expand it. I guess that was a Chicago thing, like Quincy Jones.

But you came here, you worked with Jon Brion .

I really liked the sound of some projects that Jon Brion had worked on. I was always considered this crazy hothead kid, but I would always just go and just really break bread with someone who I respected. I will completely bow to anybody I respect.

That era also includes what I find probably the most moving thing that youve ever done, which is calling out President Bush at the Hurricane Katrina telethon. To me, that moment is actually the peak of putting a message in a pop format, even though its not a song.

Yeah. I guess its a very pop moment of a lifetime or generation. I mean, my dads generation is a generation of messaging, you know? But thats just a piece of me being the opinionated individual that I am.

Were you conscious that thats what you were doing, or was it totally just instinct?

Yeah, it was pretty bugged out. When you think about it, I was wearing like, a Juicy Couture mens polo shirt. We werent there, like, ready for war.

I wonder if you see things in a more race-aware way now, later in your career, than you did then. The intensity of the feelings on Watch the Throne is much sharper.

No, its just being able to articulate yourself better. All Falls Down is the same . I mean, I am my fathers son. Im my mothers child. Thats how I was raised. I am in the lineage of Gil Scott-Heron, great activist-type artists. But Im also in the lineage of a Miles Davis you know, that liked nice things also.

On Throne, whos in a darker mood on that record, you or Jay-Z?

Im always the one thats in a darker mood. And then also there was still a thing where I didnt feel comfortable, you know, going out on tour, the this, the that all that by myself, yet. Like, I needed

A buffer, kind of.

I needed to connect with Jay.

Part of it was you wanting to have someone standing next to you and say, Hes cool. Yes cool.

Yeah, even with the kilt on.

Public Versus Private

You look at Jay or Diddy, and Id say like, 90 percent of the time, you think theyre having a good time. With you, I would say, I dont know, 50-50 maybe? Or 30-70?

Maybe 90 percent of the time it looks like Im not having a good time.

But youre in a very public relationship, a seemingly long and satisfying relationship: youre about to have a child.

Any woman that youre in love with or that loves you is going to command a certain amount of, you know, energy. Its actually easier to focus, in some ways.

When youre uncertain about love, it can be such a distraction. It infects all the other areas.

Yeah, thats what I mean when I say like, Yo, Im going to be super Zenned out like, five years from now. Im the type of rock star that likes to have a girlfriend, you know? Im the type of soul that likes to be in love and likes to be able to focus. And that inspires me.

On Keeping Up With the Kardashians, theres a really affectionate scene where you go and help Kim sort through her clothes.

That was from a place of love. Its hard when people read things in a lot of different ways. You know, the amount of backlash I got from it is when I decided to not be on the show anymore. And its not that I have an issue with the show; I just have an issue with the amount of backlash that I get. Because I just see like, an amazing person that Im in love with that I want to help.

Did you think differently about family after your mother passed?

Yeah, because my mother was you know, I have family, but I was with my mother 80 percent of the time. My mom was basically

Was your family.

Yeah, thats all I have to say about that.

What thoughts do you have about parenthood?

That is a really interesting, powerful question. One of the things was just to be protective, that I would do anything to protect my child or my childs mother. As simple as that.

Have you ever felt as fiercely protective over anything as you are feeling now about those things?

I dont want to explain too much into what my thoughts on, you know, fatherhood are, because Ive not fully developed those thoughts yet. I dont have a kid yet.

You havent experienced it yet.

Yeah. Well, I just dont want to talk to America about my family. Like, this is my baby. This isnt Americas baby.

Birthing Yeezus

One of the things I thought when I heard the new record was, This is the anti-'College Dropout. It feels like youre shedding skin. Back then, you were like: I want more sounds. I want more complicated raps. I want all the things. At what point did that change?

Architecture you know, this one Corbusier lamp was like, my greatest inspiration. I lived in Paris in this loft space and recorded in my living room, and it just had the worst acoustics possible, but also the songs had to be super simple, because if you turned up some complicated sound and a track with too much bass, its not going to work in that space. This is earlier this year. I would go to museums and just like, the Louvre would have a furniture exhibit, and I visited it like, five times, even privately. And I would go see actual Corbusier homes in real life and just talk about, you know, why did they design it? They did like, the biggest glass panes that had ever been done. Like I say, Im a minimalist in a rappers body. Its cool to bring all those vibes and then eventually come back to Rick , because I would always think about Def Jam.

His records did used to say reduced by Rick Rubin.

For him, its really just inside of him. Im still just a kid learning about minimalism, and hes a master of it. Its just really such a blessing, to be able to work with him. I want to say that after working with Rick, it humbled me to realize why I hadnt even though I produced Watch the Throne; even though I produced Dark Fantasy why I hadnt won Album of the Year yet.

This album is moments that I havent done before, like just my voice and drums. What people call a rant but put it next to just a drumbeat, and it cuts to the level of, like, Run-D.M.C. or KRS-One. The last record I can remember and Im going to name records that youll think are cheesy but like, J-Kwon, Tipsy. People would think thats like a lower-quality, less intellectual form of hip-hop, but thats always my No. 1. Theres no opera sounds on this new album, you know what I mean? Its just like, super low-bit. Im still, like, slightly a snob, but I completely removed my snob heaven songs; I just removed them altogether.

On this album, the way that it emphasizes bass and texture, youre privileging the body, and thats not snobby.

Yeah, its like trap and drill and house. I knew that I wanted to have a deep Chicago influence on this album, and I would listen to like, old Chicago house. I think that even Black Skinhead could border on house, On Sight sounds like acid house, and then I Am a God obviously sounds, like, super house.

Visceral.

Yeah, visceral, tribal. Im just trying to cut away all the you know, its even like what we talk about with clothing and fashion, that sometimes all that gets in the way. You even see the way I dress now is so super straight.

Does it take you less time to get dressed now than it did five years ago?

Hell, yeah.

You look at your outfits from five or seven years ago, and its like

Yeah, kill self. Thats all I have to say. Kill self.

One of the things that youve thrived on over the years is sort of a self-conception as an outsider, that youre fighting your way in. Do you still, in this moment, feel like that?

No, I dont think I feel like that anymore. I feel like I dont want to be inside anymore. Like, I uninvited myself.

What changed?

I think just more actual self-realization and self-belief. The longer your gevity is, the more confidence you build. The idea of Kanye and vanity are like, synonymous. But Ive put myself in a lot of places where a vain person wouldnt put themselves in. Like whats vanity about wearing a kilt?

But theres vanity in fashion. You make clothes, but some people think its a vanity project, that you dont take it seriously.

But the passion is for humanity. The passion is for people. The passion is for the 18-year-old version of myself. The passion is for the kids at my shows. I need to do more. I need to be able to give people more of what they want that currently is behind a glass. I dont believe that its luxury to go into a store and not be able to afford something. I believe luxury is to be able to go into a store and be able to afford something.

I sat down with a clothing guy that I wont mention, but hopefully if he reads this article, he knows its him and knows that out of respect, I didnt mention his name: this guy, he questioned me before I left his office:, If youve done this, this, and this, why havent you gone further in fashion? And I say, Im learning. But ultimately, this guy that was talking to me doesnt make Christmas presents, meaning that nobody was asking for his as a Christmas present. If you dont make Christmas presents, meaning making something thats so emotionally connected to people, dont talk to me.

But at the same time, this feels like the Grammy conversation, because what I keep thinking is: the people whose hands youre trying to shake, they may control certain corridors of power, but those arent even the relevant corridors of power anymore.

Im a professional musician because I have the structure of Universal Records. Im a professional creative. Since I did the Louis Vuitton sneaker, Ive never been allowed to be in a continually creative structured place that makes product. Ive had meetings where a guy actually told me, What were trying to figure out is how we can control you. In the meeting, to me! Why do you want to control me? Like, I want the world to be better! All I want is positive! All I want is dopeness! Why would you want to control that?

Thats why I said I throw these Maybach keys . I would rather sit in a factory than sit in a Maybach.

I want to tell people, I can create more for this world, and Ive hit the glass ceiling. If I dont scream, if I dont say something, then no ones going to say anything, you know? So I come to them and say, Dude, talk to me! Respect me!

Respect my trendsetting.

Yeah, respect my trendsetting abilities. Once that happens, everyone wins. The world wins; fresh kids win; creatives win; the company wins.

I think what Kanye West is going to mean is something similar to what Steve Jobs means. I am undoubtedly, you know, Steve of Internet, downtown, fashion, culture. Period. By a long jump. I honestly feel that because Steve has passed, you know, its like when Biggie passed and Jay-Z was allowed to become Jay-Z.

Ive been connected to the most culturally important albums of the past four years, the most influential artists of the past ten years. You have like, Steve Jobs, Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, Nicolas Ghesquire, Anna Wintour, David Stern.

I think thats a responsibility that I have, to push possibilities, to show people: This is the level that things could be at. So when you get something that has the name Kanye West on it, its supposed to be pushing the furthest possibilities. I will be the leader of a company that ends up being worth billions of dollars, because I got the answers. I understand culture. I am the nucleus.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  
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136. "ye been doing some reading"
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happy to hear such a refreshed, unbitter kanye

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137. "Those that are loving this Ye album, have you heard the Niggy Tardust LP..."
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The album Saul Williams made with Trent Reznor (NIN). If you haven't, check it out and let me know what you think.

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140. "RE: Those that are loving this Ye album, have you heard the Niggy Tardus..."
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I love niggy tardust and most things el-p. actually after watching the SNL performance of black skinhead my girlfriend made the saul comparison and I agree thats its spot on to that song at least. I am definitely hoping that the rest of this album is along those lines, and I never thought a ye album would be along those lines haha. if you have any other albums like that - industrial hip hop, feel free to list them.

  
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143. "good look, gunna check this out"
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145. "I love that album"
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Thats the album I'll listen on my way to work tomorrow

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150. "Solid but bloated."
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More Trent's fault, seems whenever there's an option for MORE he will pile on as much as possible.

That last track tho...woah.

  
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151. "RE: Solid but bloated."
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>More Trent's fault, seems whenever there's an option for MORE
>he will pile on as much as possible.
>
>That last track tho...woah.

the last track on the original or when they added the unnecessary bonus material?

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169. "when I say Niggy, you say nothin........ Niggy!......Nothin!"
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I saw Saul perform that whole album live a few years ago.
Dude walked on stage wearing an Indian warrior chief outfit blended with Marilyn Manson type make-up. He goes...... innnnn.
Its obvious that Saul studied drama at NYU school of arts.
I'd say that the 1st track "Black History Month" destroys any attempt Kanye is trying to make at sounding industrial.

  
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146. "sonically it sounds insane loud"
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'i am god' is a bit grating since it will be taken out of context, but crazy ass song
"new slaves" is the weakest track i heard on their
its crazy that he found a way to put charlie wilson on here
"on sight" "bound" are pretty strong
only heard it once all the way through @ the listening session.

  
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158. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion]"
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please read my newest piece on the huffington post
like and share even if u hate it
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fire/kanye-west-yeezus_b_3429948.html

The mainstream rap music game may once again be returning to the church of black empowerment via its newly self-ordained minister, Reverend Kanye West. After years of rap music struggling in the muck and mire of misogyny and money, one of the greatest rappers ever has had it up to here with the 'New Slavery' of commercialism, materialism and hedonism. I cannot think of a voice more prepared to enact a radical sea change in black music than one of the main perpetrators of the aforementioned materialism and misogyny. Hallelujah.

A few weeks ago Kanye performed two new songs, "Black Skinhead" and "New Slaves" on Saturday Night Live. One day prior to the performance, he simultaneously projected the video for "New Slaves" onto the facades of 66 buildings in six different countries. The titles and lyrics of these songs have had the Internet buzzing for weeks, with hopes that he will help return black music listeners to their musical revolutionary roots. For too long, our ears have wallowed in an unhealthy aural hedonism that has benefited no one but the large multi-national corporations peddling it. There was a time when the entire nation mobilized for rights and freedoms simply because Marvin Gaye and Curtis Mayfield crooned them into doing so. In 2013, rap music mostly only propels us to stand in line for 48 hours to purchase a pair of Michael Jordan tennis shoes. Only to be murdered for these sneakers 48 hours later, during a robbery. Current rap music dictates freedom (financial), yet manages to keep its listeners chained to a mentality that does nothing to cultivate the listener to individual or communal growth, blaspheming the hip hop gods.

A cynical burden is cultivated in the psyche of young black people that grew up in America listening to the gospel of James Cleveland, the funk of Rick James and the native tongues of A Tribe Called Quest. This cynicism was developed with the knowledge that our ancestors were traumatized by the effects of slavery and racism. In spite of our legacy of pain, we are able to "make it in America." The odds were stacked against us, but our ancestor's strides during the civil rights era swayed many of those odds in our financial freedom's favor. The birth of rap music was a byproduct of the civil rights era. It took us places and bought us things the soul singers of Motown dreamed of. Rap music has also made us so rich that we have conveniently forgotten we still need to overcome.

"New Slaves'" lyrics are only controversial to those blacks who think electing an African-American into the White House has removed us from the last 400 years of oppression. The lyrics are not narcissistic, posturing or arrogant, nor are they being spouted as rhetoric. The previews for his new album Yeezus not only display the evolution of a man and his music, but show the result of a black Generation X'er coming to an epiphany: In no way, shape or form are African-Americans in the Diaspora equal to their white counterparts. We may, in fact, have reverted to a position worse than that of our parents and grandparents. We are under the impression that the money, houses and jobs we have acquired are without consequence. The consequence is perpetual debt and the miseducation of youth who have all but forgotten what their ancestors suffered through in order for them to be free.

Kanye is a 70s child born from black power afros but raised in electronic funk backed by the heavy rhythms of revolutionary, fight the power hip hop. Our generation has viewed the racism enacted against our parents along with the 'one step away from 'sharecropper oppression' against our grandparents through dual lenses. Our oppressed relatives used the audacity of hope to fill our heads with dreams of middle class sugar plums before tucking us into our suburban Montgomery Ward twin beds at night. Yet, they raised us with caution and awareness that no matter how far we "make it"; we are still black in a country built on the genocide of our people.

The difference between Kanye and wax revolutionaries Chuck D and KRS One is that he has been accepted into the inner circle of pop culture. He has amazingly done this without being viewed as a 'sellout.' This impossible feat took place soon after the spontaneous and truthful "George Bush does not care about black people" line that he spouted during the Hurricane Katrina telethon. Kanye had fooled the moneyed, imperialistic corporate people into thinking he is going to be a well-behaved, go along with it Uncle Tom, until that poignant moment in time when he showed his true color(s).

There is a nation of potential genius music leaders like West existing in America. Stevie Wonder is one that comes to mind. The glaring difference between these two is that Mister West is privy to all the wonderment of black music, including rap. Kanye is a son of hip hop. Stevie wonder is the do better, love everyone and save the world soul man. Kanye has soul, but it has morphed into an 'I don't give a f***' attitude that is an amalgamation of every road paved by American black music artists before it. He is now at a crossroads. His path could be the easy 'please everyone' route chosen by Michael Jackson, (which inevitably led to his 'early' death). Or, he can own this moment. His lyrical content seems to be rife with material that accompanies adulthood and fatherhood knowing that his race has and will affect every moment in his life no matter how rich and famous he becomes.

It is beautiful to witness the artistic evolution of a human being. For hip hop fans, we have the pleasure of watching Kanye West being born on earth again from the comfort of our armchairs and keyboards. This birth has been nothing but figurative, his mother did all the hard work. We have been able to experience the fluffy cheeked toddler goodness of his debut and his awkward, adolescent college dropout musical stages. Kanye breathed new life and energy into the house of hip hop. Now the time has come for him to breathe new life into his people via his music. West is the dream of Martin Luther King influenced by the funk of George Clinton and raised by the black power fists of the sonic anarchists Public Enemy. If Jay-Z were not the greatest rapper of all time, I could almost pretend that Rocafella Records only existed to lead us to the rap music savior, Yeezus.

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159. "I see U...."
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Fire, fire......

Props.....

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160. "good stuff Fire!"
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162. "Get 'em girl"
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168. "Only complaint is..."
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please don't call Jordans 'tennis shoes.'

Other than that, A+ and a round of applause.

  
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170. "this whole article is bullshit and a half"
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but you can still get your bathwater drank by me any day of the week, tho

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cgonz00cc
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173. "my eyes just rolled so hard I can see my brain"
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312. "LOL @ the breakdown of "New Slaves""
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Not arrogant? It's a bunch of contrived bullshit written by someone increasingly detached from the experience he's writing about. It's a more crass, more brash version of "Mr Nigga," which was essentially a throwaway cut off a record 15 years ago. That's supposed to be edgy? Totally unimaginative stuff, it makes me sad to think smart people are still pushing the cultural currency of rappers doing late-ass stuff like this. It's sad that this is being called an "epiphany," frankly it's kind of insulting to the many, many people out there doing real work furthering the understanding of race and race relations.

More to the point, the lyrics are just acrid. That bit with "Hampton" in every line had me retching for sure.

There are a couple of songs that go kind of hard on the record, but I'm definitely not ready to give this dude the adulation he wants off this. Some of his records in the past have shown some flashes of things going where he wants to take them, but this whole album feels like a whiff to me.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  
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417. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion]"
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Girl stop.

  
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murph71
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163. ""
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Let's keep the Kanye party going....lol


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VIBE Exclusive: dead prezs M-1 Reacts To Kanye's NYT Shout-Out: I Consider Myself A Peer

http://www.vibe.com/article/v-exclusive-dead-prezs-m-1-reacts-kanyes-nyt-shout-out-i-consider-myself-peer

It seems like you cant escape Kanye West these days. From his tabloid wet dream relationship with soon-to-be baby mother Kim Kardashian to the deafening hype surrounding his upcoming release Yeezus, due out June 18th, the man seems to be on everyones mind. Its a point made during a recent interview with The New York Times in which West declared that he is, the Michael Jordan of music, among other monster quotes. But far-out hubris aside, one part of the sit-down that caught many by surprise was his heartfelt shot out to revolutionary rhyme act dead prez.

According to West, the uncompromising duo of stic.man and M-1 have had a huge impact on his more socially conscious, rebellious work. Before, when I wanted to rap, my raps sounded like a bit like Camron; they sounded a bit like Mase; they sounded a bit like Jay-Z or whoever. And it wasnt until I hung out with Dead Prez and understood how to make, you know, raps with a message sound cool that I was able to just write All Falls Down in 15 minutes, he said of the critically-acclaimed group.

When VIBE caught up with M-1, the two-fisted MC was gracious in his reaction to Wests unmitigated praise, which also included the rapper/producer recalling, I was just hanging out with them all the time in New York. I would produce for them. You know, I was able to slip past everything with a pink polo, but I am dead prez. And now, because I was able to slip past, I have a responsibility at all times. Read on.Keith Murphy (@murphdogg29)

VIBE: What was your reaction to Kanye West saying that dead prez stands as one of his biggest artistic influences?

M-1: Hearing Kanye say that about dead prez is like man sharpens man, steel sharpens steel. I consider myself a peer of Kanye. I respect his ear because he listens to the music that I listen to. He listens to Curtis Mayfield; he listens to Michael Jackson; he listens to Bob Marley; he listens to Roberta Flack. I know this because Ive heard him play these records in front of me.

What are your memories of being in the studio with West?

Weve spent hours and hours together. Kanye would always let *stic man and I* hear brand new tracks that he would make and raps that he would make. More than anything, Im so happy to know that that can happen today because sometimes artists feel like they are on their own island and they are isolated and nobody is in their lane. A lot of people dont know, but Kanye produced Still Bigger Than Hip-Hop, which was the remix on our first album Lets Get Free (2000). I have to remind people that thats how far back Ive been a fan of what he does.

Are you looking forward to hearing Wests new album, Yeezus?

YesI think Kanye always pushes the envelope when it comes to the style of his music. Hes always pushing himself to find that place. I love his unquenched, eternal search for who he is no matter how egotistical it may be.

Indeed, where would Kanye be without his ego?

Well, we all have an ego. I just respect his drive to share that skin and new layer.

Can we talk about new music? What are you currently working on?

Definitely look out for the new A-Alikes single Whole Lifethats a really good single and video. They (Ness and K) are RBG family, so look out for that. And theres an album coming out called The Midnight Man that I did with Brian Jackson whos the partner for Gil Scott-Heron. Its a tribute album to Gil Scott. He is everything to dead prez. He taught us how to combine sharp wit and criticism around with being politically astute. I started working on that with him before he passed. The first single is slated to be released in about two weeks and its called Hold On. The album features eight songs from me, two songs from dead prez, one from Nas, one from Killah Priest, and more.

Wow, that sounds inspiring. How does it feel being connected to such an icon like Gil Scott-Heron?

I jumped at the opportunity to do it. I would have done it before hand but I was waiting in line. This is a good record. All the original Midnight Band stuff that Brian brought with Gil-Scott is there, but revamped. We are playing a few jazz festivals as wellthe Montreux Jazz Festival, the Jazz la Villette in ParisIm going to be one of the frontmen for some of the best musicians that came through that jazz-soul-funk revolutionary music. Im blessed to be working with them.

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175. "Nice"
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164. "confirmed tracklist? (via 2dopeboyz)"
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http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2013/06/12/kanye-west-yeezus-tracklist/

they got word from some Swedish retail site:
http://cdon.se/musik/west_kanye/yeezus-23831798

1. On Site
2. Black Skinhead
3. I Am A God f. God
4. New Slaves f. Frank Ocean
5. Hold My Liquor f. Chief Keef & Justin Vernon (of Bon Iver)
6. I’m In It
7. Blood On The Leaves
8. Guilt Trip f. Travi$ Scott
9. Send It Up (Feat. King L)
10. Bound f. Charlie Wilson

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174. "I keep checking this thread to see if it leaked yet"
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all these damn replies and the album aint drop yet.

  
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178. "RE: I keep checking this thread to see if it leaked yet"
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I'm doing the same thing.

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176. "i am god"
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http://www.kanyewest.com/

  
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179. "How has this not leaked yet?"
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Are we sure this shit isn't getting pushed back?

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181. "may treat it like WWT"
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came out digitally first so there wasnt a chance for it to leak

  
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185. "it should leak tonight or tomorrow. people already got it."
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187. "Im thinking they put up a stream for some critics..."
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I don't quite understand how it hasn't leaked unless they haven't even started printing it yet.

  
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188. "yea like is he overnighting the delievry? "
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do he got the people at the plants buttnaked when handling his cd like Nino Brown.

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189. "I thought Itunes was the 18th, physical after"
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which is pretty much the ONLY way to stop a pre-leak nowadays (assuming itunes doesn't accidentally put it up early, which they've done before)

  
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190. "That's how they did Throne"
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184. "A list of the samples used, straight from the sticker on the case"
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http://i43.tinypic.com/3536zia.jpg


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274. "In case that sticker is too hard to read"
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here's some of the samples here: http://prettymuchamazing.com/feature/kanye-wests-yeezus-the-samples

  
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275. "So Black Skinhead isn't a sample of Beautiful People?"
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He may as well have sampled it, it's obvious that's what he was going for.






















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290. "It reminded me more of Gary Glitter's "Rock'N'Roll Part II" or..."
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...Cut Chemist's "Lesson 6" more than it did "Beautiful People". At least for *me*.


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291. "Yea now that I'm hearing it I get that vibe too."
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I couldn't think of the title but, yep, Gary Glitter. I wouldn't think Manson at all but I'm really not even linking this to a lot of industrial stuff like some other people are. I'm not even hearing the Death Grips (granted, I don't listen to much Death Grips).



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186. "Not feeling the new direction, and not buying into the anti-hype"
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The minimalist style, lack of a promo campaign, etc.....Yet he still has a laundry list of contributors to achieve a bare bones soundscape? The world wide video projections on buildings, ny times interviews. It's all a contrived attempt to convince us that the music is supposed to outshine the man.

But that hasn't been the case for a few years now. Mark my words...in a mere 12 months, this project will likely be the least revered of his entire catalog.

The smoke will clear and then we can hear.

  
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195. "^^^this is why the lesson...and hiphop fandom...is dead"
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southphillyman
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193. "does this album have a single?"
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i don't listen to the radio so maybe it's getting hyped there iono
but i haven't heard a song from this album since i clicked the SNL vid link a couple weeks ago
haven't heard it in any clubs/lounges,cars, stores, or commercials (nba finals etc)
there isn't even a "kanye said fuck ____" type publicity stunt for this album
is this on purpose or is the material THAT in your face to the point they can't really market it?

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Oak27
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194. "no single, no promo, no marketing campaign. all on purpose."
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GROOVEPHI
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196. "Ppl on FB saying it leaked and RGF is down "
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Nm

  
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CMcMurtry
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197. "Well, it leaked"
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___________________________
OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  
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Cynthia_Rose
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198. "Yeezus did it again. @@@@"
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Now, lets see who follows

  
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199. "inbox"
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https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

  
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Brougham 2334
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202. "RE: inbox"
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same here

  
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ChampD1012
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203. "Inbox please..."
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The Mac
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247. "RE: inbox"
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inbox please!!

Cause I'm doing better now, don't mean I never lost shit/ I was married to a state of mind and I divorced it -- Black Thought

  
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hardware
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200. "is that Assassin on "I'm in it"?"
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brown sugar
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201. "Yeezus (****) -- pure heat."
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<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  
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Apollo Kid
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204. "I'M IN IT GETS TOO SERIOUS"
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Frobert
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205. "It's not the noisy, angry, Death Grips-ian album I was promised"
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Can't help but being a little disappointed by that. On second listen, it sounds pretty good musically though

  
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Menphyel7
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206. "group rip out "
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


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Melanism
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207. "If this is Kanye without outside influence, he needs to go outside."
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2Future4U
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208. "stream"
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http://soundisstyle.com/2013/06/kanye-west-yeezus-album-stream.html

https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."

PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like

  
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rymega
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209. "Blood on the Leaves is dope AF"
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Who woulda thought a Billie Holiday sample over a No Limit beat would be so awesome.

  
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212. "RE: Blood on the Leaves is wack AF"
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that autotune is so damn played out
Ye should just get some vocal lessons ( because it seems like he can almost hold a tune if he TRIED )

so far not impressive

I Am A God has great production but the rapping doesnt cut it for me

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Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

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485. "that's Nina Simone's version of it. It is incredible tho."
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>Who woulda thought a Billie Holiday sample over a No Limit
>beat would be so awesome.

  
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Oak27
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211. "Fire^OK, can we at least get a new thread for the album discussion?"
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This one was already 200+ before the album even leaked.

  
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220. "nah, this post deserves to go diamond"
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226. "i take my threads like i take my dicks"
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big

  
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GROOVEPHI
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213. "I am a God rocking "
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Nm

  
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214. "welp at least he made it only 10 songs "
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makes it easier to fast forward on alot of these tracks

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Kosa12
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215. "i really want to wait until it actually comes out "
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but the temptation is strong...

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Oak27
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216. "Well, it's better than 808s!"
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Just trying to look at it positively.

  
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217. "Im no hip-hop conoisseur but it sounds pretty dope to me"
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218. "Despite my appreciation of Kanye always looking forward"
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Hearing "Bound" made me smile, laugh and feel so damn happy. Ye over a soulful, vocal sample beat will always be the perfect marriage. That shot transported me to 2004 for a second.

  
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219. "im in it"
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yeah

  
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222. "Yeah."
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Just finished my first listen, I loved some tracks and felt indifferent about others, but "Bound" was the highlight for me...perfect way to end a Kanye album.

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223. "easily my favorite song on the album"
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i'm sure some of the other ones will grow on me at some point.

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233. "The question is... how the fuck did that make the album?!"
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Not because it's bad, but just because it doesn't fit sylistically... at all.

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246. "I think it's a soft spot for him."
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Even on Graduation, he had "The Glory."

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255. "that's why he called it "Bound 2" he will always be bound 2"
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soul samples and bound 2 yall niggaz who always want that soulful college dropout kanye in a way.

No matter how far he goes somewhere deep inside he its in there he can do it in his sleep so it doesn't challange him.

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512. "maybe he's paying homage to Large Pro (link)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibqb84ObXxA

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345. "Bound 2 is a my favorite song on Yeezus by far..."
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221. "gunna bang this shit proper during my bubble bath tonight"
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227. "all of this"
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Oak27
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224. "5 out of 10; "Black Skinhead" and "Bound 2" I really like"
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"New Slaves" is solid until that beat switch and outro for the last 1+ minute. "Hold My Liquor" through "Send It Up" is a complete mess and saved only by some cool production. Don't care for the 808s & Heartbreak era Kanye that floods that part of the album at all.

I really wish he rapped on "Blood on the Leaves" and "Guilt Trip" rather than sang/autotuned.

This is like a 5 out of 10. Could bump it to a 6 if something moves me on further listens. REALLY disappointed. My least favorite Kanye album besides 808.

  
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CB_010
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225. "I AM A GOD tho!! this disc's gonna get some spins"
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They're gonna know that im in the streets

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228. "Damn Yeezy how'd you do it haaanh?"
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Dude cannot lose.
And he threw yall a bone w/ Bound too lol.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  
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229. "not messin' with it at all."
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This joint is wack. Is he too good now for rappin' and makin' beats?

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231. "My review"
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From my website:
http://www.thisisbooksmusic.com/2013/06/14/review-kanye-west-yeezus/

==begin swipe==
If anything, Yeezus (Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam) is about questioning. Is it social commentary? Is it a personal reflection? Is it more? Yes, yes, and yes. But maybeno.

The album seems to be designed in the old school vinyl way, with two distinct sides, two distinct feels and vibes. There are lots of personal references that he makes, everything from his relationship with Kim Kardashian to the public perception of it, and why it shouldnt matter to anyone. For those who think it matters to them, why amplify things? As far as calling the album Yeezus as a sly way of saying he is a Jesus figure, he explains himself a bit, both directly and in metaphors. In a way, people threw a fit when Ol Dirty Bastard was going to call his album The Black Man Is God. On this album, West says that he believes in a most high, respects a higher power, but why cant someone like him be deserving of praise or accolades, or is the issue that someone deserving of praise or accolades is someone like him? In many ways, while he is staring at his own reflection, he is also turning the mirror on his listeners, the general public, the entire world. What makes us think we are higher than the next man, what makes us think we are holier than someone with respect, and why do we praise the holy and not the scum of the Earth? Who is the true scum of the Earth?

Musically, the album goes everywhere from having tracks co-produced with Daft Punk to traditional hip-hop tracks, and even bouncing back to the world he created with 808′s And Heartbreaks, complete with Auto-Tune abuse. One can ask if the Auto-Tune is meant to hide the emotion that he places in these songs, or is it just an open door to come in to find out whats really going on? I read a tweet in passing which asked if West is trying to outdo Daft Punk with these songs, but how can that happen when Daft Punk themselves produced some of it? This may be his trip into the world of electronica, EDM, or dubstep, but he has never been shy from stepping into perceived foreign territory. In fact, I found the Daft Punk tracks to be a bit of a throwback to what Anti-Pop Consortium were known for, deep and trippy basement tracks with massive bursts of everything.

The structure of the album is interesting, because while there are some parts where the lyrical themes seem to drift away from its initial intention, the music is very much the glue that keeps everything together. Some tracks arent just one style throughout, they will change up one or two times before the end of the song, so it seems West and/or his producers are in tap with the power of progressive rock and how those bands have worked for over 40 years. The use of three seconds of King Crimsons 21st Century Schizoid Man in Power may or may not have influenced West to try things out a bit more, but I like how it worked. By sampling an eclectic range of music throughout the album, everyone from Brenda Lee to The Holy Name of Mary Choral Family, he is establishing paths that will take the listener from one place to another, perhaps on a bumpy ride, or merely catering to listeners who understand the power of digging up atypical material as a means to tell/share a story.

Is West the untouchable man of hip-hop, the Michael Jackson or Michael Jordan of hip-hop? Or is he the mysterious devil as shown on the cover of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy? Is this album a way to utilize The Rolling Stones lyric I shouted out who killed the Kennedys?, when after all it was you and me, as a means to address his concerns? If so, isnt he essentially stating what INXS once said, in that every single one of us has the devil inside? In other words, what West is doing is addressing all of the attacks he has been given, just because he is an artist with a lot of respect and ridicule. The respect will keep him going, and Im sure he is humbled by that even though he may not address it in the most direct way. By calling the album Yeezus, one might say that he was throwing fire onto himself, when perhaps what he was doing was turning the fire hose on everyone.

As for his means of promoting the album by not promoting it, I think West knew and expected that when you are a mainstream artist, sometimes you can allow the public to do it for you. Is it hype, is it anti-hype, or is he being anti- anti-? Him promoting the album in a very minimalistic way was his way of starting word of mouth, and that worked. In the end, Yeezus may not be a completely brilliant album like Late Registration or My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy were, but the album is a way to not only hear his latest creation, but for it to be another piece of the puzzle that has become the spectacle of the rapper many have chosen to praise, more than someone who may deserve simple props or a dap.
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232. "Late REGISTRATION** (You wrote Late Graduation in last paragraph)"
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234. "Thank you for catching that. Fixing now."
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238. "quick review"
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1. On Sight - I wish Daft Punk did something more than this repetitive shit; it just comes off as lazy to me. Same ol Kanye braggadocio rhymes

2. Black Skinhead - If it wasnt for the title, this should have been the lead single. Daft Punk jacks Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor and turns it out. My only complaint is the vocal delivery lacks in intensity ( rhymes are nice ) of the live debut ( but I guess that's a good thing for people going to see his tour for this album )

3. I Am A God - This is the lynchpin for the album, holds everything together musically and thematically..lyrically its nothing and the screaming doesn't do it either. the little changeup at the end is nice

4. New Slaves - Finally Kanye has something to say thats actually worth paying attention to. He just rapped his whole Modus Operandi and does it quite nice. When Kanye actually puts some work in, he can actually put up some nice rhymes. Didnt like the changeup at the end

5. Hold My Liquor - sounds like a Kid Cudi / Ratatat song..ehh

6. I'm In It - sounds like a pitched down La Roux after the beat change up, that girl saying "oh" is annoying and the doubled up screwed backing vocal is not cracking. Song is okay

7. Blood On The Leaves - this could have been WAY WAY better if Kanye just dropped the autotune. Im sure Ye can hold a tune, but this comes across as a rehash, instead of being an "artist" that he claims to be and that many of you claim he is, he is just serving ya'll essentially the same product from older albums

8. Guilt Trip - I like the Steve Miller Band "Fly Like An Eagle" interpolation..but other than that ^^^^^ see above

9. Send It Up - More like throw it in the trash. Could have been better with that alarm / synth sound, the drum beat is ho hum

10.Bound - Mr West stays serving you turkeys with these rehashed potatoes. Such a lazy loop and such a shame he's been reduced to this ( reference to Common's "The People" for a great example of Kanye and sample flippin ) of .Charlie Wilson serves as the only saving grace on this track


Overall a very average album, Kanye is just coasting on his past achievements nowadays.I get a good chuckle when he says yeah Imma do things my way, Imma artist, etc and its basically alot of his old shit plus some electronic bullshit.He previews a couple songs that are dope just to troll you and the rest is the same ol same ol. I think he is smart in creating a buzz by not doing any radio / videos and doing that street building / no CD art approach. First half is not bad, 2nd half is severely lacking and I also don't hear anything that would reflect Rick Rubin executive producing this.

5/10

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236. "So this is pretty much Kanye's /\/\ /\ Y /\?"
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237. "What the hell is that fam?"
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239. "The MIA album"
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Took me a minute to get that. I'd disagree though. That last MIA album wasn't as good.

  
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245. "RE: The MIA album"
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>Took me a minute to get that. I'd disagree though. That
>last MIA album wasn't as good.

I thought it was unfairly maligned, but I think they're similar in that they have a more abrasive, almost discordant sound to them.

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250. "Yup. it was a good album"
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>>Took me a minute to get that. I'd disagree though. That
>>last MIA album wasn't as good.
>
>I thought it was unfairly maligned, but I think they're
>similar in that they have a more abrasive, almost discordant
>sound to them.


^^all this, although id argue kanye's is more dischordant

  
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240. "NNNNNIIIIIIGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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This shit is so ill. Gonna give it another spin. Half way through my 3rd spin now.

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241. ""how you gonna be mad on vacation?""
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Bound is easily the best song on the whole thing

  
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242. "Anyone have any theories"
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why the loop on Bound was so sloppy? Almost felt like a parody.

  
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243. "the whole album is purposely raw"
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it's part of his aesthetic for this album. A lot of the songs are the album sounds rough in a way. It's pretty hit or miss in my opinion. This whole album sounds rushed.

  
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249. "sounds like Dilla/Madlib to me"
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262. "only when madlib and dilla do it..it sounds sloppy good."
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not sloppy half assed



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302. "I liked the dusty, lo-fi, off-kilter feel of it. I mean I know Kanye"
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usually gets credit for bringing in or popularizing sped-up vocals & soul-sample production but as most of us here know RZA was doing that long before him.

And when you go back to listen to 36 Chambers, a lot of that shit was sloppy as fuck intentionally or unintentionally.

I felt like 'Ye acknowledged RZA's influence with their recent collabs on their past few projects.

As a song, it sorta feels like a 'comedown' coda from the coked up, combative approach of much of the album, a little lowkey soulful treat at the end like 'The Joy' as the last bonus cut for Watch The Throne or 'Mama Loves Me' at the end of Blueprint.

  
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244. "Bound 2 is amazing!!!!"
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One of the illest kanye beats I have ever heard!

Why didn't he do more production on this album?

  
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264. "AMEN!!!!!!"
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That shit knocks hard as hell

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248. "1 listen in..."
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I like it but theres a rough section from 6-8. Picks up with the last two though.

  
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375. "RE: 1 listen in..."
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My review exactly

  
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251. "Am i the only one enjoying the autotune on blood on the leaves?"
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first listen took me back to 808s (an album i thoroughly enjoyed)

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265. "with you 100%"
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Thats one of my favorites on the album. Glad he went back to 808s on that.

  
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252. "Not bad....but sounds like Death Grips."
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253. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibqb84ObXxA

  
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270. "never heard this."
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thanks

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254. "2nd listen on good headphones was a big improvement"
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Ye'a delivery/lyrics don't fully work in about half the songs but the production is so strong I almost don't care. I'm going to need a weekend with this.

  
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256. "No kick knock, tracks run through cheap guitar pedal distortion"
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I applaud Kanye for being original but the sound quality of the beats sounds like poo poo. The only time I like clipping distortion is on a guitar. As a kid, I borrowed my dad's drum machine and experimented plugging it into my guitar distortion pedals and this sounds exactly like that. This whole album literally sounds like it was recorded as one way and then run through a cheap clipping distortion (vocals excluded, except for a couple tracks). Instead of a kick knock, you hear a clipped farting noise. Is that all Rick Rubin did?

To me, the best dirty raw beats have dirty elements, but retain clarity of the kicks and snares, instead of washing them out with dirt.

The "Im in it" joint probably has the most interesting stuff going on, because it was distorted....but not enough to ruin some of the knock and snap of the drums. But the quote at the end "I be speaking Swag-heli"....wtf?

  
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261. "you realize this is a scene version"
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Shit is compressed as hell

  
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267. "RE: you realize this is a scene version"
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You do realize that clipping distortion is not the same as compression, right? Scene version or not...I don't think there will be any difference in the actual release. All that buzz and it was pissed away on this dud of an LP.

  
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284. "no, thats not it. "
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I spoke with the Mastering engineer back when MBDTF dropped and made a similar complaint. I lowkey shitted on the work done (digital clipping rarely sounds good) but he agreed and stated its done by customer request. So on Yeezus I assume its the same reasoning.

#loudnesswars

oh well.

  
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259. "New Slaves goes hard af"
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I can see Yasiin doing his own better version tho

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266. "mos should have been on the album"
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he could have fit in many places.

  
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303. "Mos can't get around to hopping on his own record let alone Ye's"
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260. "I guess im the only one who thinks this is garbage."
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I know its been a long time since Late Registration...but damn this is what Kanye has evolved into....

I really cant understand how folks are so hype about this release..the beats are absolute garbage and Kanye is pretty much phoning it in on the lyrics.

  
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276. "RE: I guess im the only one who thinks this is garbage."
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No you aren't. I didn't enjoy it either.

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263. "this def his 808 part 2...and his most sloppy album yet"
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HE usually a perfectionist who does like 30 mixes for each song...So its crazy to think he recorded half of the vocals in like 6 hour session..and half of the sogns was done in like 2 weeks.

I like it to this is probably the rawest and most I don't give a fuck he has ever been even more than 808's.

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271. "Yeah, um... nah man. Not really feeling this"
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Dug "Black Skinhead" and "Round 2", but the rest was messy or boring. Maybe it'll get better after another listen, but this really feels like a misfire.

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272. "this actually works a lot more than i thought it would... "
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i wouldn't agree that this is a continuation of 808s at all... but i do agree that they're similar in that they're like experimental "bridge" albums.. this experiment works a lot more for me than 808s did.. i've probably given it about 5.5 listens now.. shit sounded like a mess on the first listen, albeit an intriguing mess.. def. got better and sounded more like organized chaos and more cohesive w/ more listens..

i think he took just enough of some other folks' sounds on this and had just enough "kanye" in it to make it palatable.. i like the fact that it feels sprawling and compact at the same time..

right now, it seems like "blood on the leaves" wears out its welcome just a tad.. that track seemed like the only one that was abrasive enough to make me want to skip to the next track (it's not that it was abrasive, just kind of repetitively abrasive).. i will say that the song has bothered me less w/ repeated listens.. but i can see it preventing me from playing the album all the way through when i listen to it in the future.. which is kind of what i want to do w/ this album..

i can't really say that there are songs that really "stand out" to me... the album seems like a package deal.. but i will say that i think "i'm in it" is a meeaaan track..

still not sure what to make of this album... but i do like it.. a lot, actually.. and not that i'm surprised to like a kanye album, but after 808s, i didn't really want ye to go into these diversion type albums anymore.. this shit is cool by me tho... i know the critics are already on the album's dick, but i'm really interested to see how the masses receive this one..

  
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273. "Funny how people are forcing themselves to listen to this 5+ times."
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Like, in a row.

For most music out there that sounds like this, you'd just say "this is not for me" and move the fuck on.

With Kanye West, however, you've convinced yourself that there must be some type of brilliance hidden within, and it takes multiple listens for it to "make sense."

Don't let me do a search and find you shitting on El-P's solo albums. I won't, because I don't care THAT much......but face it - a lot of you guys in here praising this shitrock for it's hard/minimal/difficult sound were nowhere to be found when El was doing this industrial sound earlier and much better.

I'm not letting this go, so don't try to play the "Kanye makes you mad" card. This dude has been feeding you over-processed bullshit for the last few years and I'm gonna keep reminding you of that.

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277. "RE: Funny how people are forcing themselves to listen to this 5+ times."
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I only listened to it once. I thought it was wack and while I was tempted to listen a few more times to not be out of the loop I figured it just wasn't worth it. I didn't even like Dark Twisted Fantasy that much so I guess it makes sense that I don't like this one.

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278. "what's wrong with that?"
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if i followed this rationale of only listening once to form an opinion,
i never would have gotten into rock, i never would have listened to any jazz,
and i still would think hip hop sucks, as a genre.


it's okay to listen to stuff multiple times i sort out how you feel about it.
sometimes, music is challenging.

i haven't heard this album yet, btw.
and yes, sometimes the emporer has no clothes.
but there's nothing wrong with wondering if an album you don't instantly like
is stretching you a bit.



>For most music out there that sounds like this, you'd just say
>"this is not for me" and move the fuck on.
>
>With Kanye West, however, you've convinced yourself that there
>must be some type of brilliance hidden within, and it takes
>multiple listens for it to "make sense."
>
>Don't let me do a search and find you shitting on El-P's solo
>albums. I won't, because I don't care THAT much......but face
>it - a lot of you guys in here praising this shitrock for it's
>hard/minimal/difficult sound were nowhere to be found when El
>was doing this industrial sound earlier and much better.
>
>I'm not letting this go, so don't try to play the "Kanye makes
>you mad" card. This dude has been feeding you over-processed
>bullshit for the last few years and I'm gonna keep reminding
>you of that.

  
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282. "Nothing at all, but that's not his point."
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He's not saying there's anything wrong with multiple listens.
He's saying alotta people here only afford certain artists that luxury,
which is why he said folks would immediately be like "this ain't for me"
if another artist came with this sound.

I do think he's right.

At the same time I understand that artists build reputations through
their past work. I think people here do that with Kanye because he's
given them exactly what they WERE looking for in the past, they've
listened to it repeatedly for that reason, and found more brilliance
in it. At this point, people will try to get into it simply because he's
established a relationship with them through previous efforts.
Kinda like I was with Prince for a long time.

  
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285. "right on. "
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and i feel you on the last paragraph.
that's true, too.

i will have more patience with my favorite artists...
just in the sense that i'll listen a few more times than normal
to see if i missed something.


>He's not saying there's anything wrong with multiple
>listens.
>He's saying alotta people here only afford certain artists
>that luxury,
>which is why he said folks would immediately be like "this
>ain't for me"
>if another artist came with this sound.
>
>I do think he's right.
>
>At the same time I understand that artists build reputations
>through
>their past work. I think people here do that with Kanye
>because he's
>given them exactly what they WERE looking for in the past,
>they've
>listened to it repeatedly for that reason, and found more
>brilliance
>in it. At this point, people will try to get into it simply
>because he's
>established a relationship with them through previous
>efforts.
>Kinda like I was with Prince for a long time.

  
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280. "the second half is pretty plainly average."
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but the Daft Punk sequence justifies a lot of the hysteria, I feel. "I Am a God" doesn't move me but I feel like the other three tracks are pretty brilliant.

There's too much Travi$ Scott influence on this album, much like $cott's music some of Yeezus feels like it's trying really hard to prove it's cleverness, or aggression.

I think it's really interesting that, if the way the production credits are currently listed holds up in the physical release, Kanye West didn't stake a claim to most of these beats. Coupled with Rick Rubin's gossip that he finalized most of these vocals just a few weeks ago, it becomes a bit hard to take seriously.

"Hold My Liquor" and the entire b-side just drags and drags, and a lot of that's on Kanye's really uninteresting lyrics. It's not even the subject matter, this is just a really boring set of lyrics, which to me is a first.

I'm starting to feel like it'll be more fun to talk about than listen to. After re-watching the SNL performances I feel like he's going for a Bowie thing, some sort of alter ego. I'm not sure he's clever enough for that, and faking it isn't what got Kanye where he is.


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296. "this is where I'm at"
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i have a feeling this album will get better on repeated listens, but from a diehard Ye stan, who feels hes been 5 out of 5, this feels like the first misstep.

I appreciate what he's doing, I think there's some moments on this album that are undeniable, but its so disjointed, and tries to do some really ambitious that I don't feel get fully executed and end up just feeling sorta contrived.

Songs like Blood on the Leaves are crazy to me, and theres beats on here that are just fantastic, but I think Kanye was trying to make a sort of zeitgeist electronic/soulful/dance/in your face rap album, with lyrics that hit you in the way that Power hit you, and the way that New Slaves actually does. But that sentiment doesn't carry on, especially when he's being way to sexually overt on the first verse on I'm In It, and also feels empty on songs like I Am God.

I think I just have a hard time dealing with a Kanye that's so far in the clouds that he doesn't even sound like a real person. He went from the most relatable person in rap, to perhaps the most unrelatable, and the progression makes sense, but his lyrics usually hit home in some way, even if hes rapping down.

Think i'm going to go back and listen a few times to see what sticks, but right now

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281. "don't pretend to know my listening habits lol"
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i do this shit with most albums... which cuts down on quantity of albums i listen to... i spend a long ass time with albums that intrigue me.. the best first reaction i could have to an album is confusion/intrigue, not "omg i love it!" or "omg this is terrible!".. the former usually leads me to get bored in a month or two... i listen to shit on repeat until i can get the terrain of the album.. i think it's better than commenting on something before i understand it... that's what i did as a kid.. that's why i openly said i hated The Beatles until i was like 24 - because i didn't know what the fuck i was talking about... not because i wasn't conforming with popular opinion, it's because i didn't spend time with any of their music... i didn't like Radiohead at first, now they're my favorite band... i listened to 808s a bunch of times and came to the conclusion that it was garbage.. Cosmogramma is a recent album that took time and repeated spins for me to appreciate.. shit, the list goes on and on and on...

the more i think about it, you trying to prove your point that kanye sucks by pointing out that people are listening to an album multiple times before passing judgement is pretty fucking stupid. sorry if that comes off mean, but it's really really dumb.

and i think as far as enjoying this more than other stuff in the lane he derived this sound from, the reason might be because he wasn't as uncompromising as the other ppl doing this stuff.. i look at a group like Death Grips and it sounds like it's making it a point to not be popular... i think there are at least delicate moments on this album that can hold interest for some where they might not have it for the people who did it "first and better".. that's not my personal take on it.. but it makes sense to me..

  
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Ashley Ayers
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283. "Reply 282... last paragraph."
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288. "It only took 1 to know it was ill."
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Course I been fucking w/ HudMo and Daft Punk so this album checks all of my boxes.

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294. "Good thing El-P and Kanye are my two favorite hip hop artists"
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At least for the last decade or so (El-P longer since Co-Flow).

And regardless of the kind of album he made, most people would be giving it multiple listens regardless. He's earned it.

The issue is that there are different kinds of fans with different musical backgrounds/exposure.

There's a ton of OKPs who have listened to Death Grips, dalek, and other "experimental" artists, so what Kanye is doing honestly isn't anything new or that challenging. Some people are going to dismiss him because of this, but I still think he put out a very good album.

Then you have people who haven't heard of any of those artists, and they think Kanye is doing some avante-garde shit. I'd sat what Kanye is doing is still (relatively) "experimental," but it isn't necessarily new or novel. You'll have your frat boys and sorority girls that probably won't like it, the hip hop kids who only like boom-bap and/or soul beats who are stuck in 1999 and can't enjoy anything that deviates from that, and of course the kids who really think Kanye is on the cutting edge of hip hop and music. Fuck, this group sounds annoying as fuck, don't they?

Whatever. Pop hip hop/music needs shit like this, and Kanye really is one of the few guys that can do it.

  
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304. "EL-P and ye are 2 of my favorite artists"
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why does it have to be one of the other? My thing is after Run the jewels and this is out, theres not gonna be enough time in the day to bump them both.

  
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279. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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Some of the praise this is getting so far is like emperor has no clothes level. I really don't hear what you guys are hearing.

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287. "u said the same shit like 5 times already. u ok?"
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289. "no i didn't"
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Quote it then. Stop trying to start an argument and just discuss the music.

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286. "i only like 3 tracks...y'all can have the rest"
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292. "First of all, I applaud Kanye for..."
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giving up the production reigns. As an egomaniac, I know that was
hard for him to do. Many artists will just keep trying to do it themselves,
despite running out of steam and trying to appeal to new crowds
(Prince comes to mind here).
I think that was smart of Kanye, and it definitely shows a side of him
that most people don't expect in basically admitting he doesn't have
the inner wherewithal to pull this album off himself. I know I, personally,
would never have expected that from him.

As for the album itself. I actually like it much more than I thought I
would. Two things make me take a little time with an album before
reviewing it... 1)I strongly wanna like it, and 2) I strongly wanna hate it.
This one fell in the 2nd category. Despite that, exactly half of it
was undeniable upon my first listen. The rest was like "Ok, OK, I
admit it. I like it." As with any album, some tracks are weaker than
others, but I can play this album from beginning to end without having
to skip anything.

Funny thing about this album is that alotta people are saying they
like 3 tracks or so, but they all name different ones. That sounds
exactly like a Prince discussion, speaking of him. Needless to say,
he seems to have done a little something for everybody.

I don't think it's a GREAT album by any means. It's a decent one
that I'll be able to pull out and listen to in it's entirety when I feel
so inclined. Who know though... in time I mind find it great, or I
mind think it's just aight... I did just hear it afterall. I do like it though.

  
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293. "this is a joke, right? this CAN'T be the real album..."
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295. "that's how I know I'm old now, cause this crap blows hard to me"
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I'm loving Bound 2 though



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297. "i like it. eff all yall nonye niggas"
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the beats, the rhymes, the songs, i dig them

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298. "RE: i like it. eff all yall nonye niggas"
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life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  
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299. "RE: i like it. eff all yall nonye niggas"
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life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  
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300. "hunna"
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301. "this shit is tight. i dont even fuck with him either"
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that dude has never made a song i could listen to beyond 5 times
i think i bumped hold my liquor more than that already

  
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305. "I like it, but can tell it'll get stale fast.. looking forward to hearin..."
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tracks in the club "new slaves" and "send it up" specifically, otherwise, album is just "meh" to me... I like the idea he went for on it, just think he still could have done it better

  
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311. "the producer of Send it Up is one of my current favorite DJ/producers"
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his name is Gesaffelstein and his only other hip hop production is a remix of Danny Brown "Black Brad Pitt"

other than that he makes amazing techno with dark, French House sounds

  
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306. "gotta give this another listen, but initial impression? eh."
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the thing I dig about kanye's work is how soulful it is, and how wide of a musical scope he creates in. The whole "rick rubin raw" shit is soooo the opposite of that. A kanye west minimalist sound is something I'd be happy to hear...this though? nah.

But, I'll listen again. First time just skimmed

  
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307. "I found it odd that these songs actually work in the club"
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The DJ set (by Chauncy) before the Cold Cave show in SF on saturday had like 5 yeezus songs.

On first listens in my headphones I thought the songs were kinda slow and dark to get people movin. Yeah I could see "on site" or the shuffle on "black skinhead" get heads nodding.

But damn, even "Bound 2" and "I'm in it"--slow shits with barely any drums--were BANGIN that night.

Lots of catchy hooks too.

Maybe it was the crowd. Or maybe it's cuz I'm old and I don't know what goes on in clubs anymore.

Anyways...just my two cents.




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308. "it's not really odd. this album bangs obnoxiously hard."
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these beats are fucking thunderous.

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328. "thunderous as squirrel farts go, I guess"
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313. "thats about the only place they work, couple hard ass beats here"
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but not too much else to see.

the artsiness of the buildup was a bust.

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309. "i see now that Gesaffelstein done laced him up too"
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seems like Kanye made good use of his time in Paris

  
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310. "told u"
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TNGHT - R U Ready
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedU4f5cA7E

Kanye West - Blood on the Leaves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02m70ICKtTw

  
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315. "yea, so, it bang, and the Kanye song is an actual song"
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did Lunice get credit?

  
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317. "not according to the credits I saw on mixmag.net"
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319. "original credits on wiki had TNGHT as the head producers"
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although I could see the actual liners being different considering I could tell from the moment that beat dropped there wasn't ANYTHING different about it.


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318. "And? He's been sampling his whole career, lol."
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We gonna post "Feel So Good" and "Hollywood Swinging" now too?
As long as they're consenting, credited, and paid, what's the issue?

  
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320. "A) that isnt a sample, thats a very slight rerub + vocals"
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B) I was right all up and down this post and now yall copping pleezus

  
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321. "LMAO, sure lil buddy"
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323. "this makes me find the kanye song more impressive"
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like...who would think to put chops of "strange fruit" over that and then sing in autotune over it...and it actually came out to sound like a cohesive song?

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314. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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its a grower...

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316. ""Bound 2" is one of the GOAT hip-hop masterpieces"
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like top 5 EASILY.

i assume OKP has no issue with this fact.

  
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322. "my least fav song on this with Blood on The Leaves"
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The album bangs tho

  
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324. "I concur"
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it goes hard.

  
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326. "*waits for someone to say something funny about this*"
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327. "Nope! It's indisputable. Greatest love song since 'Song Cry'"
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yea i said it.

  
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334. "*looks @ post 329* "
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slow clap

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329. "damn nigga keep both sets of lips shut for a few minutes"
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let that pussy breathe my g

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330. "oh u still in here? album bangs huh?"
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it's pretty safe to admit it now.

  
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332. "It's the only listenable song on the album"
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341. "Do people only like this because it's a soul sample looped?"
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After 30+ minutes of this musical dystopia I guess ANYTHING that sounds "real hip hoppish" will sound like a masterpiece, eh?


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382. "It only seems that way because the rest of it is so bad"
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its an average, forgettable song.

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469. "wow..."
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325. "the album is 65% ego, and 35% experimental."
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Ye can keep the auto-tune shit, tho.
Its not a "masterpiece", but it aint terrible.
Its just different. And thats not a bad thing.
Its very stripped down, but yet experimental.
"Black Skinhead" intro drumbeat sounds similar to Skinny Puppy's "Convulsion", and the drum during the verses sound like that famous Gary Glitter song.
BTW, I really like the outro in "New Slave".
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331. "let's say, 7.8/10"
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If all those summers in the late-90s wasted away in front of a television airing Saturday Night Live reruns from the mid-90s taught me anything, it was to never trust the SNL stage. The best statement you could ever hope to make was a provocative, meme-like stage show that capitalized on the essence of the times. If not in physicality, Kanye's performances of "New Slaves" and "Black Skinhead" certainly embodied the spirits of predecessors Sinead O'Connor, Ashlee Simpson, Fear, Eminem and...Kanye himself. Unlike many of those performances, the awkwardness of the moment was overpowered by it's mere presence: why is Kanye screaming at us, and how did the Occupy movement get control of SNL's projectors? Are these songs kind of good, or am I just totally amazed this is happening? SNL's stage rarely proves a song is worth it's salt, but it can certainly raise the eyebrow of the middle class U.S.A. Understanding the spirit of that performance, it was hard to be scared by it.

But looking back on those performances now does certainly raise a few questions about the state of Yeezus and Yeezy, good and bad. If we're to believe Rick Rubin's many quotables in the Wall Street Journal (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/06/14/the-inside-story-of-kanye-wests-yeezus/), half the songs here feature lyrics written and vocalized in under two hours. A job one of the industry's most grizzled, diverse veterans assumed would take months to complete at the time he was brought into the fold hit assembly lines mere weeks later. You have to wonder, considering the blatantly antagonistic spirit behind every factor of this album's release - the lack of any case lining, the 1984-like projection-singles, going onto a comedy show to complain about being a paid rapper - if Kanye doesn't in some ways hope we hate his album.

There is, of course, recent precedent for this in rap: Eminem famously pretended that Encore was a real album from the depths of an opiate well, and Lupe's veiled self-hatred as a result of agreeing to make an album like Lasers was as public a label admonishment as we'd seen since Clipse told Jive Records to go fuck themselves on "Mr. Me Too". I've stopped to ask myself what Kanye might think he has to gain by making people mad, but between George Bush and having a child by Kim-fucking-Kardashian, I'm pretty sure he understands precisely what he has to gain by making people angry in 2013. Yeezus could be Kanye's Empire Burlesque (Dylan, Bob), or perhaps Tonight (Bowie, David, http://kanyewestdavidbowie.blogspot.com/). And if it is, I believe he's fully prepared to take those comparisons as total compliments.

All of this psychoanalysis feels necessary because, well, Yeezus is a spectacularly bad album in as many ways as it is a great one. Many of this album's flaws exist from apparent carelessness, an often explicit fracture of expectations. I want to use the word endure, but if you are a Kanye fan from the beginning, it's probably more proper I say relish in the last minute of "New Slaves", that cocky sample on "On Sight", the terrible loop on "Bound 2". None of it fits, and that's the point, as Kanye teases around these strange sexual fantasies on the way to conceptual happiness.

At Yeezus' darkest moments, however, Kanye only sometimes keeps up. It's a shame because even without his name on the tags of most leaks' credits, his obvious desire to feel like his after dinner mushrooms didn't taste so good ends up being overshadowed by a few guests that actually make Yeezus feel as paranoid as Kanye wishes it would. "I'm in It" has some wild one-liners from Kanye, and it's fun to have the image of a mid-30s Kanye West sleeping with the nightlight on. But it's another thing entirely to hear Assassin sway in and out of the beat like a pirate ship on the high seas, giggling at Kanye's one-liners as he carries listeners off to The Bug's London Zoo.

"Guilt Trip" is an example of what happens when that paranoia takes total hold. Many interesting parts are combined into an awkward whole that leaves the listener wondering why KiD CuDi didn't get to keep the track for himself, realizing that Travi$ Scott's aggressively abstract trap sound has consumed most of this album and Kanye had long ago tuned out. Most of the songs during Yeezus' midsection have their captivating moments - when Kanye loses the ability to snag an ear for any random 30 seconds, let's talk - but they struggle fitting together as wholes. "Send It Up" is so close to amazing with it's misogyny and Suicide-style bleep bloops (especially with the sloppy soul of "Bound 2" following) that it's a shame that token "Travelin' Man" sample is so awful. Giving Frank Ocean a similar spot to nod at James Fauntleroy on "New Slaves" is just distracting, too.

It's a shame that half the album feels so absent-minded, or perhaps riddled with Ritalin, because the brilliant moments of Yeezus justify all the mystique Kanye built up around it. Astute listeners will quickly note that the warzone backbone of "Blood on the Leaves" is TNGHT's "R U Ready?" played straight, an historically bland hip-hop move that Kanye lifts into the heavens with a sample of Nina Simone's "Strange Fruit". Likewise, the opening four-song set headlined by Daft Punk on the boards is perhaps the purest id intoxication I've been witness to.

"On Sight" is hilariousy spastic, Kanye getting his Red Flame on over a steampunky alarm clock that doubles as Daft Punk's answer to all those lamenting Random Access Memories' refusal to react to the rise of Justice and similarly aggressive descendants. And the two SNL singles here are repurposed not for their token shock value but for Kanye to toy with being iconic; "Black Skinhead" isn't Kanye's "Beautiful People", it's his "Rock and Roll Part II", with Kanye spasming and gesticulating from behind the mic as though he's imagining Will Ferrell and Adam McKay taking a crack at the Bring It On / Drumline genre of high school battle flicks. "New Slaves" is Kanye figuring out how to make his "Scream" or "Stranger in Moscow", evoking the spirit of pop's most paranoid royalty with all the fire and brimstone of Game of Thrones' Mad King.

After about 15 minutes of total alpha male, 300-style cartoon catharsis Kanye unfortunately proceeds to make perhaps the most terrible choice of his career by following with "Hold My Liquor", an autotune duet between Justin Vernon and Chief Keef (seriously) while someone's playing the Ratatat guy's guitar. Nothing about this song is remotely interesting other than the deeply soothing, warm bass which is layered very nicely in the mix - on an album full of obnoxiously in your face 808s, "Hold My Liquor" is really the one 'headphone' track - and at five and a half minutes, it crushes the schizophrenic mania. The slog allows previously amped listeners to take a real hard look at some of the utter crumminess of Kanye's performance at times throughout the album.

"I'm in It", a song that plenty of people are going to learn to love, really should've figured out how to make a response to Ray J's "I Hit It" that didn't include that last verse from Kanye, full of fun meme-ready catchphrases that don't make for a very cohesive 30 seconds, or lead very cleanly into "Blood on the Leaves", Kanye's nod to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy fanatics. As I mentioned early, Kanye, Mike Dean and the crew have a lot to be proud of with this track. Using the 808s & Heartbreaks autotune setting, the song clues listeners in that this is probably an Amber Rose track, and quite a frank one at that. At least it is for the first two and a half minutes of dirty laundry before indulging in a 40-second ode to "Down 4 My Niggaz", the old No Limit posse cut, then again reconfiguring itself as a skewering of the lifestyle fans of the Kanye/Amber relationship lead, telling a love story that begins on Instagram and ends in divorce in just over a minute. Again, that Miss Simone is wincing about the "blood on the leaves" from "Strange Fruit" throughout this entire thing and it sounds incredibly natural isn't a thing to frown at.

Kanye closes the album with "Bound 2", ostensibly a sequel to the song's main sample, "Bound", by the Ponderosa Twins Plus One. On paper it likely shouldn't be one of the album's most divisive moments, being a soul-oriented boom bap loop (for the most part) that follows a lot of music imagining the Treacherous Three had been offered the finances - or been interested - to make albums inspired by Can and James Chance instead of Parliament-Funkadelic. But that soul loop is messy in a way even Madlib beat tapes are rarely capable of, and it's sort of hard not to chuckle a little at it's sweet lyrics being directed at his new nuclear (in more ways than one) family (and Kanye might be a little in on the fun, considering he ends with a Martin quote). It's hard not to chuckle at a lot of Yeezus, both because it's extremely funny and because at this point, most of Kanye's complaints are about houses he built for himself, not walls holding him back.

As a sonic experience, Yeezus isn't as dangerous as it likes to think it is but it's certainly the epic banger Kanye's worried he didn't have in him since he first ran to Timbaland to help beef up his drum sounds on Graduation. The idea of it being a rush job to the finish line can be a romantic one for fanatics, but keener eyes might realize a really fantastic album is dragged down a little more than it's supposed to be by it's A.D.D. nature and litany of awkward moments. It feels self-sabotaged as often as it does transcendent, and that may be the statement Ye'd like to make most of all. A man afraid to stand still suddenly finds himself in the grandest, most confounding prison of them all ("...love?") and Yeezus is that man searching for a baptism in his sex sweat. It's not a pretty sight, "but tell me have you seen that before?" asks the showman as the curtain closes.



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357. "Probably the best review of Yeezus I've seen"
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Thanks for actually talking about the music

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360. "Thanks!"
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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." Jay Bilas
"I don't read pages of rap lyrics, I listen to rap music." Bombastic
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
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373. "fantastic review"
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you always kill it.

I agree so whole heartedly about Blood on the Leaves. the fact that you can take that nina sample, with the TNGHT beat, Kanye's autotune, the piano chords and make THAT hot of a song, is so amazing to me.

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380. "Thanks!"
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During my third and fourth listens "Blood on the Leaves" started to feel a little messy to me, but a couple days later I just found myself overwhelmed by it all and didn't feel that way anymore. My jaw was just stuck on the floor.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." Jay Bilas
"I don't read pages of rap lyrics, I listen to rap music." Bombastic
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447. "wow great job on the review"
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divided we fall

  
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468. "Thanks!"
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Feel free to share it with your friends now that it's finally published.

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/172739-kanye-west-yeezus/

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333. "1/10, horrible album"
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One of the worst hip hop albums of all time, considering that someone who is actually dope made it.

He's got the catalogue to get a pass I guess, so it's not a big deal. But this album sucks. Just a hard listen.

  
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335. "I'm having NoYork flashbacks"
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I ended up loving NoYork though, so I'll keep listening and hopefully everything will click.

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366. "NoYork is a great example of a "grower""
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I think it was Phonte said that there is no such thing as a piece of art "growing" on someone. He said people only said that because they are forcing themselves to like it.

I strongly disagree but I found it interesting that he said that. I remember him saying some pretty harsh things about MBDTF too when that dropped. Seems like he is just not a kanye fan at all.

But yeah I didnt care for NoYork initially outside of a few songs, and liked it more and more as I listened to it. There are still a few cuts i dont care for on it, but its a good album. Danny Brown's XXX is the same thing. I couldnt get past that voice at first, but now I love taht album and i still play it pretty regularly 2 years later.

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336. "P4K: 9.5 / BNM"
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as if you expected anything less.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18172-kanye-west-yeezus/

i think it ties w/ GKMC as the highest score since dat 10.0

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342. "RE: P4K: 9.5 / BNM"
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lol!!
i don't even read the written reviews, the scores provide enough comedy.

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349. "LMAO"
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337. "Rolling Stone 4 1/2 stars. Gonna be album of the year."
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347. "(0_o)??!!? HAAAAAAAAAAAHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN?"
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338. "Rhymefest and Lupe"
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got some writing credits. King Louie has a credit on New Slaves as well.

  
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403. "cyhi the prince, malik yusef, fonzworth bentley, cudi, ab-liva"
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also got writing credits.
it seems like all his friends our in the room, and he ask them what he should say and he credits everyone.
this probably the best way not to get sued.


more readible version:
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339. "Differences between iTunes and CD?"
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Apparently there are some differences between the U.S. iTunes, New Zealand iTunes, and physical CD.

EDIT: Some people are reporting actually audible differences between the releases.

http://i.imgur.com/PqjDpHS.png

US: http://i.imgur.com/8B54syX.jpg

NZ: http://i.imgur.com/xGvkVjM.jpg

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340. "I'm Australian, Copped the CD today, I'll let ya know if anything seems ..."
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343. "it's ok"
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for a i guess pretty pretentious over sexualized goof ball music experience, you can tell he took this bullshit album way to serious in his douchey way of translating his emotions to music. I almost enjoyed it, because it seems like YEEZUS said i'm go head and put some total bullshit out and see how long it sticks to the wall...

i was not impressed...i might grab a couple of cuts off this joint and play them when I aint got nothing else to do.

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344. "White Mandingos> Kanye"
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the Ghetto's tryin to kill me >> Yeezus
what ever convoluted statement YEZZUS is trying to make is mute, MURS and company brought some fire with there experiment.

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346. "6.25/10. Solid Production but not for me."
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He didn't do this for us ya know.

No radio single. No videos. It's a selfish grandstanding fuck you to us all.

...6/10.

fuck you too, ye.

...5/10.

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388. "RE: 6.25/10. Solid Production but not for me. - and not BY him"
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348. "LMAO @ the Spotify listing"
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http://open.spotify.com/album/7D2NdGvBHIavgLhmcwhluK

  
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350. "this thing is awful"
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351. "Ye just shit in everyones mouth, and y'all are gargling "
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because he told you shit was delicious.

The tastemakers are saying it's delicious, so you're convincing yourselves it's delicious.

I hate the group think card, but damn if it's not appropriate here.

This is awful in every possible way, and most people who believe in its greatness are saying it mostly to convince themselves.

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352. "RE: Ye just shit in everyones mouth, and y'all are gargling "
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What about it do you think isn't good?

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355. "Oh, I dunno. The beats and the rapping? "
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>What about it do you think isn't good?

Typically good beats and good rapping are a requirement for a rap album to be considered good. This album was liquified shit on both fronts, so it's wierd that someone would ask that question.

To be fair, Ye has always been shit as a rapper though. He usually got by with sometimes great, mostly decent production to cover the forced delivery, eye-roll inducing punch lines, and outrageously overstated pomp, but the shitty beats can't cover that up on this one.

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353. "Because nobody liked this until critics gave their approval"
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>because he told you shit was delicious.
>
>The tastemakers are saying it's delicious, so you're
>convincing yourselves it's delicious.
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>I hate the group think card, but damn if it's not appropriate
>here.
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>This is awful in every possible way, and most people who
>believe in its greatness are saying it mostly to convince
>themselves.

"Stop enjoying things I don't like."

You can't enjoy the album, so in your head it's impossible that anyone else can enjoy it without some extrinsic factor at play, and you've convinced yourself that everyone else is being disingenuous with themselves. Fucking pathetic. Grow the fuck up.

  
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Cold Truth
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354. "How about, I dunno, *you* grow up and stop being a bitch. Thanks "
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>"Stop enjoying things I don't like."

Except I never said anything remotely close to that. Please, take a moment and point out where I even implied that statement. I'll wait

>You can't enjoy the album, so in your head it's impossible
>that anyone else can enjoy it without some extrinsic factor at
>play, and you've convinced yourself that everyone else is
>being disingenuous with themselves. Fucking pathetic. Grow the
>fuck up.

FUCKING PATHETIC!!! GROW THE FUCK UP!!!

lol

It's amusing to watch you dance like the puppet you are. Is there any reasonable explanation for why you got so emotional over that statement?

Well, outside of being easily manipulated by the words of someone whose opinion shouldn't matter in the least. I waited until the thread ws 3X plat before I decided to troll it, and within minutes you came running like the sycophant you are. Bravo.

At any rate, grown ups can handle such opinions without throwing a tantrum. Clearly, you're not there.

Thanks for playing!

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367. "i think dude has hemorrhoids. "
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he gets a pass.

  
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369. "Or I just think it sucks and wanted to needle some stans. "
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carry on though.

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393. "Who are you addressing with this?"
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I see at least as many negative or lukewarm reactions in here as positive ones. Maybe more so.

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435. "try and pay attention. "
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-Sig-

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356. "a whole lot of chefs in the kitchen for this shit to come out like this"
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hella writing credits for the rhymes to sound so so. probably his weakest rhyming performance. if not for Bound 2 I would be disappointed.

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358. "Review: Kanye Pulls Off Messy, Majestic Triumph With 'Yeezus' Album (VIB..."
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My review....Yeah, it's long...But fuck it....Sometimes you got to go in....Enjoy or get angry....I like both reactions, actually....

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Review: Kanye Pulls Off Messy, Majestic Triumph With 'Yeezus' Album
VIBE

'The daring Yeezus finds Kanye nailing his greatest stunts'

You dont become the most polarizing pop star this side of Rihanna by playing nice. Indeed, Kanye West is not the easiest soul to love. Pissing off Presidents. Trolling a country music sweetheart during an awards speech. Comparing being barred from a fashion show to joining a civil rights sit-in. Thats all surface shit. West does most of his trolling on his own fans. Lets recall how the Chicago born MC and producerwho was knighted as the savior of digging-in-the-crates hip-hop with his earnest 2004 debut The College Dropoutembraced the enemy when he hooked up with T-Pain and went all Auto-Tune on our asses. Followers who were ready to proclaim West as the Brian Wilson of the rap world after the genre-twisting brilliance of 2010s My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (some critics even started throwing around the G-word: genius) were perplexed when Ye started breaking bread with trap star general 2 Chainz and chick-obsessed protg Big Sean.

Even Wests front page union with reality show queen Kim Kardashian has provoked a collective side-eye; an interesting move from a notoriously private individual that in the past has publicly expressed his disdain for the TMZ/US Weekly brigade (yeah, good luck with that). And yet West continues to get away with it all, often times with messy yet stunning results. Its that same need to buck complacency that fuels his latest work Yeezus, a sneering statement that challenges listeners to erase all previous notions of what hip-hop should be. On this brave, economic assault everybodypoliticians, racists, ex-girlfriends, religious fundamentalists, fellow artists and even Kanye himselfgets it.

How much do I not give a fuck? West tosses off on the Daft Punk produced On Sight. Apparently not much when hes raging over a track that sounds like Kraftwerk on mushrooms. Theres not so much a beat here, but bleeps, blips, synth keyboard stabs, and the kind of unmitigated disdain that Johnny Rotten could get behind. Real nigga back in the house again/Black dick all in your spouse again/And I know she like chocolate men/She got more niggas off than Cochran, hanh?!

Jesus Walks it aint.

West then goes full blown race man on the volatile Black Skinhead, a socio-political kissing cousin to Marilyn Mansons Beautiful People. Stop all that coon shit, he angrily commands over war drums. If I don't get ran out by Catholics/Here come some conservative Baptists/Claiming I'm overreacting.

And on the explosive I Am A God, West takes on detractors who question his hip-hop credibility: Old niggas mentally still in high school/Since the tight jeans they never liked you/Pink-ass Polos with a fucking backpack/But everybody know you brought real rap back Reggae dancehall chants, 808 bass that bruises and batterWest is not a bromidic host. And thats the point.

Theres a throw-it-all-out-the-window energy that permeates throughout Yeezus. Whereas on past albums West made it a point to present compositions that jumped from populist productions to lush, over-the-top orchestrations, his sixth solo release has an impromptu, unfinished feel. The ghost-in-the-machine sound is mostly linear, a fact that is even more impressive when you factor in Wests number of studio collaborators and producers (In his world, Rick Rubin, Hudson Mohawke, Mike Dean, Lupe Fiasco, RZA, Bon Iver's Justin Vernon, King Louie, and the aforementioned Daft Punk can all sit at the same table).

Yeezus is not merely the ramblings of an asshole that equates Godliness with material wealth or status. Its a record that could be heard as the diary of an artist who is well aware of his immense influence and the spoils that come with it, but is not exactly comfortable with the deal. That point of contention erupts on the Frank Ocean assisted New Slaves on which West juxtaposes the segregated past of his late mother (My momma was raised in the era when/Clean water was only served to the fairer skin) with todays era of private prisons and a culture that has become a slave to conspicuous consumption (Bentleys, furs, drugs, diamond chains, Alexander Wang).

But before you start expecting the same introspective, lyrically sharp Kanye West that carried Jay-Z on The-Throne team-up, you wont find him here. This is stream-of-conscious Ye. When ratchet rascal Chief Keef anchors the nihilistic hook on the dark Hold My Liquor, the fellow Chicago MC is merely an extension of Wests self-destructive path. Alcohol-induced car crashes, one-night stands, blackouts and hangovers. Even the aunt of Yes latest conquest sees the writing on the wall when she tells her niece, Baby girl, he's a lonerLate night organ donor/After that he disown ya/After that he's just hopeless

Unfortunately, the raw nature of Wests songwriting at times becomes disjointed and even cringe-worthy. The sexual debauchery fueled Im In Itarguably Yeezus most impressive production with its warped Art of Noise meets Mike WiLL Made It mash-upgets dragged down with sophomoric lines like, Eatin' Asian pussy, all I need was sweet and sour sauce And whoever thought it would be a great idea to waste a flawless sample of Nina Simones take on Billie Holidays haunting, anti-lynching protest song Strange Fruit on the otherwise trivial Blood On The Leaves (West rebukes second string bitches on Instagram tryna get a baby) needs to go to rehab.

Thank, um, Yeezus that Yeezus closes out strongly offering the nearest thing to head knock music as you can possibly get on this set. The euphoric Send It Up thumps with a piercing noise that could be mistaken as a siren for an impending riot as a bold West surmises, Its so packed I might ride around on my bodyguard back like Prince in the club! And the soulful, dusty Blueprint-feel of Bound 2 will no doubt become a rhyme-along favorite, even down to the abrupt Charlie Wilson breakdown.

Yet theres a reason why Yeezus so far stands out as Kanye Wests most divisive work (it has officially surpassed 2008s emotional opus 808s & Heartbreak).This is electro progressive punk masquerading as a rap album.

West even admits that not everyone will be in for the ride when he lifts these telling words from gospel choir Holy Name of Mary Choral Family: He'll give us what we need/It may not be what we want. So, the next time you find yourself shaking your head at what you perceive to be Wests latest douchebag antic, remember: The sensitive jerk in the leather kilt just may be the most important artist of his generation. Aint that a bitch. Keith Murphy (@murphdogg29)

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359. "Kanye followers = swallowers"
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yup yup
album is still doodoo

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362. "Chill with the lazy insults...."
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>yup yup
>album is still doodoo


I didn't realize there was a civil war in this thread....lol....Kind of makes sense though....This album has caused a split...

But it's important to note...U come off as a bit lazy and even idiotic labeling everyone as "followers = swallower's that offers even handed criticism of this album....

You should be more confident in YOUR view of the album....If you think it's suck, that's all good...Shit, I thought 808s & Heartbreak was lackluster....And yet I never resorted to name calling or shitting on niggas that was calling that album the best thing since condoms....

See how that works?

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364. "actually"
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youre a cool cat Murph, so that I apologize for the misunderstanding ( the reply wasnt directed at you or your review ). i just thought that line was pretty catchy in New Slaves ( the whole song lyrically is pretty dope ). its moreso directed at this blind adulation this album is getting everywhere, without any merit or statements telling me why it's so dope. anyone who can clearly write down their thoughts and explain why they hate / love an album will never get any shit from me.

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365. "I dig it....."
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>youre a cool cat Murph, so that I apologize for the
>misunderstanding ( the reply wasnt directed at you or your
>review ). i just thought that line was pretty catchy in New
>Slaves ( the whole song lyrically is pretty dope ). its moreso
>directed at this blind adulation this album is getting
>everywhere, without any merit or statements telling me why
>it's so dope. anyone who can clearly write down their thoughts
>and explain why they hate / love an album will never get any
>shit from me.



Respect....

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427. "Kudos for this review, g."
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Respect.

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361. "Interesting that CyHi, Rhymefest, & Malik Yusef got writing credits all ..."
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  
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368. "Dude sampled Kenny Latimore tho lol. n/m"
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  
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363. "Rick Rubin on working on Yeezus (link)"
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http://pitchfork.com/news/51175-rick-rubin-discusses-the-intense-completion-of-kanye-wests-yeezus/

Def Jam founder and fabled producer/hip-hop pioneer Rick Rubin has spoken to the Wall Street Journal via email about his last-minute involvement in Kanye West's Yeezus, which is out on Tuesday. From the sound of it, the record-- which has yet to leak online-- was a work-in-progress until beyond the 11th hour, and Rubin played a crucial part in the process.

From the interview:
"Kanye came over to play me what I assumed was going to be the finished album at three weeks before the last possible delivery date. We ended up listening to three hours of partially finished pieces. The raw material was very strong but hadnt yet come into focus. Many of the vocals hadnt been recorded yet, and many of those still didnt have lyrics. From what he played me, it sounded like several months more work had to be done. I joined the project because after discussing what he had played for me, he asked if I would be open to taking all of the raw material on and help him finish it."

Just two days before the album was supposed to be turned in, five songs still needed vocals. "Don't worry, I will score 40 points for you in the fourth quarter," Kanye allegedly told Rubin. "In the two hours before he had to run to catch the plane , he did exactly that: finished all lyrics and performed them with gusto," Rubin said.

Rubin, who's been credited as Yeezus' executive producer, said he also helped take the songs to different places than they began. "When he first played for me, it was a more middle of the road R&B song, done in adult contemporary style," he said. "I removed all of the R&B elements leaving only a single note baseline in the hook which we processed to have a punk edge in the Suicide tradition."

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391. "This could have been an r&b album? Fuck Rick, brah. "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  
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370. "that American Psycho promo was the worse thing "
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I've ever had the unfortunate pleasure to watch.

  
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371. "Charlemagne went in tho (LINK)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BbHi-2Wl3o

  
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374. "RE: Charlemagne went in tho (LINK)"
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I feel like he missed the point of New Slaves.

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376. "if you're really a fan of Yeezus, DON'T buy his album."
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LOL
Thats funny, but logical.
You can't be a "new slave" when you have freedom of choice.
Its a schtick, folks.

  
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387. "Yeah that point about not buying it made alotta sense..."
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especially considering his previous points.

  
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392. "Kanye wasn't calling himself the new slave, he was calling "us""
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new slaves, or maybe I misheard the song. (I only listened once).

He seemed to be talking more about how we're victims of materialism and media programming than just whining about himself.

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405. "in that case, his schtick is worse than I thought. "
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How can he accuse us of being slaves to materialism and mass-media, when he is the biggest narcissus in pop culture?
Sheesh, he really is a delusional, walking contradiction.

  
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372. "At best it's a C-... the replay value will be minimal. It's my"
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least favorite out of his catalogue

In fact, production wise--> not impressive

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377. "I'd give it between a 7.6 and 8.3"
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Yeezus establishes an excellent atmosphere and mission statement from On Sight to New Slaves but gets very muddy and awkward on the second half of the album. The reason Blood on the Leaves and Bound 2 both stand out in comparison to everything else on the album's latter half is because sonically their like cousins to older stuff Kanye's done. The verses on Blood on the Leaves reminds me of Kanye's more serious verses on Watch the Throne and Bound 2 is lighter and playful in a way that Kanye hasn't fully captured since the first three albums.

The awkward murkiness that this album brings with it would match perfectly if Kanye the persona didn't contradict some of this. New Slaves is an awesome song and my early favorite but Kanye doesn't actually represent any of that when the song's placed in the context of all the high fashion he wears and the fact that his label has its own brand of braggadocio that would be lumped in with the same music he's criticizing if they were less skilled as rappers.


When I hear some of these songs, it has the feel of someone beating himself up over insecurities to a mashup of NIN and Death Grips. Album's not bad but I wish the music and production could've sustained that same sharpness throughout. The way I feel about this album is practically identical to what I feel about a lot of Kid Cudi's material. It begins to sink under its own weight.
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378. "Just finished listening EPIC better than MDTF by eons"
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379. "LOL @ Pitchfork"
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I've been a Ye fan since forever, but i seriously don't know what to think about this album. I'm not even sure if it'll grow on me. The music just isn't clicking with me like i expected to. I'm not going to force myself to like it. I'm not going to jump on any bandwagons... I'm starting to feel like this is my least favorite solo Ye album.

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381. "lmao this shit is a hot fucking turd"
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smh it's just awful

1) any amount of Ye autotune is far too much

2) beats are all ass

3) Ye yells way too much and takes himself way too seriously (which is saying a lot)

there are 2 songs that are worth a 2nd listen, and neither are even that impressive. New Slaves and Bound 2 were aight. Neither are better than White Dress, which I believe is the last thing he dropped before the album.

Hopefully he gets back to that type of shit, and produce more of his own music.

Yeezus ain't even making it to the whip.

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384. "agreed"
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386. "I will say though"
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my opinion is right now off of the first listen, I can't really see this growing on me though

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383. "um"
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this isn't good

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385. "love some tracks, some are meh, some i don't like"
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on site, black skinhead, i am a god, and new slaves send it up, and bound 2 are awesome. hold my liquor is okay. the other 3 i haven't listened to enough. it's my least favorite 'Ye album, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing, since i love all his albums.

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390. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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It's not for me

  
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394. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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ahhhhh ... Kanye.

I want to like him but I think homeboy is gone. Delusional. Ego-maniac. Troubled.

This latest album is wack sauce to me. Maybe him having a child will bring back some of that deepness he used to show both lyrically and production-wise.

For now I tune out.

  
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395. "Full credits:"
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EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS KANYE WEST AND RICK RUBIN
CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCER CH POPE

ON SIGHT (KANYE WEST, GUY-MANUEL DE HOMEM-CHRISTO, THOMAS BANGALTER, MALIK JONES, CH SMITH, ELON RUTBERG, CYDEL YOUNG, DERRICK WATKINS, MIKE DEAN) ASCAP/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST AND DAFT PUNK ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY MIKE DEAN #MWA AND BENJI B ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER, ANDREW DAWSON AND MIKE DEAN AT NO NAME HOTEL & STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; KENTA YONESAKA AND DAVID ROWLAND AT GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIXED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIX ASSISTED BY SEAN OAKLEY,ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA CHOIR PRODUCED BY KEN LEWIS DRUMS BY DYLAN WISSING PERCUSSION BY MATT TEITELMAN CHOIR DIRECTOR: ALVIN FIELDS CHOIR: CARMEN ROMAN, K. NITA, JOHN MORGAN, JESSENIA PENA, RONNIE ARTIS, CRYSTAL BRUN, SEAN DREW, NATALIS RUBY RUBERO, LORRAINE BERRY, GLORIA RYANN, TIMEKA LEE CHOIR ENGINEERED BY URI DJEMAL AT MADPAN STUDIOS, NYC CONTAINS INTERPOLATION OF SERMON (HELL GIVE US WHAT WE REALLY NEED) WRITTEN BY KEITH CARTER, SR. PUBLISHED BY KEITH CARTER PUBLISHING. USED BY PERMISSION.

BLACK SKINHEAD (KANYE WEST, GUY-MANUEL DE HOMEM-CHRISTO, THOMAS BANGALTER, MALIK JONES, CYDEL YOUNG, ELON RUTBERG, WASALU MUHAMMAD JACO, SAKIYA SANDIFER, MIKE DEAN, DERRICK WATKINS) ASCAP/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST AND DAFT PUNK ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY GESAFFELSTEIN, BRODINSKI, MIKE DEAN AND LUPE FIASCO, JACK DONOGHUE AND NOAH GOLDSTEIN ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER AND MIKE DEAN AT NO NAME HOTEL, PARIS; STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS, GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; KENTA YONESAKA, DAVID ROWLAND AND KEVIN MATELA AT GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIXED BY MANNY MARROQUIN AT LARRABEE STUDIOS, LOS ANGELES, CA MIX ASSISTED BY DELBERT BOWERS AND CHRIS GALLAND MASTERED BY CHRIS GEHRINGER AT STERLING SOUND & VLADO MELLER AT MASTERDISK, NYC

I AM A GOD FEAT. GOD (KANYE WEST, GUY-MANUEL DE HOMEM-CHRISTO, THOMAS BANGALTER, ROSS BIRCHARD, JUSTIN VERNON, MALIK JONES, CH SMITH, ELON RUTBERG, CYDEL YOUNG, MIKE DEAN, DERRICK WATKINS, CLIFTON BAILEY, HARVEL HART, ANAND BAKSHI, RAHUL BURMAN) ASCAP/BMI/PRS/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST, MIKE DEAN #MWA, AND DAFT PUNK CO-PRODUCED BY HUDSON MOHAWKE ADDITIONAL VOCALS BY JUSTIN VERNON ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, CHE POPE AND TRAVI$ SCOTT ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER AND MIKE DEAN AT NO NAME HOTEL, PARIS AND GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS AND KENTA YONESAKA AND DAVID ROWLAND AT GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC MIXED BY MANNY MARROQUIN AT LARRABEE STUDIOS, LOS ANGELES, CA MIX ASSISTED BY DELBERT BOWERS AND CHRIS GALLAND CONTAINS SAMPLES OF FORWARD INNA DEM CLOTHES PERFORMED BY CAPLETON, COURTESY OF GREENSLEEVES RECORDS LTD. WRITTEN BY C. BAILEY AND H. HART, PUBLISHED BY BMG CHRYSALIS MUSIC O/B/O GREENSLEEVES PUBLISHING LIMITED AND STB MUSIC, INC. (ASCAP). CONTAINS SAMPLES OF ARE ZINDAGI HAI KHEL BY MANNA DEY, RAHUL BURMAN, ASHA BHOSLE, LICENSED COURTESY OF SAREGAMA INDIA BY ARRANGEMENT WITH THE ROYALTY NETWORK, INC. WRITTEN BY ANAND BAKSHI AND RAHUL BURMAN, PUBLISHED BY TENYOR MUSIC (BMI)

NEW SLAVES (KANYE WEST, CHRISTOPHER BREAUX, CYDEL YOUNG, BEN BRONFMAN, MALIK JONES, CH SMITH, ELON RUTBERG, SAKIYA SANDIFER, LOUIS JOHNSON, MIKE DEAN, GABOR PRESSER, ANNA ADAMIS) ASCAP)/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST CO-PRODUCED BY BEN BRONFMAN ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY MIKE DEAN #MWA, TRAVI$ SCOTT, NOAH GOLDSTEIN, SHAM JOSEPH, CHE POPE ADDITIONAL VOCALS: FRANK OCEAN NOISES AND VOCAL SOUNDS CREATED AND ENGINEERED BY KEN LEWIS ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING BY HUDSON MOHAWKE AND ARCA ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER AND MIKE DEAN AT NO NAME HOTEL, PARIS; GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; KENTA YONESAKA, DAVE ROWLAND AND KEVIN MATELA AT GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIXED BY ANTHONY KILHOFFER AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIX ASSISTED BY SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA CONTAINS A SAMPLE OF GYNGYHAJ LNY PERFORMED BY OMEGA, USED COURTESY OF HUNGAROTON RECORDS AND FOTEXNET KFT. WRITTEN BY GABOR PRESSER AND ANNA ADAMIS.

HOLD MY LIQUOR (KANYE WEST, MIKE DEAN, JUSTIN VERNON, KEITH COZART, ELON RUTBERG, CH SMITH, MALIK JONES, ALEJANDRO GHERSI, CYDEL YOUNG, DERRICK WATKINS) ASCAP/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY MIKE DEAN AND KANYE WEST ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY ARCA AND NOAH GOLDSTEIN ADDITIONAL INSTRUMENTS BY MIKE DEAN #MWA (GUITAR SOLO) ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER AND MIKE DEAN AT NO NAME HOTEL, PARIS; GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; KENTA YONESAKA AND DAVID ROWLAND AT GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIXED BY MANNY MARROQUIN AT LARRABEE STUDIOS, LOS ANGELES, CA MIX ASSISTED BY DELBERT BOWERS AND CHRIS GALLAND VOCALS BY CHIEF KEEF AND JUSTIN VERNON

IM IN IT (KANYE WEST, JUSTIN VERNON, JEFFREY ETHAN CAMPBELL, JOSH LEARY, MALIK JONES, CYDEL YOUNG, SAKIYA SANDIFER, ELON RUTBERG, MIKE DEAN, ANDRE HARRIS, JILL SCOTT, VIDAL DAVIS, CARVIN HAGGINS, KENNY LATTIMORE) ASCAP/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST CO-PRODUCED BY EVIAN CHRIST AND DOM $OLO ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ARCA AND MIKE DEAN #MWA VOCALS BY JUSTIN VERNON AND ASSASSIN OH VOCALS CREATED BY TAMMY INFUSINO AND KEN LEWIS ENGINEERED BY BRENT KOLATALO ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER AND MIKE DEAN AT NO NAME HOTEL, PARIS; GEE JAM STUDIOS, PORT ANTONIO, JAMAICA; REAL WORLD STUDIOS, BATH, ENGLAND AND SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; MAT ARNOLD AT REAL WORLD STUDIOS, BATH, ENGLAND; DALE AT GEE JAM STUDIOS, JAMAICA, AND SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIXED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIX ASSISTED BY SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA CONTAINS SAMPLES OF LATELY PERFORMED BY KENNY LATTIMORE, USED COURTESY OF SONY MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT. WRITTEN BY A. HARRIS, J. SCOTT, V. DAVIS, C. HAGGINS AND K. LATTIMORE, PUBLISHED BY SONY/ATV TUNES LLC (ASCAP)/EMI APRIL MUSIC INC. O/B/O ITSELF AND TOUCHED BY JAZZ MUSIC (ASCAP)/UNIVERSAL MUSIC CORP. O/B/O DIRTY DRE MUSIC/JAT CAT MUSIC PUBLISHING, INC./BLUES BABY MUSIC/NIVRAC TYKE MUSIC (ASCAP).

BLOOD ON THE LEAVES (KANYE WEST, ROSS BIRCHARD, ELON RUTBERG, MALIK JONES, TONY WILLIAMS, CYDEL YOUNG, MIKE DEAN, LEWIS ALLEN) ASCAP)/BMI/PRS/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST, HUDSON MOHAWKE AND LUNICE CO-PRODUCED BY CARLOS BROADY FOR SIX JULY PRODUCTIONS, INC. ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY 88-KEYS, MIKE DEAN #MWA AND ARCA ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN AND ANTHONY KILHOFFER AT NO NAME HOTEL, PARIS; GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, DAMIEN PROST, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; KENTA YONESAKA AND DAVID ROWLAND AT GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC AND SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIXED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIX ASSISTED BY SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA CONTAINS A SAMPLE OF STRANGE FRUIT AS PERFORMED BY NINA SIMONE. COURTESY OF THE VERVE MUSIC GROUP, A DIVISION OF UMG RECORDINGS, INC. UNDER LICENSE FROM UNIVERSAL MUSIC ENTERPRISES. USED BY PERMISSION. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. WRITTEN BY LEWIS ALLEN. USED BY PERMISSION OF EDWARD B. MARKS MUSIC COMPANY (BMI)/MUSIC SALES CORPORATION (ASCAP).

GUILT TRIP (KANYE WEST, SCOTT MESCUDI, CYDEL YOUNG, MIKE DEAN, LARRY GRIFFIN JR., KEITH ELAM, KEVIN HANSFORD, DUPRE KELLY, CHRIS MARTIN, AL-TERIK WARDRICK, MARLON WILLIAMS, TERRENCE THORNTON, TYREE PITTMAN) ASCAP/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST, MIKE DEAN #MWA AND S1 ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY TRAVI$ SCOTT AND ACKEE JUICE ROCKERS ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN (SFX) ADDITIONAL INSTRUMENTS BY CHRIS HITCHCOCK CHORNEY (CELLOS) ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER AND MIKE DEAN AT NO NAME HOTEL, PARIS; THE MERCER HOTEL, NYC; GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC; SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA AND REAL WORLD STUDIOS, BATH, ENGLAND ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS; KENTA YONESAKA AND DAVID ROWLAND AT GERMANO STUDIOS, NYC; MATT ARNOLD AT REAL WORLD STUDIOS, BATH, ENGLAND AND SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIXED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIX ASSISTED BY SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA CONTAINS INTERPOLATIONS OF CHIEF ROCKA, WRITTEN BY K. ELAM, K. HANSFORD, D. KELLY, C. MARTIN, A. WARDRICK AND M. WILLIAMS, PUBLISHED BY EMI APRIL MUSIC INC./MARLEY MARL MUSIC INC. (ASCAP)/ALMO MUSIC CORP./GIFTED PEARL MUSIC INC. (ASCAP)/ROYNET MUSIC/LOTUG MUSIC (ASCAP)/BMG CHRYSALIS US O/B/O FOUR KNIGHTS MUSIC (BMI)/GHETTOMAN MUSIC (ASCAP) CONTAINS A SAMPLE OF BLOCKA REMIX (ACKEE JUICE ROCKERS) WRITTEN BY TERRENCE THORNTON AND TYREE PITTMAN, PUBLISHED BY SONY/ATV SONGS LLC/NEIGHBORHOOD PUSHA (BMI)/YOUNG CHOP PRODUCTIONS/WARNER CHAPPELL (ASCAP).

SEND IT UP (KANYE WEST, LOUIS JOHNSON, GUY-MANUEL DE HOMEM-CHRISTO, THOMAS BANGALTER, ALEJANDRO GHERSI, MIKE LEVY, SAKIYA SANDIFER, AB LIVA, ELON RUTBERG, MIKE DEAN, MOSES DAVIS, COLIN YORK, LOWELL DUNBAR) ASCAP/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST AND DAFT PUNK CO-PRODUCED BY GESAFFELSTEIN AND BRODINSKI ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY ARCA AND MIKE DEAN #MWA ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN AND ANDREW DAWSON AT NO NAME HOTEL AND STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS MIXED BY ANTHONY KILHOFER AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA MIX ASSISTED BY SEAN OAKLEY, ERIC LYNN, DAVE SQUIRREL COVELL AND JOSH SMITH AT SHANGRI-LA, MALIBU, CA VOCALS BY KING LOUIE KING L APPEARS COURTESY OF EPIC RECORDS CONTAINS A SAMPLE OF MEMORIES PERFORMED BY BEENIE MAN, COURTESY OF VP MUSIC GROUP, INC. WRITTEN BY M. DAVIS, C. YORK AND L. DUNBAR AND PUBLISHED BY TAFARI MUSIC, INC. (ASCAP)/UNIVERSAL MUSIC PUBLISHING/DUBPLATE MUSIC/SHOCKING VIBES MUSIC/JACK RUSSELL MUSIC LTD.

BOUND 2 (KANYE WEST, JOHN STEPHENS, CHARLIE WILSON, CH POPE, ELON RUTBERG, CYDEL YOUNG, MALIK JONES, SAKIYA SANDIFER, MIKE DEAN, NORMAN WHITESIDE, BOB MASSEY, ROBERT DUKES, RONNIE SELF) ASCAP/BMI/COPYRIGHT CONTROL PRODUCED BY KANYE WEST CO-PRODUCED BY CH POPE ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION BY ERIC DANCHILD, NOAH GOLDSTEIN, NO ID AND MIKE DEAN ENGINEERED BY NOAH GOLDSTEIN, ANTHONY KILHOFFER AT NO NAME HOTEL AND STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS ASSISTED BY MARC PORTHEAU, KHO HUYNH, RAOUL LE PENNEC, NABIL ESSEMLANI, KEITH PARRY AT STUDIOS DE LA SEINE, PARIS ADDITIONAL VOCALS BY CHARLIE WILSON ADDITIONAL INSTRUMENTS BY MIKE DEAN (BASS, GUITAR) MIXED BY MANNY MARROQUIN AT LARRABEE STUDIOS, LOS ANGELES, CA MIX ASSISTED BY DELBERT BOWERS AND CHRIS GALLAND CONTAIN INTERPOLATIONS OF AEROPLANE (REPRISE), WRITTEN BY N. WHITESIDE AND PUBLISHED BY DUST INDEX (BMI). CONTAINS SAMPLES OF BOUND PERFORMED BY THE PONDEROSA TWINS PLUS ONE. UNDER LICENSE FROM RHINO ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY, A WARNER MUSIC COMPANY AND RMG MUSIC INC./ROBINSON MUSIC GROUP, LLC. WRITTEN BY B. MASSEY AND R. DUKES AND PUBLISHED BY GAMBI MUSIC, INC. ADMINISTERED BY SONGS OF UNIVERSAL, INC. (BMI). CONTAINS A SAMPLE OF SWEET NOTHINS PERFORMED BY BRENDA LEE. COURTESY OF MCA NASHVILLE, A DIVISION OF UMG RECORDINGS, INC. UNDER LICENSE FROM UNIVERSAL MUSIC ENTERPRISES. USED BY PERMISSION. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. WRITTEN BY RONNIE SELF AND USED COURTESY OF SONGS OF UNIVERSAL, INC. (BMI).

EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS KANYE WEST AND RICK RUBIN
CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCER CH POPE
MANAGEMENT IZVOR ZIVKOVIC
A&R CH POPE
A&R DION (NO ID) WILSON FOR DEF JAM
ADDITIONAL A&R KYAMBO HIP HOP JOSHUA
A&R ADMINISTRATION TERESE JOSEPH
A&R COORDINATION SCOTT MARCUS LEESA BRUNSON
ASSOCIATE PRODUCER NOAH GOLDSTEIN PRODUCTION CONSULTANTS HUDSON MOHAWK ARCA YOUNG CHOP
MARKETING ERIC WONG AMY THOMSON
MASTERED BY VLADO MELLER AT MASTERDISK NYC
ASSISTANT MASTERING ENGINEER MARK SANTANGELO
YEEZUS CREATIVE DIRECTOR KANYE WEST
YEEZUS ASSISTANT CREATIVE DIRECTOR VIRGIL ABLOH
YEEZUS ART DIRECTOR & MUSIC CONSULTANT MATTHEW WILLIAMS
DONDA ART DIRECTOR JUSTIN SAUNDERS
DONDA GRAPHIC DESIGN JOE PEREZ DONDA MUSIC CONSULTANT BENJAMIN BENSTEAD
ILLUSTRATION AND TYPE TREATMENT FOR DONDA JIM JOE 13
ART PRODUCTION TODD RUSSELL KRISTEN YIENGST ALEX HALDI ANDREW ZAEH MEREDITH TRUAX TAI LINZIE THE DGS TEAM
PACKAGE PRODUCTION CAROL CORLESS
SAMPLE CLEARANCES ERIC WEISSMAN MUSIC LICENSING, INC.
LEGAL MICHAEL GUIDO, ROB COHEN AND RENEE KARALIAN FOR CARROLL, GUIDO & GROFFMAN, LLP
BUSINESS AFFAIRS NICOLE WYSKOARKO IAN ALLEN
ANTOINETTE TROTMAN DONNA FETCHKO

it takes a muscle.

  
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Innocent Criminal
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396. "http://i.imgur.com/9yIbuGl.jpg"
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http://i.imgur.com/9yIbuGl.jpg

Thanks though.

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Delaney
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397. "Haha, I just copied & pasted that shit."
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It took me more than a moment to get through it.

it takes a muscle.

  
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phemom
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400. "So many names I didn't expect to see man...."
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Where the fuck Carlos "Six July" Broady been?

Ab-Liva?
Rhymefest? (I guess I should'nt be surprised by that tho.)
Lupe on Black Skinhead?

...Hopefully we get some stories behind this album and how it was made.

phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  
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woe.is.me.
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398. "Favorite Lines:"
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pretty much all of "on sight" is hilarious to me.

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Apollo Kid
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399. "i have a serious question"
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i enjoy the sonic direction of some songs but i think the lyrics are super unfocused

am i bugging?

take guilt trip for instance... the title and music imply a deep song, even cudi's singing during the bridge... but what the fuck is ye talking about?

a lot of the bars on here sound like reference tracks

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Kosa12
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401. "lyrically this album is terrible"
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I mean I know Kanye isn't the best MC but damn. I'm mad dissapointed

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Ashley Ayers
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407. "Yeah the lyrics are scattered like a mufucka, BUT..."
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I think that kinda works in the album's favor on some level... it leaves things up
for interpretation and lets you draw your own conclusions as to what it could
mean for you, personally...

On the other hand, the Rick Rubin interview revealed that he finished a good
percentage of the lyrics in a day, so that sounds like he just threw the shit
together, lyrically. Here's the excerpt from the interview...

"Can you recall a scene from the sessions that might help people
understand his method in the studio?

We were working on a Sunday for girlfriend Kim and the album was to be turned in two days
later. Kanye was planning to go to Milan that night. Five songs still needed
vocals and two or three of them still needed lyrics. He said, Dont worry, I
will score 40 points for you in the fourth quarter. In the two hours before
had to run out to catch the plane, he did exactly that: finished all lyrics and
performed them with gusto. A remarkable feat. He had total confidence in
his ability to get the job done when push came to shove."

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/06/14/the-inside-story-of-kanye-wests-yeezus/

  
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kayru99
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402. "upon second listen, it's not as noisy/thrashy as I first thought"
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but it is easily my least favorite Kanye album. Why have all these dense electronic producers on the joint only to have rick rubin come in and strip it to shreds?

This shit is gonna be HUGE for the hipster/white college crowd though. Might be his biggest crossover record.

  
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The Wordsmith
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404. "'Ye musta made a one dollar bet that he could...."
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...make an album consisting of him taking a dump and folks will still hype it up. That has to be the only explanation as to why he dropped this garbage. This album is wack as hell. Horrible.


Since 1976

  
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AlBundy
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406. "Em did it first"
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408. "so is your face."
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>wack as hell.
>Horrible.





fuckin wit u tho

  
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L.E.S.
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409. "Kanye ain't got shit on Kendrick"
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just saying. Kendrick is like the younger more authentic voice, something Kanye tries desperately to be. But Kendrick can rhyme a million times better and smarter.

  
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410. "Who Made Yeezus? (link)"
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http://www.mixmag.net/words/features/who-made-yeezus

  
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425. "Benji b? Interesting"
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Nodima
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412. "KTT audiophile breaks down differences between CD/iTunes/NZ iTunes"
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though I think there's some stuff with On Sight and Bound 2 also, he didn't list them.


Black Skinhead
CD - Less Lossless (cuts off at 21kHz), clean drum intro, drum fill going into the hook before the second verse in left channel only
World iTunes - More Lossess (cuts off at 22.1kHz), clean drum intro, drum fill going into the hook before the second verse in left channel only
WEB FLAC - Same as World iTunes, except cuts off at 21.9kHz
US iTunes - More Lossess (cuts off at 21.9kHz), distorted drum intro, Opening Lines NOT spoken by Kanye, screams louder in the mix, drum fill going into the hook before the second verse in the center, a bit Quieter but less dynamic vs. CD and World iTunes

I Am A God
CD - Beat does not drop out during "Y'all Better Quit playing with God" line
World iTunes - Beat drops out during "Y'all Better Quit playing with God" line
US iTunes - Beat drops out during "Y'all Better Quit playing with God" line, a bit Quieter but less dynamic vs. CD and World iTunes

New Slaves
CD - Kanye's outro vocals more towards the right
World iTunes - Kanye's outro vocals more towards the left, slightly different mix
US iTunes - Kanye's outro vocals more towards the left, slightly different mix, a bit Quieter but less dynamic vs. CD and World iTunes

Hold My Liquor
CD - possibly MP3 sourced (cuts off at 16kHz), volume spikes during verse 1
World iTunes - From a Lossless source, volume spikes during verse 1
US iTunes - From Lossless source

I'm In It (Percussion during Outro possibly remixed in iTunes releases)
CD - Wave Form cut at top and bottom, original outro mix
World iTunes - Wave form NOT cut at top and bottom, outro slightly remixed (unique vs. CD and US iTunes)
US iTunes - Wave form NOT cut at top and bottom, a bit quieter vs. World iTunes; outro slightly remixed (unique vs. CD and World iTunes)

Blood On The Leaves (the core of the track has a slightly different mix in each release.)
CD - original mix
World iTunes - unique outro mix (slightly different vs. other formats)
US iTunes - unique intro mix (slightly different vs. other formats), original outro mix, a bit quieter CD and World iTunes

Guilt Trip
CD - Original Mix
World iTunes - Original Mix, possibly a tiny bit different than CD release; a bit quieter than the CD release
US iTunes - Slightly Different Mix

Send It Up
CD - narrower stereo field (possibly less reverb), Beat does not drop out during "It's so packed I might ride around On my bodyguard's back" line.
World iTunes - same as CD
US iTunes - wider stereo field (possibly more reverb), Beat drops out during "It's so packed I might ride around On my bodyguard's back" line.



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Jakob Hellberg
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413. "It's decent"
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Granted, I've only played it once at work so my opinion might change.

Anyway, Kanye might very well have the most annoying rap-persona ever: the combination of
*jesus-complex,
*"cocky", I'm rich swag,
*"I'm missunderstood"-emo isms
*vague attempts at consciousness
*narcissistic celebrity-twitter crap

It's like they cooked him up in hell, like, the most obnoxious dude ever. And his flow sucks. I've liked him sometimes in the past but it seems like he has settled into a "style" that is really pretty wack, sort of like what happened to the RZA when he suddenly just started to ramble all the time.

The production is cool but not great to me. The abrasiveness is not an issue to me; PE and early Ice Cube sounded more abrasive to me. However, many of the beats on this record give me a corny 90's industrial hangover. It's like those hollywood movies when the straight-laced hero goes to some depraved bar full of deviants, perverts and lesbians dressed as goths dancing to something that sounds like a parody of NIN or EBM-sounding shit... well, that's the vibe I get. I dig the beat on "Black skinhead" though but I've already heard that one.

Still, it was an entertaining listen which counts for something. I'll come back to individual songs after I've played it again...

  
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Nodima
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414. "Hah, like when Franco went punk on freaks & geeks"
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416. "My dude... I laughed SO hard at this..."
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>It's like they cooked him up in hell, like, the most obnoxious
>dude ever.

  
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418. "i honestly don't think i can sit through an album of him rapping anymore"
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not that he was ever that great at rapping, but nowadays he is just so annoying to me.

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415. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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Wrote a review for it on my site here

http://troyismajor.com/?p=245

Peep it.

  
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419. "this sounds like a mixtape of throwaway tracks"
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he even managed to ruin blood on the leaves, which could have been an amazing song


new slaves is dope tho

  
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420. "RE: this sounds like a mixtape of throwaway tracks"
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so true.

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422. "RE: this sounds like a mixtape of throwaway tracks"
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Really? I thought Kanye elevated Blood On The Leaves. Rapping over that piano sample so flawlessly in the beginning of the song was jawdropping.

  
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Eric B Is Prez
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421. "Several spins and a few days later"
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I think this is a very strong Kanye album. I almost think this is his Kid A or Amnesiac. He'll lose a few fans, but overall I think this broadens his palette even more, and I like the rawness of it, the contrasts- Yeezus is all about contrasts- between cold synths and warm dusty samples, between confidence and self doubt, between empty space and startling noise, love and hate for women, etc.

I definitely think I'll still be playing this years from now.

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424. "imo, this gets better and better on repeat listens"
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it's at least his 2nd best album from a sonic standpoint, imo.
i also think when viewed as a concept record (bachelor raging before settling down) the sequencing and perspective makes a lot of sense.

in short, i think this is his Pinkerton, Ok Computer or even Kid A: an album that is initially looked down upon by some fans because it is so different from his prior work, but later vindicated.

It certainly isn't for everyone, but to dismiss it as lazily thrown together tripe is to not study it properly (in my opinion).

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426. "^^^I agree"
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The album gets better and better after every listen.

I hated MBDTF for the entire first month of listening to it. Now it's one of my favorite albums EVER. I don't think this is on that level but I know that it's good.


I really wish that there were more than 10 tracks on it tho...

  
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428. "that's not getting better, that's being convinced of something"
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and album can't get better, that's bullshit

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Nodima
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429. "If you don't know that feeling of clicking with something, that's a bumm..."
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For much of my childhood, while I loved the Wu-Tang for whatever reason I did not like Only Built 4 Cuban Linx...

At all.

It took me almost a decade to learn to love that album, but now it's a love something fierce, and I'll never forget how amazed and stupefied and bewildered I felt when I finally clicked with that album.


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430. "you must have not been a teen in the 90's"
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cuz that Raekwon album was legit on arrival for many of us back then

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431. "Cuban Linx is just his personal example, not the point"
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if you've never made an effort to grow as a listener and sit with an album through repeat listens til it "clicks" or revisit an album which blows you away when you weren't feeling it the first couple times, that can be an amazing experience. I imagine people who have never felt that have a pretty narrow scope of what they are able to enjoy musically.

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433. "I was an elementary schooler"
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and my first experiences with it were trying to play Contra III, and later NFL Blitz, over at my neighbor's house. He was a real dick and was always yelling with his mom about one thing or another, calling her a bitch. It was so awkward, but I really wanted to play those games, and the soundtrack was always OB4CL (or Limp Bizkit). I learned to hate most of the music I heard in that house. Cypress Hill was another one, I had the worst opinion of them for a long time.


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434. "please don't talk to me about my experience."
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if you don't like it, you don't like it, and that's okay.

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436. "NIGGA!"
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nobody talking to you about your experience
I'm telling you there is no such thing as an album getting better
it was whatever it was when it was presented to you, that doesn't change because you like it or dislike it now
the idea that music quality bends to our perception is pretty fucking silly to me

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438. "Albums definitely get better..."
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especially when the hype for the album clouds your ears...

This is definitely some Kid A shit... I'll never forget the day/night Kid A came out. It released on Tower records at midnight and the line was long. We're standing in line waiting to cop and I ask an employee who the hell is playing.

It's the new radiohead! Huh? This ain't rock? What? Shit's bleeping, clicking and sounds nothing like OKComputer...over time... I GREW to love the album because it took a while to erase the expectations of a follow up to OK.

I feel like this Yeezus album is the EXACT same thing... Ye fans are all "WTF is this shit? This ain't hip hop... and they are right. This ain't a hip hop/rap album... this shit is.... an album. Shit's weird, odd.. but that shit bangs IMO and at first I was thinking DELETE. Shit grew on me though...

..and I'm too old to form my opinion based on the masses. Shit, most people aren't feeling it anyways. However, I think it's a great rock/rap/electo/trap sound.

  
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441. "right. I had that same experience with OK Computer"
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which is my point.
that album is widely regarded as one of the best albums of the 90s.
but it's a big jump away from "the bends"

a lot of people were taken aback when they first heard it.
it took me a full 6 months to come around and now its one of my top 3 albums (if not number 1).

same story for "Pinkerton" on a lesser scale.

and "Kid A" also.

It's not at all an outlandish thing to make the same case for Yeezus.
i'm not saying everyone will love it, i'm saying I personally have grown to enjoy it more and more.

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445. "it's impossible. when it comes out it's as good as it's ever gonna be"
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>especially when the hype for the album clouds your ears...
>

any hype about an album comes from people, not the album itself
if you're lukewarn on an album then love it later, or vice versa, that's on you
the album is made already, it's as good or as bad as it's ever going to be and your personal perception of that is up to you


>This is definitely some Kid A shit... I'll never forget the
>day/night Kid A came out. It released on Tower records at
>midnight and the line was long. We're standing in line waiting
>to cop and I ask an employee who the hell is playing.
>
>It's the new radiohead! Huh? This ain't rock? What? Shit's
>bleeping, clicking and sounds nothing like OKComputer...over
>time... I GREW to love the album because it took a while to
>erase the expectations of a follow up to OK.
>

that's always a bitch if you're into music, but it's one I welcome


>I feel like this Yeezus album is the EXACT same thing... Ye
>fans are all "WTF is this shit? This ain't hip hop... and they
>are right. This ain't a hip hop/rap album... this shit is....
>an album. Shit's weird, odd.. but that shit bangs IMO and at
>first I was thinking DELETE. Shit grew on me though...
>

"it grew on me" seems to be the mantra around here for listening to wack shit enough that you start to like it
not saying whether or not this is the case with you, but there's a precedent set


>..and I'm too old to form my opinion based on the masses.
>Shit, most people aren't feeling it anyways. However, I think
>it's a great rock/rap/electo/trap sound.

seems to me more people are liking it where I am, not sure about anywhere else

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451. "nah... I disagree..."
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but do you..

I dig it. I don't view it as a rap album tho so maybe that's why I like it. I like all types of shit tho so it's not a WTF is this moment.

That being said... I did not fuck with 808's at all. I'm not a fan of the auto tune long notes.

  
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452. "so let me get this straight"
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you honestly believe that the music printed on a CD or in a rar file actually changes as you listen to it more?
can you explain this magical process that allows you to remix entire albums by listening to them?

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457. "*dead*"
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466. "Garhart Poppwell U R Off, son"
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With any good art, the work can grow and you can see/hear/understand things in a different way over time. It is not the work that changes, but one's perspective/mind-state. Our expectations affect the way we perceive things, and as we go beyond them, we can appreciate other aspects. Heck, even our life experiences change how we relate to things.

For example, if you listen to some cool jazz as a high schooler and can't chill out enough to vibe to it, but discover it in your 40's and really dig/understand it, did the music change? No. But you sure are hearing it way differently. This can happen on a smaller scale as well, coming back to something in a few months or even a few days can change what you hear. Not what is actually there, but what you hear.

  
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473. "before calling someone 'off' I'd suggest"
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not making the same point as the person you called 'off'
no snark intended, but read my post again

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439. "I can't disagree more"
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art doesn't exist in some vacuum of objective quality where something just IS good, or IS bad, or is mediocre. It exists in a continuum of interpretations that change upon EVERY READING. By every person who listens, each and every time that they listen.

The context of society, and where things are going to be in 10 years will change the quality of this album.

The way music will sound in 10 years will change the quality of this album.

The way your life changes in 10 years will change your personal opinion on the quality of this album.

The quality might change infinitely back and forth between every listen, or it might consistently be considered the best or worst thing that Ye ever did in his career.

But to make a blanket statement that you listen once, and thats it. Thats the fact, thats the only experience you have, thats the only one that matters, thats the only thing that can be effectual to you about this album, and every continued rehashing is just "convincing" yourself that something is good, now THATS bullshit Joe.

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442. "i think his point is, your perception changes"
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not the music itself

  
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450. "But to me that just sort of a semantical argument"
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Because the quality of the music and the perception of that quality are so intrinsically linked that one doesn't exist without the other. Basically my point is that just how people can say you can't call something a "classic' until some time has passed after somethings released, neither can you discount that repeated listening also changes the perception, which changes the quality of the music.

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459. "there's no semantics involved"
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it's not the fault of the artist you have to catch up, the music is already what it is and doesn't get 'better' over time

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446. "thanks for reading, bucko"
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449. "_"
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Kosa12
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474. "wait wait stahp, i see what you are doing but"
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>in short, i think this is his Pinkerton, Ok Computer or even
>Kid A

these albums are so much fucking better than yeezus it isn't even funny. for me on repeated listens the beats aren't even the main offender. its the LYRICS. lyrically this is...well......the lyrics just suck in my opinion

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Tycredo
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432. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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Wow.

Finally listening to it now.

In my mind, Kanye has steadily declined. The last album I REALLY liked was Graduation.

Was meh about 808s (his "innovation" was only interesting to people who only listen to hip hop), WTT (really bad) and MDTBF (1/2 was good).

This one has moments (a few seldom ones) of greatness...I like "New Slaves" start to finish but it does seem totally rushed...with all these cooks in the kitchen, it just seems and sounds messy and unfocused.

Shocked that no one has connected his supposed "anger" to his newfound fatherhood.

If I had a kid with Kim Kardashian, I'd be fucking bummed....except for the money.

  
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437. "Watch the Throne is dope as hell!!"
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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440. "I may be in the minority but second half > first half"
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448. "RE: I may be in the minority but second half > first half"
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I don't see how anyone could disagree with that...

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443. "Pitchfork: The Yeezus Sessions - Interviews with Kanye's collaborators "
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http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9157-the-yeezus-sessions/

  
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Original Juice
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444. "RE: Pitchfork: The Yeezus Sessions - Interviews with Kanye's collaborato..."
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Came here to post this..

So HudMo ODed during the making of Yeezus.. Hopefully that cat keeps it together. Been waiting on another solo LP from him. I need to hear some non-TNGHT/Non-Kanye/Non-G.O.O.D. Hudmo production again.

  
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453. "El-P, FlyLo...yawn. Kanye + a shitty guitar pedal = Genius."
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WHen folks call Yeezus experimental, its obvious they haven't heard the pile of real experimental stuff that has been floating around. I would have liked if Kanye worked with experimental producers instead of the product we got in Yeezus. Just simple beats run through a very shitty, cheap, clipping distortion and we have Pitchfork fawning all over it. The lyrics really werent that deep and the production doesn't even hint at the world of highly experimental dope hip hop beats out there that actually have kicks that knock.

  
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454. "RE: El-P, FlyLo...yawn. Kanye + a shitty guitar pedal = Genius."
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Flying lotus and El-P are gods to me, and I love this album. Could just be that you just don't like this album and other sincerely do...

  
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462. "I like kicks that knock & like distorted elements, not whole mixes."
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464. "I'm not saying you SHOULD like it"
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but just because you think its trash doesn't mean its trash to someone else. And just because someone else doesn't think its trash doesn't mean that they don't because they haven't been exposed to the same music that you have and it doesn't mean that they aren't a fan of other shit your into. I like this album because I prefer my hip hop along the lines of el--p and flylo. And although Ye isn't the best at that, I am a huge kanye fan and I enjoy hearing him mixed into this vibe. I think ye pushes the limits just as much as el-p and flylo, just in different venues and through different channels.

  
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470. "lol @ Real experimental"
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471. "RE: lol @ Real experimental"
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The folks that are fawning over this album are the ones touting its experimental, forward-looking sound. Just sounds like they took regular beats and ran em through shitty distortion. This is not what EL-P, FlyLo, etc are doing. And its also not very good. I have dug a lot of Ye stuff, but this is pretty fucking bad. This is Metallica Lulu bad.

  
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aesop socks
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455. "Very very good album. Only thing I'm listening to since it came out."
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456. "Looks like most folks in here hate it. Oh well."
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458. "9/10 cant compare it to any other albums he dropped "
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but he is for real pushing the envelope
and i dig it alot

new slaves stays on repeat

i actually like the rhymes more on this than mdtf


  
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467. "second half sounds like 808s to me"
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the last track could've been on Late Registration.

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460. "RE: Kanye West - Yeezus [Album discussion] (only)"
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i'm so fucking retarded.

i was trying to play the disc on my computer for hella long, but it wouldn't read it. "No Disc"

So I eject it and reload about 5x before I finally flip the shit and now it's all good.

Damn this no label bullshit.

  
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Adwhizz
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461. "Damn, Ye's sense of urgency/intensity in New Slaves..."
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Then going into that bluesy interlude afterward is the perfect end to side 1 of this album.

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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NotScared2Ask
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463. "Trash. Image continues to dominate over quality "
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Crazy to read such glowing reactions from critics

  
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465. "cant wait for Yeezus 2"
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https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

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jorge123
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472. "One of the worst albums I've heard since 808s & Heartbreak"
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81 DUN
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475. "Yeezus = one of the greatest musical achievements ever any genre."
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Kanye took you clowns to another planet with this one and still kep it hood. Y'all lames ain't hearing doe. Go listen to Sage Francis nerds.

  
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476. "I feel like a lot of people would go listen to Run the Jewels right now"
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since that album feel so clearly like a counterpoint to Yeezus, but in that special way where it's going for a lot of the same things as Yeezus, it's just not jumping up and down screaming "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! I'M WEIRD!" as it does that.


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477. "Shut up. Go back to listening to Atmosphere."
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Don't tell me what I should be listening to. Oh! these people are so dumb for liking this when so and so is better. Fuck off.

  
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478. "Yeezus haters no one mentioned Toro Y Moi yet."
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Not even sure if he has that sound but I'm sure you can group dude wit Flying Lotus or something.

  
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479. "goddamn you are mad dun."
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maybe you should read the thread before you start blasting off.



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Kosa12
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482. "smh"
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483. "I feel sorry for your mother."
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javi222
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480. "this album is lyrically horrible"
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481. "I like this way more after a second listen"
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After I got over the fact that it wasn't going to be a sequel to Kanye's other records and listened to it for what it is I really enjoyed this album.

I still don't like "Hold My Liquor" but otherwise I really enjoy it all.

  
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484. "ANCHOR THIS SHIT AGAIN; IT FINALLY REALLY HIT ME"
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I put this album down for a couple weeks. Mostly to listen to RtJ.

But I picked it back up this week (cuz I heard about the APC collabo...no other reason than that, really) and it hit me like a ton of bricks.

I liked it on my first listens. But now I REALLY like it. It's now my desert island kanye disc.

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486. "lol"
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487. "I had it all wrong about this album."
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This is probably the most important project to drop this year.
Including the video projection of New Slaves on 66 buildings, a stark statement about grandiose celebrity-entitlement (as well as worship).
Its a resuscitation of performance art.
All the way down to the absence of album art-work on the cd.
The biggest satire on pop-culture in 2013.

  
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488. "I agree. It may not be the best album but it's the most important"
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And I find myself liking it more and more each time, while the opposite is happening with Hov's album.

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490. "What's important about it? "
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-Sig-

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491. "Bucking the whole system while being the biggest star in it?"
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The "dualities" as Hov likes to (now) say.

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496. ":)"
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489. "I'd say this would matter if he didn't shack up with a fame slut"
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>This is probably the most important project to drop this
>year.
>Including the video projection of New Slaves on 66 buildings,
>a stark statement about grandiose celebrity-entitlement (as
>well as worship).
>Its a resuscitation of performance art.
>All the way down to the absence of album art-work on the cd.
>The biggest satire on pop-culture in 2013.

LOL meanwhile this fucker is not only in a relationship with a Kardashian, but had a child with one.

Was that part of this shitty piece of "performance art" too?

-Sig-

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493. "right? he aint satirizing shit...he *believes* it "
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494. "You don't think he's quite aware of the contradiction?"
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497. "His awareness of his hypocrisy doesn't negate his hypocrisy"
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-Sig-

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498. "Are we defined by the people we date/sleep with/knock up?"
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499. "RE: Are we defined by the choices we make? "
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Absolutely.

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500. "Eh, we'll just have to agree to disagree then I guess"
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To me, the fact he's with who he is with doesn't mean he's insincere about the anti-corporation stuff.

Hell, he put his $ where his mouth is with the way he had his label market the album. I'm sure he cost himself a whole lot of $ with that one.

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501. "No, you'll just be wrong and I'll be right. It's ok though. "
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-Sig-

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502. "You must be a miserable person in real life bud. I feel sorry for ur bf"
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Also, go fuck yourself.

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503. "I must be miserable because you're insanely easy to troll? "
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>Also, go fuck yourself.

I'll do that, and use a page full of ye's wack ass rhymes to nut on before I mail it to you.

-Sig-

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504. "Oh, you're trolling. Cool."
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I thought the purpose of this thread was to discuss our opinions on the quality of the album, not to try and bait each other into silly barbs. Once again, my bad.

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OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  
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Cold Truth
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505. "Oh, it didn't start out that way"
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I never once baited you
I just decided to go all in once I saw how emo you are on the subject/

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  
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CMcMurtry
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506. "You mean when I said we'll just have to agree to disagree?"
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And then you told me how wrong I am? Yeah, sure buddy, I'm in the emo one here.

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OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  
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Cold Truth
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507. "No, but it WAS the perfect time to crank it up to 100. "
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:)

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“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  
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cgonz00cc
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492. "ok you guys have officially jumped the megalodon"
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>The biggest satire on pop-culture in 2013.

  
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Fructose Soda
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511. "whether intentional or not, Yeezus is a pop-cultural satire"
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Why is that so far from being comprehensible?
Ye made more of a controversial statement than Hov's corporatized grand-standing.
Irony, sure. But Ye doesn't neccessarily have to be conscious of how subversive his art is being conveyed.
Even the way he has fetishized the naked cd is a form of cultural trolling.
There's so much "accidental" subtext to be dissected in his album.
The fact that Ye is actually bragging about himself is irrelevant, at this point.
It's the best mistake he's created yet.

  
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cgonz00cc
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35261 posts 		Wed Jul-31-13 06:34 AM

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516. "satire is inherently intentional"
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BNueve
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2068 posts 		Mon Jul-22-13 11:08 AM

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495. "one of the worst albums...ever"
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this shit is garbage. i like kanye, but this dude has been feelin himself too much lately.

  
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Kid Ray
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1702 posts 		Mon Jul-22-13 06:20 PM

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508. "Yeezus still in heavy rotation. Album of the year."
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Ishwip
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509. "It's funny how now the album doesn't sound strange at all......"
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And it might not be my least favorite Kanye album anymore.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

  
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cbk
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510. "it's a grower"
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kinda liked it at first.

put it away for a week.

picked it back up.

damn.

still in heavy rotation.


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  
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2Future4U
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513. "if this album is so great"
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why did everyone and their mama stop singing its praises

SMH at the swallowers

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Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."

PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like

  
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Stadium Status
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514. "i am still signing it's praises"
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& still listening to it regularly

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Kid Ray
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515. "I'm sorry that I enjoy this album."
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Sorry it's still in heavy rotation.
Sorry it's my favorite album of the year.
Sorry that I'm a fan of Kanye's music.

  
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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517. "love the second half. don't care for the first half"
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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

  
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Tiger Woods
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518. "Well you upped this post from a month ago, no?"
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Meanwhile the MCHG post been sunk to the bottom of the vast Lesson-ocean.

  
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