And when I mean hear, I'm talking about honestly processing what's coming out of the headphones... I've worked hard to overcome this affliction but it's still a struggle. When you've been listening to music for 30 years plus you can't help but look for comfortable patterns and sounds in new music. You latch onto what's familiar and often reject what's not.... You've programmed yourself basically. Now there's nothing wrong with this if you're happy just listening to the music that fits ... but where we tend to go wrong is applying this "program" to everything new that we listen and then hating when it doesn't work. It's like trying to play Halo on a Commodore 64... it's just not going to work with the hardware we have.

When we were younger our musical ear was still developing... in turn we were excited by new sounds. We could seamlessly roll with multiple changes in sound and style without missing a beat. During this time we create the era of "good music". Years later we'll talk about how much better everything was "back in the day" and offhandedly dismiss most new music as crap ... yeah there have been changes that have hurt the quality of music today I'm not going to denying this .... but the truth is not all those sounds back then were better than the new sounds today ... it's just we were still being programed then and were wide open to honestly consume what was in front of us. At some point we finalized what we like and started to fit what we call "good music" into that box. This will work for a while.... as music slowly changes we'll still find enough familiarity to enjoy it ... but as time passes and music changes we lose touch. We will deny we're the problem not the music but that doesn't make it any less true.... trust I've been there.

But the first part of overcoming any affliction is simply admitting it. Again if you're happy just staying in the past by all means stay there. But if you want to actively consume and comment on new music in an honest way you're going to have to work a little... You will have to retrain yourself to really hear what you're listening to. This means fully committing and listening to artists and/or albums you aren't feeling right off. You will want to turn it off or skip tracks ... this is your programming kicking in. You must override it this at all cost .... give it your full attention and don't skip ahead or let your mind drift off.... stay focused on what you're hearing. Don't expect it to be exactly what you're used to .. stay open. If after one listen you didn't find anything even remotely enjoyable it's ok to move on... it's either really bad or just too far removed from what you can process. But if you find it even somewhat enjoyable a second full listening is needed. After two listens you should have a good idea of what tracks you think may be worth revisiting.

Of course once you've learned to honestly give new music a chance you will form your own system... but the most important part of all this is being true to yourself and the process.... it's not going to be easy... if it is you're not doing it right. God knows I've wanted to bail at times... The new Rihanna truly hurt my soul... but man up and stick to the plan. Work hard enough and you will have a fully refurbished pair of ears to enjoy for years to come.
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Not sure I agree with every little nuance, but I agree w/ the overall sentiment.

Just the other day in the record store I realized I don't give new releases half the attention and respect I give old music. But I'm good w/ that. I prefer the music I spend my time w/ to be something that has withstood the passing of time. It's hard for me to take a lot of new stuff seriously, b/c I already have it in my mind that it'll be here today and gone tomorrow.

My own issue, of course. I still am able to enjoy some new stuff, but I definitely don't hold it in as high of a regard.

>My own issue, of course. I still am able to enjoy some new
>stuff, but I definitely don't hold it in as high of a regard.

But when we start railing on quality of shit we really haven't heard or can't hear we have moved into curmudgeon territory.

And I only gave my process for listening to new music as an example. The most important thing is just giving it a fair shot. Playing 30 seconds of a track or having it playing while you're doing a bunch of other shit just doesn't count. For me I like a long drive... preferably at night when I'm either alone or the person I'm riding with is sleeping.


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>But when we start railing on quality of shit we really haven't
>heard or can't hear we have moved into curmudgeon territory.

>When
>you've been listening to music for 30 years plus you can't
>help but look for comfortable patterns and sounds in new
>music.

I think there is something to this but I don't know. I think it's more defined by those first ten years. If those first ten are rather static in terms of musical development, it reifies what music is for you. Sure after that you can make adjustments to accomodate, but ultimately that's your foundation. Conversely if those first ten are dynamic and include a wide range of changing sounds I think you're more apt to be open to future changes even beyond those first twenty years.

>You latch onto what's familiar and often reject what's
>not....

I honestly have never understood the rejection of music. Why. I mean even if you don't like it to reject it? I think this also comes from a digging mindset in me which says anything can become anything and as such nothing should be rejected out of pocket.

> but where we tend to go wrong is applying
>this "program" to everything new that we listen and then
>hating when it doesn't work.

Again that goes back to the foundation. If your program is static then yeah you'll have a problem. But if its dynamic there really isn't a program to apply, its just a matter of listening for what is new and appealing. If something isn't appealing at the time there's no need to hate, just move on to the next.

>When we were younger our musical ear was still developing...
>in turn we were excited by new sounds. We could seamlessly
>roll with multiple changes in sound and style without missing
>a beat. During this time we create the era of "good music".

See I'm of the mindset that stems from whoever said, an artists best work should always be their next work. The best era of music should always be the next one.

>Years later we'll talk about how much better everything was
>"back in the day" and offhandedly dismiss most new music as
>crap ... yeah there have been changes that have hurt the
>quality of music today I'm not going to denying this .... but
>the truth is not all those sounds back then were better than
>the new sounds today ... it's just we were still being
>programed then and were wide open to honestly consume what was
>in front of us.

I'm glad you used consume here because ultimately I don't think it has anything to do with sound, or at least very little. I think it has more to do with falling out of popular favor. In the listeners desire to be with the times, finding that which they don't readily associate with not being the in thing, and what they do find appealing being rejected by their younger counterparts, knee jerks a well that new shit sucks reaction. And it's almost the inverse. Yeah I'm not feeling that PE album it sounds dated. Oh yeah well what you got? Drake is hot. Drake sucks. But in this exchange an unfair parallel has been drawn and the elder has irresponsibly allowed it. While comparison is a valid tool in music it only works if there's appreciation. But it isn't up to the youth to teach the elder to appreciate its up to the elder to teach the youth to appreciate. Sure PE sounds dated, but can you appreciate the complexities inherent within it and how those set the stage for the music. Can you appreciate what it represented in its time. What does Drake in turn represent for his time. As an elder can you appreciate that. If here are values lost in the generation gap, those lines of appreciation will help bridge them. If that bridge isn't erected the gap becomes a canyon.

>We will deny we're the problem
>not the music but that doesn't make it any less true.... trust
>I've been there.

I agree with this but for the reasons I listed above.

> But if you want to actively consume
>and comment on new music in an honest way you're going to have
>to work a little... You will have to retrain yourself to
>really hear what you're listening to.

Put another way you will have to come to be appreciative of all music to comment on it fairly.

>This means fully
>committing and listening to artists and/or albums you aren't
>feeling right off. You will want to turn it off or skip tracks
>... this is your programming kicking in. You must override it
>this at all cost .... give it your full attention and don't
>skip ahead or let your mind drift off.... stay focused on what
>you're hearing.

I agree and disagree. There is a natural inclination that with repetition comes acceptance. But acceptance is not appreciation so to speak. You don't have to force feed yourself the stuff. Perhaps the hottest single isn't your best entrance into new music. There's a ton of other new stuff out there to bring you in. By example, Drake does nothing for me, and yet a cover of his song by another band made me realize, hey that's pretty good songwriting. Now I can go back and say yeah that new single isn't on par with his songwriting ability. Feel me?

>The new
>Rihanna truly hurt my soul... but man up and stick to the
>plan.

See but can you make three positive comments about it. How about three positive comments about her?
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>I think there is something to this but I don't know. I think
>it's more defined by those first ten years. If those first
>ten are rather static in terms of musical development, it
>reifies what music is for you.

I think you hit it with the first ten year thing. Because I'm sitting here thinking about my favorite period for music and it would have to be from like 75-84... but see if I look at that period my taste was hardly narrow. I mean from Al Jarreau to Prince and The Bee Gees to Slave is a pretty wide range of styles... but I guess it always has come down to being rhythmic for me though. So I guess that is my foundation... good points.

>I honestly have never understood the rejection of music. Why.
> I mean even if you don't like it to reject it? I think this
>also comes from a digging mindset in me which says anything
>can become anything and as such nothing should be rejected out
>of pocket.

>Again that goes back to the foundation. If your program is
>static then yeah you'll have a problem. But if its dynamic
>there really isn't a program to apply, its just a matter of
>listening for what is new and appealing. If something isn't
>appealing at the time there's no need to hate, just move on to
>the next.

Some people are just open from jump ... you are obviously one of them. You were the kind of kid the rest of us made fun of in high school lol. Your post is reminding me that peer pressure played a role in most peoples development to. Younger folks can have problems hearing too ... just for different reasons.


>I'm glad you used consume here because ultimately I don't
>think it has anything to do with sound, or at least very
>little. I think it has more to do with falling out of popular
>favor. In the listeners desire to be with the times, finding
>that which they don't readily associate with not being the in
>thing, and what they do find appealing being rejected by their
>younger counterparts, knee jerks a well that new shit sucks
>reaction. And it's almost the inverse. Yeah I'm not feeling
>that PE album it sounds dated. Oh yeah well what you got?
>Drake is hot. Drake sucks. But in this exchange an unfair
>parallel has been drawn and the elder has irresponsibly
>allowed it. While comparison is a valid tool in music it only
>works if there's appreciation. But it isn't up to the youth
>to teach the elder to appreciate its up to the elder to teach
>the youth to appreciate. Sure PE sounds dated, but can you
>appreciate the complexities inherent within it and how those
>set the stage for the music. Can you appreciate what it
>represented in its time. What does Drake in turn represent
>for his time. As an elder can you appreciate that. If here
>are values lost in the generation gap, those lines of
>appreciation will help bridge them. If that bridge isn't
>erected the gap becomes a canyon.
>Put another way you will have to come to be appreciative of
>all music to comment on it fairly.
>
There is a natural inclination that
>with repetition comes acceptance. But acceptance is not
>appreciation so to speak. You don't have to force feed
>yourself the stuff. Perhaps the hottest single isn't your
>best entrance into new music. There's a ton of other new
>stuff out there to bring you in. By example, Drake does
>nothing for me, and yet a cover of his song by another band
>made me realize, hey that's pretty good songwriting. Now I
>can go back and say yeah that new single isn't on par with his
>songwriting ability. Feel me?

I have come to respect some artist outside genres I listen to this way. Hearing another artist's take on a song can open you up to the song itself... more great points man. I don't see a couple listens as enough repetition that will burn something you don't like into your brain. But again I'm just giving an example of what works for me.

>>The new
>>Rihanna truly hurt my soul... but man up and stick to the
>>plan.
>
>See but can you make three positive comments about it. How
>about three positive comments about her?

Rude Boy is a good song ..... she's not awful looking ..... can I get back to you on a 3rd?

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Music education. Played a big part in my come up. I wanted to be a jazz pianist. When I started there were no jazz piano teachers around and so I had to learn from a classical frame of ref. I hated that music at the time. But HAD to learn it. Had to come to appreciate it if I wanted to do the music I wanted (it's not a necessity but I think it facilitated such in my case). If I hated on it, I couldn't learn piano. And in learning piano I came to appreciate it. And shit that was my first ten years of music. Not just listening to what I wanted and what those around me were introducing me to, but learning both through playin and general music education. Being made to listen and in my case play music I didn't care for teaches to appreciate forms beyond your general likes.

>Some people are just open from jump ... you are obviously one
>of them. You were the kind of kid the rest of us made fun of
>in high school lol.

Nah B. I was the kid that everyone came to cause I was boosting tapes and selling them shits for cheap. LOL!! And I knew what eeryone liked. It's wild because this was before release dates were all the talk. It was cats like me that let you know when new shit dropped... and who you could get it from. Before bootlegging there was boostin!!

>Your post is reminding me that peer
>pressure played a role in most peoples development to. Younger
>folks can have problems hearing too ... just for different
>reasons.

Indeed. Shit walkmen hit when I was what JH going into HS maybe. Cats had radios which meant you was listening to what others wanted to listen to. Personal listening was a privilege.


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fuck you.

I mean you've been an ass in the past yourself but I took the shit over the top the last couple weeks.
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and i took it out on the boards. so i apologize for that.

thanks for yours.

fuck you.

Cool now we can get back to fighting about shit without any bad blood lol
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>We will deny we're the problem
>not the music but that doesn't make it any less true.... trust
>I've been there.


So have I. Glad I'm there anymore though.


>You will want to turn it off or skip tracks
>... this is your programming kicking in. You must override it
>this at all cost ....


I lol'd at that. The visual... n/m


>Work hard enough and you will have a fully refurbished
>pair of ears to enjoy for years to come.


Of course you'll be accused of settling for crap music. Don't forget
that part.
Overall, I support this post!

I don't know if thats considered young or old, but I am still searching for new sounds and fresh takes on music. I think there's quite a bit of innovative stuff out, but I feel like mainstream music that's hitting for the teenager's has stagnated. I hear no innovation at all and I am listening hard for some.

Name some new stuff out that you feel is innovative that older people aren't giving a chance. I mean, if you want a 40 year old dude that likes new jack swing, Flying Lotus is a tough pill to swallow. But if you are talking about Drake or B.o.B., I hear absolutely nothing new and innovative there and I can defend that down to a molecular level because I do listen.

I remember a kid in high school that only liked 50s music. Dude was rockin' Penny Loafers, rolled up jeans and a conk. He'd always be turning his noise up at the shit we played and telling us how the music now sucked. I can remember a pack of burn outs that were all about the 60s too ... younger people that shut down to new music is rare but not unheard of.
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>I remember a kid in high school that only liked 50s music.
>Dude was rockin' Penny Loafers, rolled up jeans and a conk.
>He'd always be turning his noise up at the shit we played and
>telling us how the music now sucked. I can remember a pack of
>burn outs that were all about the 60s too ... younger people
>that shut down to new music is rare but not unheard of.
>

Minus the conk and loafers n shit, lol. People always said I had an old
soul though.

Nothin as deep as the 50's and 60's, but in HS, we'd blast old school funk like it was new.

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>Nothin as deep as the 50's and 60's, but in HS, we'd blast
>old school funk like it was new.

at first I thought it was just Ice Cube's generation doing that cause that's what they grew up hearing, but then Dam Funk (who might be included in that lot) was talking about the same shit. You hear that influence in a lot of "West Coast" artists, even if they don't do "G-Funk" all the time.

Madlib for example; a few folks here panned it, but my most FAVORITE project he ever did was his second Remixes project, called "Saturday Morning Edition". the second that shit started in with the Parliament samples, I started to crack a smile because I haven't heard it in hip-hop so long.

"More Bounce" has to be an unofficial L.A. anthem... one of my favorite uses of that shit was off W.C.'s old record w/Low Profile.

It just goes with the vibe and attitude here...sounds silly, but I feel like anybody who doesn't like West Coast Rap would be convinced if they heard it at a BBQ or drivin down Crenshaw on a good day.

Yea we definitely claim a lot of artists/songs...all the Roger, MC Breed "No future in ya front," Biggie "Goin back to Cali" etc etc

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only it is with '70s and '80s music.
hip hop sampled it, I recognized it from my early years in life, got deep into it, and never looked back.

But seriously, that describes everyone, and that's why I laugh so hard as my peers who are 25 like me. They ALL swear music was sooooo great in the 90's, and hate all the "crap" out now....but the ENTIRE damn 90's, our parents and older cousins/relatives were saying music was GARBAGE in the 90's, some of them hated all Rap while some felt 80's Rap was MUCH better. So this whole Coming of age thing is just funny as hell to see now.

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>But seriously, that describes everyone, and that's why I
>laugh so hard as my peers who are 25 like me. They ALL swear
>music was sooooo great in the 90's, and hate all the "crap"
>out now....but the ENTIRE damn 90's, our parents and older
>cousins/relatives were saying music was GARBAGE in the 90's,
>some of them hated all Rap while some felt 80's Rap was MUCH
>better. So this whole Coming of age thing is just funny as
>hell to see now.

The average age of the lesson is somewhere from 6-10 years younger than me ... so when I first came over here I was where a lot of folks are just getting to now. I could change the years and artists and a lot of these posts could have been written by me in 2001-2002. Watching the lesson age is fascinating.


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and styles?

Why do older music and styles - which have as little in common with what we grew up on as new material - and which we haven't been familiar with up to this point in our lives - frequently seem more appealing to us in our dotage than new music and styles?

(Or is that just happening to me?)

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You ain't the only one, friend.

most people under 30 have been exposed to so much music that they end up developing broader listening habits.... and I never said there wasn't more good music back in the day. Just that not everything old was great and everything new isn't crap.
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and I've discovered a lot of musical styles in my 30s through old fashioned ways... it's just that (almost) none of them are new.

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I mean I know for a fact it's impacted my listening habits
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but generally speaking most of the stuff I've learned about and love has come through the traditional methods.

If anything, the biggest difference is that shopping online has helped me buy stuff I wouldn't have been able to find in local shops... I don't have a portable .mp3 player and rarely listen to music via computer except for finding links for conversations here.

I do have a fair amount of music on my hard drive, but most of it actually dates to the old days, when to share something on here we had to rip it, then upload it to yousendit; or conversely, was downloaded before preview-play sites like zshare became the norm.

NOt trying to get into a pissing match...

*shrug*

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>NOt trying to get into a pissing match...
>
>*shrug*

was just curious ... hey everyone is different. I don't think your experience is the norm though.
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i think it's hard for me to understand this phenomenon because i haven't lived through enough phases of music, and because my listening spectrum is still pretty narrow. so to me, the major breaking points are: for rap, going from samples to keyboard s***, concurrently going from densely written and spit verses to much less ones; and for r&b, what i perceive to be just a general downward trend in songwriting. i can't say i'm versed enough in any other genre to delineate similarly. but what i'm saying is that i've only one sort of idiom to oppose to the other, so that makes it easier for me to say that one of them isn't as good as the other.

as far as looking backwards for new sounds and tending to appreciate that stuff more than contemporary music, i assume that's because time has done a pretty good job of filtering some of the noise. in my experience, most obscure music of the past is obscure for a reason. i'm assuming the breadth of options back in the day was pretty much what it is now. but because today's options are more readily available, it's easier to pick out the bad stuff and say there's more bad stuff than there was in, say, the seventies.

i think i pretty much know where i stand from here on out (i'm 27, btw), and that's gravitating towards stuff with good pop songwriting. i suppose i'm not interested in hearing someone reinvent the wheel. i just want to hear folks use what's out there and do it well. and there's a lot of new s*** that does that. but i'm not gonna put the time in to listen to b, plies, gaga or rihanna. i think i've just put myself in that old ears category.

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My grandmothers each loved themselves some Michael Jackson. one of my living grandmother's who is 93 still talks about seeing MJ's Appolo performance back in 68 with his brothers.


point being a young act that just got better with time and added something that modernize his thing over time for many decades. same can be said about Stevie Wonder, but MJ more so because he blended whatever was happening.

i listen and see so many acts daily,etc... problem is where are the money tracks?

in truth in any era or decade there are only a handful of top tier acts that represent that particular time.

Gaga,Beyonce,Usher,Alicia Keys, Myley Cyrus,etc.. are doing there thing and not worried about if the older ears dig them or not, however they do have fans of all ages and places.

MJ was a talent unlike anything we'll see again ... of course some older people gave him props ... but even then there were many that shut their ears to him because of the look and style. People that have closed off their ears rarely know they are doing it.
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i mean the part of the argument is to show that if given a chance or the fact that alot of people don't and stay in there lane.

Stevie wonder had that impact as well not quite as big, but nevertheless he tapped into alot of folks.

it can happen man just gotta have that "IT" songs and voice. you can strike a chord.

90% of the new shit doesn't make it past the "BS Meter" because it's not music. It's bullshit lyrics written for shock value, put to beats designed to appeal to the "idiot" section of our brains.

New artists of substance with good music will ALWAYS get heard. The trick to getting heard, is knowing how to get in the places where older folks are.

I sent my moms the new YahZarah joint, and she actually liked some of it. She's 55. Let THAT marinate sir.


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Remember, OldPro didn't say that older generations can't enjoy ANY music from younger generations, only that their brains become programmed to understand and appreciate only the sounds that they familiarized themselves with in the era of good music.

I'm not sure, having only Yah's rep to speak on, that she's any different than a hip-hopper clinging to Roc Marciano or Torae as guiding lights of the 'truth', rather than, say, an old Motown head trying to understand all the chutzpah over these new Flying Lotus and Burial releases.

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I agree some of the lyrics and titles make me cringe but let's not act like we haven't jammed to some shit our parents thought was just as ignorant.
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>I agree some of the lyrics and titles make me cringe but
>let's not act like we haven't jammed to some shit our parents
>thought was just as ignorant.

I wish I could cop a plea for Prince without venturing into Princestanian Territories but I just can't.

that song, while it wasn't using any explicit words, it was using explicit subject matter... and in the context of Prince's meager discography up until that point and the general climate of what was acceptable quasi-mainstream "conversation" in 1980... was fucked all the way up.

and yet, it was still nowhere as fucked up as the song that followed it on the record.... LMAO

>and yet, it was still nowhere as fucked up as the song that
>followed it on the record.... LMAO

I'm just glad the music wasn't funky so it was easy to just skip over lol
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because the groove and concept really didn't go with the album and it felt out of place. i mean the cat was talking War and being scary with everything else in between.

Prince put alot of draft type of stuff in his early 80's stuff and side projects. the Purple Politician.

but dude, FUCK CASSIE.

Yeah, Prince made nasty songs, so what? That nigga actually had/has talent. What that broad got? Flaming pussy lips that can "Fuck You Silly"?

knee
grow
please.

I will ALWAYS be cool with TALENTED mofos doing whatever their creative juices inspire, even if it goes past my personal thresholds of taste.

THAT GIRL HAS NO TALENT.

And guess what?

Neither do 90% of these other young mofos out here calling themselves R&B artists. They usually forget to put the word "scam" between the terms "R&B" and "artist" when speaking of themselves.

Yeah, I understand that R&B = rhythm and business, but a SUCCESSFUL artist can blend rhythm and commerce without seeming as if they're blatantly chasing a dollar.

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This song will brick pretty hard, and she'll just go back to modeling. She's as disposable as pop comes.

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I'm pushing 40 and I don't feel this way at all. Usually when I dismiss music its because I've heard it all before which is related to age, but more because I actually want to hear "new" stuff and am not hearing it.

Also, when people say music was better back in the day a lot of times they are going by percentages not absolutes. Most people aren't saying 100% of the music in -insert era here- is better than now, they are saying the cream of the crop back then is better than what is considered the cream of the crop now.

Shaun G.

Like these ideas were kinda bubbling around in my head but you just said them in such a cohesive way...it explains to me why a band like animal collective isn't catching on like i think they would

i think a point to be made is when you listen over time you DO see the pattern ("this sounds just like _____" or "this was better when _____ did it")

i think repetition breeds contempt

methinks when you're "new" to music it sounds fresh not because it is, but because you don't know any better

i *crave* something fresh and new and if you're just going to give me something reflective or derivative i'll just go back to the classics (and by that i don't mean what was new when i was young but back to something that is truly innovative)


i think this post is pandering to "new jacks" who don't like hearing just how the thing that is fresh and new to them isn't all that fresh and new

i think, generally, being a "dissmissive oldhead" who simply grunts about how wack everything now is, and how much better things were back then with no explanation of *why* is where we end up with this raged old vs new dichotomy

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>i think repetition breeds contempt
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>methinks when you're "new" to music it sounds fresh not
>because it is, but because you don't know any better
>
>i *crave* something fresh and new and if you're just going to
>give me something reflective or derivative i'll just go back
>to the classics (and by that i don't mean what was new when i
>was young but back to something that is truly innovative)
>
>

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Do I think the era I grew up in had better music? .... Yeah I do. I never said it didn't ... but I'm not ready to just shut down and live the rest of my life just listening to the same old songs year in year out. With the wide range of shit available today there's just no reason to ... but the idea I'm saying something I don't believe just to impress some faceless "new jacks" is one of the funniest things I've read on here in a while. People that have read my posts over the years know damn well I don't post to be liked by any one group... I just call shit as I see it.
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it's cool you've had this epiphany/revelation about YOU

but to project that onto everyone is specious at best

and, for the sake of the conversation, only replying to that one point in response makes it seem even more suspicious

no need for flames tho

this COULD be an interesting topic to discuss

with the same complaints it's not a big jump to realize their head is in the same place mine once was. Look what I'm saying here really isn't groundbreaking ... but it does take an epiphany after you've already settled in to your comfort zone. Change never comes easy but for some it never comes at all.

>and, for the sake of the conversation, only replying to that
>one point in response makes it seem even more suspicious

Honestly man the other stuff didn't interest me enough to respond.

>no need for flames tho

Fam you getting the wrong vibe then cause I ain't even trippin

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This really explains a lot of my listening habits. Especially the program/habit (which is essentially my taste) that I fall in to.

https://digife.com

Music is better now then it ever was.
Some artist we champion would not survive in the digital age, the comp is stiff out here
that old shit niggas was just hybrids of each other

So... its not your ears; some of the new music just - sucks.

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and think you have a point, BUT...

im in my early thirties and just started getting into a lot of music outside of the hiphop/r&b/soul realm.

i'll have to admit that i have more trouble getting into recent Hip Hop developments though, but seriously, it's almost like it's a whole different musical genre from 15 years ago

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