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"Jay-z can't believe "big pimpin's" lyrics"


          

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/320028/jay-z-cant-believe-some-of-the-lyrics-hes-written/

  

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is it cos he's pretending to be straight?
Oct 23rd 2010
2
sounds Tom-ish to me
Oct 23rd 2010
3
actually its the exact OPPOSITE of Tom-ish
Oct 23rd 2010
25
      changing his tune now that he runs with a white crowd isn't tom-ish?
Oct 24th 2010
38
           yeah! black people should spite whitey by never reconsidering their opin...
Oct 24th 2010
42
                lmao. social responsibility is so lame!
Oct 24th 2010
48
lol at jigga trying to be socially responsible
Oct 23rd 2010
4
you know
Oct 23rd 2010
5
      a pimp in EVERY sense of the word...
Oct 23rd 2010
6
      i'm surprised that it's taken this long, actually.
Oct 23rd 2010
9
Jigga man you're rich
Oct 23rd 2010
7
lol i thought about that line too
Oct 24th 2010
70
did he finally realize that he said heart colded assassin? n/m.
Oct 23rd 2010
10
pretty sure that was "heart cold as assassin's"
Oct 23rd 2010
11
that makes sense. lol.
Oct 23rd 2010
12
      lol
Oct 24th 2010
43
      lmao
Oct 24th 2010
65
      AHAHAHA!
Oct 25th 2010
82
      lmao, well played
Oct 25th 2010
106
Hardco' to the sad sense?
Oct 24th 2010
69
RE: did he finally realize that he said heart colded assassin? n/m.
Oct 25th 2010
94
      http://i41.tinypic.com/14kgvpk.jpg
Oct 25th 2010
96
abused as a child, scared to smile.. they called him ugly?
Oct 23rd 2010
13
Jiggaman, yo tits, put that shirt back on
Oct 24th 2010
72
this book will be a giant waste of time if
Oct 23rd 2010
14
i have always defended jay-z's right to "move on up"
Oct 23rd 2010
15
AMEN !!!!
Oct 23rd 2010
16
or anyone w/ a conscious n/m
Oct 23rd 2010
17
right?
Oct 23rd 2010
21
you're wrong and that's corny as shit:
Oct 23rd 2010
24
Em's wrong & corny or Jay or both?
Oct 24th 2010
68
      not in a genre that prides itself on "keeping it real"
Oct 25th 2010
81
           That's on you, if you ever believed that
Oct 27th 2010
134
                RE: That's on you, if you ever believed that
Oct 27th 2010
135
                     most people grow out of magic when they become adults
Oct 27th 2010
138
word. is like he's apologising for entertaining us...lol
Oct 23rd 2010
26
word dog. word.
Oct 23rd 2010
27
Ohhh so that's what this is about. Yall feel attacked.
Oct 24th 2010
51
      no.
Oct 24th 2010
71
           That's yalls fault though
Oct 25th 2010
77
                jesus fkn christ.
Oct 25th 2010
78
                     I've had too many discussion with young folks who do
Oct 25th 2010
98
                          The changing standards in hip-hop isn't discussed enough...
Oct 25th 2010
109
                          That's true. The standards are changing now.
Oct 25th 2010
113
                               DING!
Oct 27th 2010
143
                          ...and Ice Cube was a hardened thug from the streets (sarcasm).
Oct 26th 2010
117
                               Still people been called out for being "fake" and rapping shit
Oct 26th 2010
120
                                    k.
Oct 26th 2010
131
                                         RE: k.
Oct 26th 2010
132
That would be bad for his image....
Oct 25th 2010
99
He's having a Stringer Bell moment.
Oct 23rd 2010
29
      lol...well that was Stringer's eventual downfall.
Oct 23rd 2010
32
           Basically. Also. Did you know you can youtube link
Oct 23rd 2010
33
                Thanks for the youtube hint
Oct 24th 2010
35
                well, damn. thx. n/m.
Oct 24th 2010
46
RE: Jay-z can't believe "big pimpin's" lyrics
Oct 23rd 2010
18
"Hah-Ha" (c) Jay-Z
Oct 23rd 2010
19
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 25th 2010
85
postjack: that might be my favorite Busta song ever
Oct 25th 2010
107
typical
Oct 23rd 2010
20
Right? WTF is wrong with people?
Oct 24th 2010
49
so appalled.
Oct 23rd 2010
22
he said "gee, maybe when I was younger I was a little crass"
Oct 23rd 2010
23
The nigga was like 30. FOH.
Oct 23rd 2010
30
      Yup.
Oct 25th 2010
86
           an 30 means you know it all and are a complete adult?
Oct 26th 2010
127
                yes, you are supposed to be "a complete adult" by 30
Oct 26th 2010
129
Good for him
Oct 23rd 2010
28
WRONG HE ISN'T KEEPING IT REAL ENOUGH
Oct 23rd 2010
31
Word.
Oct 23rd 2010
34
What you are saying isn't what he said. He's completely denouncing
Oct 24th 2010
40
      in a few words, you said it better than i did n/m
Oct 24th 2010
58
      In short(er):
Oct 25th 2010
101
      It's worth denouncing as an attitude
Oct 24th 2010
62
           Nah you're just reading it wrong.
Oct 24th 2010
75
                Disappointment with himself for the inhumane attitude toward women
Oct 25th 2010
76
                     That's assuming that Jay-Z says as Sean Carter feels.
Oct 26th 2010
125
                          These are his words, not me making assumptions
Oct 27th 2010
142
Who the fuck doesn't mature and age at some point?
Oct 24th 2010
36
i here you but the nigga was 29 or 30 when that shit came out
Oct 24th 2010
41
RE: i here you but the nigga was 29 or 30 when that shit came out
Oct 25th 2010
95
what part of ANIMAL are you not reading?
Oct 24th 2010
44
Good point, I agree with you there.
Oct 25th 2010
93
GTFOH
Oct 24th 2010
45
Lay Z wrote that mess and it is all him
Oct 24th 2010
37
This makes me even more frustrated that BP3 was so lackluster lyrically
Oct 24th 2010
39
RE: This makes me even more frustrated that BP3 was so lackluster lyrica...
Oct 25th 2010
79
^^^talkin bout fiction, not talkin bout fact
Oct 25th 2010
80
lol i wonder what YOU have to think about all this ...
Oct 25th 2010
83
it was? he rapped his ass off on that one, i thought
Oct 25th 2010
88
      he did, if Timbaland never showed up, that's a great album
Oct 25th 2010
108
      He didn't say a single interesting thing on the whole album.
Oct 26th 2010
130
shit, i can't believe them lyrics neither...they always rang hollow to m...
Oct 24th 2010
47
most of you are fucking idiots
Oct 24th 2010
50
you can probably *really* relate to this
Oct 24th 2010
52
basically.
Oct 25th 2010
111
RE: most of you are fucking idiots
Oct 24th 2010
53
^ More 'Empire State of Mind' than 'Where I'm From'
Oct 24th 2010
59
RE: ^ More 'Empire State of Mind' than 'Where I'm From'
Oct 24th 2010
67
      Do I need to make a wiki page for u to get it?
Oct 24th 2010
74
           RE: Do I need to make a wiki page for u to get it?
Oct 26th 2010
133
                oh wait, you thought i was replying to you, in my reply to Bartek? smh
Oct 28th 2010
145
don't give Jay a pass because he was 30 and making songs for teens
Oct 24th 2010
60
      Folks need to really check that Interview he did w/ Bill Maher
Oct 25th 2010
103
It needs a subject line: JAY-Z WAS *30* CIRCA BIG PIMPIN.
Oct 24th 2010
54
Horrible precedent.
Oct 24th 2010
55
haha
Oct 24th 2010
57
Big Pimpin >>> Empire State of Mind
Oct 24th 2010
56
He expressed regret on the very next single released after Big Pimpin
Oct 24th 2010
61
lmao @ your avi
Oct 24th 2010
63
Jay's always said whatever his target audience wants to hear
Oct 24th 2010
64
Yeah, Im too lazy to search
Oct 24th 2010
66
He said when READ on paper they sound crazy QUOTE
Oct 24th 2010
73
^^^^^
Oct 26th 2010
119
He said when READ on paper they sound crazy QUOTE
Oct 27th 2010
139
I stopped at "Love... Even NWA... was about love..."
Oct 25th 2010
84
if there was still such a thing as selling out, this guy would be guilty
Oct 25th 2010
87
Always like UGK's verses better anyways...
Oct 25th 2010
89
all day (re: Bun and Pimp's verses> )
Oct 25th 2010
90
What's wrong with that people ?
Oct 25th 2010
91
Spectating placeholder...
Oct 25th 2010
92
This is no different from DOA or saying he wants to be like Kweli
Oct 25th 2010
97
RE: This is no different from DOA or saying he wants to be like Kweli
Oct 26th 2010
115
      No need in making sense in this post fam.
Oct 26th 2010
116
      RE: This is no different from DOA or saying he wants to be like Kweli
Oct 26th 2010
122
Read em n' weap ya wild hunnid animals
Oct 25th 2010
100
Now why would he be ashamed of that....
Oct 25th 2010
102
      RE: Now why would he be ashamed of that....
Oct 25th 2010
104
           or inside a valentine card perhaps
Oct 25th 2010
105
                -perfectly stated
Oct 26th 2010
128
15 years in, Jay still moving the mad meter in here
Oct 25th 2010
110
sounds like the power of the P...
Oct 25th 2010
112
it's just uneasy..like..with..the....just...it's hard...very vulgar.
Oct 25th 2010
114
lmao
Oct 26th 2010
124
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDDbEJAEIg
Oct 27th 2010
141
this is in direct response to beys interaction w GEMS
Oct 26th 2010
118
LOL @ this grey poupon ass nigga!
Oct 26th 2010
121
unless he gives the money he made off it back I don't givv a fok what he...
Oct 26th 2010
123
He does alot of charity donation so he might have already.
Oct 26th 2010
126
      I get where you're going with it, but its not the same thing
Oct 27th 2010
136
           Suicide is pretty much the only way he could stop profitting from it
Oct 27th 2010
137
                he could take all his royalties from it and donate that shit
Oct 28th 2010
144
"I make 'Big Pimpin' or 'Give It to Me,' one of those, ya'll hail me
Oct 27th 2010
140

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2. "is it cos he's pretending to be straight?"
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3. "sounds Tom-ish to me"
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25. "actually its the exact OPPOSITE of Tom-ish"
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38. "changing his tune now that he runs with a white crowd isn't tom-ish?"
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42. "yeah! black people should spite whitey by never reconsidering their opin..."
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you're a fucking retard.

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48. "lmao. social responsibility is so lame!"
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4. "lol at jigga trying to be socially responsible"
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5. "you know"
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cleaning up his image for WSJ and Forbes, fuck outta here

  

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6. "a pimp in EVERY sense of the word..."
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9. "i'm surprised that it's taken this long, actually."
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7. "Jigga man you're rich "
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take the doo rag off" - some bourgie broad

  

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70. "lol i thought about that line too"
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Everybody's got opinions on the way you're living but see they can't fill your shoes... Life is made of half-illusions... forty percent confusion, whatever's left I'm using... to keep myself from losing, yeah.

  

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10. "did he finally realize that he said heart colded assassin? n/m."
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11. "pretty sure that was "heart cold as assassin's""
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12. "that makes sense. lol."
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unfortunately, that's not what i'd been hearing all these years.

now excuse me while i kiss this guy.

n/h.

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43. "lol"
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65. "lmao"
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82. "AHAHAHA!"
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I knew some people who would say it like that knowing it was wrong, but oh so funny.

  

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106. "lmao, well played"
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>unfortunately, that's not what i'd been hearing all these
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>now excuse me while i kiss this guy.
>
>n/h.

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69. "Hardco' to the sad sense?"
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Everybody's got opinions on the way you're living but see they can't fill your shoes... Life is made of half-illusions... forty percent confusion, whatever's left I'm using... to keep myself from losing, yeah.

  

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94. "RE: did he finally realize that he said heart colded assassin? n/m."
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13. "abused as a child, scared to smile.. they called him ugly?"
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72. "Jiggaman, yo tits, put that shirt back on"
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Everybody's got opinions on the way you're living but see they can't fill your shoes... Life is made of half-illusions... forty percent confusion, whatever's left I'm using... to keep myself from losing, yeah.

  

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14. "this book will be a giant waste of time if"
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he doesnt talk about You Must Love Me

most politicians here dont know the difference between a server and a waiter. thats why kids in south korea have better internet access than kids in the south bronx

  

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15. "i have always defended jay-z's right to "move on up""
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it was clear it meant alot to him to hang out with moneyed white people and it gave him joy when they referred to him as their "friend". nothing wrong with a kid from the projects wanting to be accepted by a world that he had only seen from the outside.

but this right here crosses the line.

"what kind of an animal would do that?"
this sounds like something that would be said from the point of view of his "friends" parents or even grandparents if they were alive. which is alarmingly pathetic. he is deeply embarrassed of himself now that he has to look at himself from a conservative viewpoint.

it has nothing to do with growing up. he is over-reacting. it's like he wants so badly to be somebody new but he feels burdened by 10 years of recorded music that paint him as somebody else.

does it ever occur to him that who he was is what got him to where he is. he wants to be seen as a business man for owning minority stakes in other people's projects but his biggest source of success is still being a rapper. as much as he wants us to think he is bigger than rap.

  

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16. "AMEN !!!!"
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couldn't have said it better.

  

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17. "or anyone w/ a conscious n/m"
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>but this right here crosses the line.
>
>"what kind of an animal would do that?"
>this sounds like something that would be said from the point
>of view of his "friends" parents or even grandparents if they
>were alive.

most politicians here dont know the difference between a server and a waiter. thats why kids in south korea have better internet access than kids in the south bronx

  

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21. "right?"
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he should have taken the Eminem route and just said (paraphrasing): "my lyrics are a part of the character I use for my art and those lyrics are meant to be artistic expression; they don't always represent me or my life personally. then that would be that."

don't be fkn evil.

  

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24. "you're wrong and that's corny as shit:"
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>he should have taken the Eminem route and just said
>(paraphrasing): "my lyrics are a part of the character I use
>for my art and those lyrics are meant to be artistic
>expression; they don't always represent me or my life
>personally. then that would be that."

  

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68. "Em's wrong & corny or Jay or both?"
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That's what basically what Em said in his last major outlet interview.
The lamest part is that for some reason, some people think the artist IS his art. They are entirely separable as they should be.

don't be fkn evil.

  

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81. "not in a genre that prides itself on "keeping it real""
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to cop out and say "it's a character" is stupid. Maybe Slim Shady is a character, but they're pitching this awful recovery album as him finally getting clean and dropping gimmicks.

  

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134. "That's on you, if you ever believed that"
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"Keeping it real" is about the last fucking thing most hip hop does. They're selling an image and telling stories that are at best enormous exaggerations of anything real. In many cases it's pure fiction.

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135. "RE: That's on you, if you ever believed that"
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right, but if you're selling an image you're not supposed to tell people thats what you're doing...magicians aint supposed to reveal their tricks.

http://www.youtube.com/user/gumzization
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138. "most people grow out of magic when they become adults"
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Some of us just want well-written songs, even if we know the process behind them.

  

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26. "word. is like he's apologising for entertaining us...lol"
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so are we all "animals" for rapping and dancing along to big pimping?

  

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27. "word dog. word."
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51. "Ohhh so that's what this is about. Yall feel attacked."
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>so are we all "animals" for rapping and dancing along to big
>pimping?

  

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71. "no. "
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it's that we expect him to be smarter than this.

he is not his art. no one is asking him to be. that he's apologizing for his artistic output and conflating himself with the actual art is the problem.

don't be fkn evil.

  

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77. "That's yalls fault though"
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>he is not his art. no one is asking him to be. that he's
>apologizing for his artistic output and conflating himself
>with the actual art is the problem.


You're expecting him to separate himself from the art but what he's
saying is that he isn't separate from his art. If the nigga is telling
you that he IS his art then how you tell him he isn't?
He's telling you this shit is first person accounts for him.
Plus you don't speak for everybody and some people DO expect the nigga
to BE what he's saying he is on record.

  

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78. "jesus fkn christ."
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who exactly expects Jay-Z (or any rapper for that matter) to be a murdering drug dealer/pimp (to use an example)? you? seriously?

in a similar manner, do you expect Gene Simmons to be a kabuki-paint wearing demon aka god of thunder that really spits blood & fire instead of a business-savvy businessman?

do you think Harvey Keitel really is the Bad Lieutenant too?


I hope you realize you are making a ridiculous leap of logic there.
if you don't, then there is no point in having any more discussion with you.

don't be fkn evil.

  

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98. "I've had too many discussion with young folks who do"
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>who exactly expects Jay-Z (or any rapper for that matter) to
>be a murdering drug dealer/pimp (to use an example)? you?
>seriously?
>

No. Not me. I said some people do.

>in a similar manner, do you expect Gene Simmons to be a
>kabuki-paint wearing demon aka god of thunder that really
>spits blood & fire instead of a business-savvy businessman?
>
>do you think Harvey Keitel really is the Bad Lieutenant too?
>


*Sigh* Here we go again. Rap is unique in that way because a large
percentage of its artists speak actual shit. The "keep it real"
movement or whatever you want to call it. NWA were some of the first
to be on this. And YOU are crazy if you think rap isn't unique in
that way. Why do you think Rick Ross being "exposed" is even a topic
of discussion. Why do you think people get called out for rapping
shit that they ain't about? Does this happen in rock? It doesn't
happen to actors because they're fucking actors.

>
>I hope you realize you are making a ridiculous leap of logic
>there.



I hope you realize that comparing rap to rock and movies is silly.

  

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109. "The changing standards in hip-hop isn't discussed enough..."
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>*Sigh* Here we go again. Rap is unique in that way because a
>large
>percentage of its artists speak actual shit. The "keep it
>real"
>movement or whatever you want to call it.


I think this used to be a regular practice in hip-hop. But standards started changing and cats began representing themselves as something they really weren't. And with the changing demographics of the hip-hop audience, that practice has become more and more accepted.

Sucka MCs & fake MCs used to be easy targets. That's not the case anymore. Now, MCs can rap about whatever they want, however they want as long as it sounds good or moves units.

  

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113. "That's true. The standards are changing now."
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But of course Jay ain't from this new school of rap. Hence him being
disgusted by his lyrics and looking at this whole situation the way he
does.

Let's not forget that he's the guy who's said on more than one occasion
that he LIVED it and that all his shit is real talk. He's the cat who
accused Nas of creating his life in his notepad. If "it's all just
entertainment" none of that would even matter to Jay.


> I think this used to be a regular practice in hip-hop. But
>standards started changing and cats began representing
>themselves as something they really weren't. And with the
>changing demographics of the hip-hop audience, that practice
>has become more and more accepted.
>
> Sucka MCs & fake MCs used to be easy targets. That's not the
>case anymore. Now, MCs can rap about whatever they want,
>however they want as long as it sounds good or moves units.

  

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143. "DING!"
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I think she has Checkmate...

  

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117. "...and Ice Cube was a hardened thug from the streets (sarcasm)."
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the lack of logic displayed by your points is baffling.

don't be fkn evil.

  

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120. "Still people been called out for being "fake" and rapping shit"
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they don't actually live. The way you're ignoring that point is what's
baffling. You can ignore the "keep it real" factor if you like.

  

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131. "k."
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I'll ignore you keeping it wrong.

don't be fkn evil.

  

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132. "RE: k."
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Call it what you want. It's still denial.

  

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99. "That would be bad for his image...."
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>he should have taken the Eminem route and just said
>(paraphrasing): "my lyrics are a part of the character I use
>for my art and those lyrics are meant to be artistic
>expression; they don't always represent me or my life
>personally. then that would be that."

^^^He would then be admitting that he isn't nor has ever been the very real "real live dude" that he has built his following upon..

He does not want to lose "the streets"

I think he's saying these things (animal reference) to prompt his new friends (...and fans by extension) to look further into his life (at some point)...

...when he of course will be comfortable enough to "disclose" certain aspects "safely"....

Dude is trying real hard to build a mystique that will pay forward in his new social circles.


He's trying to have his movie made.


"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

  

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29. "He's having a Stringer Bell moment."
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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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32. "lol...well that was Stringer's eventual downfall."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkVohPC_YpU&feature=related
1:44 "What I tell you about playing them fucking away games?"

  

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33. "Basically. Also. Did you know you can youtube link"
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to the precise minute and second. It's possible to do right on Youtube. No need for a third party.

Hashtage T for time = ____m for minutes ___ for seconds


#t=1m44s

just at that to the end of the video url. Here's what you'll get:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkVohPC_YpU#t=1m44s

And it'll take you str8 there.

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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35. "Thanks for the youtube hint"
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I did not know how to do that directly

  

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46. "well, damn. thx. n/m."
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------------------------------------------
latest mixtape:
https://www.mixcloud.com/mistamonotone/music-to-smack-motherfckers-to/

mistamonotone - taboo
http://mistamonotone.bandcamp.com/album/taboo

@mistamonotone
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18. "RE: Jay-z can't believe "big pimpin's" lyrics"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOaH6YU6v9s

  

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19. ""Hah-Ha" (c) Jay-Z"
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOaH6YU6v9s

One of the few songs where I enjoyed Rampage's verses.

  

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85. "LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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107. "postjack: that might be my favorite Busta song ever"
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.

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

https://twitter.com/nostrabombus

https://www.facebook.com/matt.koelling.96

https://www.instagram.com/something_in_the_wudder/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-koelling-438a80

  

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20. "typical"
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dude looks back on a misogynist, chauvinistic verse and expresses regret for bring so negative, and people on a mssg board still find a way to put the man down, amazing.

PEACE LOVE and MONEY

https://soundcloud.com/dabeatnik/drumpf-beer

  

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49. "Right? WTF is wrong with people?"
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>dude looks back on a misogynist, chauvinistic verse and
>expresses regret for bring so negative, and people on a mssg
>board still find a way to put the man down, amazing.

  

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22. "so appalled."
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nah really couldn't give a fuck less, it's a bullshit power move, think he won't whip out the usual on his next album? I heavily doubt the next one's going to be clean. I don't care if Jay continues to infiltrate the corporate world, as long as the music stays fresh (which BP3, and all the guest features he's done lately proves), I don't care what he does off the mic.

  

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23. "he said "gee, maybe when I was younger I was a little crass""
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and you guys are calling him an uncle tom.

faggot ass haters living in grandma's basement

  

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30. "The nigga was like 30. FOH."
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We live in a crass culture.

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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86. "Yup. "
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127. "an 30 means you know it all and are a complete adult? "
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jus saying


Drokayplayer ™


>you're like the most known unknown poster
- Mr. Buildingblock

  

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129. "yes, you are supposed to be "a complete adult" by 30"
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trust fund babies may get passes in their lives, but those passes shouldn't extend to someone from marcy projects

when jay was 30 rapping this song, i knew it was morally reprehensible and misogynistic garbage at 17... it doesn't mean it has no place in art or a person is an "animal" for expressing these views

  

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28. "Good for him"
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It's easy to be cynical about his reasons for saying this, but the man is married now, so just maybe he does look back and shake his head a little.

  

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31. "WRONG HE ISN'T KEEPING IT REAL ENOUGH "
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HE'S AN UNCLE TOM WHO'S INSULTING OUR INTELLIGENCE.

  

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34. "Word."
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Because he is.

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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40. "What you are saying isn't what he said. He's completely denouncing"
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>It's easy to be cynical about his reasons for saying this,
>but the man is married now, so just maybe he does look back
>and shake his head a little.

those types of sentiments. He isn't just criticizing himself, he's implying that that type of attitude/perspective has no place in work of art. And that is total bullshit.

Your hustle might get you knocked, why would I knock your hustle?

  

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58. "in a few words, you said it better than i did n/m"
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> He isn't just criticizing himself,
>he's implying that that type of attitude/perspective has no
>place in work of art. And that is total bullshit.
>

  

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101. "In short(er):"
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No one else should get to eat off these animalistic references (Jay's HATING!!!!)


"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

  

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62. "It's worth denouncing as an attitude"
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I don't see that as being the same as saying it doesn't have any place in art. I didn't read that in to what he said.

  

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75. "Nah you're just reading it wrong."
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>I don't see that as being the same as saying it doesn't have
>any place in art. I didn't read that in to what he said.

Please tell me what Jay-Z is referencing in the following sentence.
"What kind of animal would say this sort of thing?"


Your hustle might get you knocked, why would I knock your hustle?

  

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76. "Disappointment with himself for the inhumane attitude toward women"
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That he projected in some of his songs

  

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125. "That's assuming that Jay-Z says as Sean Carter feels."
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>That he projected in some of his songs

That's also assuming that rap artists stands wholeheartedly behind their rap persona. I'm not making any assumptions, he called himself an animal for rapping those lyrics.

Your hustle might get you knocked, why would I knock your hustle?

  

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142. "These are his words, not me making assumptions"
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I don't assume to know him, or how he views himself as a person in relation to himself as an artist, I'm just interpreting this specific statement, and it doesn't seem very ambiguous to me.

  

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36. "Who the fuck doesn't mature and age at some point?"
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If he didn't look back on some of his lyrics with a level of apprehension there would be much SMH'ing at his inability to grow.

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41. "i here you but the nigga was 29 or 30 when that shit came out"
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95. "RE: i here you but the nigga was 29 or 30 when that shit came out"
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you not allowed to grow up after 30?

  

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44. "what part of ANIMAL are you not reading?"
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93. "Good point, I agree with you there."
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45. "GTFOH "
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>If he didn't look back on some of his lyrics with a level of
>apprehension there would be much SMH'ing at his inability to
>grow.
>
>

  

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37. "Lay Z wrote that mess and it is all him"
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like suddenly that turkey is hanging out with rich White folks and now he thinks he is all Bryant Gumbel and whatnot? Lay Z still is a One note turkey and he outta claim that Hit song, since that is the last time his corny self had any edge.

Lay Z since 03 done become a Kenny G of Rap. a One note Johnny.

  

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39. "This makes me even more frustrated that BP3 was so lackluster lyrically"
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If Jay is a "changed man" or whatever, then I want to see him put out a product that shows it.

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79. "RE: This makes me even more frustrated that BP3 was so lackluster lyrica..."
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thats what i was thinking...he's on some do as i say not as i do -ish on here.

http://www.youtube.com/user/gumzization
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80. "^^^talkin bout fiction, not talkin bout fact"
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Amritsar
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83. "lol i wonder what YOU have to think about all this ..."
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spin away H spin away!!

  

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88. "it was? he rapped his ass off on that one, i thought"
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108. "he did, if Timbaland never showed up, that's a great album"
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>

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

https://twitter.com/nostrabombus

https://www.facebook.com/matt.koelling.96

https://www.instagram.com/something_in_the_wudder/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-koelling-438a80

  

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130. "He didn't say a single interesting thing on the whole album."
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Matter of fact, it's probably his worst solo album ever in hindsight.

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47. "shit, i can't believe them lyrics neither...they always rang hollow to m..."
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just some braggadocio boasts
at the time
eh

...a child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind, god is smilin' on you and frownin' too, because only god knows what you gonna do...©melle mel

  

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50. "most of you are fucking idiots"
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as if a person cannot grow and look on his past with some shame

i bet all of your pasts are sparkling and you have never said anything stupid.


morons.

  

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52. "you can probably *really* relate to this"
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>as if a person cannot grow and look on his past with some
>shame
>
>i bet all of your pasts are sparkling and you have never said
>anything stupid.

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drmindriot
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111. "basically."
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53. "RE: most of you are fucking idiots"
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When I posted this, I thought the convo would go like this.

  

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59. "^ More 'Empire State of Mind' than 'Where I'm From' "
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>as if a person cannot grow and look on his past with some
>shame
>
>i bet all of your pasts are sparkling and you have never said
>anything stupid.
>
>
>morons.

  

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67. "RE: ^ More 'Empire State of Mind' than 'Where I'm From' "
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Really?

  

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Amritsar
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74. "Do I need to make a wiki page for u to get it? "
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>Really?


?

  

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Dupree90
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133. "RE: Do I need to make a wiki page for u to get it? "
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nah fam, I'm actualy neither one.

  

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145. "oh wait, you thought i was replying to you, in my reply to Bartek? smh"
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60. "don't give Jay a pass because he was 30 and making songs for teens"
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Jay remained niggerish well into his 30's. nigga sound like Chris Martin in this interview. "i can't believe my friend made these songs."

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103. "Folks need to really check that Interview he did w/ Bill Maher"
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That shit was disgusting.

He makes a point to omit how many artists and emcees shoulders he's standing on.

He has no problem soaking up all this praise from his non urban audiences without putting the kulture (and how he benefited)into proper context.

He is citing and setting himself up as *the* authority and architect of HipHop to an audience that does not understand the pain and misfortune that birthed it and don't know any better.

There is a difference between being a Hip Hoppa (per KRS ONE) and an emcee versus being a rapper who benefits from the wholesale (some would say theft) of a *piece* of Hip Hop Kulture.


Son is straight up violating.


"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

  

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54. "It needs a subject line: JAY-Z WAS *30* CIRCA BIG PIMPIN."
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he is full of shit.

  

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55. "Horrible precedent."
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Like everyone said before; Grow up by all means, but don't disavow.

lol@animal. Jay-Z sounding a little too Tribeca there.

  

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57. "haha"
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> Jay-Z sounding a little too Tribeca there.

  

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56. "Big Pimpin >>> Empire State of Mind"
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I'd say his last three albums actually but I digress.
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61. "He expressed regret on the very next single released after Big Pimpin"
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sans "animal" comment of course.

Hey Papi (Alternate Version) (feat. Amil):

http://usershare.net/qdhf0jipx6xq

Ay yo, I got a resolution... this year I'm playing right
No 6:15 this year, you can stay the night
We can go bowling, it ain't like before
Can't y'all see that I'm growing? I was so immature
I was young and having money
Having honeys come to the crib
Dig in they shit, and they couldn't get cab money from me
Some bad chicks didn't get past the bridge
I went to One Trump Plaza on their ass-es-es'
No room service just snacks and shit
Work with those Lil' Debbies and when your done get ready
The chicks I was fiendin' to smash
Let 'em lean on the cash, take 'em on long trips
Break 'em with long dick
There was no such thing as strong relationships
But I'm off that playa shit
I need a chick that practice Tai Chi... that still can buy weed
And can give me some good head, and I'll make her a mami
You hear me?

mind
--------
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63. "lmao @ your avi"
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what the hell is that this time ?


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64. "Jay's always said whatever his target audience wants to hear"
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One would expect a Forbes business to express regret at his actions at the young age of 30.

Don't worry. His next album will still be full of boasts about his former life as a drug kingpin.

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66. "Yeah, Im too lazy to search"
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But Im pretty sure Jay-Z has recently threatened to murder at least one person on wax recently, even if its the metaphoric 'I only mean on wax' type sense.

  

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73. "He said when READ on paper they sound crazy QUOTE"
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Picture Jay in his laid back posture saying this in the manner in which he typically speaks in interviews. Now tell me if you think he meant I DENOUNCE ALL MY PAST LYRICAL TRANSGRESSIONS AND PROFESS TO A LIFE OF 2000s ERA CONSCIENCE PSEUDO POLITICAL WHITE ACCEPTED ANTHEMS?


"WSJ: You're famous for not writing your lyrics down as you compose them. What changes about them when you see them on the page like this?

Jay-Z: Some become really profound when you see them in writing. Not "Big Pimpin." That's THE exception. It was like, I can't believe I said that. And kept saying it. What kind of animal would say this sort of thing? Reading it is really harsh."

Everybody's got opinions on the way you're living but see they can't fill your shoes... Life is made of half-illusions... forty percent confusion, whatever's left I'm using... to keep myself from losing, yeah.

  

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119. "^^^^^"
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Lol at almost EVERYBODY in here misinterpreting what he said.

>Picture Jay in his laid back posture saying this in the
>manner in which he typically speaks in interviews. Now tell me
>if you think he meant I DENOUNCE ALL MY PAST LYRICAL
>TRANSGRESSIONS AND PROFESS TO A LIFE OF 2000s ERA CONSCIENCE
>PSEUDO POLITICAL WHITE ACCEPTED ANTHEMS?
>
>
>"WSJ: You're famous for not writing your lyrics down as you
>compose them. What changes about them when you see them on the
>page like this?
>
>Jay-Z: Some become really profound when you see them
>in writing. Not "Big Pimpin." That's THE exception. It was
>like, I can't believe I said that. And kept saying it. What
>kind of animal would say this sort of thing? Reading it is
>really harsh."

  

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139. "He said when READ on paper they sound crazy QUOTE"
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Exactly

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Good music in my life, it makes me happy

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84. "I stopped at "Love... Even NWA... was about love...""
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foh Jay.

  

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87. "if there was still such a thing as selling out, this guy would be guilty"
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THat said, I'm a fan. He's right about those lyrics, though.

  

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89. "Always like UGK's verses better anyways..."
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But why are people mad?? You aint never done some shit or said some shit and looked back on it and said, "Damn, wish I hadn't said that..." Well, unlike you, Jay recorded his shit and sold it to the masses... If he don't like what he said, then he don't like it... Don't mean that you can't still like it...

  

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90. "all day (re: Bun and Pimp's verses> ) "
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>But why are people mad?? You aint never done some shit or
>said some shit and looked back on it and said, "Damn, wish I
>hadn't said that..." Well, unlike you, Jay recorded his shit
>and sold it to the masses... If he don't like what he said,
>then he don't like it... Don't mean that you can't still like
>it...

  

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Coco la chapelle
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91. "What's wrong with that people ? "
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You never feel ashamed about something you've said / done before ? The man changed, I don't see where the problem is ... really

  

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92. "Spectating placeholder..."
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97. "This is no different from DOA or saying he wants to be like Kweli"
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like somebody else above said, Jay does/say what will appeal to his target audience...

  

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The Analyst
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115. "RE: This is no different from DOA or saying he wants to be like Kweli"
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How does saying he wants to be like Kweli appeal to his core audience, many of whom don't know who the fuck Kweli is?

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116. "No need in making sense in this post fam."
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It's obvious that the love of ignorance is strong in here.

>How does saying he wants to be like Kweli appeal to his core
>audience, many of whom don't know who the fuck Kweli is?

  

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122. "RE: This is no different from DOA or saying he wants to be like Kweli"
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I meant the target audience he had in mind while spitting that line... all those plp calling him a shallow rapper..

why else would he make excuses about his music and say he wants to be like Kweli, Common etc.

which is no different than what he is doing now




  

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100. "Read em n' weap ya wild hunnid animals"
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You know I thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em
Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em
Take 'em out the hood
Keep 'em looking good
But I don't fuckin' feed em
First time they fuss I'm breezin'
Talking 'bout what's the reasons
I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch
Better trust and believe 'em
In a cut where I keep 'em
'Til I need a nut
'Til I need to be (in) the guts
The it's beep-beep and I'm pickin 'em up
Let 'em play with the dick in the truck
Many chicks wanna put Jigga fist incuffs
Divorce him and split his bucks
Just because you got good head
I'mma break bread
So you can be livin' it up
Shit I part's wit nothin
Y'all be frontin'
Me give my heart to a woman
Not for nothin' never happen'
I'll be forever mackin'
Heart cold as assassins, I got no passion
I got no patience and I hate waitin'
Hoe get your ass in
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102. "Now why would he be ashamed of that...."
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gumz
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104. "RE: Now why would he be ashamed of that...."
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word...wouldnt think twice about seeing those words in huge letters on the floor of a fancy hotel lol

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105. "or inside a valentine card perhaps"
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he's on a song called Big Pimpin with a rapper named Pimp C.
I expect Pimp talk and anything less would be uncivilised...lol

  

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128. "-perfectly stated"
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110. "15 years in, Jay still moving the mad meter in here"
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it really isn't a bigger deal than Pete Townsend disavowing 'hope I die before I get old' but because of racial double-standards it will be portrayed as such by some.

But I guess folks would rather their favorite rappers not evolve past the type of mentality that led to them saying 'no matter how much loot I get I'm staying in the projects, forever' then ending up in the prison system long after financially achieving the freedom to live in a nice home.

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112. "sounds like the power of the P..."
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or should I say B in this case..

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114. "it's just uneasy..like..with..the....just...it's hard...very vulgar. "
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124. "lmao "
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141. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDDbEJAEIg"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDDbEJAEIg

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118. "this is in direct response to beys interaction w GEMS"
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either he saw the film and was moved to make the statement himself or Rachel (GEMS ed) persuaded him (or persuaded bey to persuade him) 2 make it.

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121. "LOL @ this grey poupon ass nigga!"
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123. "unless he gives the money he made off it back I don't givv a fok what he..."
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Ashley Ayers
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126. "He does alot of charity donation so he might have already."
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But then if we found out about everybody would accuse him of touting
his own goodness and trying to be seen for stuff that he should remain
quiet about.

  

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136. "I get where you're going with it, but its not the same thing "
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as what I'm talking about
the idea that you can do shit to get paid, then apologize for it but still profit from said actions is pretty much corporate public relations 1o1

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Ashley Ayers
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137. "Suicide is pretty much the only way he could stop profitting from it"
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He'd have to stop being Jay-Z.

  

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144. "he could take all his royalties from it and donate that shit"
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to a fund or a local charity as a way of making amends
but will that happen?
of course not

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140. ""I make 'Big Pimpin' or 'Give It to Me,' one of those, ya'll hail me "
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as the greatest writer of the 21st century. I make some thought provoking shit, you question whether he's really fallen off." (c) Jay-Z, "Ignorant Shit"

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