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54. "The heat spots are for the crowds, and there are no crowds"
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So if you're going to have to put in a commercial break, you might as do it in the heat spots, because there's no crowd to play off of.

Now, this relates to my larger issue, in which I do think that during this time of COVID all federations should find different ways to structure their matches, since that aren't crowds for heat, pops, etc. But that's not an issue that's localized to AEW.


>maybe ive been away from TV wrestling too long for those
>little things not to bother me. like regular viewers got
>acclimated to modern things like that, but im getting it all
>at once. i dunno.
>
>and im actually on the other side of the fence as you. i
>think the TV matches regularly go way too long.

I can only talk personally for myself, but I'll say what drew me back into watching AEW (and hence, wrestling) were the longer match times. No maybe I got spoiled because the first episode I watched had a bunch of high quality matches right there, but I enjoyed see the majority of the focus on the in-ring action. Maybe because what drove me away from watching WWE for the endless 15-minute segements/constipated HHH promos that would open Raw and Smackdown during the '00s.


>this is
>another thing my "wrestling as a sport" mentality has trouble
>with. every NBA game isnt a 121-120 barnburner, not every
>boxing match goes 12 rounds, and sometimes its just not your
>night. people rightfully complain about 50/50 booking, but
>50/50 matches can wear on me as well. its like getting the
>match over to the smart marks is a higher priority than
>getting a wrestler over. if they cant have a 6 minute TV
>match where both guys make an impression, 6 more minutes
>becomes diminishing returns for me.

Well, I know it's indicative of every week, but I thought that last Wednesday's episode did the right balance in terms of match length.

Moxley - Squash, then setting the match with Omega
Hager - Squash, then further the Inner Circle/Bucks feud
I think both Baker/Rose and Fenix/Archer were both the right length.
You could argue that the Cage/Starks match should have been shorter, but honestly, I just like watching those two wrestle. Plus, they've both been doing two-minutes or less squashes on Dark for the past month or so, and it was good to see them do some cool shit.

Which leads me to my next point: I can and do get to warch the non barn-burner stuff by watch dark. Those usually go six minutes tops, aside for the occasional 10-minute main event. It establishes who needs to be the bad-asses and gets over the guys on the "main roster." But I feel like if it's going to go on their two-hour prime time slot, then I'd rather see more lengthier matches than less.

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OKPW: Royal Rumble to Double or Nothing [View all] , Paps_Smear, Sat Jan-30-21 06:03 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: OKPW: Royal Rumble to Double or Nothing
Jan 31st 2021
1
is Charlotte back yet? if so her
Jan 31st 2021
2
RE: OKPW: Royal Rumble to Double or Nothing
Jan 31st 2021
3
I don't love Edge like a lot of people do so it landed cold for me
Feb 01st 2021
6
RE: OKPW: Royal Rumble to Double or Nothing
Feb 01st 2021
4
pretty clever of them last night since there was no crowd
Feb 01st 2021
5
RE: pretty clever of them last night since there was no crowd
Feb 01st 2021
7
I don't think they would've shit on Edge
Feb 01st 2021
8
1. An audience would have popped huge for a Goldberg L to Drew
Feb 01st 2021
10
RE: Wwe booking?
Feb 01st 2021
9
Definitely, and to a degree they’re doing the same in NXT
Feb 10th 2021
12
i watched the Rumble, because its the Rumble
Feb 10th 2021
11
there's a lot of Rumble tropes that have gotten pretty grating
Feb 10th 2021
13
      RE: there's a lot of Rumble tropes that have gotten pretty grating
Feb 11th 2021
14
      Technically they have a rule to cover this too
Feb 11th 2021
15
           Right, without that rule, what's the point of entering when your # is up...
Feb 11th 2021
17
           yes. you had 2 minutes, and then a footrace
Feb 11th 2021
21
      I absolutely DESPISE this
Feb 11th 2021
16
      As a kid, had a friend who would try to pull that in backyard football g...
Feb 11th 2021
18
           RE: As a kid, had a friend who would try to pull that in backyard footba...
Feb 11th 2021
19
      I thought the way they used Orton here was great
Feb 11th 2021
20
           personally speaking, i hate knowing who will be #31
Feb 11th 2021
22
           yup, that got me with that one
Feb 11th 2021
23
           RE: yup, that got me with that one
Feb 11th 2021
24
                Corny hated indie clown shit way before AEW put it on tv
Feb 13th 2021
26
                     Corny is played out, and honestly anyone that shares his views is too
Feb 13th 2021
27
                          he seems to have upset you personally
Feb 14th 2021
28
                               RE: he seems to have upset you personally
Feb 14th 2021
29
                                    And there it is
Feb 14th 2021
30
                                    Pretty much
Feb 14th 2021
31
                                    I stopped taking Cornette seriously when it comes to talking about...
Feb 15th 2021
32
                                    RE: I stopped taking Cornette seriously when it comes to talking about.....
Feb 15th 2021
34
                                    RE: he seems to have upset you personally
Feb 15th 2021
33
           I agree, they subverted it well this time
Feb 11th 2021
25
Miz’s reaction to winning the title elevates the title actually
Feb 21st 2021
35
I loved it
Feb 21st 2021
36
Big E is kickstarting a black history show
Feb 22nd 2021
37
The Miz, a month out from Mania? Trash
Feb 22nd 2021
38
I’d do Miz/McIntyre/Lashley/Lesnar and have Miz retain at WM
Feb 22nd 2021
39
What’s Alex Riley up to??
Feb 24th 2021
40
Big Show to AEW. AEW is such a wreck lol
Feb 24th 2021
41
If he's going to be helping the young guys
Feb 24th 2021
42
      I truly thought AEW was going to be like nothing I’d seen before
Feb 24th 2021
43
           There was a time where I was really enjoying it
Feb 24th 2021
44
                for the last 9 months Jericho has been a clown and a half
Feb 25th 2021
47
Just here to say Archer vs, Fenix was fucking insane.
Feb 24th 2021
45
the mid-match commercials are becoming maddening for me
Feb 25th 2021
48
Yeah, I agree they suck. I just don't know any way around them
Feb 25th 2021
49
      they ALWAYS occur during the heat spots
Mar 01st 2021
52
          
Fenix needs a big ol' push
Feb 25th 2021
50
      Man, I agree
Feb 25th 2021
51
      ill say this about AEW
Mar 01st 2021
53
RIP Jocephus (The Question Mark in NWA)
Feb 25th 2021
46
Not sure how I feel about the IWGP Heavyweight title going away
Mar 02nd 2021
55
https://twitter.com/JayWhiteNZ/status/1366275652949803009
Mar 02nd 2021
56
Ibushi has had to explain why this is a great idea like 10 times
Mar 06th 2021
62
god damn i used to hate this motherfucker Tully Blanchard
Mar 03rd 2021
57
The match was a lot of fun.
Mar 04th 2021
58
AEW is hyping a big signing
Mar 05th 2021
59
If it’s anyone 50+, I don’t really care that much
Mar 06th 2021
60
It’s gotta be a swerve or disappointment, right?
Mar 06th 2021
61
they bring in Pete Rose or Koko B Ware, and I’m done
Mar 06th 2021
63
      What about Drew Carey in a sweatsuit?
Mar 06th 2021
65
I'm kinda interested in the unannounced entrant for the ladder match
Mar 06th 2021
64
Okay I’m very happy with this
Mar 07th 2021
69
RE: Okay I’m very happy with this
Mar 07th 2021
70
I liked both signings
Mar 08th 2021
74
      by all accounts, Christian is a top-tier pro wrestlng mind.
Mar 08th 2021
75
Paps, you hosting a watch-a-long tonight?
Mar 07th 2021
66
Yep
Mar 07th 2021
67
      thanks brother, I'm in!
Mar 07th 2021
68
Solid ppv
Mar 07th 2021
71
RE: Solid ppv
Mar 08th 2021
72
RE: Solid ppv
Mar 08th 2021
73
RE: Example of what they were going for
Mar 08th 2021
76
Yeah, that would have been a lot better.
Mar 08th 2021
78
Up until the final "explosion" I liked it a lot
Mar 08th 2021
77
WWE need to keep the belt on Lashley for a LONG time
Mar 08th 2021
79
So WWE's new lead writer is the producer of Ridiculousness
Mar 09th 2021
80
Eh, I don’t pay much attention to the writing hires
Mar 09th 2021
81
      I think it's indicative of the *real* problems with the product
Mar 09th 2021
82
      It’s tough to say. I see the logic behind it, but also the downside
Mar 09th 2021
84
      A writer will come up with something
Mar 09th 2021
83
y'all gotta check out Britt vs. Thunder Rosa from last night.
Mar 18th 2021
85
That was absolutely fucking brutal
Mar 18th 2021
86
RE: That was absolutely fucking brutal
Mar 19th 2021
92
internet has gone nuts for this, I'm compelled to check it out
Mar 18th 2021
88
RE: y'all gotta check out Britt vs. Thunder Rosa from last night.
Mar 18th 2021
89
If anyone hates that match just stop watching wrestling right now
Mar 20th 2021
95
Britt is the main reason I watch the show
Mar 28th 2021
100
      her work is still getting there imo
Mar 28th 2021
101
           Workrate-wise she’s still a bit behind Shida and maybe a couple others
Mar 28th 2021
102
                i dont necessarily mean work "rate" per se
Mar 28th 2021
103
                     RE: i dont necessarily mean work "rate" per se
Mar 29th 2021
112
                          a lot of those systemic womens div issues were so avoidable
Mar 29th 2021
114
All in on The Pinnacle
Mar 18th 2021
87
Yep. This is where I'm at too.
Mar 24th 2021
96
      I'm hoping this is where we get the Blood and Guts match
Mar 24th 2021
97
           i hope we get a real team of good guys instead of the IC
Mar 28th 2021
104
Retraction: I can enjoy Cornette
Mar 18th 2021
90
I like Jim when he's not talking about the current product
Mar 18th 2021
91
      I've been rockin with Solomonster for awhile now
Mar 20th 2021
94
NCAA Championships tonight
Mar 20th 2021
93
I wish they’d never taken the AEW title off of Jericho
Mar 27th 2021
98
Omega is terrible
Mar 28th 2021
99
you really hit the nail on the head here
Mar 29th 2021
106
Problem with that is that Jericho has been really shaky in the ring
Mar 28th 2021
105
      all true, but "Hollywood" Hogan couldn't wrestle anymore either
Mar 29th 2021
107
      Agreed on all of that
Mar 29th 2021
108
      I pretty much hated Hollywood Hogan's extended reign
Mar 29th 2021
111
           Agreed
Mar 29th 2021
113
           RE: I pretty much hated Hollywood Hogan's extended reign
Mar 29th 2021
118
                You're making way too much sense
Mar 30th 2021
119
                its hilarious how seriously you take your OWN opinion
Mar 30th 2021
121
                     No wrestling show comes close to those numbers
Mar 30th 2021
122
                          Youre right. Because the product and wrestlers suck.
Mar 31st 2021
123
                that seems pretty apparent to me
Mar 30th 2021
120
      RE: Problem with that is that Jericho has been really shaky in the ring
Mar 29th 2021
109
           They've only ever been good as silent muscle
Mar 29th 2021
110
These stupid mofos broke up The Hurt Business
Mar 29th 2021
115
Vince just gets bored and breaks up tag teams/groups
Mar 29th 2021
116
Matt Riddle put up a segment botch for the ages lol
Mar 29th 2021
117
      first time seeing this and giggling...I mean this sorta worked? hahaha
Mar 31st 2021
124
           It worked because Riddle's character is dumber than a bag of rocks
Apr 02nd 2021
126
Jericho on smoking skull next Sunday on Peacock!?
Apr 02nd 2021
125
Vince 86'd the Hurt Business despite Bobby/MVP attempt to save it
Apr 02nd 2021
127
RE: Vince 86'd the Hurt Business despite Bobby/MVP attempt to save it
Apr 02nd 2021
128
      IMO, it's because it detracts from his own pet projects
Apr 02nd 2021
129
           I could understand this if they only had 1 hour of TV to fill every week
Apr 02nd 2021
130

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