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"Do sports journalists hurt game's integrity by voting with personal bias..."


  

          


Stephen A. went on a nice rant about this yesterday, regarding T.O. not getting in first-ballot.

Do you care when awards or honors are obviously based on who is liked and who is a disliked?


This is the vote that made me realize I didn't wanna do sports journalism as a career. I was completely disgusted. Better numbers by far...better team record by far. No reason for this.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1995.shtml

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Do sports journalists hurt game's integrity by voting with personal bias... [View all] , Basaglia, Wed Feb-10-16 08:36 AM
 
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The greatest baseball player of his generation in not in the hall
Feb 10th 2016
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I was done in 95. I was so hot that day, I melted all the snow on campus
Feb 10th 2016
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      Boston when they spit on Julius Erving...that was the end for me
Feb 10th 2016
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yes, but it ain't that serious to me
Feb 10th 2016
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RE: Do sports journalists hurt game's integrity by voting with personal ...
Feb 10th 2016
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RE: Do sports journalists hurt game's integrity by voting with personal ...
Feb 10th 2016
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Yeah. especially when you consider what some of those biases are
Feb 10th 2016
5
It's unnerving to me but I don't think Owens is suffering injustice
Feb 10th 2016
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To slightly play Devil's Advocate
Feb 10th 2016
7
Chicken or Egg...SAS kinda addressed that in his rant.
Feb 10th 2016
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I don't think that is true at all. There are instances, but it's not the...
Feb 10th 2016
9
I guess this will have to be
Feb 10th 2016
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      I can only speak for the voting process in two leagues
Feb 10th 2016
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           On the Dan Patrick show
Feb 10th 2016
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                HOF voting is another level, I meant the awards voting
Feb 10th 2016
43
That's complete bullshit and is unprofessional
Feb 10th 2016
63
That was such a monster year from Belle
Feb 10th 2016
11
I was hyped as shit when he went to the White Sox
Feb 10th 2016
16
+1
Feb 10th 2016
65
this is so awesome, I don't think I've heard about it before...
Feb 10th 2016
54
Jeez you see some the replies to that article?
Feb 11th 2016
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what integrity are you talking about exactly?
Feb 10th 2016
12
lol @ you complaining about personal bias though...
Feb 10th 2016
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if you wanna explain, you can. otherwise, i'm ignoring this.
Feb 10th 2016
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your whole board persona is based off of personal bias.
Feb 10th 2016
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      and you're comparing my admitted persona HERE to HOF/MVP voters?
Feb 10th 2016
21
      *shrug* not that serious, but i find it funny.
Feb 10th 2016
24
      Man, that's some BS. He's admitted to his online persona
Feb 10th 2016
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           *shrug* not that serious, but i find it funny.
Feb 10th 2016
38
           he prolly thinks i wouldn't vote melo into the HOF first-year.
Feb 10th 2016
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                Man Dominique and Alex English were not first ballot
Feb 10th 2016
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                     first-year on my ballot
Feb 10th 2016
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                     Dantley too?
Feb 11th 2016
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                          lol, nice
Feb 11th 2016
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                          him too.
Feb 12th 2016
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                     Neither was Bob McAdoo, therefore AI should not be first ballot either
Feb 10th 2016
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                          Melo is first ballot to you? Really?
Feb 10th 2016
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                               Absolutely. Including NCAA & FIBA careers it's a no-brainer, actually.
Feb 11th 2016
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                                    RE: Absolutely. Including NCAA & FIBA careers it's a no-brainer, actuall...
Feb 11th 2016
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                                         RE: Absolutely. Including NCAA & FIBA careers it's a no-brainer, act...
Feb 15th 2016
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                                              you would, i might have, but they didn't make it.
Feb 15th 2016
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                                                   English actually did make it on the first ballot
Feb 16th 2016
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                                                   are you certain on english? thought he retired 91, inducted 97
Feb 16th 2016
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                                                        Yes; that's how the calendar dates fall. Bird retired in 92, inducted 98
Feb 16th 2016
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                                                             MVP, 4 scoring titles, 3 steals crowns, 11 straight ASGs, etc.
Feb 17th 2016
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                                                                  AI belongs in very top tier of HOF with Cap/Wilt/BigO/Bird/Magic/MJ etc?
Feb 17th 2016
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                                                   "10 ish years, 1 dimensional, won nothing".... sounds like A.I. too.
Feb 16th 2016
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                                                        Except not.
Feb 17th 2016
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                                                             Nah it's the same. Plus Melo won a National Title & a host of medals
Feb 17th 2016
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                                                             ...but kinda yeah.
Feb 18th 2016
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                                                                  Niggaz stay hyping some steals when he never stopped anybody,
Feb 18th 2016
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RE: Do sports journalists hurt game's integrity by voting with personal ...
Feb 10th 2016
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I think it hurts the game more that sportswriters are the ones allowed
Feb 10th 2016
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Votes like this are journalists only chance to hold onto any importance
Feb 10th 2016
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They hurt the integrity of the awards, but not the game
Feb 10th 2016
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I think it's bullshit. But I don't think it's an issue with T.O.
Feb 10th 2016
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How is TO NOT an all-time great? He ranks in the top 5 or 10 in ALL
Feb 10th 2016
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      Beast? Sure. Up with the elite of the elite? No.
Feb 10th 2016
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      So you're saying that there's been only 2 elite receivers to ever play?
Feb 10th 2016
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      That's exactly what I'm saying. T.O. is not a no-brainer 1st ballot wr.
Feb 10th 2016
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           Well according to his peers, former players, and past inductees he
Feb 10th 2016
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                Tackles are getting more and more respect from the voters
Feb 10th 2016
                Exactly. I'm just judging the selection process relative to the position...
Feb 10th 2016
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                     yeah i think we pretty much agree 100% here. spooky.
Feb 10th 2016
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                          Lol... yeah, I'm logging off now.
Feb 10th 2016
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                Tackles are getting more and more respect from the voters
Feb 10th 2016
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      Correction: he did play w/Young for 3 seasons in the early part of
Feb 10th 2016
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      .
Feb 10th 2016
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Seems kind of hypocritical of Screaming A.
Feb 10th 2016
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when has he ever been consistent or coherent?
Feb 10th 2016
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      True.
Feb 10th 2016
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I'm asking this out of complete ignorance
Feb 10th 2016
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i honestly don't know. he crazy enough not to care.
Feb 10th 2016
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All depends on what his priorities are.
Feb 10th 2016
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He did care at the time. I remember being a huge fan of his, and half
Feb 11th 2016
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Fuck yes it does
Feb 10th 2016
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Baseball is the absolute worst about this.
Feb 10th 2016
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this whole steroid freezeout is fucking crazy
Feb 10th 2016
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It's kind of amazing.
Feb 10th 2016
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      It's a pretty weird job and for older people it's getting weirder
Feb 10th 2016
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           It's the former beat writers turned columnists
Feb 10th 2016
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                yeah there are some atrocious columnists out there
Feb 10th 2016
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Would Bonds have gotten into the Hall of Fame
Feb 10th 2016
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100%, they can't be that unreasonable
Feb 10th 2016
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Hate to be corny, but the issue is entirely about diversity
Feb 10th 2016
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Isn't it ironic, don't ya think
Feb 10th 2016
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not an accurate parallel in my opinion
Feb 10th 2016
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It's just more proof that people disregard facts for their biases
Feb 10th 2016
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Yup, selection bias is rampant as a mfer
Feb 10th 2016
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no issue with this at all. WRs never go in first-ballot.
Feb 10th 2016
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So you co-sign dumb shit
Feb 10th 2016
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      of course there are.
Feb 11th 2016
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           have you ever been to the hall of fame?
Feb 11th 2016
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                respectfully disagree.
Feb 11th 2016
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                Have you been to the hall?
Feb 11th 2016
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                     How can you say there are no tiers? Threshold matter?
Feb 11th 2016
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                          Have you ever been to the hall?
Feb 11th 2016
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                               I've been to the BBball, Baseball and Hockey HOFs, not Canton
Feb 11th 2016
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                                    RE: I've been to the BBball, Baseball and Hockey HOFs, not Canton
Feb 11th 2016
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                                         If there are 20 deserving guys, they can't induct all 20
Feb 12th 2016
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                                              You can be easy with the personal attacks my man
Feb 12th 2016
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                                                   But they do exist, and they do create a loose hierarchy
Feb 12th 2016
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                                                        I'm not sure what you don't get about this
Feb 12th 2016
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                                                             they exist *and* they are significant. that's what *you* are not getting
Feb 12th 2016
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                                                                  LOL
Feb 13th 2016
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                                                                       K, pretty confident in my intellect and understanding of the process
Feb 13th 2016
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                                                                            And thats your problem
Feb 13th 2016
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                                                                                 And what's strike three? Fuck is you? Ron O'Neal or something?
Feb 13th 2016
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                                                                                      LOFL
Feb 13th 2016
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                                                                                      Agenda? Voiding? What?
Feb 13th 2016
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                                                                                      LOL
Feb 13th 2016
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                "First ballot Hall of Famer" is a thing to sports writers
Feb 11th 2016
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                     IMO it's a thing to anyone involved with the HOF
Feb 11th 2016
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                          No...it's a thing to only the writers
Feb 11th 2016
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                               you can keep repeating that, it doesn't make it true
Feb 12th 2016
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                               RE: No...it's a thing to only the writers
Feb 12th 2016
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                                    RE: No...it's a thing to only the writers
Feb 12th 2016
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Absolutely
Feb 15th 2016
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Chill yo...they're not trying to hear that
Feb 15th 2016
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It's Insanity
Feb 15th 2016
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      Yeah this would be the worst shit
Feb 15th 2016
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How common is a unanimous vote though?
Feb 16th 2016
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      The unanimous vote should be common
Feb 16th 2016
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           Cool, we agree, but you deal in "should," I deal in "is."
Feb 17th 2016
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                I Disagree Somewhat
Feb 19th 2016
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Does sports discussion get dumbed down by too much agenda bullshit?
Feb 17th 2016
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RE: Do sports journalists hurt game's integrity by voting with personal ...
Feb 18th 2016
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