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Mon Jan-27-20 05:56 PM by allStah

          

Being from Chicago ( and a little bit of Brooklyn), I grew up watching a player that showcased an athletic and basketball ability that transcended anything that had ever been performed in sports. That player was Michael Jordan, and throughout the years on this board, I was one of the Jordan gatekeepers who would respectfully, but vehemently , verbally battle anyone who tried to put Kobe or any other player on the same platform as your air’ness.


Before Kobe, Lakers hate didn’t exist. Kobe is the reason why lakers hate came about. People used to love the lakers, solely because of Magic Johnson. Magic’s charisma, wholesomeness, laughter, and that bright, kool aid smile made it impossible to root against the lakers.


Magic retires. The Lakers go into a dull period, and then Kobe comes along. Immediately, Bulls fans saw the similarities. We saw the emulation. We saw Kobe walk like Jordan, talk like Jordan, and most of all play like Jordan. Before Kobe, there were a plethora of players who were labeled to be the next Michael Jordan, from Harold Miner to Grant Hill, and Jordan fans laughed at those expectations. However, with Kobe, he actually looked and played like Michael Jordan. It was a shocking revelation, and when he started winning championships and scoring titles like Jordan, it went from comparing Kobe to Jordan to Kobe possibly being better than Jordan. And that , my friends, is when Bulls fans had enough. Lakers and Kobe hate was born. And to add injury to insult, Kobe even lost his hair like Jordan, so there is a pre-bald Kobe period vs Kobe bald period, just like there is a pre-bald Jordan period vs bald Jordan period. He even played under the same coach, and played next to a player similar to Scottie Pippen in Lamar Odom. “ Does this dude have anything that’s original?”


After the lakers won their third championship during the Kobe era, everyday felt like a battle to protect jordan’s legacy. Everything was about Kobe, even to the point that the lakers decided to trade Shaq so that Kobe could have his own team. The basketball universe was changing, and we were clearly in the age of Kobe, and the NBA was finally able to move on from the void of Michale Jordan. It wasn’t a great period for bulls fans.


I didn’t want to see anything regarding the lakers or Kobe, and when the rape allegations came about, I was like “see, this dude is a bad character.” I was also hoping that was the end of Kobe and the comparison. I mean this dude even had a controversial period in his life just like Jordan, so how much of jordan’s life was he going to emulate? His entire life? So when the world turned on Kobe, and his image was adulterated, I stopped worrying about jordan’s Throne being challenged.


The rape allegations get dropped, and Kobe goes through somewhat of a quiet period in the media, and he just focuses on basketball. It is during this period where he goes on a scoring spree, another action similar to Jordan. This guy starts dropping 40 and 50 a game, and then he goes and have the 2nd most prolific scoring game off all time. And, of course, the “better than Jordan” argument resurfaces.


Kobe gets another shot at winning his 4th title, and throughout that entire series I woke up everyday hoping the lakers would lose, because lakers fans were beyond insufferable at that point. It was a great day in the universe when the Celtics beat the Lakers, and Kobe went out like a scrub. Bulls fans finally had the deciding and final word: “ Jordan never went out like that, and Jordan is 6-0 in championships.” And once again Jordan’s legacy was on top, and to never be challenged again....so we thought.


The following year the lakers came back as the Euro Lakers, and stronger than ever. Kobe goes on to win his 4th title, and the Jordan comparisons resurface, again! But bulls fans still had the upper hand: 6 rings and undefeated in championships! We good!
The lakers return to the finals the following season, and Kobe goes on to win his 5th title! WTF! Could this dude possibly win 6 rings? We will never hear the end of this if he wins 6 titles. I can honestly say that all of bulls nation was on emergency watch. The okay message board at that time was on full battle tilt.


However, the following year the lakers failed, and Kobe never returned to the finals again. Victory at last! Lakers nation finally realized that there is only one goat. Lakers hate went away and the universe was restored. Kobe retired and the lakers returned to mediocrity ( lol).


( Hopefully, in those statements, you get an understanding of just how great Kobe was...He wouldn’t go away).


After he retired, my view of Kobe was that he would probably be just like Jordan: Anal, narcissistic, arrogant, etc. However, it was quite the opposite. He was a caring, loving family man, got involved in film making and investments, and went on to teach the game to his daughter and other girls. He was open and communicative, and made several tv appearances. I liked and loved Kobe off the court more than I did on the court. He transitioned into an outstanding human being, and a person that I cheered and rooted for. He became a big brother and friend to so many young nba basketball players , and they loved him for it. To see so many nba players cry and show grief over his death is breathtaking, and the great stories they have of him is a testament of his humanness and approachable character.


He didn’t surpass Jordan on the basketball court, but he sure did surpass Jordan in personality and humanness. I’m going to miss that more than anything. I truly believe that Kobe and his daughter were going to change the WNBA.





  

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Los Angeles Lakers 2019-2020 Season Poast.... [View all] , ThaTruth, Wed Nov-13-19 01:36 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Good, it’s the right move
Nov 13th 2019
1
The Warriors suck, and we're 8-2.
Nov 13th 2019
2
*yawn*
Nov 13th 2019
3
as he should
Nov 13th 2019
4
We fuck around with too many bullshit ass teams
Nov 25th 2019
5
We pulled away late but Bron had to play late into the 4th quarter....
Nov 26th 2019
6
........we’re 15-2
Nov 26th 2019
7
tf?
Nov 26th 2019
8
      Nvm him
Nov 26th 2019
14
      defensive end....while averaging a cool 25 ppg
Nov 26th 2019
17
      Nvm him
Nov 26th 2019
15
They’re a brand new team with a brand new coach and they’re 15-2.
Nov 26th 2019
9
I get that I still feel like we have too many tight games with bum ass.....
Nov 26th 2019
10
      i hear you but
Nov 26th 2019
12
      Further, there's real value in learning how to close games out as a unit
Nov 26th 2019
13
           in a vacuum, I'll take that over a blowout, personally
Nov 26th 2019
16
                agreed. Kuz went off tonight in the 4th. He badly needed that.
Nov 28th 2019
21
      RE: I get that I still feel like we have too many tight games with bum a...
Nov 28th 2019
29
           nobody's been in more close, last-possession games than the Clippers
Nov 29th 2019
34
its the regular season. half of these games are basically practice for u...
Nov 26th 2019
11
Pels shooting the damn lights out
Nov 27th 2019
18
16-2. AD w/ the last laugh
Nov 28th 2019
19
This team is so composed under pressure.
Nov 28th 2019
20
down by 15+, but never gave up...
Nov 28th 2019
22
RE: Los Angeles Lakers 2019-2020 Season Poast....
Nov 28th 2019
23
Okay guy.
Nov 28th 2019
24
RE: Okay guy.
Nov 28th 2019
28
I see why you're such a clown
Nov 28th 2019
25
RE: I see why you're such a clown
Nov 28th 2019
26
      Like I said, you're a clown.
Nov 30th 2019
40
they really kicked our asses while losing the games
Nov 28th 2019
27
thats a whole lot of words to not say shit of note
Nov 28th 2019
30
But you see. They have no dog. And lost twice in 18 games.
Nov 28th 2019
31
      RE: But you see. They have no dog. And lost twice in 18 games.
Nov 28th 2019
32
           im not worried
Nov 28th 2019
33
           Incorrect as usual:
Nov 29th 2019
35
           Surprised ya’ll still respond to him
Nov 29th 2019
36
           it's the silliest shit.
Nov 29th 2019
38
           RE: Surprised ya’ll still respond to him
Nov 30th 2019
48
           RE: Incorrect as usual:
Nov 30th 2019
44
           remember that time the hawks swept lebron in the season
Nov 29th 2019
37
           RE: remember that time the hawks swept lebron in the season
Nov 30th 2019
46
                Neither can you.
Dec 02nd 2019
61
           Wrong as usual. Also, Clumps lost to San Antonio tonight.
Nov 30th 2019
41
                RE: Wrong as usual. Also, Clumps lost to San Antonio tonight.
Nov 30th 2019
42
                     RE: Wrong as usual. Also, Clumps lost to San Antonio tonight.
Nov 30th 2019
43
there are certain traits a team has that will translate well in the post...
Nov 29th 2019
39
      RE: there are certain traits a team has that will translate well in the ...
Nov 30th 2019
47
Lets be clear here.
Nov 30th 2019
45
You should make a Clippers post if you want to post about them.
Nov 30th 2019
49
love how you made this post right after
Nov 30th 2019
50
RE: love how you made this post right after
Nov 30th 2019
51
      ^^Sees it
Nov 30th 2019
52
      RE: ^^Sees it
Nov 30th 2019
57
           RE: ^^Sees it
Dec 02nd 2019
63
      So losing to shit teams is better than beating shit teams?
Nov 30th 2019
53
           RE: So losing to shit teams is better than beating shit teams?
Nov 30th 2019
56
Trolls gonna troll... lol
Nov 30th 2019
54
Lakers giving glimpse of the return of showtime...
Nov 30th 2019
55
Same as the first game against Dallas, lakers couldn’t Hang.
Dec 01st 2019
58
17-3.....oh, we’re so screwed
Dec 01st 2019
59
Heh, HEH, huh, HEH...Busta...what it is right now
Sep 12th 2020
218
Kuz looks lost out there
Dec 02nd 2019
60
He does. But he's only played 16 games.
Dec 02nd 2019
62
playing through injury...
Dec 02nd 2019
64
he's been downright frustrating to watch on both ends
Dec 02nd 2019
65
he got a lot of pressure on him. not surprised to see him struggle
Dec 02nd 2019
66
This dude's trying to sell merch today too, hahahah
Dec 02nd 2019
67
      nah u lyin...
Dec 02nd 2019
68
      I WISH I was...
Dec 02nd 2019
69
      the replies
Dec 02nd 2019
70
      I didn't even know about that I was just annoyed by the fact that...
Dec 03rd 2019
72
      he got one of those celebrity apps, too
Dec 03rd 2019
73
      unfortunately i am not surprised
Dec 02nd 2019
71
He was found tonight...
Dec 05th 2019
77
      he def has his moments - but still nothing sustained
Dec 10th 2019
83
Quality win @ Denver
Dec 03rd 2019
74
D39 hitting jab step 3s. 19-3
Dec 04th 2019
75
2 solid wins
Dec 04th 2019
76
Damn AD dropped a 50 spot on KAT last night...
Dec 09th 2019
78
This post is for real lakers fans only.
Dec 09th 2019
79
we dont discuss things that arent happening.
Dec 09th 2019
80
RE: we dont discuss things that arent happening.
Dec 09th 2019
81
Of course it’d bother me.
Dec 10th 2019
82
Too easy...
Dec 10th 2019
84
Do you think the "real Lakers fans" on OKP are Rob Pelinka and Jeanie Bu...
Dec 10th 2019
85
24-3. Turns out giving LeBron prime AD is working. Who’d have known.
Dec 16th 2019
86
too many turnovers the last 2 games though
Dec 16th 2019
87
      Oh definitely.
Dec 16th 2019
88
free throws
Dec 18th 2019
89
Two keys to this team:
Dec 24th 2019
90
Agreed - only thing I'd add is a point about Kuzma
Dec 25th 2019
91
      Agreed on that & he’s been a diff player now that he’s healthy
Dec 29th 2019
93
           Looks like Lakers are doing exactly what we discussed
Jan 07th 2020
101
RE: Los Angeles Lakers 2019-2020 Season Poast....
Dec 28th 2019
92
aw no allstah post? Lakers must've won last night
Dec 30th 2019
94
RE: aw no allstah post? Lakers must've won last night
Dec 30th 2019
95
Remember when you said AD was overrated and weakass?
Jan 06th 2020
100
?
Jan 11th 2020
134
.
Jan 11th 2020
133
Lebron had 29 assists and 3 turnovers in last 2 games
Dec 30th 2019
96
I predicted that. His mentality and approach is different
Jan 03rd 2020
97
      I've watched Lebron throughout his entire career
Jan 07th 2020
102
so why does rondo still play for us?
Jan 06th 2020
98
Crossing my fingers for Collison...
Jan 06th 2020
99
RE: Crossing my fingers for Collison...
Jan 07th 2020
108
No trade clause smh
Jan 07th 2020
103
RE: so why does rondo still play for us?
Jan 07th 2020
105
      Rondo is 33 and washed. I'm not entirely sure you're aware of that.
Jan 07th 2020
107
           RE: Rondo is 33 and washed. I'm not entirely sure you're aware of that.
Jan 07th 2020
112
                Are you talking about Rondo from 12 years ago?
Jan 07th 2020
116
                     RE: Are you talking about Rondo from 12 years ago?
Jan 07th 2020
120
Yall see Lonzo balling.
Jan 07th 2020
104
You're not this dumb, are you?
Jan 07th 2020
106
RE: You're not this dumb, are you?
Jan 07th 2020
110
Of course he didn't do a S&T.
Jan 07th 2020
111
      RE: Of course he didn't do a S&T.
Jan 07th 2020
114
           GP & KM was not a gamble.
Jan 07th 2020
115
                RE: GP & KM was not a gamble.
Jan 07th 2020
117
                     Check my post history, dummy.
Jan 07th 2020
118
                     Sorry, I can't keep up with how much you're editing this.
Jan 07th 2020
119
                          RE: Sorry, I can't keep up with how much you're editing this.
Jan 07th 2020
122
                               No. No I don't.
Jan 07th 2020
123
                                    RE: No. No I don't.
Jan 07th 2020
124
                                         Hoarding assets has never worked.
Jan 07th 2020
125
you realize who you’re talking to right
Jan 14th 2020
146
nah we're good
Jan 07th 2020
109
RE:we're goo
Jan 07th 2020
113
never change... lol
Jan 07th 2020
121
I miss the kids. I really do. I was good with letting them cook
Jan 07th 2020
126
Speaking Cold truth.
Jan 08th 2020
128
All depends on what your goal is
Jan 08th 2020
129
i absolutely spoke Cold Truth, but you cherry picked convenient truths
Jan 14th 2020
147
man fuck them kids
Jan 08th 2020
130
Do you think the Pels would trade Lonzo back for AD straight up?
Jan 08th 2020
127
Ball and Ingram just SHOT a King Kong movie in MSG
Jan 10th 2020
131
they beat the KNICKS??? Wow!
Jan 11th 2020
132
Y’all said rondo was washed!
Jan 11th 2020
135
That was literally 2 people lol
Jan 12th 2020
136
RE: Y’all said rondo was washed!
Jan 12th 2020
138
1 good game vs. a net negative for the past month
Jan 13th 2020
139
      You really make things hard for yourself
Jan 13th 2020
140
           Nobody said CP3 was washed.
Jan 13th 2020
141
                RE: Nobody said CP3 was washed.
Jan 13th 2020
142
                     Which means....
Jan 13th 2020
143
                          RE: Which means....
Jan 13th 2020
144
                               OH NO WHATEVER WILL I DO
Jan 13th 2020
145
This road trip (Dallas/OKC) was big for team confidence
Jan 12th 2020
137
But that’s you mans, that’s your mans
Jan 16th 2020
148
lol
Jan 16th 2020
149
no post about Bron leading Lakers to a W @ Houston; no AD?
Jan 19th 2020
152
      RE: no post about Bron leading Lakers to a W @ Houston; no AD?
Jan 19th 2020
153
           RE: no post about Bron leading Lakers to a W @ Houston; no AD?
Jan 19th 2020
154
Good win vs Rockets
Jan 19th 2020
150
Coach Rondo helpin' (Link)...
Jan 19th 2020
151
Im here to call a truce!
Jan 21st 2020
155
You not returning would be a great thing
Jan 24th 2020
156
here for Rondo doing good things.
Jan 24th 2020
157
he playing better lately.
Jan 24th 2020
158
it's going to very difficult for this team to overcome this
Jan 27th 2020
159
nah this will steel them and we will win.
Jan 27th 2020
160
this is where i'm at.
Jan 27th 2020
161
Bron's silence and the game being postponed tells you everything.
Jan 27th 2020
163
      we are at defcon 3 for bath salts
Jan 28th 2020
164
           real talk, this is why I was never mad about him going to LA.
Jan 31st 2020
175
laker hate has been around for a while before Kobe.
Jan 28th 2020
165
RE: laker hate has been around for a while before Kobe.
Jan 28th 2020
166
well the internet happened too.
Jan 28th 2020
169
      Yeah. You should be fucking done.
Jan 28th 2020
171
My aunt in LA asked me why I wanted the lakers to lose
Jan 28th 2020
167
exactly...
Jan 31st 2020
173
Loved Magic, hated the Lakers and Celtics and Bulls
Jan 28th 2020
168
Laker Hate existed prior to Kobe....
Jan 31st 2020
172
RE: Laker Hate existed prior to Kobe....
Jan 31st 2020
176
the realest part
Jan 31st 2020
174
This is still so, SO weird.
Jan 28th 2020
170
So glad Dwight came here.
Feb 02nd 2020
177
I was wrong about Howard...
Feb 02nd 2020
178
No hate. You guys needed to make moves.
Feb 07th 2020
lol.. Houston didn't expose shit....
Feb 17th 2020
180
      RE: lol.. Houston didn't expose shit....
Feb 17th 2020
181
No hate. You guys needed to make moves.
Feb 07th 2020
179
word on the street is we’re waiving Cuz and signing Markieff?
Feb 21st 2020
182
Boogie go bye bye
Feb 21st 2020
183
RE: word on the street is we’re waiving Cuz and signing Markieff?
Feb 21st 2020
184
"didnt work hard to go after Marcus"
Feb 21st 2020
185
      RE: "didnt work hard to go after Marcus"
Feb 21st 2020
186
           You really think Cousins can get back to star level????
Feb 21st 2020
187
           RE: You really think Cousins can get back to star level????
Feb 21st 2020
188
                I like Cuz but dude has been out almost 2 years thinking he could...
Feb 22nd 2020
192
                RE: I like Cuz but dude has been out almost 2 years thinking he could...
Feb 22nd 2020
193
                     this is business...
Feb 22nd 2020
195
                     Cuz is rehabbing with the Lakers.
Feb 22nd 2020
197
                Several major leg injuries, not just one
Feb 22nd 2020
194
           That’s a lot of words and not a lot of answering questions.
Feb 21st 2020
189
RE: word on the street is we’re waiving Cuz and signing Markieff?
Feb 22nd 2020
190
Clippers game rescheduled as 3rd game in a back-to-back-to-back?
Feb 22nd 2020
191
It was never gonna be easy...
Feb 22nd 2020
196
Yesterday’s game proved that Celtics would beat the lakers in.
Feb 24th 2020
198
The Kobe memorial's on. Nobody cares about this bad take.
Feb 24th 2020
199
The personification of hilarisad...
Feb 24th 2020
201
LMAO!..
Feb 24th 2020
200
Man this memorial is something.
Feb 24th 2020
202
So nobody is going to talk about Bron putting the youngins to bed....
Feb 26th 2020
203
nah cause it's whats supposed to happen
Feb 26th 2020
204
Taco Tuesday!
Feb 26th 2020
205
Your guy really needs to load manage.
Feb 27th 2020
206
You've been wrong up and down this post.
Feb 27th 2020
207
RE: You've been wrong up and down this post.
Mar 05th 2020
210
      ok
Mar 06th 2020
213
You can't even keep your fucking word
Mar 07th 2020
214
Dion is a Laker.
Mar 05th 2020
208
Contract year Dion >>>>> Troy Daniels
Mar 05th 2020
209
RE: Dion is a Laker.
Mar 05th 2020
211
Obviously, it doesn't, and I know you're joking
Mar 05th 2020
212
I kinda love this acquisition
Mar 07th 2020
216
I’m here win or lose.
Mar 07th 2020
215
well, you do take a lot of L's
Sep 12th 2020
219
AB showing them canine tendencies
Mar 08th 2020
217

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