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27. "Former MSU coach Kathie Klages needs to go to jail."
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Here's an article detailing some of the cover up she was involved in 20 years ago there:

http://michiganradio.org/post/day-young-gymnast-tried-tell-msu-about-sexual-abuse

And Larissa Boyce would see him for her lower back pain.

“And there were some trainers in there, and he told them to leave the room,” she says. “And I remember them looking at each other like, this is weird? And he said, ‘It’s ok, she’s a patient of mine at the clinic, too.’ And I remember him taking his gloves off, and he started using his thumb.”

Boyce says Nassar would use his fingers to penetrate her vagina. At first, she says, she squirmed and tried to move away, at least so she wasn’t looking at him directly. But Dr. Nassar told her not to move away, she says.

“It felt very, um, very sexual,” she says, slowly. “Because I mean it started—he was looking right at me. And I think that’s when I tried to scooch away and like turn over, so I didn’t have to look at him.”

Boyce says this penetration happened at first once a week, then every two weeks.

She could tell Dr. Nassar was aroused during those treatments, she says. And he would ask about her sex life with her boyfriend.

After questioning other gymnasts, another girl comes forward, too

Eventually, Boyce says she told her coach, Kathie Klages, that Dr. Nassar was penetrating her during treatment.

“And um, she just couldn’t believe it,” she says. “And said that I must be misunderstanding it, or reading into what he was doing. And I said that I wasn’t.”

Coach Klages at this point had worked alongside Nassar for years. They were close friends. When alums talk about Klages as their stand-in mom, Dr. Nassar is often recalled as part of that same tight-knit gymnastics family: a genuinely nice, avuncular kind of guy who, unlike some of the less sympathetic trainers, made athletes feel like he actually cared about them.

And beyond their friendship, history, and shared mission, Coach Klages also knew having Dr. Nassar, with his Olympic pedigree, was a selling point for recruits.

So with Larissa Boyce still sitting there in her office, Coach Klages started pulling in other members of the youth team, two or three at a time, Boyce says. Asking each of them, in front of Boyce: has anything uncomfortable ever happened with you and Dr. Nassar?

All of them said no. Except for one.

In court filings, one other former gymnast says she told Klages that yes, she too was being penetrated by Nassar during treatment.

“So she kept that girl in the office with me,” Boyce says. “We were both saying we were really embarrassed. And we felt like we were in trouble. And I remember the rest of practice, I think I just went into the bathroom and cried.”

Everyone was looking at her like she was a liar, Boyce says, like she was trying to get attention.

She says after a couple hours of this, Coach Klages called in a few members of the MSU college gymnastics team, too, to talk with Boyce about how medical treatments could somehow get close to private areas, but were never intended as sexual.

“So, when I told them, you know, what was happening, that’s when I remember them looking at each other and walking out and going to talk to Kathie about what I said,” Boyce says.

Michigan Radio reached out to several members of the college team from around this time period. Just two of them got back to us, and neither say they remember this conversation.

Finally, at the end of the day, Boyce says Coach Klages sat down with her for a talk.

“And she was sitting in her office in her chair behind her desk. And said, ‘Well you know, I could file this, but there’s going to be very serious consequences. For you and Dr. Nassar.’ I remember just, like, looking out the window behind her. And um, just not even wanting to look at her," Boyce says.

Deciding that she was the one with a dirty mind—and defending Nassar

Boyce says it felt like the whole youth program knew she’d done something wrong. After that day, she says, the Spartan youth gymnasts were no longer allowed to go down to the trainer’s area, where Dr. Nassar worked.

And Boyce says she wanted more than anything for all the shame and trouble to just be done. So she told herself, you know, maybe I am the problem here.

“What is wrong with me, and why am I thinking what he’s doing is sexual? And this adult that I look up to is saying I’m wrong,” she says.

On top of that, she still wanted to do gymnastics in college.

“And Kathie told my parents I had a chance of that," Boyce says. "And so if she’s telling me I’m wrong, then I had to make myself start believing that, and there was something wrong with me, and I just have a dirty mind.”

Afterwards, when Dr. Nassar confronted Boyce about her complaints, she apologized to him. Boyce recalls leaving gymnastics not long after that, but says she continued to see Dr. Nassar for two more years. And she says the abuse didn’t stop.

  

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late pass: Michigan State harbored their own Sandusky for 20 years? [View all] , will_5198, Tue Jan-16-18 07:43 PM
 
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more or less.
Jan 16th 2018
1
MSU offered her a raise *after* the scandal broke
Jan 16th 2018
3
This story is 10X worse than Sandusky...
Jan 16th 2018
2
it's literally depressing.
Jan 16th 2018
4
Wow. Did not know this.
Jan 17th 2018
7
I assume you just mean that the coverup is 10x worse ?
Jan 16th 2018
5
Ya I'm not referring directly to the assaults themselves
Jan 17th 2018
10
these are famous young white girls Sandusky was fucking poor young black...
Jan 17th 2018
12
i think what's particularly troubling comprared to the PSU situation
Jan 18th 2018
50
      What's more troubling IMO, Nassar was actively employed by MSU
Jan 26th 2018
139
that is....one of the worst stories I’ve ever heard
Jan 16th 2018
6
these aren't isolated incidents with one perpetrator..
Jan 17th 2018
8
what the fuck was worth it to keep Nassar aboard?
Jan 17th 2018
9
he had the right friends and a high profile
Jan 17th 2018
22
I'm sure, like Sandusky, everyone in the inner circle knew
Jan 17th 2018
24
      i'm talking specifically about the people at state
Jan 17th 2018
41
it's like if you're an authority and let the first incident slide
Jan 17th 2018
32
I imagine a lotta heads would roll, both deserved and undeserved.
Jan 17th 2018
35
Fucking despicable
Jan 17th 2018
11
Same intensity
Jan 17th 2018
13
No statute to take down tho cuz well its Michigan State
Jan 17th 2018
15
      also no rallies on the schedule to show support for the enablers
Jan 17th 2018
17
           Sadly I'm sure an HBO movie is coming
Jan 17th 2018
19
           i may have jumped the gun on this one
Jan 29th 2018
167
Terrible.
Jan 17th 2018
14
america only cares about gymnastics for a week every 4 years
Jan 17th 2018
16
      Even if you take sports completely out of it, it should be a huge story.
Jan 17th 2018
20
      fuck USA gymnastics
Jan 17th 2018
25
           I think this is absolutely what will happen
Jan 17th 2018
38
                fat chance of that happening tho
Jan 18th 2018
53
                     Wasn't clear
Jan 18th 2018
54
We need to clean out every single corner of society
Jan 17th 2018
18
it's unthinkably bad. and they let him go on for long after
Jan 17th 2018
21
Thats the sad part...
Jan 17th 2018
23
      It doesn't involve a well-known accused that is revered as a god
Jan 17th 2018
42
This part right here got to me...
Jan 17th 2018
26
when the allegations first broke last year
Jan 17th 2018
28
What the hell?
Jan 17th 2018
43
speechless
Jan 18th 2018
48
unfuckingbelievalble
Jan 17th 2018
29
wow
Jan 17th 2018
31
POS
Jan 17th 2018
34
wow, even worse than JoePa
Jan 18th 2018
46
They waived Maroney's NDA Fine. How noble of them
Jan 17th 2018
30
what was the public reaction to learning that maroney took money?
Jan 17th 2018
33
Define public. I’ve read all the shit you’d expect
Jan 17th 2018
36
mostly youtube comments
Jan 17th 2018
39
btw the serious answer to this question was 'media'
Jan 20th 2018
80
The question is what is the public reaction to learning that USAG
Jan 17th 2018
37
      that would be a separate question
Jan 17th 2018
40
           what makes this complex?
Jan 18th 2018
44
                what do you mean come out?
Jan 18th 2018
47
                     so you don't want to come out and say it. I get it.
Jan 18th 2018
51
                          I honestly have no idea wtf you’re talking about
Jan 18th 2018
52
                               I haven't accused you of anything. You're just feeling guilty.
Jan 18th 2018
55
                                    at this point you're either completely batshit or just trolling
Jan 18th 2018
56
                                         what's the public reaction to you? mostly youtube comments.
Jan 18th 2018
57
                                              Sorry - still not following you
Jan 18th 2018
58
                                                   I'm sure.
Jan 19th 2018
59
                                                        LOL. they handing out fancy okp badges to trolls nowadays?
Jan 19th 2018
60
                                                             pretty sure RJ is from Michigan so I think this is personal to him
Jan 19th 2018
61
                                                             it's more personal to him because of the MSU involvement?
Jan 19th 2018
65
                                                                  I rep the MAC.
Jan 19th 2018
67
                                                                       you rep the trolls
Jan 19th 2018
70
                                                                            I think we can go all the way this year
Jan 19th 2018
72
                                                             you're like 15 years late on this news also I thought you were done.
Jan 19th 2018
62
                                                                  i said i was done wasting my time attempting to convo with you
Jan 19th 2018
63
                                                                       I asked a question. you don't want to answer it.
Jan 19th 2018
66
                                                                            ^^this is you trolling
Jan 19th 2018
69
                                                                                 apparently I can troll you merely by recapping a thread.
Jan 19th 2018
71
                                                                                      no, your absurdly inaccurate recap is you trolling me
Jan 19th 2018
73
                                                                                           if you think it's inaccurate, or untruthful then that's on you
Jan 19th 2018
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                                                                                           RE: if you think it's inaccurate, or untruthful then that's on you
Jan 20th 2018
79
                                                                                           LOL.
Jan 24th 2018
89
                                                                                           ^^bumps this 4 day old dumb shit just to troll
Jan 24th 2018
90
                                                                                           physician, heal thyself.
Jan 24th 2018
92
This was an active coverup by MSU. (partial swipe)
Jan 18th 2018
45
fuck any institution that would willingly harbor this wretch...
Jan 18th 2018
49
Aly Raisman torched everyone in her testimony (swipe)
Jan 19th 2018
64
flames
Jan 19th 2018
74
new levels of ether. calling them all out.
Jan 20th 2018
77
MSU Board of Trustees is of course backing the pres (LINK)
Jan 19th 2018
68
fuck Michigan State
Jan 19th 2018
75
So is Izzo
Jan 20th 2018
78
      weird
Jan 20th 2018
81
      damn. used to like Izzo.
Jan 20th 2018
83
MSU President: "We didn't know! *kanyeshrug*"
Jan 20th 2018
82
it will get 1000x worse if they fight this
Jan 20th 2018
84
believed
Jan 20th 2018
85
^^^ keen peepage. hedge words. (im)plausible denial.
Jan 28th 2018
158
I think he just resigned.
Jan 24th 2018
110
Joel Ferguson, MSU vice chairman of the board, sinks to new low
Jan 23rd 2018
86
and people wonder why society doesn't trust institutions anymore.
Jan 23rd 2018
87
It's Sparty... what do you expect..
Jan 23rd 2018
88
what
Jan 24th 2018
91
sometimes this level of honesty is refreshing
Jan 24th 2018
93
He basically read the Tone Deaf Manual before that interview.
Jan 24th 2018
94
added a foreword and updated the bibliography.
Jan 28th 2018
159
wooooooow
Jan 24th 2018
100
perhaps the most telling part is calling it "this Nassar thing"
Jan 24th 2018
103
40-175 years....
Jan 24th 2018
95
Not enough
Jan 24th 2018
96
he'll never see the outside of a prison, again...
Jan 24th 2018
104
      no.
Jan 25th 2018
117
she was styling on him...I fux with this lady
Jan 24th 2018
97
Yeah, she absolutely destroyed his BS letter
Jan 24th 2018
99
      When she tossed it aside...I was like "Oh shit."
Jan 24th 2018
101
I consider myself anti capital punishment
Jan 24th 2018
98
      a rich, entitled doctor having to spend his life in federal prison
Jan 24th 2018
102
      Yep he got a lot more “examinations” in his future lol
Jan 24th 2018
106
           rape is apparently hilarious
Jan 24th 2018
115
                If it's happening to this reprehensible beast, it is.
Jan 25th 2018
119
                not really.
Jan 25th 2018
122
                Yep.
Jan 25th 2018
124
                I gotta go with RJCC on this. When people talk about "rape culture"
Jan 25th 2018
127
                     Fair enough.
Jan 25th 2018
128
                almost as hilarious as u going up/down this thread lecturing on behavior
Jan 25th 2018
120
                     so, just to recap, the troll is...not the guy following someone around
Jan 25th 2018
123
      those letter excerpts...holy shit.
Jan 25th 2018
116
           WTF.
Jan 25th 2018
118
           this is coming from a guy who genuinely things he should've been excused
Jan 25th 2018
121
                It's pretty terrifying. He clearly even somehow manipulated ...
Jan 25th 2018
125
Soooo when are officials at USOC, MSU and US Gymnastics
Jan 24th 2018
105
The US Gymnastic board members "resigned." Which isn't really shit
Jan 24th 2018
107
it's what really matters.
Jan 24th 2018
108
Anyone who showed any complicity deserves to be prosecuted
Jan 24th 2018
109
MSU pres just resigned in one of the worst public statements ever.
Jan 24th 2018
111
From the twittah
Jan 24th 2018
112
not a single bit of contrition from this school.
Jan 24th 2018
113
^
Jan 24th 2018
114
this had to have been written by the onion...
Jan 25th 2018
126
and of course, she gets several gold watches on the way out:
Jan 26th 2018
129
      Wow...
Jan 26th 2018
131
      this is mad...just, insane shit
Jan 26th 2018
135
Now the AD resigns...
Jan 26th 2018
130
Hope the right guy resigned
Jan 26th 2018
132
#prayforIzzo
Jan 26th 2018
133
Dantonio might not be long for his job either
Jan 26th 2018
137
Izzo & Dantonio ain’t safe:
Jan 26th 2018
134
It's a wrap...
Jan 26th 2018
136
Dana Altman and Richard Pitino still have jobs.
Jan 26th 2018
140
There are "retirement" rumblings. He is NOT safe.
Jan 26th 2018
141
I’d be surprised, but maybe there are details to come.
Jan 26th 2018
144
      It's metoothousand18. he let a coach, coach after punching &raping some1
Jan 26th 2018
145
      izzo gotta gizzo
Jan 26th 2018
146
we're in a new era, a lot of people that were safe before aren't now
Jan 26th 2018
142
      The terrible Richard Pitino story was two weeks ago.
Jan 26th 2018
143
Fire them all, burn the place to the ground
Jan 27th 2018
150
When do we start talking MSU death sentence?
Jan 26th 2018
138
over sixty million a year in revenue....
Jan 27th 2018
147
Kids chanted "We Love Izzo" tonight.
Jan 27th 2018
148
morally or in reality?
Jan 27th 2018
151
Magic cut Adreian Payne after his name surfaces in MSU sexual assault sc...
Jan 27th 2018
149
would they have cut a super star over it?
Jan 27th 2018
152
it would have been talked about differently at the draft
Jan 27th 2018
153
      nfl does the same shit
Jan 27th 2018
154
Former Michigan State player and LAC assistant Travis Walton on leave
Jan 27th 2018
155
      Izzo is finished. Dantonio is on standby..
Jan 28th 2018
156
"Sport is an empty vessel if we allow it be filled with rogue elements, ...
Jan 28th 2018
157
Izzo sticks to the script, gets rightly roasted. (video)
Jan 28th 2018
160
lmao
Jan 29th 2018
161
      RE: lmao
Jan 29th 2018
162
           cmon, the coaches reported everything.. this is all old news...
Jan 29th 2018
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                Joe Paterno agrees with you
Jan 29th 2018
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                     speaking of PSU
Jan 29th 2018
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                          RE: speaking of PSU
Jan 29th 2018
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                               I'm speaking specifically in the context of PSUs football program..
Jan 29th 2018
168
                               ...and JoePa 'allegedly' went to the AD the next day...
Jan 29th 2018
169
victims father tried to give Larry the business...
Feb 02nd 2018
170
MSU dean had videos of Nassar's sexual assaults on his work computer.
Mar 27th 2018
171
Holy fuck.
Mar 27th 2018
172
just burn that shithole down..
Mar 27th 2018
173
this whole thing fell out of the news cycle rather fast
Mar 28th 2018
174
dean of the med school smh
Mar 28th 2018
175
cotdamn, man...people are horrible....
Mar 29th 2018
177
They spent $500k monitoring his victims. Death Penalty needed.
Mar 29th 2018
176
yeah, they shouldn't be allowed to play sportsball anymore
Mar 29th 2018
178
Former MSU student accuses 3 2015 MSU players of rape.
Apr 09th 2018
179
Izzo gotta go
Apr 09th 2018
180
So the new president former Governor tried to pay off a victim for $250k
Apr 13th 2018
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East Landfill bonfire on deck...
Apr 13th 2018
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I thought we already hit the whole iceberg
Apr 13th 2018
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just when i thought they couldn't get much lower...
Apr 13th 2018
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Fuckers tried to cut the victim off too
Apr 13th 2018
185
yeah, i saw that. so so vile.
Apr 13th 2018
187
loss of accreditation / decertification
Apr 13th 2018
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like I said before...
Apr 13th 2018
188
Death penalty. No sports. Period.
Apr 13th 2018
189
MSU settles w/ the victims for 500 Million
May 16th 2018
190
How much $ does MSU make in a year?
May 16th 2018
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      Doesnt matter, the students will pay this
May 16th 2018
193
           Yeah, I was about to say that this will mostly lead to higher tuition
May 16th 2018
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Keep saying "alleged" but pay $500m
May 16th 2018
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even better. the 500M comes w/ a caveat
May 18th 2018
195
      lawd hammecy
May 18th 2018
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      wtf? no shame
May 18th 2018
197
What in the entire fuck is happening in EL?
Jun 04th 2018
198
my goodness.....dafuq
Jun 05th 2018
199
Is it that bad in Michigan? WTF
Jun 05th 2018
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they wildin
Jun 05th 2018
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Ohio State too..
Jul 22nd 2018
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There’s more
Sep 11th 2018
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ummm...I just...wow...
Sep 11th 2018
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      Jesus
Sep 12th 2018
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      Damn
Sep 12th 2018
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How did Larry Nassar deceive so many for so long?
Nov 14th 2018
207
https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/1085254307719663616
Jan 15th 2019
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I realize SPORTS and *all universities are corrupt
Jan 15th 2019
209
Can they honestly not find one decent human to put in charge, there???
Jan 15th 2019
210
i remember when they showed engler address protesting students
Jan 16th 2019
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