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"Sports "Analytics" people: Help me with Dragic vs. Brandon Knight"


  

          



http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2015&p1=dragigo01&y2=2015&p2=knighbr03&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=


Knight is better in the advanced stats

Knight is much, much younger

So who is better at the game of basketball?

I just want plea cops and excuses

I also want an argument for why Dragic is discussing
the max. This means Knight gets the max too, right?

Honest questions.



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Sports "Analytics" people: Help me with Dragic vs. Brandon Knight [View all] , Orbit_Established, Mon Feb-23-15 09:02 AM
 
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dragic is having a down year having to share the ball with Bledsoe/it2
Feb 23rd 2015
1
C+ plea cop, at best.
Feb 23rd 2015
2
      he just told you why.
Feb 24th 2015
47
           Cool, so Dragic gets the ball a lot = top 5 point guard in the L.
Feb 24th 2015
49
           post #60. n/m
Feb 24th 2015
62
           word.
Feb 24th 2015
68
lemme finish dis korver blog post. it'll help
Feb 23rd 2015
3
No, it won't. Finish it anyway tho.
Feb 23rd 2015
4
      you'll be happy. taking shots at analytics.
Feb 23rd 2015
5
           Gimme a hug, bro.
Feb 23rd 2015
6
           don't get me wrong, Dragic is very good
Feb 23rd 2015
10
                Is anyone talking about how the Suns UPGRADED (except OE)?
Feb 23rd 2015
13
           cmon.
Feb 24th 2015
63
LOL OE the analytics terrorist
Feb 23rd 2015
7
i thought this was a detente attmept?
Feb 23rd 2015
9
I just wanna know why the narrative isn't about a Suns "UPGRADE"
Feb 23rd 2015
14
Why is this an analytics question?
Feb 23rd 2015
18
Contrary to popular belief, I don't go to race first.
Feb 23rd 2015
21
      well in this case you should
Feb 23rd 2015
23
           http://tinyurl.com/ofnkavr <--in my pocket
Feb 23rd 2015
24
He came from the Bucks.
Feb 23rd 2015
19
      http://tinyurl.com/c77bx48
Feb 23rd 2015
26
Zero Dark O_E
Feb 24th 2015
46
      That's a hell of a nickname, thank you sir
Feb 24th 2015
59
           trademark, my nigga.
Feb 24th 2015
61
RFA vs. UFA. I'd rather have knight on a cursory analytics tip
Feb 23rd 2015
8
Dragic's usage rate is lower than Knight's
Feb 23rd 2015
11
I'll give that one a C/C-
Feb 23rd 2015
12
      I'm fine with a high usage rate
Feb 23rd 2015
20
           And is less efficient with those opportunities.
Feb 23rd 2015
22
Yeah I'd be happy if BK got 10 Per yr. And I was...
Feb 23rd 2015
15
BK isn't getting less than 13
Feb 23rd 2015
17
Knights gonna be great off the ball with Bledsoe running point
Feb 23rd 2015
16
I still think overall this trade hurts his money
Feb 23rd 2015
25
Sample size, I'd guess.
Feb 23rd 2015
27
lol
Feb 23rd 2015
28
w/o reading any replies...
Feb 23rd 2015
29
LOL @ everyone mentioning the &quot;All NBA 3rd Team&quot;
Feb 23rd 2015
30
      They weren't last year.
Feb 24th 2015
35
           Yes, they were.
Feb 24th 2015
37
                No, they weren't.
Feb 24th 2015
48
                     You're on record, tho. So we're good.
Feb 24th 2015
57
                          That he was better than them last year? sure.
Feb 24th 2015
60
                               You know what? I DIG that argument. Still not worth the max, tho.
Feb 24th 2015
64
Hawks Jason Terry vs. pre-MVP Steve Nash
Feb 24th 2015
31
LOL. No.
Feb 24th 2015
32
I'm comparing their CAREER TRAJECTORY not necessarily their game
Feb 24th 2015
69
      Strong.
Feb 25th 2015
76
RE: Hawks Jason Terry vs. pre-MVP Steve Nash
Feb 24th 2015
41
For the record: O_E thinks Dragic is better.
Feb 24th 2015
33
straw man didn't work out like you wanted. Sorry!
Feb 24th 2015
34
Oh, it "worked" beautifully. I got people talking "ALL NBA 3rd Team"
Feb 24th 2015
36
RE: For the record: O_E thinks Dragic is better.
Feb 24th 2015
38
Who is she?
Feb 24th 2015
39
LOL. Is this some sort of revelation?
Feb 24th 2015
52
Me v. Haralabob, or Why OE has a point
Feb 24th 2015
40
Haralbob is a smart analytics guy
Feb 24th 2015
42
so you made a claim and then asked him to pay you to prove it?
Feb 24th 2015
43
Came at me with snark so I pulled his card and he ran
Feb 24th 2015
45
The GOAT aint paying you money for your models
Feb 24th 2015
50
      Thats all great. He made a dumb point and got snarky.
Feb 24th 2015
54
           also why is his comment taken as an "analytics" comment
Feb 24th 2015
55
you are a hidden gem around here
Feb 24th 2015
65
There's about 8 things wrong with his Wiggins argument
Feb 24th 2015
44
O_E I hope you crash Sloan in your town this year
Feb 24th 2015
51
do we need a spin-off for this? because I have so many questions...
Feb 24th 2015
56
OE vs Guinness and nobody else
Feb 24th 2015
53
To be honest, arguing this shit is beneath me
Feb 24th 2015
58
Knight may get the max, too, his max just isn't as high
Feb 24th 2015
66
Fair enough n/m
Feb 24th 2015
67
      main thing i could see in dragic's favor is a larger body of work
Feb 24th 2015
70
I think the on/off court numbers are where people tend to doubt Knight
Feb 25th 2015
71
That +/- business is super flawed, though
Feb 25th 2015
72
      It's definitely super noisy
Feb 25th 2015
73
      RE: That +/- business is super flawed, though
Feb 25th 2015
74
           lmaoooooo
Feb 25th 2015
75
Dragic getting 80 Mil!?!?!? Why!?!?! Explain
Jun 25th 2015
77
This is a redundant question, is it not?
Jun 25th 2015
78
      It's pretty valid imo.
Jun 25th 2015
79
           Thank you, Billy. NOBODY answered the question.
Jun 25th 2015
80
           K, is not "why a max deal?" and "why $80M?" the same question tho?
Jun 26th 2015
81
"Come and Talk to OE. He really wants to know youuuu"
Nov 02nd 2015
82
ooh, kill'em!!
Nov 02nd 2015
83
like, did literally anyone "love" him?
Nov 13th 2015
92
Goran is playing like some bullshit. Brandon is not.
Nov 08th 2015
84
Rondo excuse.
Nov 17th 2015
121
Oh
Nov 13th 2015
85
easily the best game i have ever seen him play
Nov 13th 2015
86
      Not saying much, you don't watch him play much
Nov 13th 2015
87
           you're such a defensive pussy, cant even take a compliment
Nov 13th 2015
88
                he gonna be celebrating like shit though when were 60
Nov 13th 2015
89
                I mean the Brow has a shot at the 75 selection, I guess
Nov 13th 2015
90
                Shawn... He said "nobody cares" yet he's in every post. Weird.
Nov 13th 2015
95
                     every nba post? wow, you don't say. like 75% of the posters here
Nov 13th 2015
97
                          Theres a BK post, you there. A post about Rondo, you there.
Nov 13th 2015
100
                               could be said about any post, and my opinions arent unilateral
Nov 13th 2015
102
                                    MKG is from Jersey. Philly can't have him. And I don't like agendas eith...
Nov 13th 2015
104
                                         dude camden county/south jersey, that's philly, come the fuck on
Nov 13th 2015
106
                lol
Nov 13th 2015
91
                Take a compliment? Nigga I didn't play. Wtf is your mad ass talking abou...
Nov 13th 2015
93
                     OK, so no compliment, but yes you take insults over his play. Gotcha
Nov 13th 2015
94
                     You don't care, yet you keep offering your opinion. Weird.
Nov 13th 2015
99
                          dude, you, me or anybody else can opine.
Nov 13th 2015
101
                               Yes he was playing at an All Star or close to it level.
Nov 13th 2015
103
                                    Caring=emotional, opinion=evaluative
Nov 13th 2015
105
                                         So you're glossing over the "close to it level" huh?
Nov 14th 2015
111
                                              Are you looking for some small ass victory here?
Nov 14th 2015
112
                                                   No, you could've admitted you were wrong 10 days ago, but you didn't.
Nov 14th 2015
113
                                                        I'll take back kinda trashy if you admit all-star was a reach. Fair?
Nov 14th 2015
114
                     Bwahah. Nigga said "compliment" like he's your nepew and shit
Nov 13th 2015
96
                          does he not take everything kentucky incredibly personal?
Nov 13th 2015
98
they coppin pleas it aint Analytics its Analwhiteguys
Nov 13th 2015
107
So he's like homesick? LMAO. Weird. Beat writing is a tough gig
Nov 13th 2015
108
The writer relates a lot to the situation so he was probably happy to wr...
Nov 14th 2015
109
      interesting, yeah it's a tough business to have a family
Nov 14th 2015
110
      Pretty sure many people who are bad at their job have reasons
Nov 16th 2015
116
Damn you still aggy that Goran better than Jeremy?
Nov 17th 2015
122
Jezen ?
May 02nd 2016
125
http://only-sneakers.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/british-knights-kings...
Nov 16th 2015
115
Incredible game tonight
Nov 16th 2015
117
      he did huertas hella dirty on that stepback three lmao!
Nov 16th 2015
118
           Lol yeh he did..2nd time he's been broken off this year
Nov 17th 2015
119
           http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gpk/images/8/81/Card_527.jpg/revisio...
Nov 17th 2015
120
http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Screen-shot-2011-1...
Nov 21st 2015
123
Zdrávo!
May 01st 2016
124
oh.
May 03rd 2016
126
Glorious.
May 03rd 2016
127
Um you backtracked off this, my man
May 03rd 2016
129
      http://tinyurl.com/hxt9qrh
May 03rd 2016
130
           Ljubljana is SO tight. Highly recommended.
May 04th 2016
131
KER SEM PLJUNIL VROČ OGENJ!
May 03rd 2016
128
L. Didn't realize his game was so black.
May 14th 2016
132
So we can stop this now?
May 15th 2016
133
Yeah, he was ass in game 7.
May 15th 2016
134
Can Brandon Knight make the playoffs?
May 16th 2016
135
      Sure when he stays on the court. Gotta stay healthy.
May 16th 2016
136
           Oh, so BK is a busted ass, low country backwater Can't Heal. Got it.
May 16th 2016
137
           As long as you can't add "Lit on fire by Kyle Lowry"... cool
May 16th 2016
138
           cool. lemme know when BK shoots over 42% and does more than put up empty
May 16th 2016
139
                Because Seasoned Playoff Vet, Goran, has stats that mean something?
May 16th 2016
140
                     Stats that mean more than Playoff Virgin Brandon Knights? Yes, obviously
May 17th 2016
141
                          Nah... pedestrian stats in a 30 yr olds only legit playoff run just mean...
May 17th 2016
142
                               &pedestrian stats by 5yr vet in his athletic prime on a trash team means...
May 18th 2016
143
                                    Eh, Knight is 24, and a point guard.
May 18th 2016
144

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