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133. "RE: Not criticizing people who like these movies, criticizing myself..."
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>...and the movies themselves
>
>These aren’t “good” movies. They’re not. They’re
>at-times fun, sure. And in some spots they’ve aimed to be
>something more inspired - Guardians and Black Panther most
>notably.

So Guardians of the Galaxy and Black Panther are not good, but they are "aimed to be something more inspired." But "inspired" is not good?

>
>But by and large these aren’t -that- far removed from
>Transformers. Excessive CGI, wooden dialogue, entire setpieces
>with no tangible sets visible...the difference is we like the
>intellectual property more and the actors make the most of the
>least: I mean goddamn we’ve got Mark Ruffalo pleading with
>Benedict Cumberbatch about a genocidal alien invading, and it
>still actually comes off earnest.

Wooden dialogue is not a critique i could put on Marvel movies. No way. Are you talking about Ronan or Thanos? I don't assign any particular high esteem to Mark Ruffalo or benedict Cumberbatch. They're "good," but they are not "above" this source material.

>
>Good movies challenge their audiences and take risks. I mean
>they killed off Spidey and T’Challa, come on. (They even had
>the nerve to kill Groot AFTER T’Challa!)

Ah okay, the critics definition. Filmmakers can fail miserably whilst taking risks - resulting in a movie that is not good. I don't give out "E" for effort or spirit. This is not punk rock.

>
>These flicks are just big, loud, and formulaic to me by now.
>I’ll see the next one just to see this story to conclusion
>then I’m out. I promise you buildings will fall, things will
>explode, people will get punched, and the good guys will win.

There's not much else you can do with this genre. I hope you're not a fan of the comic book page, either.

  

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The Avengers: Infinity War Discussion Post (SPOILERS WITHIN) [View all] , bwood, Mon Apr-23-18 09:57 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Too violent for an 8 and 6 year-old?
Apr 23rd 2018
1
once I get home, I'll inbox you
Apr 23rd 2018
2
I got a 9 year old that wants in, mainly for BP
Apr 23rd 2018
3
my 6 year old daughter has been like counting the days
Apr 24th 2018
7
Took my 5 year old. He was fine
Apr 30th 2018
82
From your post it would seem that bodies drop and not just randoms
Apr 23rd 2018
4
man, I was straight scurred to read your post
Apr 24th 2018
5
I will be in the IMAX in exactly 50 hours
Apr 24th 2018
6
tell the truth, you'd see it even if it was trash
Apr 24th 2018
8
      listen, you are not wrong
Apr 24th 2018
9
      Gotcha.
Apr 24th 2018
11
      even if it were known confirmed trash
Apr 24th 2018
10
My full spoiler free review.
Apr 24th 2018
12
nice review, i will toe the line with you
Apr 27th 2018
16
I would say the telekinetic guy *definitely* had presence
Apr 30th 2018
84
      The Ebony Maw, he's Thanos' mouth piece
May 02nd 2018
114
YO
Apr 26th 2018
13
How I feel right now
Apr 26th 2018
14
RE: How I feel right now
Apr 27th 2018
19
I am just happy they did my dog Thanos right!!!!!!
Apr 27th 2018
15
this captain Marvel movie has a LOT to clean up
Apr 27th 2018
17
Quite a 10 year payoff. Way too much to unpack
Apr 27th 2018
18
It feels like someone set off a nuke at the All-Star Game.
Apr 27th 2018
20
This is exactly right
Apr 27th 2018
23
RE: This is exactly right
Apr 27th 2018
24
Perfect description
Apr 27th 2018
25
^^give this man a gold star
Apr 27th 2018
27
ctrl + f + antman
Apr 27th 2018
21
RE: ctrl + f + antman
Apr 27th 2018
22
yah mon. lived up to the hype and then some.
Apr 27th 2018
26
That was exhausting
Apr 27th 2018
28
spoilers
Apr 27th 2018
29
Spoilers Inside
Apr 27th 2018
31
      Viz was hard to watch
Apr 27th 2018
36
      RE: Spoilers Inside
Apr 27th 2018
37
      I think Vision will return....
Apr 29th 2018
79
It wasn't Hugo.
Apr 27th 2018
30
LOL
Apr 27th 2018
33
Can I make one *mild* complaint about the deaths?
Apr 27th 2018
32
This is what I was alluding to with the stakes
Apr 27th 2018
34
wholeheartedly agree
Apr 27th 2018
35
Legit complaint and I agree
Apr 27th 2018
39
RE: Legit complaint and I agree
Apr 27th 2018
40
      cosign on the Hulk theory
Apr 30th 2018
85
Agreed
Apr 27th 2018
45
I'm perfectly fine with those particular deaths
Apr 28th 2018
47
It's a movie with an infinity gauntlet
Apr 28th 2018
49
that's not really a legit complaint tho
Apr 29th 2018
77
The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 29th 2018
81
      Everyone at my screening was affected (spoilers)
Apr 30th 2018
86
      RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
93
      RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
94
           RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
102
                RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
105
didn't bother me at all.
Apr 30th 2018
95
I'll even pre-empt that - once Dr. Strange gave away the stone
May 02nd 2018
116
This is how it went in the comics
May 20th 2018
183
Also, who is going to get that man a shield??
Apr 27th 2018
38
It won’t be Shuri
Apr 27th 2018
44
      If it wasn't onscreen, I think they're fine
Apr 30th 2018
83
That movie was phenomenal. Some thoughts:
Apr 27th 2018
41
Awesome flick
Apr 27th 2018
42
yep
Apr 27th 2018
43
The All Star Game comparison is right on (And question)
Apr 27th 2018
46
I say Gamora comes back
Apr 28th 2018
50
I imagine some sort of flim flam with the stone restoring her life.
Apr 28th 2018
51
I think Vision might come back...
Apr 28th 2018
53
      He's basically software, so yeah.
May 02nd 2018
112
This is why I wish old school epics were still a thing.....
Apr 28th 2018
48
The ending fell flat for me
Apr 28th 2018
52
Yeah, didn't care for Quill's actions. Also on Dr. Strange:
Apr 28th 2018
54
      Quill was stupid, Strange made sense
Apr 28th 2018
55
           Quill's actions were perfectly in line with his character.
Apr 29th 2018
65
                agreed. pretty much the same thing happens in GOTG 2
Apr 29th 2018
75
Props to Disney for having the confidence to take risks
Apr 28th 2018
56
They didnt take risks
Apr 28th 2018
57
      Only cause we old cynical movie goers/comic readers.
Apr 29th 2018
61
           The stakes were as high as possible.
Apr 30th 2018
106
Saw it a second time. Audience notes:
Apr 29th 2018
58
Agreed. Those deaths meant something
Apr 29th 2018
62
      Less cynicism and less information
Apr 29th 2018
64
      but that's NOT cynicism. i assume you like me read the comics
Apr 29th 2018
66
           Definitely read and collected comics, but it is different
Apr 29th 2018
70
           That's the thing, we gotta remove ourselves from all the history
Apr 29th 2018
76
                Ok, I can dig that
Apr 29th 2018
80
How does Banner know so much about Thanos?
Apr 29th 2018
59
He saw thor massacre all the asgardians
Apr 29th 2018
63
whenever thanos attacks the asgardians initially
Apr 30th 2018
87
RE: The Avengers: Infinity War Discussion Post (SPOILERS WITHIN)
Apr 29th 2018
60
also can we dead the weak villain ideas at this point?
Apr 29th 2018
67
Disagree on one of those.
Apr 29th 2018
68
FAIR
Apr 29th 2018
69
I agree
Apr 29th 2018
71
Who else wanted that raggedy robed figure to be
Apr 29th 2018
72
Could be in part 2
Apr 29th 2018
73
RE: Who else wanted that raggedy robed figure to be
Apr 29th 2018
78
Yeah, a lot to unpack. Thoughts:
Apr 29th 2018
74
rabbit
Apr 30th 2018
90
Gamorra (spoiler)
Apr 30th 2018
91
I believe from what i read is hawkeye will be in Ant-man Wasp flick
Apr 30th 2018
107
HOLY. SHIT.
Apr 30th 2018
88
pretty good. good mix of everything
Apr 30th 2018
89
Pretty good analogy
Apr 30th 2018
92
yup.
Apr 30th 2018
96
RE: Pretty good analogy
May 02nd 2018
109
      none of that is true. I *still* haven't seen the first cap
May 02nd 2018
110
           but you've SEEN everything but Cap 1, so your point is invalidated
May 03rd 2018
121
                RE: but you've SEEN everything but Cap 1, so your point is invalidated
May 03rd 2018
122
                I don't think you know what invalidated means
May 07th 2018
144
                     Just one more time, and I'll go slow
May 17th 2018
180
RE: pretty good. good mix of everything
Apr 30th 2018
99
      yup, a bunch of your starters are on crutches icing up and it's like
Apr 30th 2018
103
all i know is if some Eternals show up in part two
Apr 30th 2018
97
a silver surfer fly by
Apr 30th 2018
98
I really want Silver Surfer in MCU IN PART 2
Apr 30th 2018
104
Warlock is definitely in GotG 3 not sure if he will make an appearance i...
May 01st 2018
108
They better NOT bring a fucking Starbucks to Wakanda for part 2
Apr 30th 2018
100
Kinda mad we didnt get the....(SPOILERS WITHIN)
Apr 30th 2018
101
yeah the ringer went over a lot of trailer -> movie changes
May 19th 2018
182
Why no Valkyrie?
May 02nd 2018
111
The problem w/Valkyrie and the whole opening scene
May 02nd 2018
113
yep - main issue with movie is didn't see BP and Ragnarok character popu...
May 02nd 2018
115
Joe Russo Confirms Valkyrie Survived Infinity War
May 04th 2018
123
Dope - 10 years of build and it paid off.
May 02nd 2018
117
I just want to add that they NAILED the credit roll
May 03rd 2018
118
The entire score was underrated
May 04th 2018
126
Please tell me where were all of the High Tech weapons in Wakanda?
May 03rd 2018
119
Whatcha mean, they had plenty of tech
May 03rd 2018
120
the wakanda tech made regular guns look stupid
May 04th 2018
124
They actually had a few shots of Wakandian ships
May 07th 2018
140
the joke is on me really. They make the same movie, I go and see it
May 04th 2018
125
Lol no it didn't
May 05th 2018
127
GotG2 gets better with repeat viewings
May 05th 2018
130
had the same exact feeling while watching civil war
May 05th 2018
128
You guys are the real mighty heroes, how proud I am of u
May 05th 2018
129
      Not criticizing people who like these movies, criticizing myself...
May 05th 2018
131
          
           LOL
May 05th 2018
134
                *moot
May 09th 2018
160
lol, what? there's a reason people are silent at the end
May 05th 2018
132
It's most likely much too sophisticated for you to grasp
May 06th 2018
136
I thought you were into discourse? Debate? Dialogue?
May 07th 2018
139
      Oh, I am. But we've long established that you're several tiers beneath m...
May 07th 2018
142
           damn, dude
May 08th 2018
151
                Harsh...and all facts.
May 08th 2018
153
                     you're the worst poster on the boards and everyone knows it
May 08th 2018
154
                          You want that to be true, you really do 😆😆😂😂🤣🤣
May 08th 2018
157
                               U typed all that shit on your phone. Man that’s sad. 💩
May 08th 2018
158
                                    ....and true, more importantly. And you seem the type to love poop emoji...
May 08th 2018
159
Marvel/Disney has a hell of a formula
May 10th 2018
165
      FACTS
May 10th 2018
167
i can't believe they brought back the eyeball
May 05th 2018
135
I hated that retcon....
May 11th 2018
168
Agents of SHIELD addressed the Thanos situation (SWIPE)
May 06th 2018
137
RE: Agents of SHIELD addressed the Thanos situation (SWIPE)
May 07th 2018
138
I completely forget about that show.
May 07th 2018
141
too bad
May 08th 2018
156
Infinity War puts every Marvel show in an awkward position
May 07th 2018
143
      Not necessarily, there's the time stone
May 14th 2018
169
So James Gunn leaked Groot's final words
May 07th 2018
145
look how pressed you are. This reply isn't even in response to me
May 08th 2018
155
      LMAO wait... I'm pressed because I referrenced something you said...
Aug 07th 2018
201
So... If all of the TV shows are connected...
May 07th 2018
146
Obviously
May 07th 2018
147
just have the storyline take place before IW
May 08th 2018
148
right.
May 08th 2018
150
Yep. No big deal - Avengers 4 is out next year. Any TV show
May 09th 2018
161
yes and no
May 08th 2018
152
I gave up on the tv shows
May 09th 2018
162
n/m
May 10th 2018
163
The soul stone scene was so dope in IMAX 3D
May 08th 2018
149
With Carrie Coon in the cast
May 10th 2018
164
PALES compared to Black Panther
May 10th 2018
166
So..nobody in the theater knew that there is a sequel coming?
May 14th 2018
170
      You can lead into sequels...
May 15th 2018
178
           huh? the next movie doesn't have a name yet.
May 15th 2018
179
           There wasn't anything about the ending that didn't make sense though...
May 17th 2018
181
                Doesn't mean we should ignore the basics of storytelling...
May 25th 2018
184
                     i guess i'm just confused
May 25th 2018
185
                     which would be...
May 26th 2018
186
How many times have you all seen this?
May 14th 2018
171
Once...hoping to see it again this weekend
May 14th 2018
172
I can't see it again until I can go with my wife
May 14th 2018
174
Only movie I've seen three times in theaters was mad max
May 14th 2018
176
after a lil over 2 weeks...this shit is already #5 all time worldwide.
May 14th 2018
173
It is killing it overseas. Over 700 million???
May 14th 2018
175
All these infinity war memes are killing me
May 14th 2018
177
literally the only reason i go on IG anymore
May 27th 2018
187
Im starting to think infinity war wont pass black panther
May 27th 2018
188
It's going to crack $2B though
May 29th 2018
189
bluray rip drip drip
Jul 30th 2018
190
*Web Rip
Jul 30th 2018
191
only a matter of time
Jul 31st 2018
192
Put it on yesterday, expecting to just have it as background
Aug 01st 2018
197
finally rewatched
Jul 31st 2018
193
the casting
Jul 31st 2018
194
the director's commentary was dope.
Aug 01st 2018
195
Director's Roundtable
Aug 01st 2018
196
finally saw this
Aug 02nd 2018
198
Haven't seen it yet, but this sold me.
Aug 07th 2018
200
I'm genuinely surprised at the "not as fun" critique.
Aug 07th 2018
202
this shit was a masterpiece, ppl
Aug 07th 2018
199

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