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>First off, let's get this out the way: this is not a "hip >hop" film. It's not about the history of hip hop, or "being >true to hip hop," or nailing the cadence of Big's flow, or a >searing indictment of Puff's materialism in the late 90's. >That's not what the movie is meant to be.
Lord of the Rings is not a HipHop film...Notorious is a film about one of the biggest icons in the history of hip hop. A documentary i agree it isn't but it was enjoyable
Brian's Song > Notorious > Prefontaine > The Dennis Rodman Story
>I mentioned this in The Lesson, and I'm going to mention it >here: there will be some on this site, and some in the "hip >hop community," who will be upset with this film, simply >because it's not raw, uncut documentary footage of Big, Puff, >Kim, and company from way back then. That's too bad. > The ending of the movie they showed the characters and the real people they portrayed. If they left it at just a fictional account, then i would have taken it differently.
>I thought it was good. Tended to go from episode to episode >in Big's life, but that's okay. I thought Jamal "Gravy" >Woolard was damn good as Big.
Agreed
And yeah, "but he didn't get >Biggie's cadence down" or his voice wasn't as deep as Big's >when he rapped, but that was beside the point. Because the >essence of the Big that's here is the charismatic Big, the one >who charms everyone around him, from Jan to Voletta to Kim to >Faith. The best parts of the film are when we see Big's >charisma, whether he's acting cool and calm when Jan tells him >she's pregnant, whether he's talking shit to Kim and later >encouraging her to rap, or whether he's spittin' game at >Faith... I mean, you just GOT it, and I think that was the >point...
also agree
> >As to the question of why there was no focus on Charli >Baltimore, or why we didn't see The Lox (or Ma$e DAMMIT!), the >focus of the story here is Big and, specifically, the women >that Big deals with the most... the ones who appeared to have >the most influence and effect on him... during a Q & A >afterward, director George Tillman and co-writer Reggie Rock >Bythewood talked about whether or not to include Charli >Baltimore, and whether including her was really important, and >they decided not to include her, because you got the point >with Big's other random indiscretions (including one that will >most likely get loud applause and cheers from the sistas in >the audience)...
Charlie Baltimore seemed to have a bit more of a role in his life than a random white chick groupie in a hotel... I think it is hard to watch a movie like this and not feeling like you want to see more. If they make a movie about Halle Berry and focus on Eric Benet and Dave Justice people are gonna say....what about Wesley...Michael Ealy....wtf? strange analogy i know
the point of the film wasn't necessarily to >include each and every person in Big's life, or include each >and every song that Big performed... >
Just Who Shot Ya...
>Now, the main problem I had with the movie was that the script >is very on-the-nose. Reggie Rock Bythewood talked about >having misgivings about doing the rewrites on the script when >it was offered, because he felt that Big was "an unlikeable >guy." So he found a through line and decided to tell the >story of Big becoming a man. Which led to obvious moments >where he would say something to the effect of, "hey, I'm just >trying to be a man," or "yo, I'm a man now." Er. Also, >during the Q & A, Derek Luke said he spent some time hanging >with Puff, and said that Puff is still distraught over losing >Big, and that Puff also felt that had the media not >continuously thrown gas on the East Coast-West Coast flames >back then, that both Big and Pac would still be with us. I >mention that because I personally would have liked to have >seen the film go at the media a little more for its role in >the beef and the ensuing deaths. >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63QL-Zo1F78&feature=related
the movie made it seem as if they were pacifists in the whole east coast west coast beef lol...i mean both sides did a lot of shit talking to keep it heated between both coasts.
It is one thing to say "...it's not about the history..." or try to pass it off as just a movie, but people will probably want more. Just like you want it to focus on the media's role, i wanted to see it focus more on everyone's accountability from the top on down.
>And of course, since Puff was involved with the project, and >Voletta Wallace is one of the film's producers, you'd think >that they wouldn't be portrayed in any kind of negative >light... and you'd be correct. It appears that the only >people in the world of this movie who had flaws were Big and >Kim. Faith was almost saintly and righteous in her quest to >make Big a faithful man. And as mentioned, Kim was young, >dumb, and in love with a man who told her that "I got you," >and when he broke that promise she acted out, including one >cringe-inducing scene where she's onstage performing her verse >of Get Money and glaring angrily at an offstage Big every so >often. >
I think they played Kim's role lol
This movie reminded me of the Panther movie. It was funny to me and then at the end it tried to get serious on the CIA and heroin issue but Bobby Brown Dwayne Wayne and Mark Curry kept me from taking it seriously.
This is my first take someone's quotes and respond type joints, so do take it personal like i am dissing your opinion.
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