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46. "a little bit of both, i'll admit."
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>i'm putting this down to either a bad day at the office or the
>insidious atmosphere of PTP, lol

also, i won't deny having a slight hard-on for the poster, who has frequently been quite rude to me in posts

but axes to grind aside, objectively speaking, i do not think that he offers a worthy argument at all. i'm offended enough to hear someone suggest that Spielberg is better than Hitchcock, but opinions are opinions. his justification for his opinion, however, just does not hold water, IMO

he was the one who brought up the fact that he was in his 20s, and hence, could not "feel the impact" of Hitchcock. with that kind of logic, any director who retired or died before the 1980s has no chance!

sure, Spielberg had done plenty of work before the 80s, as had Kubrick, for whom the poster also professed admiration. but the fact that they continued to work through the 80s, 90s and 00s (and in Spielberg's case, still continues to work) he can at least say that they were active during his lifetime, and hence he "felt their impact" in a way that he could not feel Hitchcock, who died in 1980, before he was born.

basically, it's the same kind of logic that rules those MTV, VH1 and BET countdowns of "The Greatest _______ OF ALL TIME!!" where 75% of the lists are always drawn from the past 5 years.

and even if you look past the whole "i wasn't alive to feel the impact" thing, the argument is still lame... talking about Spielberg's technical innovations, but not giving the same regard to Hitchcock's considerable innovations just because he didn't live long enough to create computer-generated dinosaurs.

basically, it's an argument without context and thus, without merit.

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Seriously though, if Spielberg isn't the GOAT then who is? [View all] , Majhik101, Wed Feb-06-08 09:46 AM
 
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well... Hitchcock made a ridiculous number of classics
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Hitch is top 5... but I'm only in my 20s
Feb 06th 2008
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      ha, Hitchcock has some stinkers
Feb 06th 2008
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      Yeah Topaz was unbelievably bad. i thought i had the wrong flick
Feb 06th 2008
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           RE: Yeah Topaz was unbelievably bad. i thought i had the wrong flick
Feb 06th 2008
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                On the Waterfront IS a masterpiece.
Feb 06th 2008
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      so this post is about nostalgia and familiarity.
Feb 06th 2008
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      how bout...
Feb 06th 2008
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           RE: how bout...
Feb 06th 2008
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      oh... so this post is all about YOUR limited experience, then?
Feb 06th 2008
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           yeah, i laughed at this as well
Feb 06th 2008
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           kap, was there any need for that?
Feb 06th 2008
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           yes... yes, there was.
Feb 06th 2008
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                what are you, in your 90s?
Feb 06th 2008
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                     if you are talking about 'greatest of ALL TIME'
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                          you can still engage in a discussion
Feb 06th 2008
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                               see... the problem is: I'M not in my 20s.
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                                    if you feel that way, no
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                                    by the way
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                                         Spielberg did a lot of stuff before 1987
Feb 06th 2008
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                                         "this post aroused my curiosity" - AFKAP
Feb 07th 2008
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                                              yes... AND?
Feb 07th 2008
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                                    AFKAP ur not a master thespian when it comes to the cinema
Feb 06th 2008
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                                         master thespian when it comes to film...wow
Feb 06th 2008
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                                         when all else fails...
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                                         i didn't want to say anything, bro... he sonned himself.
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                                              so let me get this right...
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                                                   he's not a master thespian dude. don't sweat it
Feb 06th 2008
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                                                   i apologized because i sincerely felt sorry
Feb 06th 2008
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                                                        RE: no you didn't.
Feb 07th 2008
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                                                             and you know this HOW?
Feb 07th 2008
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                                                                  because you're transparent.
Feb 07th 2008
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                                                                  oh you're still here?
Feb 07th 2008
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                                                                  Where did you apologize again?
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                                                                       i inboxed him.
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                                         master thespian???
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                                              RE: master thespian???
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                                                   i thought we were talking about DIRECTING... not ACTING.
Feb 07th 2008
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                                                        lol it's amazing how bad u have it in for me
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                                                             exaggeration will get you everything...
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                                                                  homie, do whatever makes u feel big
Feb 07th 2008
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           *acknowledges you*
Feb 06th 2008
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I'd definitely take Spielberg over Kubrick.
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u think Spielberg's best>Kubrick's best?
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      There's simply more of Spielberg's best.
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           oh i agree. i just wondered if u saw it the same way i see it.
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                NOPE.
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                     i used to be like you, lol.
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                          You used to like better movies?
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                               Kubrick's timeline runs right into Spielberg's.
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                                    It was both snark and serious. If you're in your 20s...
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                                         ^^^^master thespian of cinema^^^^
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                                         u guys made too big a deal out of that comment
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                                              LOL
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                                              wow, i have a life but thanks for missing me
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                                              I think you're gettin shit twisted, friend.
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Christopher Nolan
Feb 06th 2008
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LOL. dude, are YOU christopher nolan?
Feb 06th 2008
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      hah
Feb 06th 2008
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      Naw. Colin Farrell this week. Spilt personality.
Feb 07th 2008
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Hitchcock. Dude shaped the game. Nuff said.
Feb 06th 2008
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Kurosawa
Feb 06th 2008
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NOT EVEN CLOSE
Feb 06th 2008
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Will Smith
Feb 06th 2008
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he's quite versatile
Feb 06th 2008
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Aw, hell naw
Feb 07th 2008
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there are such things as foreign directors
Feb 06th 2008
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Wrong on all fronts!
Feb 06th 2008
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the hate you have for Kubrick
Feb 06th 2008
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I disagree
Feb 07th 2008
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this is a pretty darned good analogy
Feb 07th 2008
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      yep... and dude is calling ME pretentious.
Feb 07th 2008
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           I'd say Kubrick has about 4 great films.
Feb 07th 2008
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RE: Seriously though, if Spielberg isn't the GOAT then who is?
Feb 06th 2008
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^^ as always, the voice of reason ^^
Feb 07th 2008
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I'm saying. McDonalds serves more burgers than anyone in the...
Feb 07th 2008
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good response
Feb 07th 2008
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Tyler Perry!
Feb 07th 2008
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