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37. "I guess I'm just surprised"
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Normally when I love a movie, I want to discuss it in depth. Even with people who didn't like it, as long as they aren't being dismissive (which I don't think I was).


>1) I don't remember many plot elements because they weren't
>very important to me on first viewing

So the plot is not important, and the movie is all about tone? I care a lot about plot.


>2) If you didn't love the movie based on tone, cinematography,
>originality alone, there isn't much hope

I was impressed with how the tone of the movie was created and maintained, but it was so long and with such a sparse and confusing plot that I didn't thoroughly enjoy the movie.
I am not one who generally cares much about cinematography.
I could give it bonus points to originality, but that only goes so far. It still has to be an entertaining movie.


>I always like reading essays/reviews after a flick though, and
>Ebert's great movies list is usually good:
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> http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20070908%2FREVIEWS08%2F70909001%2F1023

Thanks, I am checking it out...
Good article. And it helps explain why I didn't like it but others loved it.

This quote from Ebert (who quotes Tarr) probably sums up why I DIDN'T like the film:

To know where we stand as the film begins, we should start with these words by the director, Tarr: "I despise stories, as they mislead people into believing that something has happened. In fact, nothing really happens as we flee from one condition to another ... All that remains is time. This is probably the only thing that's still genuine -- time itself; the years, days, hours, minutes and seconds."

Applying that philosophy to movies doesn't sound very entertaining at all. It's a very interesting concept, but in my opinion, does not make for entertaining movies; rather, I found it boring in its execution.

I love movies because I love stories; it all makes sense now that the point of this film was NOT to tell a story.

Thus, this movie, however brilliant it may be in some circles, was simply not meant/made for me. And that's fine; I am still glad I checked it out.

  

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WERCKMEISTER HARMONIES [View all] , Deebot, Thu Oct-04-07 12:33 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Prolly the greatest movie (fictional narrative) of this decade so far
Oct 04th 2007
1
I was hoping you had seen it
Oct 04th 2007
2
      Damn you. LOL.
Oct 04th 2007
3
           RE: Damn you. LOL.
Oct 04th 2007
4
                Or we can say Werckmeister isn't slow, it's just that most
Oct 05th 2007
8
                     RE
Oct 05th 2007
9
                     this is the truth too
Oct 05th 2007
10
                          Running time, too
Oct 05th 2007
11
                               speaking of running time
Oct 05th 2007
12
                                    Intermissions
Oct 05th 2007
14
no, I will not let this post fall yet
Oct 05th 2007
5
i put it in my queu.
Oct 05th 2007
6
      not good enough
Oct 05th 2007
7
           i put it at 5
Oct 05th 2007
13
Anyway I can find this film online?
Oct 05th 2007
15
I just saw the DVD through netflix
Oct 05th 2007
16
      I need to get a Netflix account badly. n/m
Oct 06th 2007
19
I foolishly missed this
Oct 06th 2007
17
queue it up!
Oct 06th 2007
18
All this time I thought you hated it so much that you
Oct 06th 2007
20
      that silence was the sound of my shame
Oct 07th 2007
21
Well, you got one more person to watch it...
Feb 05th 2008
22
Thanks man
Feb 06th 2008
23
RE: Well, you got one more person to watch it...
Feb 06th 2008
24
      is Damnation good?
Feb 06th 2008
25
      RE: is Damnation good?
Feb 06th 2008
27
           It didn't affect me much
Feb 22nd 2008
28
      RE: Well, you got one more person to watch it...
Feb 06th 2008
26
Satantango R1 DVD tentative release date - 7/22 n/m
Jun 21st 2008
29
excellent...I guess it'll span two discs?
Jun 22nd 2008
30
just got disc 1 in the mail
Aug 22nd 2008
31
      I rewatched it last week
Aug 22nd 2008
33
I put it in my New Classics list...
Aug 22nd 2008
32
I didn't really like it. [SPOILERS contained within]
Aug 25th 2008
34
No one's gonna help me out? Even from those who LOVED this movie?
Aug 26th 2008
35
why I'm not helping
Aug 26th 2008
36
     
           one of the biggest reasons I was so enthralled
Aug 26th 2008
39
I didn't love it through and through, but I'll chime in
Aug 26th 2008
38
      cool, thanks
Aug 28th 2008
40
In retrospect: Yes, you should see this movie. BUT, be prepared.
Aug 28th 2008
41
Sponge or colonel, do you think I'll be able to watch the first 2 discs
Feb 03rd 2010
42
It'll still have impact viewed in that manner
Feb 03rd 2010
45
      great, thanks
Feb 03rd 2010
46
      trying to "get into" the film, but it's tough
Feb 08th 2010
49
At some point this is going to have to be peeped
Feb 03rd 2010
43
At the very least, you'll say to yourself at the end:
Feb 03rd 2010
44
#1 in the queue, my dude!
Feb 03rd 2010
47
great. Really great.
Feb 04th 2010
48

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